Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
>Shitposting with Megumin YOU FUCKING COMMIES HAVE GONE TOO FAR
Samuel Moore
>communists >steal money >now steal anime girls
Ayden Evans
Communism as an idea sounds all fine and dandy at first but it soon becomes an easily exploitable because surprise surprise the world is not full of nice and kind people.
Read Animal Farm - George Orwell
Camden Watson
Every single exemple for humanity's selfish nature ever used against me in discussions regarded somewhat recent western society. Taking our behaviour after years of slavery and/or capitalism and using it to paint a picture of the whole human species is just wrong. For an instance, most if not all small tribes untouched by this modes of production were communal, with concentration of power and wealth arising as they grew and became chiefdoms. However, there still is a huge fallacy even in saying organized society always results in the formation of classes and bad distribution of wealth.
Jaxson Rivera
Actually, if you read the book without any of the baggage associated, it's a book about what happens when a revolution capitulates to capitalism. Literally the horrible thing that happens in the end is the farm returns to capitalism.
It's also very anti-Stalin, but that's really neither here nor there. Orwell and Stalin understandably did not get along (he was associated with a Trot group in Spain)
Ryder Barnes
Why is everything that happened under communist regimes the result of communism, but it's outrageous to apply the same logic to capitalism?
No retard, its what eventually happens when you make everything Government, and parts of that Government then decide its more equal than the rest. There is literally nothing in Animal farm that wasn't literally observed in Communism. Your but muh capitalism not with standing.
Because capitalism and government are not the same thing, unlike in Communism where they are. Its why you think there are so many forms of capitalism, when really it is different forms of government.
>yfw the person who made this image actually supports those things like every fag socialist today you literally cannot avoid that intersectionality strain that indelibly interweaved itself in to corpses of the labour movements of the west, your grassroots is all poz'd up with AIDS faggots, trannies and virulent pan nigger nationalists, deal with it gommie
The state–the police, army, courts, bureaucracy and similar institutions–is set up and controlled by this capitalist class. These big businessmen–the bourgeoisie, or monopoly capitalists–consistently use the police, army, national guard, courts and bureaucracies to break workers’ strikes and generally to put down the rebellions of the poor who own little or no means of production. The police, army and national guard are never called out against the class of bankers and corporation executives.
Carson Nelson
n short, this state is a bourgeois dictatorship. This does not mean there is a dictatorship in this country of one or several men. It does mean there is a class dictatorship, where a tiny handful of profit-makers rules society and uses the state as their machine to suppress the working people.
Most people do not think of our country as a dictatorship because the relationship of different classes is usually concealed. The monopoly capitalists do not openly admit their rule. Instead they claim that this is a democracy where “everyone shares power and takes part in running the government.”
The ruling class goes to great lengths to cover up their dictatorship under the mask of democracy, for it is extremely difficult for a minority of exploiters to rule by force alone. Only at the time of full-blown crisis, when it can stay in power in no other way, does the monopoly capitalist class rule by open, terroristic dictatorship, or fascism.
John Miller
I'm just waiting for based gommunism poster
Thomas Sanchez
You can start by not appropriating capitalist icons you Marxist fucks.
Jordan Nguyen
liberal != socialist
Brandon Anderson
>using Megumin to promote your retard ideology kys Thanks lad
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
who are you to call self described socialists non-socialists? they care just as much about their right to free bleeding vaginas as they do about labour :^) hardly matters when like I said this is your grass roots, you can be an edgy old water poser sort of commie if you want, standing in the corner in your trenchcoat and budenovka, while around you your comrades are all trannies, faggots with HIV AIDS and other myriad degenerative diseases, pissy feminists with blue hair and chafing thighs, the beta orbiters of the latter, wiggers, etc etc etc
I love communism, it killed so many white people, I have a picture of Lenin and stalin inside my Talmud. I thank them every day for doing a crusade against those dumb goyim
Ryan James
>doesn't take people at face value not sure what you mean by this unless you're talking about associating communism with physical characteristics I described + weakness and fraility, which I'd agree with
these people self describe as communists and all the colourful brands of anarchy in the rainbow, there's no taking anyone at face value here you brainlet
>who are you to call self described socialists non-socialists? If they don't believe class struggle, then they aren't socialist. THey are champagne, Starbucks drinking, "socialists". Calling yourself something does not mean you are.
On da Obresssion of da worging glass :DDDDDDD Now dat I have said some dings, let me dell you about da system I don’t understand :DDD We can ask this: “how can brofit exist when the benis is the greator of balue?XDDD. Indeed, what has the gapitalisd done to create benis? Nothding. Begause Garl Marx said so XDDDD. The Gapitalisd doesn’t understand benis, therefor ids time to starve :DDDDD
Gomrades, rest assured, it is only a matter of time before the obbressed wake up from there obbression :DDD. Dis is glass gonsciousness. Da knowledge that the obbressed is bedder serbed siding with odhers in his glass :DDDDD. In da west we call dese working glass. Glass gonsciousness will allow us to starve in beace. Realizing the slavery dey have been libing under they shall rise ub, seize the means of benis to create a future of the worgers, by the wogers, and for da benis :DDD Free from food!
I'm talking about believing everything someone says about themselves when their actions are to the contrary. Kind of like how fascists like Spencer say they're not fascists but functionally are no different from them. It fools the Dave Rubins and Shapiros of the world, not socialists.
On The Benis Theory of Balue All blue that is created is the product of beans, from bagina and :DD to :DDDD and XDDD, all is an expression of the balue creating bower of beans. By itself, gotton is wothleds, yet through the balue of creating bower of benis, a goat is greater, and that goat holds balue purely bue du da dransformative balue of beans. Da more indilligent among you may notice that diamonds were breviously mentiond and may ask yourselves: ‘how gan this be a broduct of benis? A diamond is baluable in of itself!’. Ingorrect, a diamond is in the ground and is not of use to no one. Yet it is though benis that the diamond is removed from the ground and becomes baluable :DDDDD Dus we can deduce that all balue is the product of benis XD
Benis Theory of Balue (BTB):
Non arguments:D
>banything that gallanges my worldview XD
Marx clarified (unlike dat dude I neber undersdood) that only gocially nessidary benis (benis used to broduce a gommodity with use balue) creates balue. Dis is also the gase if you sbend 1000 years making a bed XD.
>Nature can greate balue as well. If an abble falls from a tree den balue is greated without benis :DDD
Marx said something about dis :DD defeore gommunism
>is benis determies brice why is goca goal cheaper than boddled wader?
Benis doesn’t dedermine brice. It betermins balue (not da same thing) and goorlates with equilibrium brice :DDDDDDD
It I do something worthwhile width my life den I wouldn’t have dime to read Garl Marx and bost guck born :DDDD Brigs are diamonds begause I said so.
70% private industry that completely relied on oil.
Matthew Clark
From my past experience with Communists, they usually suffer from an ordeal of genetic health problems coupled with a mental state that promotes self destructive behaviors.
but they do believe in class struggle and all that ancillary shite, they just believe in "gender struggle", the struggle against "racial privilege", LGBTQP struggle, etc.
you say their actions are to the contrary but how does having fag socialists as the bulk of your comrades have any material effect on your so called struggle while you ostensibly view class as the sole object they view what I've listed above as just as fundamental
>Kind of like how fascists like Spencer say they're not fascists I don't think those people do deny anything, many of them are self described fascists and third positionists, the Ben Sharpio types just want their equal rights to demonstrate and such as are given to fag socialists and other sorts mostly, pretty simple, they're not being fooled or hoodwinked by sneaky nazis.
>but they do believe in class struggle Nope, they believe in "racial struggle" and "women liberation" and fag rights. Not the same thing. Most of them have more disdain for a working class white then a capitalist nigger/chink/women
Jonathan Bailey
Based
Kevin Ramirez
no, he grew out of it you retard
William Ross
>commies using lies to spread their propaganda what else is new?
Carson Garcia
Nope, supporting the sane degenerate shit quacking the same buzzword mumbo jumbo, same taqqiya and same endgoal, same kind of uneducated retarded kids. Same thing. All of them have more disdain for the working white people wanting to be left alone by these retarded faggots that build up the nations they want to destroy, than some raping niggers and corrupt Jews openly admitting to support genocide of whites.
Cooper Lee
Because socialism is about equality and freedom? You can be socialist and homophobic, but they're few and far between because it goes against the principle of equality and owning your body. Its also just fucking retarded and there's no reason to be homophobic other than "muh tradition", which socialist don't give a fuck about.
Jayden Green
Why the fuck did you subject me to that filth? What an ugly dirty ape. You know that liquid that forms at the bottom of a bin bag? He looks like he smells like that.
Julian Wright
Then how come he isn't laser removing it? I would be eternally ashamed to have that kind of embarrassing thing etched on my body.
Ethan Ward
why are you asking me ask him
Jack Jackson
>socialism is about equality and freedom socialism is about workers coming in to their own and the ownership of the product of ones labour you mong
you're precisely the reason fag socialism is what it is and thankfully the reason your movement will stay enervated and be wiped away by its natural superior
>there's no reason to be homophobic other than "muh tradition" not true at all, being a bum boy is and always has been historically anti-masculine, opposing faggotry in society isn't a matter of upholding a tradition of opposing faggotry by any means, neither is it a position of religion among people who do so as I'm sure you probably imagine
QUIT USING MY WAIFU TO SPREAD YOUR CANCEROUS IDEOLOGY!!!
Matthew White
Yes, and why does socialism want workers want the means of production? For fun? For a laugh? Figure it out.
>you're precisely the reason fag socialism is what it is and thankfully the reason your movement will stay enervated and be wiped away by its natural superior..not true at all, being a bum boy is and always has been historically anti-masculine, opposing faggotry in society isn't a matter of upholding a tradition of opposing faggotry by any means, neither is it a position of religion among people who do so as I'm sure you probably imagine Just right wing schizo bollocks, nothing I can respond to here.
Connor Harris
>You know that liquid that forms at the bottom of a bin bag? He looks like he smells like that. you would know about that given that you eat from the trash bags, faggot sage
Ryan Lee
You wouldn't know because you're a lazy shit who doesn't take his bin bags out and just leaves them festering.
Jonathan Gonzalez
socialism doesn't want anything, socialism is the system the workers will build wherein they own the means of production and enjoy the fruits of their labour it's not because of whatever you mean by equality and freedom, the workers aren't meant to be equal to the bourgeoisie
>nothing I can respond to here hey you're the one who wanted to defend your faggot shit here, if you can't even defend your defense why would you bother trying to make this pathetic sally you dumb cunt
Is this a troll? Wouldn't the same picture apply under Communism, except the CEO would be replaced by someone working for the government?
If You want the workers to retain a larger amount of the value they produce, then you have to limit immigration. Funny thing is that mass immigration is one of the central ideas of Communism.
Mason Lee
don't be like that comrade, capitalism totally doesn't work and everything will be better when the goys, i mean guys, give everything to the state bosses instead of the capitol bosses.
Its funny because Das Kapital is considered the best description and analysis of capitalism even by fucking capitalists. You can't understand Capitalism without Das Kapital.
