I truly think that Jow Forums's anti-semitism is just as pathetic, if not more so...

I truly think that Jow Forums's anti-semitism is just as pathetic, if not more so, than non-white resentment towards white people.

It's simply a fact that Jewish people work harder, are comparatively more wealthy and successful, and that there are both genetic and environmental reasons for their success. It's cringey as fuck to see NAZI larpers on this board mock black people for being uncivilized and blaming whites for their failures, but then go on to seethe with resentment towards a tiny minority group simply because they use their intelligence to earn a good life for themselves.

That's not to mention people like Hans Zimmer, Kafka, Bob Dylan, Paul Simon, JD Salinger, Charlie Kaufmann, Philip Van Doren Stern and all other Jewish people who have helped in a big way to make American and Western culture what it is.

Honestly, you should really question why you are so oblivious to the double-standard here. Is it jealousy? Frustration at your own failures?

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>simply a fact

oh okay.

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You can hate for any reason senpai. You seem to hate some of us because of gow we feel, and not because of our actions

But it is. Looks at the average income of Jewish people in most Western nations and you'll find they are at the top of the pile. That's not by coincidence, or because of some kind of global conspiracy.

If you understood Jewish history, you'd understand that being literate and well-educated has been important to Jewish families for centuries. The fact this pays off, monetarily speaking, is no surprise. If you want to work as a farmer and not earn very much, or work as a labourer and earn a basic wage, then fine. But don't hate Jewish people because they turn their attention to academia and finance etc.

nobody hates jews they hate being jewed stop jewing the impetus is on you, detesting jewish perfidy is no more "anti-semitism" than shooting a rapist is "anti-penisism"

now...

KYS faggot jew nigger.
ahem.
kikefag.

It's not Jewish success that antisemities resent it's jewish involvement in Leftism, especially stuff like immigration.

Indian-Americans(pajeets) are richer than jews on average but nobody hates them because they dont try to subvert the country they live in(well apart from passively voting democrat).

First of all, Jewish involvement in "leftism" is a gross exaggeration of the state of affairs.

British Jews, for example, typically vote Conservative for example. And even if Jewish Americans vote for the Democrats as a rule, this contradicts your MO, which is that Jews are simply intent on hoarding large amounts of wealth at the expense of the white majority. If that were the case, they would vote Republican (the historically pro-Israel party) and pay even less taxes and so on.

you dont know what my MO is. Jews are heavily involved in movements like Communism, Boasian anthropology, Keynesian economics, anti-racism, multiculturalism, open borders, Neo-conservatism, etc.

Voting conservative in the modern West is not being opposed to Leftism. Conservatives literally never win and just adopt Leftist views 10 years later.

Bingo. Behind every movement like communism or open boarders or every other degenerate thing brought to the west is a fucking jew. Every dam time.
>inb4 it's just a coincidence goy

>calling that conservative

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Again, you are cherry-picking to fuel your own narrative, and thus defend your sense of being a victim.

Is Steve Mnuchin a degenerate-supporting left-winger? What about Gary Cohn? Jared Kushner?

They are all right-wing Jews who are helping or have helped Trump's agenda. For every left-leaning Jewish academic you guys hate, there are one or two right-wing financiers working on Wall Street. It's only because of the remarkable nature of Jewish intelligence which makes these people more prominent and thus more susceptible to lynch mobs from Jow Forums and other places.

>They are all right-wing Jews who are helping or have helped Trump's agenda.
You mean Israel's agenda.

The only modern country that has ever gotten rid of its insidious banking system, closed its borders and maintained national homogeneity is the country that made Jews wear badges in public.

Your feeble attempts at psychoanalyzing our motives have no basis in any sort of evidence. Nothing but cheap rhetorical flair.

Jews are not a monolithic group and as such support various strategies, whatever they think is best for them and their people. Sometimes this is supporting Trump, sometimes it's supporting open borders. What doesn't change is that their motivations are always to better the lot of the Jewish people, even if this conflicts with the good of the majority ethnicity of the country. They practice open nepotism in hiring meaning that any industry that has a handful of Jews in management positions will rapidly fill up with them. Their average IQ is not high enough to explain their overrepresentation.

The Jew, like all things, just acts according to it's nature. The blame falls directly on our shoulders as whites for falling for their tricks. This is an attitude we should all adopt because when you accept responsibility for something you gain the power to change it. As a whole, we used to understand the Jew and his nature, it's something that has been lost but must be restored. We will rise to fire up the ovens once more. Niggers, on the other hand, have never in all of history accepted responsibility for anything and they never will.

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I used to like jews. Then I realized that Jews are pushing migration into our countries to destroy us. Their betraylnwill never be forgiven. I don’t care how much money they make, I hate their two-faced back-stabbing nature.

Well then how can Jewish people win, with your paranoid Catch 22 mentality?

An absolutely poor misreading of history. Ethnic homogeneity was common in Europe at the time of the Nazi rise to power. In fact, your so-called brotherhood alliance of white Western men is something Hitler would have abhorred. Look at his life while living in Munich and Vienna and you will see that he hated Czechs, Poles etc for living in Austria-Germany and considered them inferior.

>Jews are not a monolithic group
>yet their motives are all the same

Wow, nice logic there. You debunked yourself in the space of a single sentence.

Nice trollin' Rabbi. I almost read the whole thing! Faggot.

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>Conservative

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Also 911. I'd be pretty angry about that too.

I see you didn't respond to my points about nepotism or their IQ.

If you are truly incapable of understanding the idea of different strategies aiming at the same goal, perhaps it would be best for you to find a different activity to spend your time on than trying to understand politics.

I did not once mention a 'brotherhood of whites'. You put words in my mouth because you can't argue with what I actually say.

Another true believer. Are you a teenager, by any chance?

It may be true that Jews are acting according to their nature, or in others words their genetic predisposition. And if that predisposition encourages them to become academically successful, entrepreneurial, inventive and so forth then more power to them. You will never see an opioid epidemic among the Jewish population, or see Jews complaining about some low-skill, minimum-wage factory being shut down, and why? Because they are smart enough not to invest their time into such things.

Here's the question that kills the Jew:

America first or Israel first?
>If not american:
[Your country] first or israel first?

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>and that there are both genetic and environmental reasons for their success
No, it's nepotism, mostly.
But I agree that obsessive hatred of Jews is a symptom of some mental disorder. Obsessive hatred of anyone for that matter.

obviously a jew would think that

I'll gladly respond to both:

1. Ashkenazi IQ is statistically higher on average than the IQ of White Americans. This is an accepted fact.

2. Nepotism exists in any industry, and is an important aspect of any social group wishing to succeed. Do you think nepotism doesn't exist in West Virginia, Idaho etc? Of course it does, but you're not complaining because nobody wants to work the kind of job that someone is getting through family connections. Again, if they were hiring people who underperformed but kept them on because they were Jewish, the company would tank. But they don't.

I was referring to the brotherhood of white men often talked about on Jow Forums, e.g the "No More Brother Wars" cringeposting.

But it isn't. If Jews were hiring other Jews because they were Jewish, not because they were intelligent and capable, then the companies would suffer as a result. But they don't, and that's because A) nepotism is negligible, and B) Jews have simply proven themselves to be hard-working, capable individuals who succeed in high-status, desirable jobs.

>then the companies would suffer as a result
Life isn't as simple as that.

HAHAHAHAH LOWER IQ THAN SLAVS HAAHAHAHAAHHAA SICK MEME DUDE AMERICA IS 44% SHITSKIN AND STILL HAS A HIGHER IQ HAHAHAHAH

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Ashkenazi IQ is not high enough to explain their overrepresentation. Episcopalians have a similar IQ and population size.

Jews are much more nepotistic than other groups, as evidenced by the fact they have survived for 3000 fucking years in other people's countries. There are even studies showing Jewish bias in university acceptance. Jews constantly talk about the Jewish people, form little association for promoting Jewish causes, etc. This isnt a secret.

All of your arguments center around either insulting your opponents(you're jealous, you're dumb) or purposely not getting the point. I can only assume you don't base your beliefs on evidence but rather you understand subconsciously that being an anitsemite is extremely low status in our society, so you are a priori philosemitic so as not to lose social status, and you ferret around for rationalizations and explanations for Jewish overrepresentation and negative behavior.

b-b-b-but those kikes dont count

East to explain:

1. Ashekenazi Jews generally settled in Europe

2. Many lower-IQ arabs live in Israel (~25% pop)

ITT: People justify themselves - ridiculously - to a bitter Jew who wants to join in the fun but can't.
'Reeee let me into your internet country club I want to meme too!', cry more Itzig.
Maybe shuck and jive for us a bit and we'll let you fag for us in the ethnostate.

so the only reason jews have any intelligence is because they stole white genes. gotcha

Sneed.

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Yawn this again?
-Success and being big brained alone don't account for massive overrepresenation relative to their small population size.
-Jews can have different views like all people do, but they all serve collective jew interests
-Leftist jews will undermine whites in order to further their power in a brown underclass or to weaken any inevitable white pushback that usually comes in cycles
-Right wing jews will lobby for wars for Israel and control right wing thought to stay kosher and not go too out of hand. Soon as you mention jews they get nervous, as they naturally should be
-Rugged individualism only goes so far, things like media, hollywood, education, etc. do influence larger amounts of people than you which in turn changes your environment
>Bob Dylan
>Hans Zimmer
>influential to American culture
Sage and GTFO reddit scum

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Entirely not what I said. In fact, the reason Jews have succeed in Europe is precisely because they did not interbreed with white people (and white people did not breed with them) for centuries. Jewish tradition encouraged Jewish families to educate their children to a high standard and to pursue academic or intelligence-focused work, whereas white people were generally content with farming, woodwork, and other kinds of manual labour. In the long-run, we see who has benefited from these respective decisions, with manual work being exported to places where uneducated people can do the same work for less money etc.

When the royal society was into eugenics the most intelligent people they found were all white admixtures

>stole

We gave them over willingly. Khazar milkers swooced white nigger peasants into breeding with genestealers, noblesmen swerved with tact.

GOOD JOB FURTHER PROVING MY POINT
>AMERICA 44% SHITKIN
>ISRAEL 25% SHITKIN
>AMERICA STILL HAS HIGHER IQ

GET FUCKED YOU KIKES HAVE LOWER IQ'S THAN SLAVS HAHAHAHAHA

so they just got white skin and blue eyes magically?

The Brit itt straight up refuses to engage with the point that their IQ doesnt explain their overrepresentation and that they have a millenia old tradition of being insular and tribal

Jeremy Corbyn's son works for the Labour party in a high-earning role. The Bush family were very nepotistic, as are the Clintons, and as were the Kennedys. Yet you only take offence when it is Jewish people who act in this entirely understandable if regrettable manner. What about Melanie Phillips, the British journalist most hostile to the notion of mass immigration into the UK? She is anything but pro-Israel. The examples of such people are numerous.

Jews have always had olive or white skin, and have been indistinguishable from Whites for centuries in Europe, albeit with the exception of a prominent nose in many cases. Are you claiming most Jews have blue eyes? Because this is a rarity in the community.

i truly think that OP labelling all Jow Forums users as identitarians is as pathetic as labelling all islamists as terrorists, all jews as sneaky and all wypipo as racist

>kikes overrepresented when accounted for merit
>when asked about affirmative action they agree with it more if the question suggests it harms white people
>115iq is an estimate and doesnt have any legitimate study behind it
>study with sample size of over 1000 of verbal iq in ashkenazi jews is around 103
>germans had iq of like 107 in 80's

what did OP mean by this?

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so jews rose to power when they started mixing with people of a northern european phenotype. interesting

Not at all. Very few Jews have held positions of absolute power in the West (prime ministers, presidents etc). However, Jews have always been over-represented among the most salaries workers of European countries precisely because of their work ethic and their lack of ties to traditional work such as farming, woodwork, etc which tended to restrain "white" europeans into family-orientated work structures (e.g. "three generations of miners"). I won't mention the issue of loans and usury, as its a commonly understood historical fact. The fact is that Europe has greatly benefitted from the influence of Jewish people for centuries, in science, medicine, literature, art, and every other field where one may conceivable influence the wider good.

>I won't mention the issue of loans and usury, as its a commonly understood historical fact.

'Commonly understood historical fact'. So you pontificate on the overrepresentation of Jews being attributable to their work ethic, whilst maintaining that Europeans were bound to trades and agriculture as a consequence of their situation in feudal society.
Totally understandable that you would want to brush over usury, since your intention is to magnify marginal factors while ignoring the single most important one.

>Jewish people work harder, are comparatively more wealthy and successful
Filthy protestant. You're not better.

>They are all right-wing Jews
questionable

Do they defend marriage? Sexual restraint and morality? Denounce homosexuals? Support gun rights? No, they're just (((economic liberals))), which the Democrats are compared to the rest of the world. The UK Conservative party is a terrible example, the mainstream of that party is just as obsessed with egalitarian social engineering as Labour.

It's simply a fact that Jews avoided farm labour and other kinds of craftwork which bound individuals to a certain region, and bound family members to family guilds etc. Since these very same people (the salt of the earth, apparently) consistently took out their frustrations and anger on Jewish people, Jewish people did what they knew best, which was to work in urban centres alongside more open-minded members of their national community. The Christian prohibition on certain financial strategies meant Jews quite naturally provided services to others that nobody else was willing to provide. And when these funds were mismanaged by the "salt of the earth", who found themselves in debt etc, all it took was one demagogue to rise to power and offer the Jews as a sacrificial goat for their own sinister ambitions. But the fact is white Europeans needed Jews, and often depended on their specializes services not to mention their inventions and scientific discoveries, and thus the cycle continues. And thus the cycle continues today with depressed, economically unsuccesful young men on Jow Forums yearning for a demagogue who will make them feel better about their low-status position in society by punishing the Jews so that, as usual, the blame can be said to lie elsewhere. It's exactly what black Africans are doing in South Africa.

I tend to agree but here's where I start to lead you onto some dangerous ground:

What do you think of the state of the financial system today darling?

>and thus the cycle continues

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>And when these funds were mismanaged by the "salt of the earth", who found themselves in debt etc, all it took was one demagogue to rise to power and offer the Jews as a sacrificial goat for their own sinister ambitions
Every country was hit by the depression you dishonest kike lover. Your attack on farmers is a laughable reversal of the truth. It wasn't mismanaged by the 'salt of the earth' whoever that is, it was mismanaged by capital interests and Jewish financiers. Farmers and mechanics who had family ties didn't have the wealth to influence the market enough to crash it, but you know that.

>Jews are so influential because of their wonderful unique Jewiness
>"anti semites" are inventing Jewish influence

choose one faggot

The arrogance and contempt for common people is just baffling, not to mention the extremely tenuous connection with the idea of truth. I thought OP was just some leftist at first but I am starting to think he is a frugal fellow himself.

>all other Jewish people who have helped in a big way to make American and Western culture what it is.
jesus

>insular and tribal

its more than that - the very essence of ethnic jewish exclusivity & rabbinical beliefs about their relationship to god were actively aggresively hostile to the goyim & allowed avery form of exploitation & contempt towards them

they might be intelligent, but they don't do actual work.
sage for question that's been asked 6 gorllion times

>Since these very same people (the salt of the earth, apparently) consistently took out their frustrations and anger on Jewish people

For lending them money at a high rate of interest. They were right to be angry, considering what was at stake for them.
Neither you nor I are agriculturalists, and if we were, we'd be working with modern tools designed to mitigate the notorious unreliability of the weather, on which the success or failure of a crop is dependent. I don't expect a Jew to appreciate how that might land a person in a situation they cannot escape.
All the moralising chatter aside, a small segment of European society, namely the aristocracy, needed Jews. The rest of us had no use nor need for you, and the 'services' you provided were akin to the 'services' a smack dealer provides to the chronically depressed. This was why you were hated, you earned every pogrom and only the best of your academics have the wherewithal and honesty to admit that the Jews willingly offered themselves as 'scapegoats' to feather their shitty little nests. The payoff was too tempting.
The Jews burned the house in which records of all debts were maintained in Jerusalem just as soon as they got the chance, Josephus says as much, so you were all well aware of usury's immorality in practice.
Jews were myopic (imagine that) enough to rub their hands and laugh out of the sides of their mouths as they hustled their way into the grave, anything to screw over the goyim - even suicide!

>scientific discoveries

In the Middle Ages? jej! I didn't know that Buridan, Psellos and Scotus were Jews. You contributed nothing except usury and specious mysticism until well into modernity.

Goy , stop trying to defy us

You mutilate the genitals of your babies and then suck blood out of babydicks. Marx, Stallin, Soros, the Rotshild family are all jews. Also the lies about the holocaust. You do not need to protect the truth by law, since the evidence does not point against it. 200 to 300 thousand died in labour camps, jews say its 6 million.
Now what would you believe in? An unorganized German or a lying jew?

>If you understood Jewish history

You don't know who you are talking to.

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No one replies?

Marxism

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>not a single mention of nepotism

that's how I know you're talking out of your ass

so jews got their intellect from european dna.
Euro dna is the only difference between white and sand jews.

So it seems it's the superior euro genes shining through the mongrel mess of jew dna.

OP is a faggot. Bump denied.

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Its called counter-semitism.

Also this.

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>Ignores our super insular club
>You should be more diverse
>Oh did our banks steal from you?
>You should bail us out, so the rest of your economy doesn't collapse
>How dare you get upset at us! We are the victims!
>Evil white male is at fault!
>They should give up their power!
>Killed Christ

But I mean, at least Jews are better than 3/5ths of a person you nigger.