Jow Forums and porn

Anyone who has problems with porn or masturbating has problems with overall discipline. I'd be curious if there is any correlation between that and how often a porn user brushes their teeth

It's modern American education. This girl you posted has been learning about sex and sex toys and perversions since kindergarten. Her college professors have told her there's no such thing as morality, it's a patriarchal oppression. Porn is the result.

Double edged sword. Less shitskins to ruin it when Im scrolling thumbnails.

>believes women have agency and the capacity to make reasonable choices

That feeling is your subconscious reminding you that it'd be more meaningful with someone in your arms. You know what happens to that feeling as you get older? It goes away. So does your erection. I'm not kidding you when I say "if you're a cynic by the time your 40, you're either way too intelligent to be hanging out where it is you are living, or you seriously need to pick up some healthy hobbies to distract you from just how fucked up things really are".

Good luck, kid.

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source on that pic please

>tfw fapped to trannie gangbangs again

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> The more I contemplate how it must feel being a small petite 18 year old girl getting ravaged by some strangers dick, the more enraged I feel.
You know they like it.

That's because no one else is attracted to your women buddy.

Yeah but you can find sluts like these everywhere these days.
But somehow you know she is doing porn.

I dont believe it but this is how this current society is set up and its beyond me to change that shit.

>You know that feeling of guilt you get after you fap?

Nope.

I always turn the porn off when i cum, litterally right in the middle of cumming i close the window. Maybe its because of shame? I cant stand to look at the whore/whores during my nut. When fucking real women its the complete opposite. Then again i might just be fucked in the head.

>It's modern American education.
Not just American education; European and Canadian too :(

most girls, especially in the west are not capable of making decisions for themselves. they are coerced into acting in this way.
it's in her eyes.
it's not fapping it's the issue. it's young women degrading themselves which is the problem.
the girl i posted is russian, or latvian.
thanks for feelz
it's been posted in the thread.

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try watching softcore/porn without dicks
you'll feel better and feel more prepared for noporn

>Why is the age for porn so fucking low, some of the girls can look barely 16
That’s a bad thing? That’s prime breeding age !

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I only used to get that guilty feeling if I fapped on christmas, and even then only a few times.
Porn is destructive and commercial porn is heavily jewish.
Porn is one of the only things the Jew gives away *freely*. Chew on that for awhile.
The only acceptable porn, if there is to be porn at all (and there's no putting that genie back in the bottle) is amateur porn IMNSHOTYVMHANDIYKWIMAITYD.

>You know that feeling of guilt you get after you fap?

Never in my entire life. Is this a real thing?

Tet

>You know that feeling of guilt you get after you fap?
>I don't know, a lot less people get this feeling than I thought would.
I used to when I was a teen but it faded.
>I don't know, but the more of think about it, the more I hate pornography. Beautiful young girls barely out of highschool with possible bright futures ahead of them get horrifyingly violated and fucked, for the entire world to see. It's disgusting.
White knight detected. Women are scum. I don't watch much porn now, but when I do it's homemade amateur anyways. Not that kike shit.

that is because you are watching a girl getting fucked by someone else. you are pretty much getting cucked every second when you watch that garbage and it does affect your self confidence as well because of that.
personally i could never enjoy or watch porn, always turned me off and felt disgusted by it for that reason - hentai was fine tho, as it is not real.
and before some of you guys try the "muh virgin chinese cartoons meme" i never had problems with women in real life, not at all.
take your time to think about this for yourself and while we are at it, testosterone is dropping massively in the west and porn is at an all time high, i wonder how this correlates, paired with other social engineering ofc.

Damn I'm glad I got out of that shit

Just remember fellas, your cum is precious as fuck. Your body always need to be able to reproduce at impregnate women, thus if you cum several times a day, your body has to drain and spent all its energy for your ballsack to fill up. Is it really worth it?
Fapping is overrated. Think of your biggest role model throughout history. Was he the kind of person that would sit down in a corner hunchbacked and fap, afterwards feel ashamed about it? Fuck no.

Stop fapping. And if you can't do that, at least stop watching porn. Porn is literally a jew weapon. Use your imagination then.

that pic saved me from some dark times a while back. not really the same effect now and things are pretty fuckin dark. im about 8 hours from fucking everything up just a little bit more than i already have and the existential weight of it is driving my subconscious off the fucking wall. moods swings for 48 hours straight and not a shred of willpower or motivation to try and stop my current trajectory. so, oldfag, what do?

My advice: Wait until you're married and have kids, then fap away. It doesn't matter anymore at that point and it will only improve your quality of life. The sad reality is women use sex as a means to an end. Once their goals are accomplished, sex simply becomes an occasional reward for her husband. When you're at that point, you lose nothing from fapping to porn. You're at the end game.

You're right user and I feel the same feel. It's right that you feel this way about porn too. It is wrong and immoral, but that is the world we live in.
We live in a postmodern era, where unlimited personal liberty and the abolishing of narratives reign supreme.
It's no surprise really. Porn is the biggest "fuck you" to traditional sensibilities and modesty, and pushes the idea of unrestrained spontaneous freedom to its limits.
DOTR can't come quickly enough.

No. I don't. Quit being such a moralfag.

Super shitty advice, don't strive for this.

>Porn is literally a jew weapon.
This. Porn reduces your motivation, drains you out of the will to take action.

>women are scum
spotted a kike/incel/mgtow-fag
women have undoubtedly gotten worse over the years. but this is a result of men giving them too much and kike brainwashing.
woman has been the most faithful companion to man of all time. if you can't find/make an unpozzed woman that's your own fault.
>moralfag
it's what separates us from the niggers.

How old is that girl?

Our brains doesn't understand it's just a computer screen. It think we have this great pick of potential mates. Ever notice how you don't just find one video and fap? No, you jump from thumbnail to thumbnail, opening new tab after new tab. It's not the porn we're addicted to - it's the incredible selection. And it's just overwhelming for our primal brains. We're literally frying our dopamine receptors - drugs are literally like drugs, thus why its so hard to quit for some people, even though they know its bad for them.
If your brain only knows erection from browsing porn, no fucking wonder you can't get it up when you finally get a lady to suck your dick.

Not an argument, kiddo. if you're already married for life and have already passed on your genes, there's zero downside of fapping. You're no longer on the market and you've already accomplished your life goal that fapping can get in the way of. You've already beat the game.

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old enough to pose for porn

>your body has to drain and spent all its energy for your ballsack to fill up

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Probably older than you mister Nazi

THIS! I was on the porn pill for a long while and it has nearly ruined me. Got a girl now and I’m practically a disgrace in bed.
Spending money on prostitution is better than all the free porn in the world. Human to human sex makes you stronger; solo sex makes you weak

sadness

They do. Real life girls are not as visually stimulation as porn, but you'll get much more erect about them. You know that what you're getting isn't real, is no prospect of breeding, you just cheat a part of your brain.

The guilt is a lot stronger after I fap to gay stuff. It's like I become significantly straighter whenever I orgasm.

I see your point I just simply disagree with the premise. You're putting fapping up on some pedestal like a kid who's done his homework and finally gets to play video games.

>i got my kids
>now i can finally watch my pronz!

Sounds pretty pathetic to me, senior.

Oh yeah spaghettibro, simple biology.

>woman has been the most faithful companion to man of all time.
This is utter bullshit that only a gynocentrist would spew. Throughout recorded human history women have been anything but loyal companions.

according to freeones she was born August 6, 1987.
That photoset is around 10 years old so she was likely 18-20 when they were taken.
i honestly think she's beautiful user. i want to wife her and nurture her to happiness.
what a shame.

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because the thread is about porn you retard

i only feel sad afterwards because i know i just wasted some of my valuable test and that i will feel a bit weaker in the gym the next day because of it
i dont give a flying fuck about these whores desu

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Young men are horny, and have been for millenia. It is hard-wired into us to breed when we are most fit and virile. But whereas in previous generations our expectations were constrained by our immediate surroundings, i.e. a local community, young men tended to marry young, get their rutting out of their system and become fathers by the age of 30 and work to provide for their families at that point. The women in their lives were either family members, or the daughters of individuals they knew second-hand (e.g. schoolfriends, or friends of friends etc). There was therefore an implicit duty to act cordially towards these women, because abusing them or demanding that they behave in decadent ways for your own sexual gratification would lead to social ostrichsizednation. But today with the dissolution of local communities and the "pop-up" culture of tacitly accepted sex apps (Tinder, Bumble, etc) a young man has no real way to develop the gentlemanly aspect of his character, through slow-moving romance and exchanged of formal expressions of desire (love letters, a ring worn on a chain, and so forth). What we get therefore is pornography as a mediator between men and women, meaning women learn that their primary aim is to attract men *sexually* and men's aim is to display themselves in such a way as to appear callous, dominant, rough and capable of providing orgasm for the potential date. In reality, both are often yearning for the same thing, that is an innocent romantic relationship defined by its tenderness and mutual care. But what you get instead is disappointing, rushed sex and embarrassment, with men turning to masturbation to avoid the hassle and women opting to simply play the numbers game also and hope that Mr Right will come along in the end.

Cont.

Something is very very wrong if we don't think real naked girls in front of us isn't as visually stimulating as porn on a computer screen. I don't disagree with that being true, but that just reinforces why you shouldn't watch porn. Jews really outdone themselves with this mindfucker.

IMO the treachery of women is really just men's fault because we never should have given them rights in the first place. I feel really bad for women whenever they do bad things, because they're naturally cute, like children, and they really shouldn't have all of this responsibility that feminists have shoved off on them. They literally can't handle it.

i am a slav. all the women in my family work just as hard as men tending the fields and looking after the children. their skills lay in different things evolutionary speaking. that does not mean they never fulfill their role. both my mom and my father are the most hardworking people i know.
things in the west, and especially america are very different.
this

>You know that feeling of guilt you get after you fap?
No I don't. Though heard of it few times. Perhaps people are overthinking this

>Beautiful young girls barely out of highschool with possible bright futures ahead of them get horrifyingly violated and fucked, for the entire world to see. It's disgusting.
>Does this not bother anyone?
No unless they do it involuntarily. Honestly even in that case that doesn't really bug me much but it still would if I knew.

>Why is the age for porn so fucking low, some of the girls can look barely 16.
And what now? Do you think a person cannot take decisions when they're 16 and ain't accountable and responsible for them? People used to marry that age and dare say still do it in most parts of the world except the west (and even there it's legal). So one can take life-changing steps but still cannot film themselves in fucking porne? Are you mindless?

>The more I contemplate how it must feel being a small petite 18 year old girl getting ravaged by some strangers dick, the more enraged I feel.
Why exactly? Because you're an incel and you know that you're not likely to experience sexual pleasure (unless you pay a hooker)?
Come on sex is not smth unusual it is like eating or shitting not more and not less. In fact the more you promote this sort of agenda the more you (and other men) are fucked over by insane pussy cost.

stop conflating fap and porno, retard.

> being a small petite 18 year old girl getting ravaged by some strangers dick, the more enraged I feel.

you are obviously jealous, but you don't need to be 18 or small petite in order to get ravaged by big black cock. there are no homo incels, btw.

>You know that feeling of guilt you get after you fap?

No.

I am NOFAP NOPORN, but I just had sex. Oral, vaginal and anal. Does that technically kill my NOFAP streek if I came in her ass? She seemed to really enjoy it.

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become a prostitute

>visually stimulating
I haven't watched VR porn, but I guess that doesn't come close either. A beautiful, young potential wife in front of you clothed is much more sexually exciting than porn.

I do think someone needs to look into this shit. It's becoming more advanced every year.

You sound like a nigger blaming whites for their shortcomings. You are your own worst enemy user

wow you're a retarded ruskie if i've ever seen one.
fuck no people at 16 are not capable of decision making. you know why girls were wed off at 16? because their parents made them that's why. they weren't voluntary decisions made by themselves.
>calling me an incel
man itt. i get called both a white knight and an incel, which one is it?
even feminists have this issue. is porn degrading or liberating? make up your fucking mind.
no i just think it's wrong. imagine them being your daughter. you will think a lot differently.
boris pls
not an argument. it is in fact white men (along with kike propaganda) that gave women the vote.

>you guys know that feeling of guilt after you fap

No. You have a problem.

the reason you feel guilty after fapping is because you waste your life-juice without a purpose. Each time you come in your moms underwear portion of your life energy and a child dies with it.

>>you guys know that feeling of guilt after you fap

Only on Christmas day.

>You know that feeling of guilt you get after you fap?
No

Indeed, my friend. After detoxicating my mind from porn, I really started to appreciate girls more, clothed as well. I fucking love cute girls.

VR porn is scary man. Imagine what kind of shit they can do with that. Imagine the weaboos getting next-level advanced hentai shit and blacked cucks watching a faceapp of their own wife getting drilled.
Brave new world, right?

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Of course this doesn't happen, and women simply keep dating and dating and chase the elusive mirage of the ideal man (which in previous times would be the man they help develop and encourage to perfect himself in a steady relationship) and men turn to pornography, chasing instead the "ideal" onanistic experience, or at least the continuation of the pleasurable feeling they are able to provide themselves. But as the man becomes jaded and the kind of videos which excited him as a young teenager (e.g a 5 minute 70s softcore film) no longer entertain him, his mind becomes darker and darker, shedding its childlike comprehension of right and wrong and recklessly pursuing instead ever fouler forms of pornography regardless of its effect on the actresses involved (he doesn't take the time look into such things, simply consuming the experience because his craving is so overwhelming). This in turn allows pornography to become normalized (i.e. accepted as a cultural norm) which leads women again to adjust their own dispositions and appearance for the sake of meeting the new standard of behaviour they believe they are expected to meet. Needless to say this state of affairs only brings about misery for both sexes who, instead of enjoying sex and the ever-novel ways of experiencing it, become nauseated by the whole thing and terrified to confront one another for fear that their innocent, childlike desire to be loved and to love will be deemed pathetic, insufficient and so on by their prospective partner. Consequently, each person engages in a play of masks, a collective display of irony, or in aggressive statements of self-delusion (e.g. being content with yourself, being asexual, enjoying a life of "no-strings" sex). And for women, who are and have always been the supporting act of civilization, the consequences are more disastrous than for men (who tend to be more autistically inclined and capable of entertaining themselves with solitary hobbies).

Cont.

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I sadfapped to Sarah Palin on election night 2008 to cheer myself up after Obama won; this reminds me of that.

nahh man, you still going strong on the nofap

>ostrichsizednation

>I don't know, a lot less people get this feeling than I thought would.

When people are shaming me for it I feel guilty, like GF, church leaders, other men.

If no one is actively shaming me about it I don't care.

i did no fap for 15 days
it feels great
relapsed after a night out being hangover and coming down of drugs

am doing it again

stop watching porn you faggots

>Your people are being humillated lel
You're right. It's another very important reason that we need to ban it.

>the reason you feel guilty after fapping is because you waste your life-juice without a purpose.

Thai bro here gets it. Your cum is precious, lads. You can fucking create life with it, don't think it's taxfree for the body to keep creating this stuff.

Nigger you're drinking and on drugs and you're telling others to no-fap?

Clean your fucking room.

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Introduce additional sources of frustration and anger such as a broken housing market, a flagging economy, the destruction of the family, mass immigration and so on, and what you find is a generation of young men filled with anger and eager to express themselves in some way, preferably in a way that is both personally rewarding (e.g. earning a good wage, establishing an island of calm via property ownership, etc) and also, by a certain age, socially beneficial (e.g. contributing to a collective effort to benefit the wider community, to protect traditions, and so forth). But when all of this is placed out of arm's reach, men instead collapse into apathy, often subscribing to the ideology of a brutal, selfish, merciless globalized marketplace wherein everyone else is reduced to a competitor and is judged to be either socially superior or inferior, rather than as a comrade, a brother, a sister. Even in the 1970s pornography often focused on love, or at least cherished things such as the embrace of two romantic partners who lusted for one another and who only embraced after a protracted plot allowed such a meeting. Now pornography is simply designed to kidnap your attention for a few minutes by means of extremity, quick cuts and other techniques favoured by the most cut-throat advertisers and "content creators".

Cont.

druggs are literally better than porn

being this dumb

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>fuck no people at 16 are not capable of decision making
Ok. We probably couldn't agree on this matter.

>you know why girls were wed off at 16? because their parents made them that's why. they weren't voluntary decisions made by themselves.
But now it is legal to marry at 16 isn't it? If it's not in the US I apologies. In Russia you can marry even at 14 if extreme circumstances are in place.

And porne under 18 is not legal as far as I know it is everywhere, so no matter if they look a6 or 10 they must be 18. And 18 is the age when you definitely can take decisions, the 21 years thing is in place in USA the land of stupidity.

>man itt. i get called both a white knight and an incel, which one is it?
I don't know but you sound pretty much like a usual incel who's not about to have sex at 16 or 18 or 21 and up until he dies.

>even feminists have this issue.
I'd stop listening to anyone who vouches for prostitution being illegal (since these people are just immoral and disgusting) and since most feminists are I give no flying f about them.

>is porn degrading or liberating?
of course the latter. If a woman is of age where she can legally take decisions and consent it is solely her business wtf she does with her body, whom she sleeps with and if she likes to be filmed during sex or any other act etc.

kek i saw this girl on tinder

A girl doing porn is pretty much ruined for marriage. Getting married is the easier decision.

They’re already a thot after they leave highschool probably even fucked the highly autistic kid in special education and claimed it as Community Service so she could feel good about herself.

Don’t feel bad for them probably 90% of them are race mixers and have less dignity than David Hogg’s neghole.

>You know that feeling of guilt you get after you fap?
yes

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I just had a porn (but not fap) relapse yesterday. Usually I separate 2D from 3D because my mind relates 2D to fun, cute, innocent animu girls and 3D is where I let (if inevitable) my degeneracy run amok, I mean it's not like most real girls don't take dozens of dicks and are as non innocent as it gets, getting into god knows what STD risky sexual acts. That's why I try to keep 2D and 3D separate, so the former doesn't become the center of an ever increasing sexual deviancy and remains 'pure'. But yesterday I couldn't and went full-in in a binge that lasted 6 hours. It feels im getting more degenerate without even masturbating, how could this happen if I've been into thr most boring softcore solo vanilla most of my life? Help me lads, it's my 5th week on no pmo and it's not getting easier at all.

Money makes the world go round OP, just find someone from a poor background and give her a good hard ribbing, then you'll know how it feels.

dont come crying in a few years back
i've told you
you obviously are very young 21

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If a woman is of age where she can legally take decisions and consent it is solely her business wtf she does with her body,

As a pro said to me last week: Why should O work 30 days and put up with a boss for minimum wage, if I can work for myself and earn that much in a day ?

So I said nothing and fucked her even harder...

The solution to this state of affairs can be as simple as personally foregoing pornography in much the same way one foregoes tobacco, excessive consumption of fast food, or "browsing" the internet in a way that undermines academic efforts etc. But this places a great deal of pressure on the individual, who can do little to actually fight back against the culture in which pornography is now a central player, being freely referenced in mainstream publications, joked about on Twitter, and influencing the sex lives (or lack thereof) of young people.

So what can a collective effort achieve? Personally I believe Jow Forums should be going after individuals who are known to abuse young women as a matter of routine for the sake of producing pornography. There are many such men in the pornographic industry, and there are plenty of young porn actresses who know about practises which are abusive yet don't consider themselves valid enough individuals to complain about them. As for the culture of Jow Forums and the wider Jow Forums culture, posting pornography should as a matter of routine be criticized and discouraged, by no longer allowing it to be "edgy" or "cool" to post it.

Either we ironically support the new digital Weimar culture (Webmar?) or we treat it just as it was treated by our ancestors.

>A girl doing porn is pretty much ruined for marriage
Said whom?
Maybe you're not about to marry such a girl but can you name any reason other than morality which is subjective?
>Muh STD
This can be a problem with regular women as well.
Anything else?

>And 18 is the age when you definitely can take decisions
no no no. your brain doesn't even fully finish developing until you're around 22. looking at the current state of the world, people are dumb well into their late 20s and even past.
>porn is liberating
i'm not gonna bother with an argument because i clearly wont change your mind, but no. just no lol.

there is no male i know that will marry a pornstar. no one. and back at my home country? lol.