This. So. Much

no, this does.

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I bet you wouldn't even know how to hold that, cuck

>that bow with that instrument

>successful

you mean wealthy. success isn't measured by a wasted life.

Only for a moment, you will feel like shit after effects are gone

>pffft you aquire resources and open opportunites for yourself I can never hope to achieve? What a wasted life!
Pathetic.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29119217

and here's one more study. it says if I shove my shitstained dick up your ass you'll be less of a faggot. - ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4977816/

You're right, I don't play violin - and you're also right that a double bass bow wouldn't probably work well on one.

Are you going to point out that you probably wouldn't need a comfy blanket at a tropical pool next?

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your head is in a different box to mine. I want real human interactions, permanent resting stops. You want the earth. We can never be friends.

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Dick up your gay ass father you cunt

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poop transplant cures schizophrenia, it's proven.

so I fuck a straight white girl int he ass. and then you. problem solution!!

IM SORRY, I WAKE UP TO GO TO WORK, LIFT WEIGHTS, FUCK MY GIRLFRIEND, AND REPEAT. I ALSO HAVE DAYS OFF WHERE I ENJOY MYSELF INSTEAD OF BEING A FAT LAZY FUCK.
SOON CHINA WILL INVADE YOU AMERIFATS.
>pic related the average Chinese person

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Transplanted my poop into your mouth, get well

Ha! Real human interaction? When you're a failure-to-launch sad excuse for a person who thinks even holding the most basic of responsibilites or ambition is unfathomable and alien? I see now why you can't ever be successful. You're hopelessly retarded. If you want a permanent resting stop just neck yourself. Breathing is such a hassle after all. Too much work. Detach yourself from all worldy wants.

Based NEET poster

Only in case you spend all your free time sitting in a box. Otherwise, NEET has much more time for shit that really cures depression, like exercising or spending time in a nature for example.

You could've prevented this.

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t. guy in america

Haha cuck faggot.
You play a violin with the chad-est bow possible to get deep resonance.
Bet you play with the "standard issue" bow... pfffffttt

The alternative is eternal war where all your belongings are taken away from you.

>2018
>Not being your own boss

Both being a neet and a wagecuck is slavery. As a neet you are simply trading your direct enslavement ( working for some faggot who doesn't respect you ) for an indirect one: a life with zero social proof.

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You're a slave to your clients.

>a life with zero social proof.
How's this enslavement?

My work is rather difficult mentally, fulfilling and provides me and mine with a great lifestyle.

reeeee i wanna become a neet but ive only got 6k in the bank, 10k in (((shares))) and 100k in cryptocurrency

in theory, yes NEETs have more time to exercise and spend time outdoors but in practice 100% of NEETs will spend 16+ hours in front of a computer posting on Jow Forums and other completely degenerate websites then spend another 8 hours asleep dreaming about where their life went so wrong
then they get their government """paycheck""" that spend on a single game to last for another two weeks and a bunch of frozen food from the dollar store because mommy won't buy them food anymore.
being a NEET 30 years ago was probably significantly different, most likely because it wasn't entirely possible, and because you didn't have this magical box on your desk that allowed you to "socialize" and "talk" to other "people" sitting on the other side of the globe. you were forced to read books, you were forced to go outside because there was hardly anything to do in the house.
NEETs, across the board, have absolutely no drive to better themselves and society. they will sit hunched over their keyboard, larping about lifting weights, traditional values, and family, when the only time they actually engage in any of those things is during the few moments of REM they get every night.
if you are a NEET above the age of 25, then you have wasted the most important years of your life and are literally better off to society if you kill yourself.

Let's face it, 7 billion people need to die before we will stop being treated like cattle.

So how is it done in a better system?
You make money for the government and its leaders instead?

this level of honesty is dangerous user.

At $60/hr I hardly consider my work as wageslavery. I wake up around 10am and I may work from home if I so please. During my day-to-day I acquire skills and connections that'll prove useful should I later on start my own company. The money I make, roughly $9k a month, allows me not only choose how I should use my leisure time, but also to invest for my future. Thanks to the money, I can - and do - have hobbies just for shits and giggles, and I don't have to stress the things normies and especially NEETs worry about. Shit, when I buy things, I don't even look at price tags 95% of the time. It just doesn't matter.

But yeah, I hope you enjoy that extra 7.5 hours of spare time.

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I quit my job 4 years ago. Went on welfare because why not? Free money.
Now I just make moonshine in my shed in the backyard, it's surrounded by woods so no one can see. I've been selling each jar for 40 bucks. I make 90k a year and couldn't be happier. Fuck jobs.p

I get up at 6:00, and use a bicycle to get to work though

>Bottom right panel of freelancer
>Wagecucks daughter as a MKultra fuckslave

Holy fucking shit lost it.

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>But yeah, I hope you enjoy that extra 7.5 hours* of spare time.
*out of every 24 hour day

And thank you, I will.

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Better solution: work towards a social organization where workers have the freedom of choice and the power to decide how to organise and distribute the products of their labour.

We know each other already, user. You're the non-patriotic nationalist that can afford everything a $100k/yr "wageslave" can with autismbux. kek.

>materialism
That's so low-energy I can't even bother to address it.

I have heard from almost every freelance and business owner they they work like 50-60 hours a week to make sure the business runs.Most say its worth it but retiring at 45 or 50 isnt worth all the time lost in between

You are actually a slave to your workers.One calls in? do you let your business stop? no,you come in.Orders backed up? come in.Really busy day and not enough staff? come in.Its a slavery in itself.

Being a wage slave doesent need to be bad.Really depends what you do.I sanitize floors with a Zamboni thing.Prob not what im gonna stay doing,but all I do all day is ride around on it and listen to podcasts,opie anthony and music.I dont have a boss there since he is based in a different town.

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Just fucking LOL @ wage cucks spending 40+ hours/week to make their (((employer))) rich. While (((trust fund kids))) never have to work a day in their life. And (((venture capitalists))) just attend meet and greets, invest in businesses and then collect their profits while sipping on a pina colada on a beach somewhere. And we are told that we must not tax the (((venture capitalist))) and the (((CEO))) because we must incentivize productive labour. Meanwhile the venture capitalist and CEO labours a small fraction compared to the wagecuck slaves who make all the money for them.

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>implying working hard makes you wealthy
Kek, you're the ultimate bluepilled Aussie.

>Medicine man free
>Almost entire race exterminated but small pox

To be fair that's an accurate representation of socialized health care- medicine man free, medicine man bad

>that can afford everything a $100k/yr "wageslave" can with autismbux. kek.
Nice strawman, Joukkainen. I never claimed that.

>I can't even bother to address it.
Because you can't. That's what it all boils down to - you caring about objects, while I don't.

tl;dr fuck gettin out of bed n goin to work n shit

You had me at podcasts.How much do you make to do that?

>The god tier smug neet feeling went away after 3 years
>Now just getting more suicidal by the day and have applied for trade school
I couldn't make it brehs.

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>Nice strawman, Joukkainen. I never claimed that.
But you are the non-patriotic nationalist, right? Also you did claim that you can afford anything someone making $6000/mo can, which is patently bullshit.

>That's what it all boils down to
No, not really. We both know studies show that the amount of income positively correlates with perceived quality of life up to ~$70k/yr. Poverty means increased stress and uncertainty. What happens when you get sick, or when you have kids? Not only is your quality of life diminished in everyday life, you're also limiting your options.

Of course, you will address none of these things, but reply with some tryhard smug meme bullshit because you know I'm right.

well only 12 to start,but after this year I could get as much as 14.Insurance is pretty good and no boss around is great.I take alot of breaks and can sit "filling up" my machine for about 15 min with water couple times a day.

>western civilization is a meme
>the true redpill is to become a nigger
wew lad

>slave
I don't think you understand what that means.

Be as vague as you need to be for opsec but what kind of place do you work, what are your hours, and how did you get the job? I work for less in a manual labor job to pay for school so I'm curious.

Tolkien would agree.

Ambition. You see, there are three kinds of men.
First, there's those with true ambition. They seek the highest peaks, the finest wines, the best cars. They create innovation for one thing or another, but they will never settle. Never be content. He would risk it all to achieve a higher peak.
The second breed of man has illusions of ambition. He is hired by the first man when his ambition can't be achieved alone. The second man can find comfort here, dreaming that he is of the first breed yet never willing to take the risk to reach the peak. He is comfortable.
The third man has neither illusion nor real ambition. He refuses to climb the mountain, believing that any pebbles that fall from the great height are what he has climbed. He is disgusted at the second breed for trying to climb the mountain for he sees no difference in the two of them.
So which is better? Believing you are of the first breed or knowing you are the third?

>But you are the non-patriotic nationalist, right?
Of course. How could I be a patriot with this government in place?
>Also you did claim that you can afford anything someone making $6000/mo can, which is patently bullshit.
Of course it is, which is why I haven't claimed that.

>Poverty means increased stress and uncertainty.
>What happens when you get sick
I go to the hospital?
>or when you have kids?
I get even more money from the government?
>Not only is your quality of life diminished in everyday life
That would imply that I want more than what I have, which I don't.
>you're also limiting your options.
Options to do what? Work? Why, that sounds horrible.

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trade school is good but will be a mind and body shock.You will go from comfort of home to being thrust into a field where people WILL jibe at you and give you a hard time because you are new.Once you are good at a trade though your golden.You may get stuck in a factory though and in the summer it can be horrible.You will get used to it though and make some good money.Be careful also since factory work can be the closest to slavery you can get.You will mostly work 40 hours gurenteed and alot of factories have mandatory overtime on weekends which can blow your plans all summer

This si why you will see alot of factory workers with nice cars or big trucks...buying those makes them feel like its worth it...which is person by person feeling.

because im not a babe that still suckles mummies tit. enjoy the tendies lad. they aint gon last forever

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>gib me
>dat

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But if the job is fun and fulfiling and routine is healthy how is it bad?

Good informative post, user.

i wish there was an alternative to this life

id rather just live out in the wilderness surviving off of my own strength. id gladly take the risk of dying and failing. but theres no where a person can do this is there?

What if I'm a teacher and I enjoy my job? I'm genuinely providing something directly to people, so I'm not 'making money for someone else' and I enjoy doing it, regardless of what time I have to get up in the morning. Plus I get 3 months paid vacation during the summer every single year. Sounds pretty good to me.

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First of all, yes you did claim that, the last time we talked. Remember, kids hobbies, specifically sports? I pointed out how expensive snowboarding and shit like that is, and you said there are no places to do that nearby so it doesn't matter (which makes no sense, because people do it anyway, no matter the cost).

Anyway, you're choosing to ignore significant parts of my arguments, so I'm not playing this cat and mouse game with you.

Just a normal everyday factory.They needed a cleaner and I walked in and asked info and they hired me right there.Right now hours are part time but thats my choice.I have a spinal injury and when I get it better ill head onto something better.You could prob join a janitorial company.The smaller ones suck but the bigger ones can pay real good.No one wants to be a janitor because of the looks of it and its not respected (case by case) but you can also jump into hospital cleaning and make good money on hospital insurance.

I worked one time in another state at a chemical company and actually had alot of respect and pay was 16 an hour.All I did was mop and sanitize equipment.People would apologize if they stayed too long in offices and gave me a really wide birth to work and not disturb me and apologized if they did

Anything else you need to know?

How do you NEETs get any value out of life? It's a mystery to me.

Just walk into the fucking woods, what the fuck, are you leafs really this retarded?

sure I do.You arnt a base slave but you are a slave to the money and business you want to suceed.Its not much different then a wageslave.That business fails you could be out 10s-100s of thousands of dollars or more.Now in debt.It can be nerve wracking.

im not interested in facing legal reprecussions tho

>id rather just live out in the wilderness surviving off of my own strength. id gladly take the risk of dying and failing
>im not interested in facing legal reprecussions tho
What the fuck

Your definition is so far off I'm surprised you haven't spontaneously stopped breathing.
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery

goto bed early, get up early, arrive to work early. Prep your meals in advance in bulk, saves energy, time and money.

Trust me on this, it will make your life sooo much better.

they dont.To be fair I live with my mother,but I also use my money to keep the house up,cover her car repairs,food etc etc.Now that being said ive seen one of my friends that WAS working take off work from depression and was living off his grandmas money.She had tons and didnt care that he didnt do shit.He played games and slept all day...this lasted for about a month before he said the depression was worse and wanted to go back to work.

yes it does.

are you retarded to the point that non of this convo is based on real slavery? a wagecuck is not a slave and in that we make the argument for working vs nonworking.Thats how these threads go.You lose.Goodday sir.

>I make up my own words
>you lose
Yeah, you're clearly a grown up.

>First of all, yes you did claim that, the last time we talked. Remember, kids hobbies, specifically sports?
No, I did not claim that I could "afford anything someone making 6000$/mo can" - what I said was, and that is the truth, that I can afford skiing (that was the example you were using) and other stuff akin to skiing because it's not as expensive as you make it out to be and thus there's no need for me to make 6000$/mo. I remember even linking you some examples of how cheap these things actually are, proving how moot your "argument" was.

>I pointed out how expensive snowboarding and shit like that is
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>EUR 259,00 - EUR 279,00
Oh no, so expensive.
>and you said there are no places to do that nearby so it doesn't matter
No, what I said is that I live on a mountain and that there's plenty of places nearby where it doesn't cost shit. The communal ski lift here costs €10.50 (for adults, it's probably even cheaper for kids) for a day's pass - once again proving that sports aren't as expensive as you make them out to be.

I remember asking you why you're pretending that these things are so expensive when they evidently aren't. What was your answer to that?

>Anyway, you're choosing to ignore significant parts of my arguments
Which ones?

Is the only sense of accomplishment you feel related to being of value to others?

That's all man thanks for the info

There are two commodities in this world that matter: your time, and money.

As a NEET, you have unlimited time, but since your time is devoid of any kind of value, you have no money. Therefore, unless you can rely on the charity of others, and can live as a parasite, you will be a homeless loser or at best some weird backpacking hobo who scrapes by and mEEditates maaaan

Wageslaves at least acknowledge that if they trade some of their time for money, they are afforded certain freedoms the NEET lacks, such as being able to put a roof over their head, by food, have disposable income, spend money on their nieces and nephews, etc. At the very least, they know that losing 9 hours a day for five days a week and enjoying the fruits of your labour is better than being a worthless, narcissistic parasite that everybody views as a failure. They also acknowledge that it can always be worse, that for all of history it has been worse, and for some, this is perhaps enough.

Then there are the higher tier professions who make a fuckton of money, are smarter with their money, more flexible with their work schedule, and can enjoy a lot of added financial social benefits the wage slave aspires to the and the NEET deludes himself into believing he doesn't want, such as, having a smoking hot girlfriend, having a retirement plan, being capable of raising a family successfully, buying expensive technology or investing in expensive hobbies for shits and gigs, etc. Yes, they have to work 8 hour days, but they're so committed and competent in their field and receive so much social validation for this it hardly becomes and issue, and who cares when you see the thousands piling up in your bank account?

do you have value in yourself, do have any value at all in this world?

Of course. If I wouldn't value myself, I wouldn't bother living.

And then there's the new rich, the freelance entrepreneur who sells some kind of non-physical product or service, charges ludicrous prices to high ticket clients, requires very small amounts of time spent actually working from their laptop in their pyjamas, sets the parameters for every transaction, has a bookshelf full of books he binge bought on Amazon and never reads, meditates 15 minutes in the morning, goes to the gym, sees some friends, has interesting hobbies, and will generally just do a bunch of fun shit with their disposable income in order to avoid falling into the abyss of nihilism. That abyss is the domain of the NEET, who has even more free time than the freelancer but absolutely nothing to show for it.

Joke's on you. I wake up at 7AM an don't shit in the morning.

give me the definition of a wageslave then kiddo.If you can then this thread is based on a factual concept of wageSLAVERY in the actual slavery definition

this will be funny

>The communal ski lift here costs €10.50 (for adults, it's probably even cheaper for kids) for a day's pass - once again proving that sports aren't as expensive as you make them out to be.
Riight.
>onthesnow.co.uk/styria/skipass.html

>Which ones?
>No, not really. We both know studies show that the amount of income positively correlates with perceived quality of life up to ~$70k/yr. Poverty means increased stress and uncertainty.

no problem.Def look into it if you think you can do it.Like I said,people look down on janitors...but the factory workers I clean for only make 9 an hour.I make more on part time then they do at full.Plus better insurance.

Its not a glamours job,but taking a job no one else wants to do can be a big payoff.

This sounds like a good use of my time.

>Charles Bukowski

A kike who doesn't want to earn his living and just leech off society? IMAGUHN MAI SHAWK

>This sounds like a good use of my time
>Translation:I cant

bye

>>Western civilization is a meme
Indeed.
>>The true redpill is to become a nigger
The true redpill is to work against the system, one step a day, until we can finally bomb their shit down.

well you might not have the balls to end your life, in that case enjoy your mental illness and you can argue all you like now that you are here forever. But in time you will become one with us and get up of your lazy fat arse after understanding it takes real time and effort to produce that shit you consume and that includes all that porn you jerk off too...

>onthesnow.co.uk/styria/skipass.htm
Ok?

>studies show that the amount of income positively correlates with perceived quality of life up to ~$70k/yr. Poverty means increased stress and uncertainty.
Studies don't account for the individual. There's no stress or uncertainty in my life.

I really like how you get upset over me allegedly ignoring points - and then you go and ignore mine.

Why do you pretend that hobbies are expensive when they evidently aren't?

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Hey nigger, whatever helps you sleep at night.