A large majority of Germans (65 percent) wants the EU to stand firm against Britain during the talks. The share of “hardliners” is highest amongst supporters of the Greens party (75 percent) and the Social Democrats (71 percent) and lowest amongst eastern Germans (46 percent) and AfD supporters (47 percent).
Especially this last finding once more reaffirms a certain “Kantian” attitude of Germans as sticklers for principles and opponents of “cherry picking”. Lord Dahrendorf already in 1979 derided this attitude as some “strange puritanism, not to say masochism”, according to which “Europe has to hurt in order to be good.”
Either way it won't change anything for you Hans, you'll keep being a wagecuck, you'll keep paying taxes to import horders of sandniggers to fuck your women. Whether you like it or not.
Christopher Cook
>Can a Brit tell me why we Germans shouldn't want the EU to negotiate hard?
You should. We should negotiate hard as well. Germany is going to destroy Europe for the 4th time, it is important that we don't let you drag us down with you.
Ryder Nguyen
Yes, so? As I quoted above, "Europe has to hurt in order for us to feel anything any more".
>You should. We should negotiate hard as well. Germany is going to destroy Europe for the 4th time
Can you elaborate on how the first part relates to the second part? How can we "destroy" Europe? How for the 4th time? And how would Europe be destroyed by the EU negotiating hard with the UK?
Glad you cunts are all here. I hope you fuck each other up and force a unification of Ireland so American companies can plant the flag on that Island and finally dominate the atlantic wholesale. You will pay our tarrifs whether you like it or not Yuroscum. England gets the best breaks because they will be annointed to sell our products to the continent, French get nothing because they are smelly, and Germany will give us discounted mercedes and BMW so we can be jack deisel in these streets.
Anthony Taylor
just fuck our shit up already desu
William Martin
>just fuck our shit up already desu
I think the idea is to just stall and stall and stall and stall... forever. It is an interesting strategy and something the EU is good at... waiting shit out and doing nothing.
Kayden Sullivan
It's an Anglo, why do you care what he thinks?
Gott strafe England (und vernichte das treulose Italien)
the attitude of Brussels has been ideal in maintaining public opinion more or less behind Brexit in the face of 2 years of absolutely fuck-all leadership or delivery by the government - sort of rams home why we wanted to get out in the first place
Isaac Sanders
Ah, Jimmy John's. That sign was my first time reading German in my day to day.
>maintaining public opinion more or less behind Brexit in the face of 2 years of absolutely fuck-all leadership or delivery by the government Do you think that wasn't deliberately? Don't you think the EU knows exactly why they are fucking up the negotiations? Isn't the UK government in conflict within all the time exactly because the whole Brexit thing is not a smooth ride?
realistically whats stopping us from just pulling the plugs, halting payments and reversing all EU laws without even communicating with the eu supreme council. This is the best option as all they can do is just try to smite us and that will loose favour with the public on both sides eu citizens and the uk. Our cuck politicians wont do this tho, half of them want to stay in so theyll jeproadise us all by playing the eu's game
Lincoln Rodriguez
>Germany has never won a war lmao So? It is better trying to win for a better future than fucking up Europe with degeneracy and Commonwealth imports.
>Germany leant have a border or a currency lol What is "leant" in there doing? Do you mean "don't"? We sure have a border, it just isn't protected just as your Irish border isn't protected. And the Euro is our currency just as English people have the BRITISH pound as a currency. >Dresden lol What lol? Pic related. Better than the Caliphate of Birmingham... or Londonistan.
>realistically whats stopping us from just pulling the plugs, halting payments and reversing all EU laws without even communicating with the eu supreme council. Nothing really. But your own government is way too pussy to do anything resembling it. Also your industry has too much influence in your gov.
> This is the best option as all they can do is just try to smite us and that will loose favour with the public on both sides eu citizens and the uk. I just posted a poll that shows in Europe, the people who matter want the EU to be cold negotiators and ride your ass like a 17yr old aristocrat English school girl rides her... horse on the weekend.
>Our cuck politicians wont do this tho, half of them want to stay in so theyll jeproadise us all by playing the eu's game 80% of your politicians want to stay. And 90% of the elites in your country want too. It is only the plebs which wants out because they think this will make Britain whiter. It would be funny, if it wasn't so sad.
>So? It is better trying to win for a better future than fucking up Europe with degeneracy and Commonwealth imports.
You really didn't know that the entire """""refugee"""" """""""crisis""""""" snowballed in the way that it did because of the direct invitation issued by Angela Merkel to all third world peoples to come and ravage Europe? Or was it just convenient to forget it? I'd love to hear your take on how that constitutes winning a better future.
Nathaniel Cruz
>because of the direct invitation issued by Angela Merkel
Did Putin not say in the video above that Merkel runs nothing?
Lucas Cox
>The share of “hardliners” is highest amongst supporters of the Greens party (75 percent) and the Social Democrats (71 percent)
Not surprising, they are traitors to the german people.
Isaiah Jackson
>because they think this will make Britain whiter It's funny to see Germans think like this when you've ensured your country will never be white again. 2030, was it?
Carson Ramirez
The EU should negotiate hard, if an insitution doesn'r prioritise itself in such a competitive fractured world then it will collapse quickly.
The main concern of most Brits is why the pathetic skank Theresa May put herself forward for PM when she is to much of a coward to even try and get us a good Brexit deal. She is treating it as loss control instead of a new oppotunity, as if "no-deal" is armageddon when in reality it is just WTO tarrifs which will make a neglegible impact on a predominantly import trade relationship with Europe.
She's fucking pathetic, she has no spine, she is not a leader, she is a treacherous cum rag, so fucking awful that I would even rather see Corbyn in charge than her.
Charles Cox
The British are even "blackening" the royal family. So progressive!
Joshua Gomez
With an American negro
Ian Jackson
>when you've ensured your country will never be white again We have 400,000 blacks in Germany, that is 0.5% of our population. We have another 1% Asians. That's it. The rest is Turks and Middle Easterners and Europeans.
80% of Pakis and Nigerians in Europe live in the UK.
>predominantly import trade relationship with Europe. It doesn't work like this, Ahmed. Not sure if I should even try to explain what an integrated supply chain or integrated service sectors mean.
Carson Clark
That took you a while Hans, and with that cherry-picking, I'd guess you're pretty flustered. It's okay, you don't need to try and come up with excuses, all of your lot with have to answer to God in the end.
Jeremiah Adams
I hope you keep pushing as you are now so that eventually the cucks get pushed out of our government and hardliners like Mogg get in,.
Nolan Butler
Oh look, another American negro, you sure seem to have a lot, fancy that.
Jordan Allen
Almost 1 in 4 people living in Germany are not German, that 1 is breeding faster than the other 3 combined
Levi Gomez
>majority of Polish women choose Polish men >majority of others choose European men >a small percentage chooses blacks or Muslims Really makes you think.
Parker Evans
I still can't figure out why Bongs should give a shit either, most of Europe doesn't have a military at this point.
Leo Jones
>Ahmed You've imported almost the same number of Muslims via the Syrian "refugee" crisis alone than the entire sum of the UK's muslims population, and you're calling me Ahmed?
Sebastian Martin
What dumb shit you talking about you retarded Christian monkey of CDU?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_Adenauer >German statesman who served as the first post-war Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany (West Germany) from 1949 to 1963. >He was the first leader of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU), a Christian Democratic party
ORIGINAL REFUGEE LAW: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abkommen_über_die_Rechtsstellung_der_Flüchtlinge >Am 22. April 1954 trat die Konvention in den ersten sechs Unterzeichnerstaaten in Kraft (Australien, Belgien, Bundesrepublik Deutschland, Dänemark, Luxemburg, Norwegen). Translation: >On 22 April 1954, the Convention entered into force in the first six signatory countries (Australia, Belgium, Federal Republic of Germany, Denmark, Luxembourg, Norway).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Kohl >Chancellor of Germany from 1982 to 1998 (of West Germany 1982–1990 and of the reunited Germany 1990–1998) and as the chairman of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU) from 1973 to 1998.
>Almost 1 in 4 people living in Germany are not German Nope. Wrong. 22% in Germany have a "migration background", 2/3rds of them from Europe. 1/3rd from elsewhere including Germanics from the ex-Soviet Union.
Again, we might have a Muslim problem, but we don't have a white problem... all the black Africans and Commonwealth brownies go to the UK.
>almost the same number of Muslims via the Syrian "refugee" crisis alone than the entire sum of the UK's muslims population Ahmed, I know your math skills are pretty bad, but 450,000 Syrian Muslims in Germany aren't anywhere close to your 5 million Muslims. And we won't come close to your 13 million Muslims by 2050...
>2/3rds of them from Europe yes and these stupid statistics consider anyone with a european passport to be "european" including all of the muslim economic migrants and "refugees" and turks thanks to the worthless EU passports which they hand out like candy to children
Ryan Foster
It's funny how all you Germans do is grovel and try to deflect, it's almost surprising how Jewish you all act considering the holohoax
Justin Kelly
>stupid statistics consider anyone with a european passport to be "european" Nope, not really. They look at where you were born. And no, there aren't many Polish Muslims or Ukrainian Muslims moving to Germany.
Jack Green
>450,000 Syrian Muslims Wow if you ignore all of the muslims who came during the refugee crisis who are not from Syria you are right! Congratulations! We have approximately 3 million muslims in the UK, Germany has been taking in excess of half a million """""""""refugees""""""""" for the past 6 years, do the maths No they dont, they take into consideration your passport, this is how they trick stupid kraut cunts like you into thinking your proto-slavic genetics are safe when in reality you are already a quarter of the way to eradication
Jonathan Jones
picture related: >Main recipients of citizenships granted by EU Member States, 2016 >Three main citizenships granted protection status in the EU, 2017 >Positive decisions on asylum applications in 2017 >First-time asylum applicants by country of citizenship in 2017 >First residence permits issued in the EU by citizenship, 2016
You hand out 500000 residence permits 400000 asylums/protections and 100000 citizenships to niggers and arabs each year. EACH FUCKING YEAR. Migrant background is counting citizenships only. You add minimum 1 million niggers and arabs each year to Germany, not even counting illegals. Similar story with UK. Are you going to wake up soon? You are working with those people every day, you are selling them apartments every day, you are living with them every day, don't pretend you don't know what the fuck is going on. You are just greedy as hell.
>100000 citizenships to niggers and arabs 70% of the citizenships granted were to Europeans, 20% to Turks and 10% to "other".
Don't talk bullshit about stuff you don't know. The stats are available online.
Samuel Fisher
This Muhammidan isn't giving up huh? Almost painful to watch
Bentley Gray
>Europeans Oh look its that word again. The word "European" actually emant something substantial untill your crack pot union started shitting out tens of millions of European passports for any cunt who lays a toenail on continental soil
Asher Brown
I don't have to be a citizen to work, study or live in Germany. What do your migrant backgrounds and population statistics tell me? Not the whole picture. Students aren't citizen, refugees aren't citizen, people with protection status aren't citizen, residence permit people aren't citizen, visa people aren't citizen, illegals aren't citizen...all those people don't exist in your migrant background or population statistics, but they are in Germany.
>.all those people don't exist in your migrant background or population statistics, but they are in Germany. Are you kidding me? We count everyone. You can't do shit nothing in Germany without being registered. And those registrations are compiled and released every year so people can see who lives in Germany - regardless of status, students, citizens, illegals, criminals EU citizens etc.
Ethan Sanchez
And all the muslims and africans who now have Italian, Greek, Austrian, Swedish, German, French, Spanish and Portugues passports.
The concept of the "European" has been irrevocably poisoned by blindsighted German stupidity.
John Myers
>all the muslims and africans who now have Italian, Greek, Austrian, Swedish, German, French, Spanish and Portugues passports. Look at the naturalization figures in these countries - it is a few thousand. Unlike in the UK, it is actually not that easy to get a passport if you are a Muslim or African in Europe. Also, once you have a passport, you are actually fucked, as EU law allows to discriminate on gibs... and e.g. Germany does that - if you are Austrian, no gibs from Germany for you!
Samuel Torres
>Look at the naturalization figures in these countries okay you lying marxist cunt, I will
>In 2016, 994800 people obtained citizenship of an EU-28 Member State, a increase of 18 % compared with 2015.
Of those acquiring citizenship of an EU-28 >Member State, 87 % had previously been citizens of non-EU countries. Of these, citizens of Morocco made up the highest numbers, followed by citizens of Albania, India, Pakistan and Turkey.
Whenever a German refers to a "European", ignore him, it's a thinly veiled disguise for another muslim or african he wants in his neighbourhood raping his younger sister
Ian Cook
You do, really? >picture related says it is based on citizenship
someone needs to find this faggot a boyfriend so he stops posting shit threads on Jow Forums
Easton Moore
>994800 people obtained citizenship of an EU-28 Member State, a increase of 18 % compared with 2015. >Of those acquiring citizenship of an EU-28 >Member State, 87 % had previously been citizens of non-EU countries. Of these, citizens of Morocco made up the highest numbers, followed by citizens of Albania, India, Pakistan and Turkey.
This increase occurred after two consecutive years of decrease. The main contribution to the increase at EU level came from Spain (36 600 more persons were granted Spanish citizenship than in 2015), followed by the United Kingdom (+31 400), Italy (+23 600), Greece (+19 300) and Sweden (+12 300).
Most new citizenships in 2016 were granted by Italy (201 600 or 20 % of the EU-28 total), Spain (150 900 or 15 %), the United Kingdom (149 400 or 15 %), France (119 200 or 12 %) and Germany (112 800 or 11 %).
Looks to me that 2/3rds of this shit is due to Spain (South American immigrants), France (French colonies), Italians (whoever) and UK (Commonwealthers)... and not Germany.
Ayden Thompson
Us Brits hate our countries failures on immigration, its why we voted for Brexit and why we continue to vote for "conservatives" in the hope that they will be conservative despite their continuous failure. Americans are similar, voting for Trump in spite of the power of the deep state, the French too, almost elected Le Pen and over half now want to leave the EU.
But the Germans are different, these carcinogenic scum bags will continue to ignore not only their governments betrayal of their own people, but their governments betrayal of every single European individual across all 28 nations.
Their is a special place in hell reserved for the eternal kraut and his relentless campaign to bring europe to its knees
The reason for such high naturalisation is because of EU regulation on passport acquisition by migrants.
During this pathetic migrant crisis other the past decade, the EU has literally forced member states to patriotise hundred of thousands of muslims and africans as soon as they step foot in europe
It is your country spearheading this union, it is your country that funds it and hold it up and it is your satan worshipping leader who you elect who calls enforced all of the rules that come down from the unelected commission
Nolan Wright
>negotiate hard its only ok when the EU does it! when Trump negotiates 1/100th as hard the whole world is in terror
Alexander Morales
Of course the Cucked Krauts want the EU to be uncompromising, they are by far the most powerful country and the EU and benefit the most from the EU.
Foreigner = foreigner born = with migration background = has citizenship of Germany, but wasn't born in Germany. If you get born in Germany you get automatically citizenship as NATIVE, even if born to Turk or African. An Arab born in Germany is German native.
>EU regulation on passport acquisition by migrants. The EU says shit nothing about that. You have 5 years for naturalisation, we have 8 years (plus lots of bureaucracy), Austria has 10 years and wants to increase it to 15-20years, Switzerland has 20-30 years etc.
Our naturalisations have been pretty constant, mostly Europeans and Turks who were already born in Germany and after graduating school decide to become Germans.
The definition of a population group with a migration background makes clear that migration as a thematic area does not only focus on immigrants as such, but must include certain descendants who are born in Germany, too.
Thus, the population group with a migration background consists of all persons who have immigrated into the territory of today’s Federal Republic of Germany after 1949, and of all foreigners born in Germany and all persons born in Germany who have at least one parent who immigrated into the country or was born as a foreigner in Germany. The migration status of a person is determined based on his/her own characteristics regarding immigration, naturalisation and citizenship and the relevant characteristics of his/her parents.
This means that German nationals born in Germany may have a migration background, too, be it as children of Ethnic German repatriates, as children born to foreign parents (in accordance with the so-called ius soli principle) or as German nationals with one foreign parent. This migration background is exclusively derived from the characteristics of the parents. And those concerned cannot pass the migration background on to their offspring. As regards immigrants and foreigners born in Germany, however, they can pass their background on. In accordance with the relevant legal provisions concerning foreigners, this definition typically covers first to third generation immigrants.
Joshua Hall
Look it up, Anglotard
I don't know if people keep saying that here because it's a meme or because you are really all this ignorant
There is no mandate from the people for any 'negotiation'.
We voted to tell the EU to fuck off, not for any cunt to be making deals with them.
Jaxon Baker
>ECHR completely prevents the deportation of illegal immigrants on the grounds of human rights and forces quotas down every nations throat >EU prevents mediterranean countries from stopping the the literal hordes of foreigners washing up on their shores DAILY not only with regulation but with billion pound media campaigns >hurr durr EU says nothing about giving passports
Yes so countries must choose between having Calais situation or giving passports so these fuckers will leave to Germany where they belong
It's very simple: Foreigner = migrant background = German citizenship = German. Child born to one parent in Germany who was born abroad = NOT a foreigner = migrant background = German citizenship = German Refugee = tourist = student = asylum = illegal = protected = stateless = residence permit = NOT CITIZENSHIP Of course citizen have to have residence permit first, so they are both with permit and with citizenship.
Original German statistics definition for migrants from official German statistics page of government: destatis.de/DE/ZahlenFakten/GesellschaftStaat/Bevoelkerung/MigrationIntegration/Glossar/Migrationshintergrund.html >Eine Person hat einen Migrationshintergrund, wenn sie selbst oder mindestens ein Elternteil nicht mit deutscher Staatsangehörigkeit geboren wurde. Translation: >A person has a migration background if they themselves or at least one parent was not born with German citizenship.
So the situation is following: Ex-Soviet parents(1) moving to Germany and producing children(2) who produced their own children(3), those children aren't Migrationshintergrund (foreign born) people. (1) = foreign born (2) = foreign born (3) = native German
Ex-Soviets aren't migrants, ex-Soviets are 100% German natives.
Cooper Martinez
well its not like you will deal with the consequences it will just be places like Portugal and Spain and Italy and Greece that will suffer while you leech off their productivity just like you leech of NATO defence spending.
Mason Adams
because if you treat them badly, and give them a bad deal, they won't be inclined to be friendly with you and buy your luxury cars, wines, and whatever else you goys sell them
>southern member states must choose between accommodating 900,000 unskilled rapist murders who dont speak their language, or give them a passport so they fuck off to Sweden and Germany >EU has nothing to do with southern Europeans giving passports to a million foreigners a year >You are retarded
Hans, if you got citizenship you are a German, no matter the race or migrant background. If you are just Refugee = tourist = student = asylum = illegal = protected = stateless = residence permit or visa then you aren't citizen and aren't German, you aren't part of statistics of census.
Germans need to fuck off out of world politics. Everything they touch turns to shit
Charles Butler
Our government is a democracy, conflict is an inherent part of the system. Unlike your system where your leaders make shady backroom deals, when our leaders don't agree they argue it out until they can come to a compromise.
Hunter White
>Germany is going to destroy Europe for the 4th time, it is important that we don't let you drag us down with you. Think you'll find it was your country that destroyed Europe. Hitler didn't do nuffin wrong.
Jonathan Bell
Once again, German arrogance needs a reality check. I hope at some point Trump makes a reciprocity statement whereby in terms of protectionism the US plays as hard against the EU as the EU does against Britain. It appears to me Germany wants to act punitively against Britain, and can afford to do so as the EU is much larger economically. A trade war with the US -- easily ended by ceasing the pettiness against the UK and agreeing to mostly free trade + sovereign borders -- would put pressure on the already fragile fracture lines in the EU.
Its a nice sentiment but the the actions of the UK government (and population) suggest that we do not deserve US support. There has been nothing but ridicule and disdain for Trumps presidency in parliament besides the words of a few, powerless backbenchers. Meanwhile Theresa May licks the anus of the EU right down to the very last dingle berry with the severely delusional perspective on a hope that their demands only resign us mildly severe poverty. She is pathetic. I honestly look forward to seing a USA that puts itself first. You can shine bright with your freedoms of speech and right to bare arms whilst the rest of the world complains about it in squalor.
