Fuck it - I'm going MGTOW. Here's why:

>look mom, I read the Selfish Gene of Richard Dawkins, now I deserve a raise in my allowace

in relationships it's often not (just) the dick but also the heart that gets involved.
The possibility of getting hurt is always gven when you want to have close relationships

Immediate fuck up in first sentence: leaving your girlfriend behind at a party full of booze and horny guys. You did it to yourself.

mfw taking this long to realize what you just realized

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MGTOW is a logical progression from Cultural Marxism.

Thanks Commies!

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>If you let a woman emotionally affect you. You have lost.
>the entire point of a relationship is to be emotionally effect by a woman.

Perfectly possible with someone who DOES take full responsibility for themselves, no?

Yes of course, she isn't responsible for her own actions.

catalonians don't have parties
stop larping, muslim

And when she realises this and uses it to shit all over you? I call that losing.

yeah but many men also don't take "responsibility" by replacing their gf if they find something better or by not planning intending to engage ito a relationship while the woman is in love etc.
These "hurt" is mutual. Responsible is to accept this as a possible part of being human.

but you could use this too if she is more emotionally involved than you.

Ive been fighting for the protection of the white race but maybe we should just let the savages have it. The world will literally fall apart and finally be destroyed. Either that or we burn all 11k nukes spread just right to kill everyone or at least all civilization.

Women are emotional and mentally unstable. They are not designed by the creator to be the leaders of a relationship. Men are. Yet women have taught to be men. Fail.

Homosexuality is evil. Plain and simple. So don’t even consider trying that fudge packing nonsense.

Forget about dating. Forget about marriage. Start making money, lots and lots of money. Build up your net worth and the women who are worth anything will start to follow you. Don’t beg women for their approval, be an alpha and make them beg you to just even look at them.

> (You)
>but you could use this too if she is more emotionally involved than you.
I'm not female, I wouldn't be that much of a cunt.

this whole 'having a relationship' thing is a meme. You can have short intense relationships which are mostly just sex, or you can have actual codified marriage a la Islam or Christianity.

This in between business is a meme.

I think it’s state of mind. Just don’t chase sex and you’re pretty much MGTOW. Most men go for lust and most women expect (or hope) to be lusted after. You have a better chance throwing all your money into a casino.

what a stupid meme, why is being a virgin such a big deal to you guys?

>the entire point of a relationship is to be emotionally effect by a woman.
Why do you think that? How could you? Women don't want a husband who bends to their emotions, they want a rock in their storm. You gain little from it either, and risk losing far more. Just look at the state of the western world.

Like what, do you talk about your fears and insecurities with a bitch before she fucks you in the ass?

Human beings are more than flesh

this bot again...

but you "could" do it and many men do it

Yeah but ppl like OP have to act super entitled to getting laid, as if realizing they cant have whoever they want (simply because they want them) is a huge revelation. So they have to make it a big emotional thing and cant just use calm detachment.

Its really just damage control for being emotionally underdeveloped

Being virgin is actually the ultimate alpha, granted the man is not some fat and disgusting video game nerd. A strong and athletic virgin man who is making lots and lots of money is the king of all other shit souls betas.

>Leaving your girl at a party
>Ever

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because one aspect of a relationship is to be emotionally involved with that person.
That alone gives another person the potential power to hurt you

Having a braidead goat GF is sad.

Change your phone number and don't give the new one to your Ex. Go to the gym. Get fit. Develop yourself with singular focus.

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Good for them, I've better things to do than put up with a woman's bullshit.

>super entitled to getting laid
>anywhere in the OP
Shill or cunt.

What

>being so insecure girl cant walk down the street without him

you should move to the middle east, user

This troubles me. We should just seek out chill girls and date them. Right? There are still good women out there. Life should be easier with a supportive female by your side. They live life on easy mode anyway, so some of that is bound to rub off on you and if it doesn't you can always rub one off on her!!

Lol are you people mentally retarded. It’s fine to let your girl go places without you, it’s not okay to leave her at a mating grounds fuck-festival you stupid nigger

Incel cope. Mgtow is a reactionary movement rather than a proactive one. You'll abandon your flimsy movement the
The moment you run into another female who will show interest in you.

But what do I know this is all an elaborate larp

but you should if your flag is correct. Cyprus only has 800.000 people. You should go and find a Cypriotic girl and should breed cypriotic manlets

Enjoy taking care of """your""" wife's son soiboi

>you'll abandon your flimsy movement the moment you run into another female

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This.

Fair enough, but it should take a while to become emotionally invested. Don't get attached to every cunt with a pretty face, wait until they do something to earn your respect first.

thats why its good to just abuse the fuck out of roasties. Only like 2% are actually marriageable.

>you don‘t let your girlfriend meet up with Tyrone & Chad? Don’t you trust her? You insecure guy, you! She deserves better!

Not my nationality only my location, but bring a child into this pathetic world we have right now? Where borders are porous, socialism is promoted, freedom is being ebbed away. I wouldn't wish the loss of self determination on my worst enemy, let alone my own fucking child.

Had a similar experience back in 2013. girl i was with at the time didn't tell me until about two weeks after it happened, but admitted she slept with some dude she met at a bar. after asking some questions she admitted she had met him a week before, and they were texting before they met again that night. the only difference between mine and OPs story is she was in tears begging for forgiveness, which i did not give. She tried to sweeten things with some sob story about how she was crying as she left his place and regretted it, but to me there is no redemption in a relationship once things go to shit like that. afterwards i didn't go full MGTOW as you'd call it now. I spent a lot of time working on myself, traveling, and my career. it's not like i'm magically a millionaire who has turned his life around 5 years later, but I'm definitely better off and happier single than I was in any relationship.

society judges men for not living up to our parents/peers expectations for relationships and marriage, but honestly after someone gets burned by a woman like that why would I want to continue to make an effort? you don't tell a combat veteran who lost a limb or worse saw his friends die in front of him "oh you'll get over it, jump back in there and try again!" do you? you don't tell a woman who was emotionally abused by her husband "oh you're just imagining it, stick in there you're a good wife!" there are so many double standards that it's hard for men to protect themselves nowadays. I don't think MGTOW is the answer, but i don't see anything wrong with men choosing to live their own life considering the conditions of society that we live in.

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It's really just a proportional response to the shit tier state of modern women. You want to replace the need for men with the nanny state, compete for jobs with men, and vote to open the gates to the barbarians, all while being a smug cunt about it? Die screaming, whore, and I hope you suffer every moment between now and then.

>Not my nationality only my location, but bring a child into this pathetic world we have right now?

Yes. People had children under worse conditions and maybe your child will be the next leader who guides the world into a new age of peace and prosperity? Or at least isn't a complete retard?
I don't get why people who are aware of the situation don't want to have children. If only retards and fanatics have children, nothing will ever change.

This is how alphas act. There‘s too many beta cucks in the west who enable this kind of behavior. I often read around infidelity forums and the guys there are the most pathetic faggots I‘ve ever seen who forgive their whore girlfriends/wives for getting fucked by Chad multiple times and then take her back and still stick around, while being cheated on.

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>the degeneration of the family unit is a good thing
very good goy

That’s all well and good, but there will probably be a period of feeling worthless just from a lack of validation, it’s when you learn to validate your own existence that you truly set yourself free.

I spent my ENTIRE teenage life pining after girls, was in a ltr from 17-20, and when she left me I was completely heartbroken until I was almost 22, but on my 21st birthday, I said fuck it and started working out, it took nearly a year, but I got to a point where I looked in the mirror and thought “you look pretty damn good” and it was like something snapped in me.

I started to see how good of a man I was, I’m kind, I’m smart, I’m attractive, I’m funny, and all of these were things I could continue to develop, to become an even better man.

And I stopped caring about women that night too. I came to realize all I’d ever wanted from them was validation, and now I was getting it from myself.

If a woman who I am worthy for and vice verse appears, I will be happy to be her man, but until then, I’m truly happy and content just bettering myself.

I'll be dead and buried safe in the knowledge i didn't afflict this shit on anyone. Your argument appears to be it's my responsibility to keep the line going because my children might save the world from itself? The world can suffer and die so far as I'm concerned.

>thinks words have to be used explicitly for them to be relevant

Cleetus here is a good example of why we need more funding for education in the south

How could you guys possibly be alpha (let alone attractive) if you're already so nervous your lady is gonna find someone better LOL I swear this website is a breeding ground for crippling low self esteem

At least MGTOW accelerationism may spark some real change. What has traditionalism accomplished in the last century except losing culturally and socially in almost every single arena?

lol. nice recruitment attempt. Gays are the same drama but the scene is all dick

>UGH UGH UGH PLEASE FUCK MY WIFE HARDER TYRONE HNNNNNGGGHHHH

You were lucky, user.
The worst ones don't leave. They just slowly destroy you to drive you off.

>want to compete with men for jobs
>want to advocate for political change
>dont want to fuck you

wow, its almost as if they are other guys... which are human omg!

you're so salty its hilarious

fair enough. Very nihilistic view though

we dont need more children, the population doesnt need to grow endlessly, that is reckless and stupid.

our population wouldnt decline forever just because it starts to. that is just a symptom of bigger problems

like the fact that we really just need a lot less of other certain kinds of people

our birthrates are faster than our death rates now anyway, not that itl make any significant difference

I’ve told every girl I’ve had that if she cheats that is the end of it, not because I will instantly lose love for her, but because all the trust would be instantly gone. You can’t have a relationship without trust. Luckily I’ve never been cheated on, and god willing I never will be.

It's not a fear. It's knowledge. ALL women will monkey branch because they are hard wired to do so.

MGTOW acceleration is a meme. That’s like saying that NEETs can overload the system by taking welfare

>. People had children under worse conditions

when our birthrates were high, they werent under the condition where men had a 50% chance of losing fucking everything, like we are now, you moron

people were literally starving and working like slaves and they still had more kids than we're willing to now, now that its so likely to just ruin our lives

how are you too stupid to realize this

Good man. I also upvoted your post on r/MGTOW

I had a coworker who confided to me that his wife and mother of his son cheated on him with her ex boyfriend TWICE when she went back home to visit her parents. guy was obviously devastated, asked me and another coworker who was married for advice. I told him that it was not even an argument, that the marriage is over and he needs to seek legal counsel ASAP. the other married coworker (who is still my good friend) swayed him a little bit by saying that him and his wife have issues but they work it out because they "love each other." the funny part is that same coworker ended up getting a divorce from his wife.

anyway, sadly the guy ended up staying with his cheating spouse, he kept on using his son as a crutch and saying that he didn't want him to grow up in a broken home. very sad. he was never the same after that.

Don’t be a retard, MGTOW is already making a change.

The whole “all women are thots” and “no hymen no diamond” thing going on in normie memes is based on MGTOW.

NEETs and shitskins certainly will overload the system eventually at the rate things are going

I don't really reject the idea of morals though?

>U-uh baby can you send me pictures of you and your friends just so I know it's a "girls night out"?

>I love you darling... but if you ever sleep with anyone else i'll kill myself

>really im just looking for confirmation biases to stay emotionally immature and racist

Who said anything about being nervous that a woman might find someone better? We are describing the reality of the situation. We don‘t worry because we know that the vast majority of women aren‘t marriage material and that they aren‘t worth the energy an effort to keep around. If we choose to engage with women, our expectations are low anyways, so we don‘t worry about shit. We‘re just educating bluepilled guys who pedestalize women about female nature and tell them how to act when they experience the inevitable.

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>Oy vey goyim, stop having white children, it's redpilled!

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Its fear, stop trying to rationalize it.

Its not like in this day and age every sexual encounter leads to children.. if a girl sleeps with someone else - you know you can just leave her and get over it? Right?

>having a gf
>going to parties
for what purpose ?

Also you sound immature, just because society tells you to get a gf and get married or you're a loser doesn't mean you have to.

Just do what makes you happy, don't try to live up to other people's norms.

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>Leaving your gf at a party with tons of single men looking for a quick fuck
>Alcohol and drugs being consumed everywhere
>”Haha dude you don’t trust her?”

You know it’s not just cheating to worry about you pathetic beta male, she can also be raped or stalked. Why would you ever leave her at a place like a “party”. Jesus christ you are probably a virgin.

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You have overcome the initial phase.
You have proved you're strong enough to live in this world.

Semper Fi

>Implying spending = quality
You're a literal democratic plant.

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>heh, it's current year, you sexist bigot
>let Chad fuck your girl while you watch, or else you're a fucking sexist

>you know you can just get over the last 5 years you spent creating a relationship with this woman because she cold heartedly threw it away, right? God why are you such pussies.

No.

MGTOW is freedom from cultural marxism.

>Its not like in this day and age every sexual encounter leads to children.. if a girl sleeps with someone else - you know you can just leave her and get over it? Right?

not if you have kids with her, then you have to pay her because she cheated on you

you fucking stupid kike

>Memes are changing the world

>We‘re just educating bluepilled guys who pedestalize women

you're the only ones putting women on a pedestal, thinking they will give you their undying love and affection because you date them.

Also
>Who said anything about being nervous that a woman might find someone better?
You did

i hope so too, for your sake. it's a truly shitty thing for anyone to have to go through, as evidenced by the huge amount of people who go into denial over it and stay with cheating partners. I have a good friend who knows his wife cheated on him and took her back, they just had their second child not too long ago. when we drink he tells me he still doesn't trust her more than 6 years later. in fact, his thought on cheating now is that he'd rather not find out if it happens because it's such a burden. this is a 27 year old man. I worry about his mental health and the mental health of other friends who were in the same situation.

>getting emotionally attached to a relationship

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Hey roastie,it's a pathway to getting young men not to fear, and not give a fuck. Then they become the men who pounded your snootch and were gone by morning. Which is all you were any good for. Those of us who had fathers told us these things in advance.

Wow, sure well adjusted people will post such thing just in a second.

Its funny how you call me a virgin and yet you are so over protective about a hypothetical woman

Have you considered that if you can't be secure with yourself in a situation like that, you shouldn't be dating in the first place? You sound like a little fucking baby who NEEDS his mom to give him attention and noone/nothing else.

>Thinks im a "shill" because I disagree with him

Wow Cleetus, that deep state southern hostility paranoia really doing you in.

But your right, how could spending more money on education POSSIBLY make it more effective? Y O U R so smart

Imagine being so degenerate you cant provide for a woman
Make them the woman you want them to be.

Why the fuck would you want to have kids with a woman you don't trust in the first place? This isn't rocket science.

Although its now becoming increasingly obvious why girls would want to cheat on someone like you, and honestly I cant blame them one bit

fucking homo mgtow lol... my marriage of 15 years broke down and I went total war... installed spyware on her phone and got all the evidence I needed... She didn't even want to step into court after I showed my 2 daughters who were tweens at the time what she had been doing behind everyone's backs.
I took full custody of my 2 daughters and son and I raised 2 non whore daughters who are doing great in life and am having my son home schooled on a science/programming heavy curriculum.
What my ex did hurt, it hurt like fucking hell but you have to be strong and do the right thing by your children. My daughters know not just to never relax around shitskins but also not to be around them in the first place and my son is full 1488.
MGTOW are just soft pussies like those kids who act tough but crumble and cry after getting punched in the nose once.
MGTOW and 3rd wave feminism are two sides to the same coin, both products of the jew.

inb4: "but we know your daughters are sluts, goy"

I think you're a "shill" because you're shitting up the board with a bunch of projections that follow standard SJW tactics, shill.

sure
after we crush feminism and exterminate all feminists and their friends in media and academia. It's the only way to be sure.

who said anything about me being female?

also, why the fuck do you think you deserve a loyal girlfriend while being so obviously sexist towards women in the first place? grow up. like I said in my last response, people like you DESERVE to be cheated on because you are not capable of having a healthy relationship.

I did. I said you were either a shill or a retarded cunt. It's almost like we can all smell you from here you disgusting fuck.