Has Capitalism metastasized completely out of control? Everything feels so chaotic and twisted

yes, and metastasized is very god analogy, in that the malady is no longer confined to business, but is now affecting all the other organs of society, from international diplomacy down to interpersonal relationships and families.

Furthermore, like a cancer, capitalism is composed of countless individual cells corrupted by its malign code- you and I, and eveyone we know.

>capitalism without any heed to the interests of the nation and its people
But why would the capitalists put the interests of the nation and its citizens above their own interests. You have to put yourself in their shoes. If they can hire workers for less money, why wouldn't they do it. Why wouldn't they shut down their factories here where the labor is "expensive" when they can pay a desperate third worlder to do the same thing. Or better yet, import all those third worlders so they can bring down the wages here.
>Globalism is artificial
Globalism is natural under this system. You want to sell your goods to as many people as possible. This means making things flow freely between countries. Also moving your capital to nations where it will go farther and then moving the goods to areas of the world where people will buy it.

Adam Smith said it best, capitalism only works when the actors behave rationally.

When the banker has to walk down the street and wave to the people he lends money to, he's not going to fuck them over.

When the banker lives ten thousand miles away, he doesn't care if he fucks them over.

>Has Capitalism metastasized completely out of control?
we don't have a democratic republic capitalistic state, we have a global elite mercantile state focused around the petrodollar

capitalism in the US died sometime around the early 1900s

Literally. Anything.

>capitalism in the US died sometime around the early 1900s

i have seen this idea around the chan, but i do not really know much about it.

what would real capitalism look like, as opposed to this corporate pyramid thing we got now?

yes, but the problem is not capitalism, the problem is people's complacency in face of the accumulation of power and influence. It feels as if power and wealth accumulates exponentially but at the same time technological advances increase comforts linearly, thus people are able to feel increasingly more comfortable while the gap between the average men and the elite widens.

>in that the malady is no longer confined to business, but is now affecting all the other organs of society, from international diplomacy down to interpersonal relationships and families.
And I'm seeing it affect other aspects of society first hand. It's utterly maddening. It's like people forgot what life was supposed to be about.

>But why would the capitalists put the interests of the nation and its citizens above their own interests.
Because "capitalists" are actually people who belong to a nation, a community, a faith. Henry Ford was a capitalist, George Soros by comparison is merely a tyrant, one that uses money to manipulate the entire world to his liking - he belongs to no nation, no community, he has no faith, his wealth is all pilfered.

In a healthy upright nation, what benefits the capitalist benefits the nation as well, which benefits the people as a whole, and although the capitalist is self-serving he is self-serving WITHIN a nation, a nation that benefits from his success - he is not an internationalist kike rat that just floats his money away to offshore locations across the world and loots the pockets of the people of the world as he desires. Capitalism is itself not a plague, it is PLAGUED BY internationalist Jews who belong to no nation, serve nobody, and are able to float around unscathed and unburdened due to our ruling class being totally spineless and effeminate and unwilling to punish them for their crimes against nations and people.

>this is fine

Reminds me of the boiling frog fable. We have been slowly eased into this brave newfound world.

It's not capitalism. Kill the global, embrace the local
Embrace neo-feudalism

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How do we deal with (((capitalism))) pol?

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You create something and attempt to trade it to someone else, either for goods, or for money that isn't controlled and manipulated by a bank.
Like gold.

Fuck you commie, you cannot have my stuff. Capitalism means that people are free to own capital. Capital is anything you can use to get ahead in life, and fuck you for suggesting I should give away my stuff to shiftless fucking niggers.

Drop the anti-capitalist leftist bullshit and we can talk about international bankers, which are an entirely separate phenomenon which doesn't inherently have anything to do with capitalism.

>Has Capitalism metastasized completely out of control? Everything feels so chaotic and twisted.
That's what you get when you have the Jews in your homelands.

>give me a better alternative
National Socialism and/or White Ethnostate.

>2018
>capitalist agreeing to suffer loses to accomodate the nation
d e l u s i o n a l

George Soros is the next step of evolution. The Henry Ford capitalist was establishing his wealth and securing his power. Once you've gotten to the stage where it doesn't matter what you do, your wealth will keep on making wealth without you don't anything, you can focus outwardly. You become a king and can use your power to play with society and mold it into any shape you want. He's won the game.
>In a healthy upright nation, what benefits the capitalist benefits the nation as well, which benefits the people as a whole, and although the capitalist is self-serving he is self-serving WITHIN a nation
So your saying the system has been infected with malevolent and machiavellian beings? Maybe such a system is predisposed to give the most ruthless and cut-throat individuals the advantage.

it would look like the US from around 1800-1900, more or less. The government broadly defines property rights and then shuts the fuck up.

Literally execute anybody without a passport in your nation, and to anybody at all outside your nation, do not let them do business within your nation.

This should already be a policy, without enforcing this you allow international businesses to open up shop in your community only to ship all the revenue somewhere out of the country, they siphon the wealth from the people of the nation into foreign hands, it is treason.

all of you have to read society of the spectacle

i've been feeling lately that Jow Forums has finally started to awaken to the evils of capitalism.

>lending money has nothing to do with capitalism
this is your brain on capitacuckism

I'vw ewcwntly watched that Madman TV program, nd it was surprisingly quite good bout the growth of this phenomena in the 1950s nd 60s.

Capitalism thrives on alienation and nostalgia, because insecurity demands retail satisfaction.

Advertising uses deep human truths to tap into your soul, and manipulates int a state of continual dissatisfaction- because after all, if were were content with ourselves, we would not buy moar.

Capitalism creates a neurotic individual, for a neurotic society.

>Maybe such a system is predisposed to give the most ruthless and cut-throat individuals the advantage.
That's like saying jungles are predisposed to having tigers in them, so the best way to get of tigers is to cut down the jungle.

Its only when countries bail out private banks that globalism can become the abomination it is today.

I never said that, I said a capitalist's success ought to be the nation's success. A nation's business leaders should be celebrated, but ultimately they must only be allowed to do business within the nation, and if they attempt to subvert this and move their money elsewhere they ought to be charged as traitors.

>I'm all for capitalism, but people doing business outside the borders should be killed
jesus, the quality of this board is in the shitter

>lending money has nothing to do with capitalism
It doesn't, bankers have existed for far longer than capitalism existed. How do you Marxists not know this?

Don't forget Italy.
The combined antiglobalist vote (M5S+Lega) was over 50% and both parties pulled further ahead aftrwards, they're over 65% in the latest polls.
The globalist parties got fucking steamrolled.

M5S and Lega also finally managed to get their shit together and they're working on a government to come up in the next few days.
Watch us closely, because this time around we're crashing the EU with no survivors.

>Only under the influence of globalists did capitalism spiral this badly out of control.

More like the end of the Soviet union

Capitalism as you see it is flawed, but it's the best so far.
Where else can the ability to publish thought through a screen of light and communicate said thought electronically anywhere in the world develop?
Property rights paved the way to innovation by rewarding hard work.

Again, the system is not perfect but literally anything else is worse.

>and if they attempt to subvert this and move their money elsewhere they ought to be charged as traitors.
That interferes with the free market though. At that point your basically telling the capitalists how to run their business. How do national businesses compete with foreign MNCs at that point.

We've been state-capitalist since WWII. Capitalism started to die after the civil war and fully died after world war II. RIP in peace, Republic. We empire now.

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>bankers have existed for far longer than capitalism existed
so? nigger, they are still the cornerstone of capitalism, are you retarded? yes you are since you shill for capitacuckism

How is it not treasonous to siphon money from your nation and feed it to another?

you just think im trump because i voted for him. im not crazy.

I'm not a free-market capitalist.

does your new coalition say theyre gonna baleet the eu?

>MS5
can't wait till they get exposed for being corrupt amateurs and the populist trend collapses

d e l u s i o n a l

>If they can hire workers for less money, why wouldn't they do it.

If they can pay politicians for the laws they want, why wouldn't they do it?

Precisely what China does.

>i've been feeling lately that Jow Forums has finally started to awaken to the evils of capitalism.
You're putting to much faith in the low-IQ burgers who make over 50% of this board, mate

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The west has been becoming more, and more socialistic over the years, and has been declining while doing so. "Capitalism's fault."

j e w i s h

Bankers are irrelevant to capitalism you dumb pollack. Me owning a lawnmower and renting it out to a neighborhood kid in exchange for a cut of his profits from mowing lawns is capitalism in action (I own a unit of capital and use it to create money), where does the banker fit into that transaction?

Hardly, it has become more neoliberal, socialism is dead.

Not immediately, but the government program draft that is circulating has >minibots and other anti-eu stuff in it.

White ethnostate with free healthcare, free apprenticeships and no grants from the government regarding college

Capitalism and communism are two sides of the same shekel

>Capitalism thrives on alienation and nostalgia, because insecurity demands retail satisfaction.
And alientation is what it got. Everything has been atomized and society has been rendered chaotic and dysfunctional.
>Capitalism creates a neurotic individual, for a neurotic society.
And people think this is the way it was supposed to be.

>International banking and Communism are two sides of the same shekel
FTFY

>banking has nothing to do with capitalism
americans, ladies and gentlemen!

>Hurr durr it's national socialism, because its named that way
>I dont know, that uncle Hitler promised to Bankers to do their bidding and killed all actual national socialists in the Night of Long Knifes

Probably LARPS NS, doesn't know shit abotu it. Jow Forums, everyone.

>A black man without a shirt on holding an AK represents Capitalism

Wow so deep

>, I said a capitalist's success ought to be the nation's success.

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horseshoe theory is gay

also you can't separate banking from capitalism, since lending money lets people open businesses

Why? Because your useless ass is poor?

But that's what capitalism is. Means of production owned by private hands to do as you wish. This implies the capitalist can do as he wishes within the reasonable laws of the land. You want something like means of production still owned by private actors but with "suggestions" from other people about what they can and can't do.

We haven't had anything resembling Capitalism since 1913 retard.

DUDE IT WASNT CAPITALISM, BECAUSE HITLER NEVER CALLED IT THAT WAY! HE CALLED IT SOCIALISM SO IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH (((CAPITALSM))) YOU KIKE SHILL

I can't help but notice that you didn't actually answer my question. Where does the banker fit into that capitalist transaction I presented to you?

Here's another question.
Where does a Jewish banker lending money to a feudal monarch to pay for a war fit into capitalism?

>capitalism was never tried

>capitalism creates poverty

fee.org/articles/capitalism-is-good-for-the-poor/

read please you ignorant slut before you get drop kicked out of a perfectly good Huey.

only poor people hates capitalim

I dare you to refute this

Are you triggered MAGApede?
I'm just going to say people not burdened by trying to make ends meet who have some free time on their hands are able to step back and look at the big picture. When you're a McDonalds worker slaving away everyday you don't really have time to think of these things. You're worried about more pressing matters.

REAL COMMIEFAGISM HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED GUISE?!?!

>I never said that, I said a capitalist's success ought to be the nation's success. A nation's business leaders should be celebrated, but ultimately they must only be allowed to do business within the nation, and if they attempt to subvert this and move their money elsewhere they ought to be charged as traitors.

Also you have to consider the Knowledge Economy

Since the collapse of the ussr, the main product of first world nations is Intellectual Property. The entire idea makes no sense and is implemented through patents, copyright etc.

Is there demand for intellectual property?

Supply of intellectual property?

Of course not. Capitalism breaks down here.

Note that the Soviet academic system was far superior to American.

Capitalism is can be defined succinctly as "private property and its consequences". One can very much be for capitalism and against globalism. You have fallen for the neoliberal ruse, the notion that capitalism can only exist in absence of state authority, it's a total falsehood, capitalism has often flourished under state control and rule of law and has utterly diminished in utility under neoliberal globalist "hands-off" policy.

The bankers should have been hanged for treason after the 2008 recession, instead they were bailed out, this is the difference between nationalist capitalism and globalist neoliberal capitalism.

corner stone of capitalism is private property. Just because bankers(and the catholic church gave that role to the jews) existed in feudal europe it doesnt mean it isnt the corner stone of capitalism, you dumb nigger.

>Capitalism started to die after the civil war

What the fuck is wrong with libertarians?

>By Steven Horowitz
>Yes goyim, this is the best system for you poor people, accept it and be gracious. Brb, I have party on my second Yacht the next few days

Also, this has been disproven you anti-intellectual kikitalist
tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01436597.2015.1109439

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I'm quite rich but I hate capitalism. Neither a communist though. Distributivism is the way.

>Capitalism is what killed the middle class

Yea ok Shlomo

>Distributivism
neofeudal bullshit invented by delusional cathocucks

>One can very much be for capitalism and against globalism

Thats fascism, and its primary consequence is racism.

Who said anything about that. We're talking about the current system that we live in you sperg. But keep defending the status quo because you can't cope with having any beliefs you hold challenged.

Not currently working for McDonalds, I wouldn't know.

That's not horseshoe theory.
Banks hold the accumulated capital of their members in common just like a communist state holds the accumulated capital of the workers in common. There is no functional difference between living in a communist society where The Workers own everything and the worker owns nothing, and living as a slave under international banking where the contents of your bank account are just an IOU from the bank.

Sorry, i could not hear you over the sound of Adolf fellating Bankers, while gurgling something about dem evil jewish bankers.

His ways are truly unfathomable.

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>and its primary consequence is racism
Firstly, you'll have to elaborate. Secondly, in the event of this being the case, why is this a problem?

Ok so what killed the middle class then? What has degraded society into what it is today?

>polish
>hates catholic church

Did your dad let some commie fuck ya mummy?

>corner stone of capitalism is private property.
and fuck you for trying to abolish my private property. International banking is not private property anymore so than rape is war.

Thankfully I'm not either.

>Thats fascism, and its primary consequence is racism.
Oy vey shut it down!

t. boomer

Probably the globalist kike profiteers literally stealing people's money and keeping it in offshore accounts. There is simply less money in the people's hands, and more in theirs, and this isn't going to change unless they are executed and their stolen money is returned to its rightful owners.

I don't know user. How many times do you let your Padre stick his willy up your childrens ass?

Is this some fantasy, that you project onto others? Tell us more.

Which is a product of socialism. Neo-liberalism was basically a stepping stool for the class warfare rhetoric which backfired.