Why are American cities usually ugly and sliced up by giant roads right in the middle of town...

Boerne Texas is pretty nice

Europe has had ages of history and tradition combined with lavish wealth. Good city planning and most of the beautiful architecture and so on are from an age when craftsmanship was vastly important. We rely too heavily on freeways for the transport of cargo and general transportation, instead of railways.

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watch it Hans or we will push your shit in again but I guess you get off on that

Duhh, its only me, after all. I live far far way, so that explains why the roads are randomly curvy.

Cities with adequate public transit are unironically better.

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what type of third world shithole is this? if this is what eurpoors consider good city layouts, then i'll take a hgihway cutting through the city any day

What is with you fags sucking every other cultures dick and talking shit about your own. Have some fucking pride faggot.

>How did European nations manage to avoid these terrible design choices?
Build a subway

>Good city planning
is what North America has. Beauty comes at the cost of inefficiency. Europe had to build their cities over the ruins of older cities. Not so with the new world.

american cities were planned for “efficiency” (ugliness) whereas european cities just kind of sprang up naturally

Your little country isn’t as big as one of our 57 states

Because North American cities, by and large, are designed around the car. European cities are not. Are you all retarded?

Kek

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>How did European nations manage to avoid these terrible design choices?
Being old and not having the free room to build.

Because we have more land to spare for roads, and other factors such as the possibility to move farther from the city because of cars, therefore increasing the need for more/bigger roads.

Take pride in things worthy of pride. Taking pride "just because" is what leads to manipulation, like how the "patriotards" after 9/11 were used to support a neocon war in Iraq. They were useful idiots/Little Eichmanns/whatever you want to call them.

havent been to europe have you user?

Answered your own question.

so we can get in and out of them quickly.

>Why are American cities usually ugly and sliced up by giant roads right in the middle of town?

Because free markets offer a diverse range of choices.

europe is extremely small with a small amount of people

when you have lots of people and lots of land you need a safe and fast way to get people around, called roads and cars. every big country with lots of people has them, japan has them because they're a small island with a lot of people, russia has them, china has them, we have them, canada has them

it's called being a successful country

EU is so small and little that they don't need cars you can walk everywhere, and theres so few people that there's no need for giant highways people just scooter around or bike or drive twingos

you know how japan looks all aesthetic and condensed? it's because it's small in land but the population kept growing so it didnt take long to fill in all the space on the country

Usa is so big we'd have to be china sized to fill it up, east china is just like that if not more big and sliced up except it's not ugly because it's communist and the government controls all the zoning and construction so they make it pretty

First, European cities developed when car travel didn't exist. Neat grids make car travel more predictable than worn out human/horse/cow paths. It's also because America came up when consumerism increased. The realtors, developers, and car companies wanted to create suburbia. This led to the urban sprawl. Also power lines and sewer networks are easier to build and maintain on grid patterns than some random assortment of buildings and roads.

>300k for a 300sqft apt
>better

quickly hey?

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your cities all look the same, urban growth to the horizon and identical neighbourhoods all dominated and designed for cars and roads.

so diverse

Our cities look extremely different from region to region what are you talking about?

Why did they build San Francisco there? It's on a terrible piece of land for a city. It makes no sense.

If you don't have a clue what you're talking about, it's generally best to keep your mouth shut.

Shut up nigger

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They really don't. It's pretty much the same stuff coast to coast. The same big-box stores, the same patterns of development, etc.

>Boerne, TX

Why are you obsessed with Europeans?

Because the bridge needs to reach a certain height to allow ships to pass under

America doesn't preserve history as well. Everything was built to impress outward and not really built with lasting centuries in mind, probably because all of the noney was spent on exterior aesthetic. Shame really because our cities had really nice architecture until the car came along.

>so few people
Yeah, just some 700 million

It's the entrance to a bay on the west coast of the US. It would be weird if there weren't a city there

This but the shrubbery varies, as in the local plants at a place in terms of whether they have soft grass, or hard grass, regular trees or palm trees, etc.

I personally can't stand this normal ass American shit and am losing my mind because no matter where I go (unless it's New York, but they have the same franchises there), it's the same shit.

I need to go somewhere completely different.

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Don’t ever talk to me our my city like that again

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>better

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When that nigger shot our cops

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Go to mexico

Better one

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America city design=built for mass transportation with vehicles
European city design=built on top of 1000 year existing design

American cities are much easier to navigate, but do look the same and also can get easily congested by influx of cars. European design in extremely inefficient and relies heavily on public transport but beautiful to look at because you are most definitely traveling on the same road as your ancestors

>San Fran
>better
Public and private transportation are both shit because no one in San Fran can drive or park for shit. The only good transport is the trams

>european cities are well designed

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its cool to look at from above but I bet its shit ground level. why do american cities feel like concrete prisons.

They are. They have ring roads around the old town, and they're not freeways. It's comfy and well thought out, even when everyone drives aggressive and 20kmh over the speed limit its still comfy instead of the warzone american roadways feel like.

>Cities with adequate public transit are unironically better.
Looks disgusting.

And the countryside is right at your doorstep even in the cities. Cities have their own forests, and no stupid sprawl like american cities. Just a bunch of comfy villages.

Then you have the dutch that put canals everywhere in their cities so every block on a canal almost feels like a park.

Dutch are complete shit at urban planning though. Germans are the masters at urban planning.

European cities were very large and relatively close together by the time cars became commonplace; Europe was very far ahead in terms of train transportation, they didn't need as many highways and the cities were built such that creating a highway in the middle of town wasn't feasible.

The United States cities had a lot more land and weren't so heavily developed by the time cars became very commonplace. Railroads were still pretty sparse and some huge cities like LA and Houston were relatively tiny. Because the average american needed something like a car to get around the vast expanse of area, roads started getting built everywhere, which eventually lead to large highway systems. United States cities could afford to build these highways because their cities were, for the most part, not super developed and were pretty spread out, as opposed to very centralized and dense European cities.

Our cities were denser before freeways

European cities are by no means efficiently planned. They just became really dense at a time when buildings/architecture had some artistic merit. As a result you got these really pretty but really dense city centers that could rarely be changed outside of renovations. And regardless, Europeans didn't need to rely on cars as much as Americans did because of how much closer everyone was to each other and the massive railroad systems.

>Nigger
>Posts Chicago

I assume you are a foreigner?

Productivity in mind. Roads can fit more faster than side walks. It's
>ugly
because it's all function and no form.

Europe is not small and they have way more people than the US. Their population is pretty dense and old roads had already been established to the point that it made sense for railroads to be the primary mode of transport in Europe. By the time the car became a staple of transportation Europe didn't need to shift 180 towards it.

efficiency.

The point remains though that public transit makes any place much more livable. Especially now that immigration has made EVERY urban area overcrowded, driving on congested roads with drunked illegals is a death sentence.

Just have just posted Minneapolis, Portland, or Salt Lake City. Light rail is a great asset to a city.

Right now ALL of Texas and Florida are practically unlivable due to road construction.

But nothing like Europe.

Europeans didn't have the luxury of millions of unused acres to expand into. Americans did, so we built roads to get us there. That, in turn, decreased the density of our cities. Still, East-coast cities, particularly those in the New England area, are very dense and much more similar to European cities than those in other parts of the country.

>small amount of People
>compared to US of A
American education everybody

Retarded fucking leaf.

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San Francisco is one of the more decent cities in America. It shouldn't even be considered American. I'd put it up there with more European cities like Paris or Milan.

European city blocks are a quarter as long as the average downtown block.

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In america

Are you actually an amerishart?

kek

Leafs btfo

because their cities are old as shit and many have large sections built when walking and maybe a horse if you're wealthy enough to own one was the only way to get around

these too

Those Numbers speak truth

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Sup, 214. Victory Park reporting in.

That's why it is such a good idea to move to places in the Sun Belt/Piedmont that are expanding. Their infrastructure can be better suited for a thriving urban core because they don't have to worry about displacing so many people. Charlotte and Greenville are perfect examples and they are wonderful cities.

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Here's some things to put into perspective for burgers.

Frankfurt germany is the size of 4 boulder colorados and has as many people as denver.

America DO have a lot of room even now. Montana is the same size as Germany, with 1/80th the population. That's another reason Euro cities look better - the need to rebuild in the same location. U.S. cities are simply abandoned. See Buffalo, Detroit.

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Fredericksburg is nicer

Kek piedmont is a shithole, sunbelt needs to control its growth

Trains are for whites

have you actually been to SF you fucking faggot? almost got stabbed by a homeless nigger on my work todaay I guess it really is like Paris

It’s a small town. Pretty comfy

Sf doesnt even have a subway. Amsterdam, which is below sea level, has a subway

yeah, why on earth would people build a city on a peninsula at the mouth of a huge bay that made a great harbor with a good size river draining into the bay in a time when ocean travel was in full swing?
guess we'll never know

Los Angeles actually had one of the biggest urban rail networks in the world before WWII. Even in this map from 1912, when the region had hardly any people compared to today, you can see how extensive it was. It was intentionally ripped to shreds.

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Anglos*

Hey fuck you! Portland is a great city!

Ehh just kidding it used to be untill like 10 years ago when all of California decided it wanted to live here.

Yeah. As America grows the rest of the country will look more like Europe

Yeah, exactly.

The United States is going to be in for a very rude awakening when it reaches 500 million in population without any of the public transit opportunities that Europe has. Traffic is going to be absolutely fucking abysmal.