Jow Forums's lost direction & how to fix it

>I agree though, gibs must be stopped, but (((they))) won't allow it.
Then you'll have to keep trying to change that.
West was Great once. It can become great once again.

> Using Murdoch Murdoch to promote Civic nationalism.
Reddit was a mistake. This board is now full cancer.

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Sage

>Hateful obsession with (((the Jews)))
GT FUCKING FUCK OUT RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!

NO ONE LIKES YOU

NO ONE IS LISTENING

YOU SAY THE SAME SHIT

IT DOESN"T WORK!

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> Using Murdoch Murdoch to promote Civic nationalism.
I'm not promoting civic nationalism.
I'm promoting action over useless larping/sperging threads that lead to no change in our society.

This is a good example of useless sperging. Imagine if this man was trying to convince his fellow citizens to change their voting habits instead of this retarded low IQ shit.

It’s a shill thread

>Obsession with white purity "X are not whites / Y are the only pure whites etc"

Do you know the percentage of people who comment on Jow Forums?
Well it is low.
As far am I am aware must people don't do this.
Even less so for White Nationalists. 'White' is seen as European, which includes Greeks, Russians and everyone in Europe.
Don't confuse bantz with genuine ignorance.

> Instead of trying to "red pill people on the JQ, race realism, etc"

People can never understand the world until they are allowed to notice Jewish influence.
Race Realism destroys the egalitarian lie. It is fairly important.
If anything less stuff on crime and more on identity.

>Obsession with a White ethno-state

People need a common goal and this is a fairly good one. It allows people to imagine a better world.

>race/civil wars

A good meme that makes people realize they are part of a team, whether they like it or not.
Even IF it may happen or never happen.

>Meaning you have to stop larping as fascist/Nazi/etc

The young are attracted to these because they are counter-cultural Strong Horse ideologies.
There isn't an issue here, since if we gain influence our influence would grow larger and it would draw people way from these beliefs. Same as if a movement grew out of Hungry or Poland, people would be magnetically attracted to that and have a reason to start ignoring their fascination with National Socialism or Fascism.
As for trolling online, well it is trolling....

In saying all this, your post is probably a troll post created in Bad Faith. Also SAGE because I am giving you the answer.

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>It’s a shill thread
It's thread promoting action over useless sperging/larping.
Once the West is saved you are free to sperg as much as you like - you would have done your duty to your nation/culture.

Says the newfag shill

> Hurrr don't talk about jewish power or the realities of race, it's evil Nazi stuff.
You are a civnat masquerading as a good optics goy. You are cancer.

Thinking the west will be saved votes, how new are you?

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>newfag
>trying to educate on not hating Jews and niggers
Yea you are definitely newfag retard

I agree with your points.

My point is not against those. My point is that we should act towards getting more people onto our goal.

I'll give a personal example:

During a family gathering my father was having a debate with another family member who was empathetic to (illegal) migrants.
My father was using Jow Forums-like arguments and at some points he suggested that we should just "use machine guns on every fucker that crosses our borders until they stop coming".
Now, that's fucked "BASED", right?!
Yes, it is. But also is retarded. Because it's not red-pilling the normies. It's actually blue pilling them.
This family member starting laughing after what my father said and started jokingly doing "SIG HAIL", mocking my father as a retarded extremist.

Luckily, I happened to be there, and took over and talked with him on a more serious tone about the negative effects of immigration and how all these migrants result in higher crime rates etc etc etc.
In the end, the ironically "SIG HAIL"-ing blue pilled commie voting normie ended up with a very serious face, a face that he finally understood that migration is actually harmful & securing our borders is not a issue to laugh at.He also told me that he seriously thinks of not voting for leftists again in the next elections.

I succeeded where my Jow Forums-friendly father failed.

Now, this is what I want all of you to start doing.
We all know the problems and we all agree on them, YET we need the vote of the normies.
And larping & sperging won't win them over.

I've red pilled numerous people over the last 5 years.
How many have you, Jow Forums?

Pol is a shithole without something to bring it to focus (see: 2016 elections, HWNDU trolling, IOTBW campaign). Unfortunately all the shitposts/disinfo/eceleb spam/etc makes actual intelligent discussion/investigation a rare thing compared to years ago.

You are pussy as bitch for not calling your family member for disagreeing with your father. You should have gotten into his face and shouted at him till submission. You can't even stand with your father you fag?

Greek philosophy revival?

>Thinking the west will be saved votes, how new are you?
Do you have an army to enforce your desired ideologies? Does the majority of population actually support a violent revolution?
Spoilers: Nope.
So, either accept defeat and surrender or keep using current system and try to win.

>ethno state might seem nice
Only people who think that diversity=color of your skin or gender etc believe such retarded bullshit. Literally left wing ideology, diversity in reality however is everywhere and if you put 10 white people in the same room, all the same age, gender and born in the same town even... you will come across 10 distinct individuals who all have different beliefs, ideas as well as likes and dislikes.

Fuck communism, liberals, socialists, leftists, moderates and Nazis AKA all retarded variations of the same crazy mentally ill thinking on the left.

>Greek philosophy revival?
Revival of Ancient Greek philosophy would actually be nice.

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No thanks immigrant. You either integrate to our fucking culture or hang from a tree like the subversive kike you are.

Fuck it. Let it all burn.. Hopefully the med states stay based and later can clean up the north, reconstituting the Only empire that ever meant anything.

youtube.com/watch?v=gsuSGbw1zu0

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>You either integrate to our fucking culture
This implies that your culture is dominant.
We all know that western culture is dying.

Are you doing your duty to promote said culture, mr. Confederate memeflag?
Have you brought any allies to your(our) movement?

Or are you just spamming "FUCK OFF KIKES!" in an online echo-chamber?

THIS!!!

>I believe you we can do better
I have never seen any board improve over a long term. This site is garbage. It will break your mind though so you literally become addicted.

>I'm a relative new user (aka newfag)
Yeah, it shows.

>t. Grigorios Moneywastenakis
mhhh delicious

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This board has declined a lot in quality, 2-3 years ago you could still write quiet long discussions with some interesting people you met, now there isnt the time for that anymore as the amount of bullshit threads explodes and you only rarely can have better discourse.
A lot of memesperging still happens and I guess some of that is still quality idk..
Early 8pol was awesome but that died in an esoteric hitlerist circlejerk now.

Fuck off newfag, lurk for at least a year before posting, in fact ideally never post again, go to plebbit, they might be interested in your "ideas"

>lurk for at least a year before posting
nobody does this
nobody cares if you did this

>Hopefully the med states stay based and later can clean up the north, reconstituting the Only empire that ever meant anything.
Make Rome Empire Again. feeelsgoodman.jpg

On a serious note though, I doubt South can (culturally) survive if the North is completely lost. I seriously think that the next 10 years are the last hope (for a peaceful solution) for all Europe.

>2-3 years ago you could still write quiet long discussions with some interesting people you met
No you couldn't.

newfags are the worst and cant pick up on satire.

Then what is the alternative you propose?
Full-on"""individualist""" libetarianism?

OP is just shoving his newfaggotry in anons' faces though by making abhorrent posts, if he's just going to turn up and start lecturing people who've been here for years about how the board should be because he's got some delusions about Jow Forums saving the west then he should expect a hostile reaction.

>People can never understand the world until they are allowed to notice Jewish influence.
jeez all my life I've been living under the control of Jews and only thanks to Jow Forums my eyes are finally open

>Jow Forums saving the west
ahahahaaahaha

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>people who've been here for years
Oh piss off, Jow Forums is 95% "newfags"
Not that it even matters, the entire point of anonymized posting is that any transient idiot's post is equal to the post of some hardboiled mega ED oldfag sage master versed in all memes past present & future or whatever the fuck your image of the ideal "4Channer" is.

HE could, it's you who couldn't because you've all got an agenda, why else do you think that no matter what meme flag you hide behind we know it's you?

The evidence of your subversion in our countries is copious

OP's post in summary
>Hi, newfag here
>This is what you should do
On reflection I actually think it's bait

Nobody could, because Jow Forums ALWAYS (literally ALWAYS) was a cesspit of half-baked opinions and shortform memery.

Actually they are nore ethnically Jewish than the Israeli's

observations that have been getting made for six years, so much so that half your post is already covered by the sticky.

learn to filter or ignore posts or just go back to redit

>This board has declined a lot in quality, 2-3 years ago you could still write quiet long discussions with some interesting people you met
Do you think it could go back to said quality?
I find peer pressure a quite effective tool. If people start to shun low IQ sperging threads then more and more will start having more quality/productive discussions.

White purity spiral is nothing new.

>your
>our

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There was no such "quality" on Jow Forums. Not 2-3 years ago, not ever.

Been here since 2014 when the exodus happened and you will never get it back. You are wasting your time on here expecting spergs not to sperg.

All the best.

>OP's post in summary
>>Hi, newfag here
>>This is what you should do
So?

As per usual the jew creates anti semitism without even knowing it because it is blinded by his arrogance.

If they just left this board alone they wouldn't see anywhere near the levels of Jew hate they do now.

Obviously we're never going to be fans though

Is it truly hopeless?

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2-3 years ago you wouldn't be tolerated posting here the fact you have tried to weasel your way in and are now lecturing Jow Forumsacks shows that we were always right about the Jew

You don't understand. We're being subverted constantly by raiders and shills. The mods do little to stop this.

Jow Forums is indeed way too obsessed with Jews.

I know the elite are all Ashkenazis, but using "Jew" or "Ashkenazi" as a label to point at the cause of all the bad things in the world, no matter how much truth there is in such statements, will only discredit us.

Over 200 years have gone by since the Rothschilds started gaining power in the west, and we know what they've used their power for. They have made sure that, in the west, nobody can point at them collectively without being labeled as an anti-semite and being discredited.

We gain nothing from pointing to their collective label. Instead, we should point at the individuals and their actions to make people see what we see. The Ashkenazi-redpill should be last.

>Been here since 2014 when the exodus happened
Read:
I was a /v/ regular before the whole GamerGate thing politicized my worldview. I started browsing Jow Forums in the summer of 2014 and posted a whole bunch of MOOT=KEK bullshit, enjoying the thrill of getting banned for posting my tired "FOR FREE" thread for the 35th time. For my brief while before the Jow Forumsocaust hit, everything written here seemed so fresh and insightful to me that I actually mistaken it for "thoughtful discussion".
Then I moved to 8gag, before coming crawling back on all fours as that placed imploded. Now I'm here lamenting the magical golden era that never was.

>no matter how much truth there is in such statements, will only discredit us.
obvious tards like you are part and parcel of this shithole.
whats new pussycat?

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I've been posting under a Jewflag even when it just a memeflag. I even posted with a Hebrew name for a short while. I never needed to be secretive, because nobody ever actually BANNED me for posting.
What the fuck does "tolerated" even mean on a completely anonymous and open imageboard where literally anyone can post? Do you actually believe that by repeated quoting someone and calling them mean names you have the power to expunge them from the board? PROTIP, idiot: More quotes and replies is exactly what they want.

Fun fact: Israelis were once banned on Jow Forums, at a time when they were not banned on Jow Forums. Jow Forums is literally more historically Jow Forums-ish than Jow Forums.

Try redpilling any normie, 90% of the time you will fail as soon as you mention da joos

Wanna wake the libtarded masses up?
Video editing anons required
>compile as many anti Trump (((msm))) clips as possible
>compile as many war mongering (((msm))) clips as possible
>juxtaposition how cunts like CNN immediately change their view on Trump from negative to positive whenever he bombs Syria, fucks Iran deal and Ignites tensions in Middle East over embassy move and Ignores Israel massacring Palestinians.
The normies and libtards will swing hard right once there is no denying this (((coincidence)))
>also a longer (((msm))) piece can add on ALL the pro refugee shit, to destroy the west, juxtaposed against all their war mongering in the Middle East.
Bonus points.
Stick it all together and tag on a Patrick Little for Californian Senate message.

Jee I wonder why.

>Jow Forums
>I'm new
Obviously.
>X aren't white threads
Divide and conquer tactics, learn to ignore those undermining the board.
>stop hating Jews, blacks, etc
Stop noticing 50% of violent crime and the subversion of academia, news, entertainment, and national sovereignty. It's hard to look away from reality when you've stared it in the face for so long. Jow Forums for the most part is strategically mindful but operationally active. IOTBW is not very impactful locally, but nationally has a large influence piggybacking off the media and search engine algorithms to amplify.

Why say Jew when you can get all the pros with none of the cons by saying agenda setting rootless cosmopolitan European style socialist elites?

>60 years of Gibs in my country
>multiple generations of Negro have been raised with no employment
>conservatives have fought tooth and nail against them
>can never win because the Gibs class is the largest and most reliable group of voters
We can't win this democratically, not in the USA, because our Democracy has been hijacked by foreigners. The only way to turn back the tide is to stand up and make it go back.

>I'm a newfag that browses this site for a week
>lately meaning 2 or 3 days ago I noticed something that bothers me
>Its not the jews or niggers, you're the problem user
>racewar cause I've been here for over a week I totally see the full picture guys but don't do it cuz' reasons
>Don't be proud of your heritage and pls no glorifying those ebil nazis
>We be democrats and democracy is totally not failing right now, that's why I'm so worried about fascists
Lurk more faggot. Nationalists are making a comeback right now and liberals are currently screeching in panic as thei empires crumble.
Also
>Democracy is the only way

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>stop hating Jews, blacks, etc
I never said stop "hating".
I said stop obsessing over them and try to fix the issues that are related to them.

In my OP I already mentioned that for the nigger issue for example, cutting off the gibs will solve the issue (and even more subtly but efficiently promote race realism once these retards won't be able to literally survive without any gibs & start pillaging/rioting for gibs)

Also, read this to understand what I promote.

>the subversion of academia, news, entertainment, and national sovereignty
Elaborate.

>We can't win this democratically, not in the USA, because our Democracy has been hijacked by foreigners. The only way to turn back the tide is to stand up and make it go back.
In theory, I'm not against a violent revolution. But in practice I don't think there are currently any Western nations that have a majority population that supports said revolution.
Meaning, not only you'll fail but you'll also kill any chance you(we) might ever had of succeeding.

> Ignoring the JQ when talking about party politics....
You think voting for parties that will, at best, slow the inevitable is a valuable use of your time? Politics where whites will not vote as a block whilst all others do?The sooner the inevitable comes, the sooner we have enough whites left to do anything about it.

Networking with other whites, redpilling others and leading strong and healthy family oriented lives will be what saves us when the inevitable comes. Not some half hearted party politics of appeasement and civnat cucking, that will lead us to extinction more blind than ever.

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Leave.

Your "democracy" was hijacked by moneyed interest.

I thought you said you've been posting since 2014? You shouldn't need us to show you, you already know this.

Because Jews aren't disproportionally involved in encouraging diversity, mass immigration and fanning the flames of anti-White sentiment?
Because they aren't often Zionists and Jewish supremacists that believe that Jews are more important than other peoples while simultaneously crying about White supremacists and the Nazis all the time?

Nah, people get uppity when Jews are mentioned a lot of the time because of simple social hierarchy mechanisms, virtue signalling and social conditioning. Most normies don't even really know what Jews are (nor Muslims) and don't know anything about the subject.
If they are around a crowd of people that openly criticise Jews, normies will start to play along (they will play along with anything).

If you pill them gradually, they will usually adopt the positions fairly quickly.

>t. recruiter. I've been doing this shit for years, got it down to an art form.

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...or, perhaps, it's because targeting the Jews (or any ethnic minority, for that matter) has directly led to horrific genocide in the past.

Seems feasible

> quotes have literally nothing to do with my OP.
Strawman more.

>a relative new user
lurk more you pathetic faggot jew redditfag. who the fuck are you to judge what 'direction' Jow Forums should be going

>targeting the Jews has directly led to horrific genocide in the past.
Citation needed

(((Wikipedia))), brought to you by ZOG™

Fuck off kike

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Well at least your greek we don't have many of you

>Jews genocide Greeks/Romans

>Romans avenge the Greeks/Romans and genocide Jews

OV VEYYY!

>Jews murder Christian Russians

>Christian Germans avenge Russians and murder Jews

OVVEYYYY

>Jews get thrown out of over hundred countries

I-It's the Goyims fault! Not us!

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>Jews genocide Greeks/Romans

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How many have you really awakened if they're still asleep to the jew? If we're using the cave allegory you merely pulled back the first lair they now know it's shadows on the wall but they don't know the man making the shadows nor will they be able to distinguish new shadows from reality.

You must continue beyond the point of lefty>civ nat. As murdoch murdoch layed out in his new vid right wing isn't enough, you need that 3rd position, you need fascism. And for someone to hold those ideals, they must be awake to the JQ as the kikes have made that position VERY ostracized.

Just my 2 cents, you need to wake your family member, im going to assume cousin since it's awkward phrasing to me, to further topics. I suggest race realism after you get them on board with civ nat positions as it is alt light level, so crime stats, birth rates, iq levels, rape stats(lead into islam maybe here), coal tolls, etc etc

Then from there into ((media)) which can bridge that gap from alt lite to alt right have them start questioning the role of white men, not super hero movies more normal joes in modern tv, after they're fully on board with all of the above you can start bantz push their comfort zone slowly, like stretching a muscle. keep pressing that until they can start making jew jokes, then subtly this is all a fucking tight rope act, subtly start dropping very small facts in with your jew jokes, you gotta lead them into being curious enough to dig, make it all seem like you're just now doing the digging, only a step or 2 ahead of them.

After they're aware of the current jew problem, start with questioning the holocaust. "In the largest war in mankind, after industrialization, why would the nazis want to keep low tier slave labor alive, was cloth, food and water not more important?" Gradually lead them into questioning everything about the holocaust and then, and only then start dropping the end game red pill that it never happened and all the shit that entails

Yup. And this man avenged them.
It made Emperor Hadrian BEST emperor.
Almost a full shoah, 58/60.

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Lurk more.

>How many have you really awakened if they're still asleep to the jew? If we're using the cave allegory you merely pulled back the first lair they now know it's shadows on the wall but they don't know the man making the shadows nor will they be able to distinguish new shadows from reality.
> I suggest race realism after you get them on board with civ nat positions as it is alt light level, so crime stats, birth rates, iq levels, rape stats(lead into islam maybe here), coal tolls, etc etc
I red pill normies based on how ready to get red pilled I perceive them to be.
In some I've dropped pretty much all red pills, in others I stick to the most basics (communism, race realism).

In the end, it does not really matter that much that they take all the red pills. All we need is for them to change their voting habits. If this happens, we win, no matter how red pilled they are.

As I once told my father who was curiously asking why "WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS?! (referring to the anti-white / pro-mass migration policies the EU elites push)", my answer was "In the end, it doesn't really matter. All it matters is that we win and they lose."

Let me shake your hand user!

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The sticky needs to be enforced one of you neet needs to become a jannie or mod

You must be new man, I see no way we win this without blood, the jews have too much power. Keep pushing the window though it'll at least get them in line when shtf. Well that's as an American too though, I do not know the situation in Greece. You're our bedrock and your also right at the gates. Keep true to the old ways and lean on them in the coming darkness. Stay strong Greece and hold the line.