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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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reason.com/archives/1990/05/01/soviet-suicide-plan
truthjusticejoshway.wordpress.com/2013/11/30/the-turning-point-by-shmelev-popov/
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/
gommies.gom/ohfugme/
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/
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Capitalist State
The state–the police, army, courts, bureaucracy and similar institutions–is set up and controlled by this capitalist class. These big businessmen–the bourgeoisie, or monopoly capitalists–consistently use the police, army, national guard, courts and bureaucracies to break workers’ strikes and generally to put down the rebellions of the poor who own little or no means of production. The police, army and national guard are never called out against the class of bankers and corporation executives.

In short, this state is a bourgeois dictatorship. This does not mean there is a dictatorship in this country of one or several men. It does mean there is a class dictatorship, where a tiny handful of profit-makers rules society and uses the state as their machine to suppress the working people.

Most people do not think of our country as a dictatorship because the relationship of different classes is usually concealed. The monopoly capitalists do not openly admit their rule. Instead they claim that this is a democracy where “everyone shares power and takes part in running the government.”

The ruling class goes to great lengths to cover up their dictatorship under the mask of democracy, for it is extremely difficult for a minority of exploiters to rule by force alone. Only at the time of full-blown crisis, when it can stay in power in no other way, does the monopoly capitalist class rule by open, terroristic dictatorship, or fascism.

Every instance of communism has worked.

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A WORGING SPÖRÖ SHULSD OWN ALL DE ES :-D

In fact, the bourgeoisie is no more willing to “share” power with the majority of people than it is to share the ownership of the means of production and the wealth that comes from this. For them to function as a capitalist class, they must exploit the working class; and to exploit the workers, who constantly resist this exploitation and oppression, they must use the state to suppress the workers.

Of course the ruling class has been forced to grant the workers some democratic rights such as the right to vote, free speech, free press, etc. But these freedoms, like everything else in capitalist society, have their class content: they mean one thing to the ruling class and quite another for the workers. For the capitalists, freedom of the press and free speech, as examples, mean the right to fill the air-waves and daily newspapers with their propaganda and lies and to use them freely to debate with each other. For the capitalists, elections are a way to settle differences among themselves, while making it look like everybody has equal say.

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final red pill, the goal of communism was mass starvation

No-one starved because of communism, whereas many in the first world go hungry and in the third world starve because of capitalism.

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>I was only 19 years old.
>I loved Žižek so much, I had all the books and films.
>I pray to Žižek every night, thanking him for the knowledge he's given me. “Žižek is love” I say, “Žižek is life."
>My dad is Jordan Peterson. He hears me and calls me a cultural marxist. I knew he was just jealous of my devotion to Žižek.
>I called him a pseudo-intellectual.
>He hits me and sends me to sleep.
>I'm crying now and my face hurts.
>I lay in bed, really cold. I feel something warm...
>It's Žižek! I was so happy.
>He whispers in my ear an obscene joke.
>As I laugh he grabs me with his slavic hands, and puts me on his lap. I'm ready.
>I am all ears for Žižek.
>He penetrates my mind and expands my view on the current predicament.
>It hurts so much, but I do it for Žižek. I can feel my neoliberal illusions shattering and my eyes starting to water as i am picturing future authoritarian regimes in the west.
>I want to revitalize the left.
>He sniffs a mighty sniff as he fills my young mind with his wisdom.
>My dad walks in.
>Žižek looks him straight in the eye and says,
>"We are approaching a catastrophe."
>Žižek crushes him in a debate and leaves through my window.
>Žižek is love. Žižek is life.

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GTFO

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During the century measured, more people died as a result of communism than from homicide (58 million) and genocide (30 million) put together. ... Curiously, all of the world's worst famines during the 20th century were in communist countries: China (twice!), the Soviet Union, and North Korea. Communism is a killer.

reason.com/archives/1990/05/01/soviet-suicide-plan

>Shmelev and Popov's description of the Soviet economy exposes mainstream Western assessments as little more than fairy tales. They devote a chapter of their book to the falsification and distortion of statistical data in the Soviet Union, which they contend still occurs today. The revelation that ""for three decades, from the end of the 1920s through the end of the 1950s, statistical distortions were so great that even the ordinal numbers were altered,"" implies that even assessments by conservative Western experts skeptical of Soviet success, such as the late G. Warren Nutter, give an optimistic rendition of Soviet economic performance."

truthjusticejoshway.wordpress.com/2013/11/30/the-turning-point-by-shmelev-popov/

>It was estimated 3-4 million people starved to death in 1933 during the Soviet Union’s “industrialization” phase.

>Per capita USSR national income was about 50% of the American level while average per capital consumption of goods and services was estimated at 30-40% of the American level.

>The World Health Organization concluded the average national child mortality level was about twice as high as the United States.

>102 cities with a combined population of 50 million people contained air pollution 10 times beyond the permissible norm.

The Black Book of communism is largely bollocks. It basically counts anyone who dies under communism as a victim. If you did with that capitalism you'd probably come out with a figure over 1 billion. In any case, there's nothing functionally wrong with communism's mode of production, the deaths under stalin, mao and pol pott highlight how bad non-democratic regimes are, rather than any problem with worker owned production or central planning.

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of
revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis

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Ah yes, an unsourced blog, very scientific.

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>central planning
central planning is retarded. prices convey information about scarce resources, collecting and aggregating the knowledge and desires of millions of professionals and consumers, but you think a few bureocrats can do better than that. central planning causes misery and starvation. central planning kills

it's a book by two soviet economist, moron
the blogs quote from it

I didnt know disease and natural disasters are a result of capitalism

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>future of communism
>computers
>electricity
Choose only one

what the fuck are this threads even for?
are you creating them for the sole purpose of posting anti-communist OC memes?

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socialism is way better then commies or capitalism but socialism needs to be tied to blood otherwise it would cuck out. Bernie would have shipped in millions and gave them healthcare which we cannot do. Capitalism is cuck to bankers, while communism is just dumb because a taxi driver makes more then a doctor so no one is motivated. Socialism removes stealing from the people by bankers while providing motivation to learn skill to get paid more.