Why is Jow Forums so clueless as to what Hitler actually wanted?

You may see Robert Lewandowski and Zdeno Chára as ideal physical specimens of the European man, and Maria Sharapova a specimen of the European woman.

You may see the works of Tolstoy, Dostdoyevsky, Chopin and Dvořák as examples of European excellence in art and culture, while Prague and St. Petersburg exemplify the excellence of European civilisation.

But guess what? Hitler hated all of this. He wanted to exterminate and destroy the entire lot.

So why do you remain so ignorant?

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Nobody will ever know what Hitler really wanted at this point since he's been built up as this Satanic boogeyman to justify the post-War order

You are a jew.

Sub-human is above animal :^)
It sounds bad in English but is more close to 2nd class citizens (of humanity).
So not 'extermination'.

Shame he didn't write a book, outlying his beliefs. If he had, we'd know for sure.

Why don't you post some quotes that justify your point

just one

how rude

>St. Petersburg exemplify the excellence of European civilisation.

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"Not only in Austria, however, but also in the Reich, these so-called national circles were, and still are, under the influence of similar erroneous ideas. Unfortunately, a policy towards Poland, whereby the East was to be Germanized, was demanded by many and was based on the same false reasoning. Here again it was believed that the Polish people could be Germanized by being compelled to use the German language. The result would have been fatal. A people of foreign race would have had to use the German language to express modes of thought that were foreign to the German, thus compromising by its own inferiority the dignity and nobility of our nation."

>Hitler hated slavs
Nope, he hated communism. His chief eugenicist was married to a slav. Stop kike posting.

>since he's been built up as this Satanic boogeyman to justify the post-War order

it was his purpose all along. that's why IG farben funded him

"When one contemplates this primitive world, one is convinced that nothing will drag it out of its indolence unless one compels the people to work. The Slavs are a mass of born slaves, who feel the need of a master."

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Where in that does it say all Poles should be dead?
He's saying language is at the core of nationality. And certain nations are above others, nothing out of the ordinary for a Nationalist.

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>Hitler didn't hate slavs, he hated communists

so why did he ally with communist to exterminate ~70% of slavs between Germany and communists lands??

something doesn't add up here shlomo

>unfortunately many demanded the Germanisation of Poles based on the same false reasoning
What false reasoning?
>Polish people could be Germanised by being compelled to speak and write German
Why wouldn't it work?
>A people of foreign race would have had to use German to express modes of thought thst were foreign to the German, thus compromising by its own inferiority the dignity and mobility of our nation
So it wouldn't work, because they're inferior.
Should we exterminate them then?
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How convenient.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost

the plan was to remove 80% of Poles and Germanize the rest, and colonize our lands.

He was saying the process of Germanisation, that would be successful with Norwegians and Swedes, would not with Poles because of their racial make-up.

Thus why he expelled and deported many Poles from Poland, in order to make way for German settlers.

He's basically saying that forcing the Polish to speak German would eventually cause the Polish to gain influence over the German language. Assimilation goes both ways and he was extremely nationalist.

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He Allied with Russia to take back Prussia.

'Almost all of Germany's territorial losses, specified in the Treaty of Versailles, were areas that had been part of Prussia: Eupen and Malmedy to Belgium; North Schleswig to Denmark; the Memel Territory to Lithuania; the Hultschin area to Czechoslovakia. Many of the areas which Prussia had annexed in the partitions of Poland,'

It's a quote taken from Mein Kampf

'such as the Provinces of Posen and West Prussia, as well as eastern Upper Silesia, went to the Second Polish Republic. Danzig became the Free City of Danzig under the administration of the League of Nations. Also, the Saargebiet was created mainly from formerly Prussian territories. East Prussia became an exclave, only reachable by ship (the Sea Service East Prussia) or by a railway through the Polish corridor.'

Probably true.
The Allies could have probably rekt Hitler's Germany before Christmas too, since we were reading every coded message they sent from 1940 or so. But 'our' objective was attrition, not victory.

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Nice edit faggot

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_Stefanie_Rabatsch

it was the first incel rebellion
that is why this board really likes him

>He wanted to exterminate and destroy the entire lot.
Nah. The Nazis had nothing against Slavs, only against Bolsheviks, no matter what race.

Source:
Der Untermensch
Die Schutzstaffel als antibolschewistische Kampforganisation

It's like taking Trump's pussygrab quote and using it as proof that he wants to exterminate all women.
It's not even a correlation.
Other anons mention Generalplan Ost, and you bring a non sequitur.
So the question remains: can you produce a quote from Hitler himself where he says he wanted to exterminate the Slav?

this one's a poor example to use as the huge drop wasn't reported until 1949 at 11,266,600.

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Pic related, Poles and Czechs are explicitely named as Aryan. Aryan = All pure Europeans with no gypsy/Indian/nigger/jew etc. ancestry.

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he had Prussia already... Unless you mean take back Polish lands partitioned 150 years earlier, after we regained our independence.

anyway, he didn't give a shit about communism, white people, aryans, jews or anything, he just cared about territorial gains, and power. And people who were funding him just wanted to fuck over white people

Spot the commie.

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This

spot the retard who claims Hitler was not against slavs but bolsheviks, after Hitler allied with bolsheviks to invade non-communist slavs who beat up soviets 20 years ago.

Book example of 0IQ retard

>doesn't even deny it
Opinion discarded :)

Fascists who support Shitler are retards
Italian fascism is the only acceptable variant of fascism

No, it's pretty basic logic.

> Hitler had plan to expand borders of Germany to create a giant German-speaking superstate
> Hitler thought that some peoples, such as the Swedes could be successfully Germanised, while Slavs could not
> Greater Germany would, as defined by Generalplan Ost, would include the entirety of Russia, Czechia and Poland
> Upon taking Poland, ethnic Poles were deported, to make room for German families to settle

Yet here you claim Hitler had no intention to exterminate the Slavs.

So tell me, how does Hitler get his Lebensraum, without Germanising Poles which he though impossible, nor deporting them (which he did as soon as he could)?

> It's like taking Trump's pussygrab quote and using it as proof that he wants to exterminate all women.

No, it would be like taking his quote as evidence that he grabs pussies.

That is somewhat true. Slavs are very complacent people. They may feel discomfort but it does not compel them to think and work for change. They strive the most under high pressure and since pressure is not constantly high, they easily become lazy and degenerate. Something happened before they settled in Europe.

>Stalin is getting too strong, and Bolshevism will sweep over Europe
heh

Hitler was an instrument of the Rothschilds to create Israel and further the Jewish agenda.

>Stalin
>Bolshevism
At that point it was in name only

Let’s say you have ants in your house, Millions of them.
Now do you A: Kill them all and take back your house or B: Abandon your house and cry like some faggot cuck.

>it's the "Hitler wanted to wipe out the slavs" meme

>The German made himself detested everywhere in the world, because wherever he showed himself he began to play the teacher. It's not a good method of conquest. Every people has its customs, to which it clings, and nobody wants lessons from us. The sense of duty, as we understand it, is not known amongst the Russians. Why should we try to inculcate this notion into them?
>The German colonist ought to live on beautiful, spacious farms. The German services will be lodged in marvellous buildings, the governors in palaces. Beneath the shelter of the administrative services, we shall gradually organise all that is indispensable to the maintenance of a certain standard of living. Around the city, to a depth of thirty to forty kilometres, we shall have a belt of handsome villages connected by the best roads. What exists beyond that will be another world, in which we mean to let the Russians live as they wish. It is merely necessary that we should rule them. In the event of a revolution, we shall only have to drop a few bombs on their cities, and the affair will be liquidated. Once a year we shall lead a troop of Kirghizes through the capital of the Reich, in order to strike their imaginations with the size of our monuments. What India was for England, the eastern territories will be for us.
>t. Hitler

'The Western democracy of today is the forerunner of Marxism which without it would not be thinkable. It provides this world plague with the culture in which its germs can spread. In its most extreme form, parliamentarianism created a 'monstrosity of excrement and fire,' in which, however, sad to say, the 'fire' seems to me at the moment to be burned out.'

It's just cognitive dissonance for people who want to believe Hitler had a contemporary view on race where Poles, Germans, Russians etc are all the same.

You don't need to look further than how Germans treated Norwegians under occupation compared to Poles to see that there was strong racial animosity towards Poles.

I don't even know how someone can begin to think a country that lost 20% of it's population in WWII somehow were not seen as enemies by Hitler and the German people.

Keep telling yourself that. The propaganda is so strong this whole website will be gone within three years.

>yet here you claim
I haven't claimed anything other than the fact that your quote has nothing to do with extermination.
Stop strawmanning.

Hitler was a politician, and like all politicians, he wanted power. nothing else

'Indeed, has this mob ever understood an idea before success proclaimed its greatness?

Isn't every deed of genius in this world a visible protest of genius against the inertia of the mass?

And what should the statesman do, who does not succeed in gaining the favor of this mob for his plans by flattery?

Should he buy it?

Or, in view of the stupidity of his fellow citizens, should he renounce the execution of the tasks which he has recognized to be vital necessities? Should he resign or should he remain at his post?'

So why do you remain so ignorant?

care to answer your own question Rabbi ?

'In such a case, doesn't a man of true character find himself in a hopeless conflict between knowledge and decency, or rather honest conviction?

Where is the dividing line between his duty toward the general public and his duty toward his personal honor?

Mustn't every true leader refuse to be thus degraded to the level of a political gangster?

And, conversely, mustn't every gangster feel that he is cut out for politics, since it is never he, but some intangible mob, which has to bear the ultimate responsibility?'

Why did Hitler deport the Poles from Poland?

Why did the USA send Japanese into 'internment' camps?

"As for the ridiculous hundred million Slavs, we will mould the best of them as we see fit, and we will isolate the rest of them in their own pig-styes; and anyone who talks about cherishing the local inhabitants and civilising them, goes straight off into a concentration camp!"

- Hitler

>Hitler thought that some peoples could be successfully Germanised, while Slavs could not
That was not his position.
Hitler on being able to germanise slavs:
>It is not possible to generalize on the extent to which the Slav races are susceptible to the Germanic imprint. In point of fact, Tsarist Russia, within the framework of her pan-Slav policy, propagated the qualification Slav and imposed it on a large diversity of people, who had no connection with the Slavonic race. For example, to label the Bulgarians as Slavs is pure nonsense; originally they were Turkomans. The same applies to the Czechs. It is enough for a Czech to grow a mustache for anyone to see, from the way the thing droops, that his origin is Mongolian. Among the so-called Slavs of the South the Dinaric race is predominant. Turning to the Croats, I must say I think it is highly desirable, from the racial point of view, that they should be Germanised. There are, however, political reasons which completely preclude any such measures.
>There is one Cardinal principle. This question of the Germanisation of certain peoples must not be examined in the light of abstract ideas and theory. We must examine each particular case to make sure whether the offspring of any race will mingle well with the German population and will improve it, or whether, on the contrary (as is the case when Jew blood is mixed with German blood), negative results will arise.

>Generalplan Ost
literal meme

Because they were fighting a war with Japan. If Hitler hadn't hated the Poles and wanted their territory, he would have allied with them.

>be German
>deny war crimes
Japanese people really are honorary Aryans

>Because they were fighting a war with Japan
There you go, Germany was fighting a war with Poland.

>he would have allied with them.
They weren't going to give him back all the Prussian land, were they?

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>They weren't going to give him back all the Prussian land, were they?

Hitler wanted Polish land.

He didn't think the majority of Poles could be Germanised.

Where does that leave us?

Nowhere in this does he say he wants to exterminate them.
This is because he did not want to kill or, excluding a few areas, deport them.

He did

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Still doesn't say he wants to kill them all.

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'Almost all of Germany's territorial losses, specified in the Treaty of Versailles, were areas that had been part of Prussia: Eupen and Malmedy to Belgium; North Schleswig to Denmark; the Memel Territory to Lithuania; the Hultschin area to Czechoslovakia. Many of the areas which Prussia had annexed in the partitions of Poland, such as the Provinces of Posen and West Prussia, as well as eastern Upper Silesia, went to the Second Polish Republic. Danzig became the Free City of Danzig under the administration of the League of Nations. Also, the Saargebiet was created mainly from formerly Prussian territories. East Prussia became an exclave, only reachable by ship (the Sea Service East Prussia) or by a railway through the Polish corridor.'

most of them

Why did he side with the Soviet Union then to invade Poland 4 years later?

>be German
>deny war crimes
There were plenty of war crimes in the second world war. That does in no way change the facts of Hitlers plans for the future of the eastern territories.
>Japanese people really are honorary Aryans
They are.

It doesn't even say he wants to kill one. He says he wants to civilise them as much as one can and let them live in their own backwaters.
Are you perchance, illiterate?

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maybe dog we aren't build you house on a fucking antnest....

if you keep pretendin we are bugs to be removed, we don't give a fuck about your white civilization. You are dying out anyway, we will just exploit your wealthy declining economies, and treat you like untermensch when you need help

>maybe don't build your house*

the fuck happened there??

Because Poland would not see reason in regards to Danzig.

To placate them, and to keep them away from Germany proper.
Also if you read that wiki, the Poles stopped playing ball, and if you read beyond the (((carefully selected))) information on Wikipedia, you'll find that Poles were exterminating ethnic Germans in the corridor.

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>muh Danzig massacre
Didn't fucking happen you tard.

we don't give a shit this faggot wanted our lands back. It's no reason to genocide, and if it is for you than fuck you, we have a war

Hitler didn't hate slavs, that's propaganda.

This thread is about Slavs, not jews. He did not (except in a few areas) want to expel them.

Why do you have such a victim complex? Genocide costs money; Hitler wanted Prussia, not Polish bodies.

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And we wanted our lands back. Hitler did not even demand that Poland give back all of what it had taken after ww1, just the german parts.

'reason'

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>ally with communists
wut, polish people truly are retarded, it was a temporary alliance to keep stalin from invading long enough to attack

so he only cared about german territorial claims, he didn't give a shit about bolsheviks or white race at all, just used it for populist reasons to gain influence.

Danzig wasn't Polish at the time, and they didn't even give a shit about Danzig.

>A revised and less favorable proposal came in the form of an ultimatum delivered by the Nazis in late August, after the orders had already been given to attack Poland on September 1, 1939. Nevertheless, at midnight on August 29, Joachim von Ribbentrop handed British Ambassador Sir Neville Henderson a list of terms that would allegedly ensure peace in regard to Poland. Danzig was to return to Germany and there was to be a plebiscite in the Polish Corridor; Poles who had been born or had settled there since 1919 would have no vote, while all Germans born but not living there would. An exchange of minority populations between the two countries was proposed. If Poland accepted these terms, Germany would agree to the British offer of an international guarantee, which would include the Soviet Union.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Corridor

Source?

Neo-Nazi "revisionist" bullshit duh

>Danzig repeatedly votes to return to Germany
>Poland repeatedly blocks them from doing so
>Germany finally demands freedom for Danzig
>Poland continues to refuse
The reasonable thing would have been to let Danzig do what it's people wanted and not cause a war over it.

Are you retarded? A man can want more than one thing at a time.
You must be retarded. Would be useless to keep talking to you.

'As a dog that returneth to his vomit, so is the fool that repeateth his folly.'
- Proverbs 26:11

Why do wehraboos and naziboos STILL deny the fact that shitler wanted to exterminate most of the slavs, if you support Hitler and his ideas shouldn't you also support his opinions on slavs? Atleast the ones that admit it aren't as detestable as the ones that are ignorant or deceiving.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler's_Table_Talk

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>Do they hate us because we tried to exterminate most Europeans?
>No they are obviously Jews or brainwashed by Jews.

>Almost all of Germany's territorial losses, specified in the Treaty of Versailles, were areas that had been part of Prussia:...the Hultschin area to Czechoslovakia.

*like*

You obviously not read the signatures of the anticomintern pact.

Look sir, I know this is difficult for you to understand, but we are doing cost/benefit analysis here. We assess having to find new heros, or promote new creative minds at the cost of others. In opposition to the idea of different people being composers or athletes, we consider the prospect of a Europe that has not been blighter and destroyed by millions upon millions of people from sub-human cultures that have destroyed the entirety of Europe for AVERAGE CITIZENS. You can have one or two composers, I'll take several million less rapes in the UK alone.

>Hitler wanted to exterminate people like the slavs
Show me one piece of evidence of Generalplan Ost cause it seems it's an allied myth

>so he only cared about german territorial claims, he didn't give a shit about bolsheviks or white race at all, just used it for populist reasons to gain influence.
He cared about both undoing the dictate of Versailles and fighting Bolshevism. Those things are not mutually exclusive.

>A revised and less favorable proposal came in the form of an ultimatum delivered by the Nazis in late August, after the orders had already been given to attack Poland on September 1, 1939. Nevertheless, at midnight on August 29, Joachim von Ribbentrop handed British Ambassador Sir Neville Henderson a list of terms that would allegedly ensure peace in regard to Poland. Danzig was to return to Germany and there was to be a plebiscite in the Polish Corridor; Poles who had been born or had settled there since 1919 would have no vote, while all Germans born but not living there would. An exchange of minority populations between the two countries was proposed. If Poland accepted these terms, Germany would agree to the British offer of an international guarantee, which would include the Soviet Union.
Those are perfectly reasonable terms, and his original proposal, which Poland declined, didn't even include the Corridor plebiscite, so it was even more favorable towards Poland.

Hitler wanted partitioned Poland with germanized Poles and it included extermination of 80% of our populations as germanization itself failed for 123 years after partitions.

i can't wait untill turks start demanging their land in Germany back after you allowed them settlement

also they wanted corridor, while it was mostly populated by Poles so it was;t German clay at all, just partitioned for some time

and it proves, fighting soviets was not a main goal, territorial gains were. If his main goal was to defeat jewish soviets, he never would have helped them gain anything, while he did

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