Da scam of da century

Did you not FUCKING READ THE ACCOUNTANT STORY??

Stop cherry picking

Plus, env science isn't some "meme" degree. I wonder how you would do in it.

>took until 26 to graduate in fucking accounting
>only one internship in that time
yup, tard status confirmed. P.S. telling anectodtes about your retarded friends is a prime example of cherry picking, which you would know if you weren’t tard.

lmao yes it is
>b-b-but orgo!!!
art class for dorks.

that's the most uninformed and retarded thing anyone can say

college is for retards

>scam
No one told you it will be success all the way. College is just trad school for professions that ask you to read manuals. Science and stuff is a whole different.

Maybe you should have started working earlier, like 2nd year of uni

What exactly is your major?

1. And again with the cherry picking. I said at LEAST one internship but I'm pretty sure it was more than one

2. They had a HIGH AS FUCK GPA EVEN WITH ENGINEERING CLASSES. They are WAY smarter than YOU.

3. They graduated late because they switched majors you retard.

Lol you thinking you can compete with them is hilarious. What is your major and what was your gpa?

>inb4 lie to save fave

You are the dumbass for... you know what?

Read this pic

What's your major and gpa?

Env science = had to take organic chemistry = how the FUCK is that "art"?

>What is your major and what was your gpa
Physics/Math, 3.8, but I know you won’t believe me. Assuming he started at 18 that means it took him 8 fucking years to graduate - he could’ve finished an engineering and accounting major separately at that pace. Actually quicker since neither of those requires 4 years in the first place unless you’re retarded.

Dude dude dude. Listen. Bio, environmental science, psychology are soft fields. They are like the gender studies of stem. Do some hardcore engineering stuff like a man - Mechanical, Civil, Chemical, Aeronautical, Computers, IT, etc. Trust me. If you go through that then your life is basically set.

This is only if you're interested in STEM though. Idk much about law and accounting.

>env science is not meme
Just how much environmentalists do you think buisness need? Same with accounts, sorry, it is 2018, unless you are multistate hundred emploees company you need 1 at most, automatization tools and streamlined taxes did murder it.

>read this retarded piece of text that says we should limit individual freedoms that'll surely make me win this argument

Fuck off you kike, I fly planes and maintain them, all that was needed was a high school diploma. Job shortage so I make fuckhuge amounts of money.
How dare you step on my freedom to do whatever the fuck I please.

Check out Ted Kaczynski. He has written extensively about this.

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You're a defeatist and should remove yourself from the gene pool.

>be high school dropout because dude weed
>go back to high school after 2 years, finish it
>go to national university to study applied informatics
>fail after 1 semester because the math is hard/im too lazy
>work temp jobs for a year
>go to private college for weekend classes, 100$ per month, computer science
>teach myself how to program from youtube tutorials
>classes are easy, they let you pass because they want your $$$
>on my second year get recruited before coming to class, some smart guy was collecting people numbers to get refeerals
>he call the next day and tell me to send him his cv
>get hired by international corporation as a code monkey
>800$ per month, multisport card and private health insurance
>ff 1.5 year
>finish college, get internationally recognizable engineering degree
>im earning 1400$ now doing code monkey stuff and getting like 10 offers on my LinkedIn per month, some as high as 2k$/month
>i am able to afford apartment near the centre of 800k city (10 mins to work commute), a good car, 2 motorcycles, good clothes, newest consumer electronics, 2 weeks abroad holidays in summer and winter
and still got something to save

Damn life is good. Everything given to me on a silver platter.

*she
Also, pretty sure their majors are more applicable than general physics/math.

Have you graduated? What's your job?

You know, I was 2.5 yrs done with a bachelors before doing the electrical trade. I had this one teacher from ucla who graduated in straight up math. 4.0 AND graduated in 3 yrs. He was underemployed working jobs like security gaurd, etc. Got fired a lot. Couldn't find a career job other than teaching... at least he found something but his major wasn't very applicable.

You also LOVE to downplay accomplishments. 3.9 in accounting isn't fucking easy. Probably only a low ass percent of people ever get it that high.

Nice critical thinking toothpaste, keep defending the system.

It is still a retarded opinion as most people are basically forced into college do to the structure of the job market.

>Also, pretty sure their majors are more applicable than general physics/math.
why?

>Basically 80 hrs a week
Even worse if you stay in STEM academia. You get a salary that is pretty shit even if you're were only working 39 hours a week, but if you don't work 70+ hours a week you're considered extremely lazy and will lose your position. I stopped at masters level when I saw this, but I know some who continued and now have PhDs. They earn less than minimum wage if you consider it by hour. The worst part is most of them are somehow ok with this.

Wtf man kek. Sounds good.
The pay is kind of low BUT I am assuming it evens out based on where you live?

I'm not even part of the system. I'm working on getting an off-grid home in the most rural parts of the US. The system can go to shit for all I care, I'm set. I will prevail while you point to your oligarchs and ask for more of your freedom to be limited. You're scum.

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>fucking psych is more employable then math
terminal brainletism.
>more anecdotes
I don’t really care
>wahhhh you’re downplaying
accounting isn’t hard.

I don't see how it can transition into the job market. Maybe tell me what job you have?

>accounting isn't hard

Have you ever taken an accounting class?

Exactly. With that pay i probably wouldnt be able to afford 1 room apartment in US.

nope. haven’t taken a gender studies class either

>this brainlet actually equated gender studies to accounting

You would probably bomb intro accounting classes lol.

I’m sure there’s lots of very tricky concepts like multiplication or even division involved

Lol.... the math IS easy. I know because I took 2 accounting classes before (managerial amd finance).

The math IS INDEED EASY.

That's NOT what makes accounting hard you brainlet. It's actually trying to follow the abstract concepts. Some of it just doesn't even make sense.

YOU try taking ONE accounting class instead of speaking out of your ass.

sum finna 4 inna 5 shieeet mayn das booshi how u gon do dat fuck dis wypepo math mayn only numba i need 420 nam sayin *sucks teeth*

How the fuck can you be me?

>accounting is hard
>because of abstract concepts
Hahahahahahahahaha. Okay, okay, you got me. Good b8

i sell car insurance and have a 2 year IT degree. all of these degrees are going to translate into some research assoc./analyst type job until you prove yourself as useful.

HAHAHA
>never took accounting
>thinks it's easy yet doesn't have the balls to take at least one intro level class

You are an idiot simply trying to save face

Both are closely working with cs, and not just using it. Physics can go engineering too, sure, it will be rather rough transaction, but still possible.

>I make any where from $5000.00 to $6000.00 a month, after taxes, and I never went to College.
>I drive big rigs for an international parcel delivery company.
>I know the feeling of having a great job handed to you on a silver platter.

>It's low stress and piss easy (after about 6 months of driving experience). >The only hard part about my job are the hours.
>One week I'll start at 2100 to around 0600-0800. Next week it's 1300 to 0200 and anywhere in between.
> I just drive trailers locally from the Bay Area to Central and Northern California. >Some days I just stay in the hub and move trailers around.

I lucked out hard with this job.

i don't have the time to waste on accounting because i'm busy with important things. take a real analysis class and tell me if accounting is still too "abstract" for you, you literal retard

You americans have elaborate system of slavery, i will give you that. I finished uni and 0 debt. Sure, we are socialistic shithole with average $5/hour payment, but I can still afford house/car etc

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>falling for the college meme
>not going for the trade craft,starting from the bottom until you're an owner
it's like you want to be slave

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Yeah but you live in the island monkey state of the Philippines lmao

>I can still afford house/car etc
wtf I love socialism now.

Dumbass.

Then don't say acct is easy if you have no fucking clue how the class is in the first place.

I bet your body really appreciates it. The maintenance on those trucks isn't cheap either

Good goy, the next generation doesnt need white leaders, engineers, or politician's. Thats what black wxmyn are for

accounting is easy you sad little brainlet.

>(You)

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Can't you read?

*I* went the electrical route.

Pathetic. That's your argument? You would fail it.

Any girl who goes to college, and does NOT graduate with a degree in Education is mentally ill.

With a degree in Education that you can get at any public university for under $60,000:

- you can get a full-time job working for any town/city in America as an Elementary School teacher at age 23

- you never have to work nights or weekends in your life

- you get 10 weeks off every Summer, every snow day off, all Holidays off

- you don't need any further training

- you will NEVER have your job outsourced to China or replaced by a robot

- you NEVER have to worry about meeting sales projections or quarterly sales numbers

- you don't need to move to a certain part of the country (such as aerospace jobs) there are elementary schools in every town in the country, if you ever relocate - it's easy to get a new job

- you can retire at age 55 with a State/City Pension, Government Health benefits

- you are home every day by 4:30pm

- you have Union Protection, almost impossible to fire a public school teacher

if your retard friends can handle it anyone can desu

Maybe you all should get non nigger tier tri color flags then.

>trying to downplay to make themselves feel betyer

Whatever helps you sleep at night

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you're the one so bootyblasted by your inability to handle college that you made an entire thread about it dude

Financially, college still seems to be worth it. People with bachelors degrees earn way more in their lifetimes; even if it’s in a meme subject, but moreso if it’s something useful. If you don’t care about making money then I guess find something else to do.

They are not abstract, it is just a load of weird things that make no sense and even more rules.

A big system with lots of enters and exits, pipes and vaults, you have to make sure every bit that comes in goes out of right exit at the right time, while fat retards push fingers in and scream at you.

>the next generation doesnt need white leaders, engineers, or politician's
>implying those will have any kind of power if shit goes down
>implying a college cuck can survive on his own innawoods
I pity you,trying to paint your future all happy
but shit ain't gonna be rosy

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You are the fucking retard that thought acct was just "tricky concepts like multiplication or even division.."

You are one ignorant fuck, you know that?

Actually take a class this summer in the evening or some shit so you can stop being ignorant.

Not really. A college grad makes about 1.9 mil in a lifetime.

1.9mil / 45 = $42,222

45 because that's the avg amount of yrs in the workforce

$42,222 a yr ÷ 2080 = $20.23

2080 because that's the typical amount of hrs worked per yr on avg

It's doable, but nothing crazy.

Again, this is simply for the majority. Obviously engineers, etc. make way more.

And obviously it's better than just having some highschool degree but damn does this market suck.

you're right, that was unfair of me. there's probably some exponentials in there too.

Don't be retarded. It could easily be 10+ years before the collapse, and you're willing to just immediately surrender the civilizations you build to live out your "innawoods" larp fantasy?

That's the job itself. What's the underemployment rate for those majors?

For a girl, I would 100% recommend college, with a focus on getting a Teaching or Nursing degree.

For a guy, I would 70% recommend college, unless he is good with his hands, then he is better off starting a landscaping company at age 19, instead of pumping money into college tuition, use that money to get a truck/trailer and a few zero-turn mowers and you can EASILY start making $250 a DAY at age 20 cutting lawns, cut 8 houses a day at about $30-40 and you'll be making $250 after you pay for the gasoline expense... or else tree work, excavation work....

Get a college degree in anything.
Be a secret society member.
Get a great job.
Don't do any work at your job. (Actual work is for the uninitiated.)
Still get promoted.

VERY easy to downplay things when you have no idea hoe complicated it is. Kys for having shit arguments

You all took the bait, ITT Jow Forums falls for trade school. SAGE

>my sibling majored in env science
so how many NGO projects he worked on? how many environment protection guys he met with? how many times he applied for government jobs? what was his ma or phd thesis?

>The bio major works taking care of kids with disabilities in a school. Basically minimum wage.
see above. what post grad did they do? what papers did they publish?

>One majored in accounting. Straight A student. Had like a 3.9 overall gpa. One internship (MAYBE more).
an accountant with a 3.9 GPA from a good school would easily find job in major accounting firms, Big Law, government jobs (80k at 26 isn't bad and once your portfolio start coming along you'll be spoiled for choice). now if it's some school out in the boonies, that's a different story, though accountants are always in demand.

>don't worry bro I can totally design that building for you I learned it at Coursera
>what's that? Med School? nah mane, I'm good I know a shit ton about human body from the Internet
>Law School? nah I watch a lot of TV and everyone says I argue like a lawyer, don't need no fancy formal education

sounds like you guys don't apply yourselves. if you want to best you have to give it your best.

i do have an idea of how complicated it is (not very)

Ya... RN nurses make over 90k in the LA area.

I just can't do it since it's basically a female job and you have to do nasty crap. Plus, I don't like the general public. Angry, ungrateful, and bad hygiene.

>civilizations you build
I didn't built shit
>surrender the civilizations
I surrendered as soon as I hit 16 and went out into the world pal
>"innawoods" larp fantasy?
got a cabin and I am prepared to live a self sustainable life if shit hits the fan,how are you doing,city fag?
I know you're scared but like I said,if you don't prepare yourself,bitching wont help in the end

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How so? You do word problems before?

Like what do you even know about it?

>inb4 generic as crap response

nice,you got a start,now expand into other fields,get to know people,make connections and don't be an autist
jack of all trades my friend

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>Another become a plumber thread
Not everyone is cut out for college. Blue collar work is better than working an Amazon warehouse or graduating with a 2.5. However, anybody who is leading you away from college even though you can succeed is trying to deceive you.

I'm in ok shape. I work out 2 to 3 times per week. Just lost 20 lbs in fact, 230 to 210.

The trucks are very expensive to maintain, but I don't pay for it. At my hub we have around 60 tractors. I work for a company, I'm not independent.

Forgot to add:
>100% medical, I just pay for glasses and prescriptions
>90% unlimited dental
>Various employee discounts
>6 weeks paid vacation
>14 sick days and option days

i remember calling them "word problems" when i was in 8th grade

1. Just a bachelors. She said she couldn't get internships. She in particular had a low gpa. Let's be real for a sec instesd of cherry picking and looking at the best. Env science isn't easy. You still have to invest a lot of effort into it and not everyone can get A's. In fact, most people dont.

2. Above

3. Idk what school she went to but considering her high gpa, it was probably a good one.
Her issue isn't with the pay, it's with the hrs.

What?

You really think the clumsy autist types on Jow Forums will do well with a physical skilled trade. I know i sure as fuck wouldn't. If i wasnt smart enough to get a good white collar job i would be working in fast food

I am saying don't go into blue collar if you can succeed in college. If you can't graduate with a 3.0+ in engineering/CS or a 3.4+ in an academic degree, you should look at other options.

Teaching at public school is hell.
They expect you to pass kids who don't show up to half of the classes.
They will let kids back talk you so they don't have to report it to the state.

Fuck Obama, fucking nigger is the worst president ever.

I am 2.5 yrs done with a bba econ degree. I'll stick with a chill union that pays 60k with benefits if I can get in due to the LOW STRESS.

IF I think I will get benefit from the bba econ degree, then I will finish it online BUT this job market is ass with a high underemployement rate.

I can finish it in 1.5 yrs if I really wanted to while working.

Also
>You are home every day by 4:30
Haha good joke.

>doesn't answer the fucking question

Dont forget that you can't discipline the nigger kids because its "racist" so they get away with murder

yes I have done """word problems""" you terminal brainlet; or as adults call them: "problems"
or did you think people in college still have homework assignments that look like: "1 + 1 = ?"
then again maybe they do in accounting kek

If you go into public education, DO NOT work in a Republican state
t. parents are educators in red states

Connecticut, Massachusetts, New York:

Average Teacher Salary: $80,000 a YEAR
- 12 weeks of vacation per year
- never work weekends or nights
- government health benefits
- retire at age 55 with state pension

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