What does Jow Forums think about the crusades?

What are your thoughts on the crusades and their history? REMOVE KEBAB DEUS VULT

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I can't stop thinking how cute pepe looks.

The Crusades of the Levant and Spain were justified. The Northern Crusades were not. All were basically the continuation of Viking raiding culture into the High and Late Middle Ages. Pic related is recommended reading.

>pepe
lurk moar

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Earlier ones were better. Most sucked. Most were necessary to keep the fucking Muslims from raiding us.

Lords were bored and needed a hobby

Wut? It's not pepe?

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don't worry user, I get my helpers and Pepes confused too

>Roman Emperor asks for money to hire highly trained and disciplined mercenaries to take back Roman clay
>send him hordes of unwashed germanics that try to carve out their own kingdoms on Roman clay and hasten the decline of the empire

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>Roman Emperor
The same unwashed barbarians that about conquered Greece a decade before after ruining Alexios' army.
Those same unwashed barbarians made Anna Komnene's panties wet.

Last I checked, Constantinople is still called Istanbul. You haven't removed any roaches.

Greece is rightful Roman clay

You know the Turks probably held the region longer than any """Roman""" Emperors did.

only thanks to traitorous germanic schismatics

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Have you ever even read any Byzantine history? They destroyed themselves through endless infighting and degeneracy. Blaming the barbarians is retarded. Barbarians are only a threat to an already rotten collapsing Empire. Any real nation can drive them off with one hand tied behind their back.

Because the gay pedos of Christian Rome Latina couldn't fight themselves

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>The New Concise History of the Crusades
by Thomas F. Madden

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The crusaders are responsible for the downfall of Byzantium and the occupation of Constantinople by the Muslims. Because of this the crusaders are also responsible for the Islamic conquoring of the Balkans.

The crusaders, at least the Middle Eastern ones, are responsible for the loss of Anatolia for European civilization.

Christianity is for subhumans

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they were gay t.b.h

Hey, that's a nice racetrack you byzaboos have.

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Rip Rome: 753 BC - 1453
She never recovered from the sack of Western Christian barbarians.

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The U.S. is in absolute lockstep with Roman history

>hurr it was the christians
Not hundreds of years of ruthless infighting and making the same fucking mistake as the Western Empire and replacing your armed Citizens with Mercenaries foreigners who will gladly slaughter your citizens for a usurper.

Byzashits had it coming. Anatolia was eastern, never fully European, and the Greeks were running a meme empire after they lost the Levant anyway.

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>Convince the emperor you're here to help
>He lets you in
>Betray him because you're uncouth barbarians
>Breakthrough walls which stood unbroken for over a millennia
Ya, totally had nothing to do with the collapse that soon followed.

You aren't an uncivilized barbarian, are you?

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Why don't you edmucate yourself. One sacking isn't going to kill an Empire.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Byzantine_revolts_and_civil_wars#11th_century
This shit will. Also hiring Turks to fight in these civil wars was a fantastic idea.

This probably drives home my point better
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Byzantine_usurpers#Unsuccessful_usurpers_in_the_11th_century

>They destroyed themselves through endless infighting and degeneracy.
Not arguing with you about that, but the g*rmanics were one of the final nails in the coffin.

>c*tholic calling anyone a pedo

too many white brothers died in the crusades, not enough actual crusading done. Proves that the pope aint shit

epic

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Our helpers

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You should probably brush up on your history there retard.

Why don't you fuckhead?
>The sultan duly provided a mixed force of cavalry and infantry and with these, Andronikos was able to take control of Constantinople.
>defection of his Turkish auxiliaries
>Over the next couple of years, the towns and forts of Thrace came over to Kantakouzenos' camp one by one, but at great cost, as his mainly Turkish troops repeatedly plundered the countryside.