Could the balkan posters tell me whats their opinion on Yugoslavia??

In the late 80s, we were under tremendous sabotage- the CIA put the full court pressure on Yugoslavia and the entire Iron Curtain.

We truly lost paradise.

Most people want it back. EU is a meme. We need to rise up and overthrow the globalist puppets ruining our glorious Yugoslavia!

>Most people want it back.
according to polls, croats and slovenians do not have any yugonostalgia
SAD!

your great nation?
Two of the states were the income earners the rest were welfare leeches.
eat shit, serv

And your shithole will be nuked too, nigger

TITIN VAKAT BOLAN

honestly though, despite all the pro-anti-nationalism people hated - it was an impressive country. Most of people here think positive on it (by "most people" statistics exclude faggots on Jow Forums that always have polarized partisaned ideas)

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fuck off glow n da dark monkey. I am proud Yugoslav. go suck some more of changs anus.

those (((polls))) are as trustworthy as the CIA who sabotaged and brainwashed an entire nation to becoming slaves and prostitutes

Every Slovenian and Croat I meet say they miss Yugoslavia and want it back

>Two of the states were the income earners the rest were welfare leeches.
60% of GDP was from Serbian industry. Slovenia was more developed but Croatia was industrially less than the rest of Yugoslavia and depended only on tourism and agriculture in Slavonia. Get educated faggot

What about kosovians

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>a leaf
>welfare leeches
> a leaf

>Kosovars
not Yugoslavian - Kosovars are Albanians from Kosovo and therefore are against the idea of unified slavic country. They didn't even make the majority 50years ago but now make like 95% (as a result of Serbian exodus during the wars) . Read on it, it's an important geopolitical conflict and a likely location of future European wars

Do you really think there's gonna be more dead soldiers in Kosovo? Hasn't there been enough of those in the past 600 years during various conflicts? As far as I know, your country is heading toward EU integration, a necessary part of which will be accepting Kosovo's independence.

>As far as I know, your country is heading toward EU integration
the political elite that is supported by EU is ofcourse heading towards that. That's what EU wants and therefore they are financing and supporting them. But all polls say that around 60% of population is against EU and 90% against NATO. People just don't want it here
>a necessary part of which will be accepting Kosovo's independence
unfortunatelly our government will probably accept some deal with EU and Kosovo in next 5 years and that alone may be a reason for a conflict. If North Kosovo doesn't get reintegrated into Serbia people living there will revolt and declare their independence starting a war. This won't be the first time something similar happens
>Croatia 91
>Bosnia 92
>Kosovo 98

If the shitstorm has been nonstop for 600 years simple deduction tells you that it probably won't stop. (Un)fortanatelly if the conflict starts I might be recruted into the lines since I am a reservist

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>If the shitstorm has been nonstop for 600 years
holy shit, didnt know it was really bad there

Why do Croatians and Serbians hate everybody?

it was fun in Yugoslavia until Soros/CIA came along and ruined the party

Yeah, I've felt the anti-NATO sentiment myself when I visited Novi Sad in the past week. It's ludicrous that both Bosnian and Serbian governments are pushing for it as I don't see it being in our best interest and there should be a pushback against it. But EU integration is an inevitability if we don't want to be economically isolated.

The Kosovo thing though... knowing that all those conflicts happened in the 90s and how they ended, can't some sort of compromise be reached? Can there be an RS-like entity within Kosovo? At least some sort of self governance for the Serb majority parts? Was this ever on the table or are Serbs categorically opposed to that idea?

500 years of Turkish forced Islamisation in the region left the demographics with lots of Christians and Muslims. It's the same thing as Bosnia - constant conflict between muslims and orthodox christians. Majority of Serbian wars troughout history were Kosovo centered

altough I'd argue that Bosnia is a bigger shitstorm than Kosovo
>remember Serbo-Turkish wars
>remember Balkan wars
>and WW1
>and Sarajevo assassination
>and WW2
>and Yugoslav wars
and that's just last 150 years

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no u
fucking turkroaches i swear

>Every Slovenian and Croat I meet say they miss Yugoslavia and want it back
lol oh please

>knowing that all those conflicts happened in the 90s and how they ended, can't some sort of compromise be reached? Can there be an RS-like entity within Kosovo? At least some sort of self governance for the Serb majority parts? Was this ever on the table or are Serbs categorically opposed to that idea?
well our elite proposed that "split" but USA refused it, as they don't give a fuck about our interests

soros pls go

*political elite

You think?
Fuck Serboslavia
We worked enought for you. Now you are literaly starving.

Turkey should scoop up the Balkans and the Middle East and form a neo-Ottoman co-prosperity sphere. They're in the right position to do it and it would be much better than looking for favors from the West. EU expansion is over and anyone who tries to talk to Saudi Arabia or Israel is degrading themselves

we are opposed to the idea but the RS-like entitiy already exists. North Kosovo is self-goverened. Bit the probablem is in many regions Serbs were expuled only 20 years ago. I have at least ~15-20 friends from Kosovo who had to flee and my best friends father was killed on police duty by albanian civilians
Kosovo cannot be recognized no matter what happens, we just can't do that. Even if all other nations do - we can't it's in our blood and history

>Serb majority parts?
Only non-Serbs get majority rule and self determination. Parting off Serbia is an important part of permanently smiting Yugolandia. A bunch of little shit states can be bargained with and dealt with better as Jr partners rather than some monolithic regional power with all the resources needed to tell you to shove it and walk away from a bad deal.

>Muh George Soros
George Soros wasn't the one sending money and guns to Croats during their liberation war. It was the Croatian diaspora worldwide. I doubt you're a Croat, at best you're a half Serb, Bosnian, or a troll.

>t. soros

I am Croatian and all Croatians and Slovenians here want Yugoslavia back.

Keep suckin soros dick

What Serbian industry, lel. That shitty tractor factory in Belgrade? Or Kragujevac Yugo shit?
Slovenia and Coatia made 80% GDP.
Btw, where is that Serbian industry now? You fucked peasants are woking in all Europe horse sweeaping jobs for 300 euro.

>croatia liberation war
it's funny how Croats call it. You were offered independence under the condition you allow Serbian parts to reintegrate back into Yugoslavia. You refused the deal and naturally RSK declared independence from you. You weren't liberating shit, you were invading regions with >90% Serbian population

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I'm not really sure there was a major conflict between Muslims and Serbs prior to WW2 in Bosnia.
>>Serbo-Turkish wars
Serbs weren't alone in their fight for autonomy. Husein Gradascevic fought for Bosnian autonomy by military means in the 1830s.
>>WW1 and Sarajevo assassination
This was the result of Yugoslav nationalism. There were also Muslims in the Young Bosnia movement.

>as a croat
>burger flag

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obvious Croat is obvious

At least we had tractor factories, I guess production of 50cc motorcycles was making that sweet 80 gorrilion percent of GDP

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You are not Croatian.

I am not saying it's just Muslim vs Catholic. The region is generally a hot-spot

It’s the epitome of a state telling its people there is no nationality whilst at the same time it bowed down every time a shitskin minority like the Turks in Bosnia and the Albanian’s in Kosovo kicked up a fuss, it’s pretty much like where the West is heading at the moment.

as per Brussels Agreement, the Association of Serb Municipalities should have been established but it still wasn't for 5 years since the agreement was signed, so while our government fulfilled everything - they did nothing in return as the agreement requests, not even that thing which is the most important part of it
they're now literally urging us with an ultimatum to sign one more agreement where we would guarantee that we wouldn't obstruct their plans for joining in UN and forming their army which is de facto putting an end to recognition of their independence

also if that association was ever to be formed it would probably be with little to none governance privileges for the serbs unlike it's promised in the agreement itself

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>you were invading regions with >90% Serbian population
Yeah how's Kosovo going for you guys?

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Millions of Slavs here now. Most White people in Brooklyn and Queens if not Jewish are Russian. Thousands of Croats, Serbs, and Bosnians in Missouri and Kansas for example. New York too. My kids school is 60% White American 15% Slav 25% Hispanic/Portugese

Serbian industry.

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>Serbs were expuled only 20 years ago. I have at least ~15-20 friends from Kosovo who had to flee and my best friends father was killed on police duty by albanian civilians. Kosovo cannot be recognized no matter what happens, we just can't do that. Even if all other nations do - we can't it's in our blood and history

I have to ask. What's the general consensus among the anti-Kosovo independence crowd regarding the independence of Republika Srpska? Pro, against or indifferent?

it's true actually

from my point of view it's either

If there's unity between people in Bosnia than Bosnia whould be united

If there's no unity, Bosnia should be split, RS to Serbia, Croat municipalities to Croatia and the muslim part given independence. There's no need to keep such country in one peace

I like the first option - the second one is more realistic

>t. čefur

best solution for everyone would be to remove all kebab and split it between Croatia and Serbia.

today yeah

30 years ago we produced jet fighter planes, automobiles, ships, trains, tractors, computers, electronics. While your country was doing banking and 50cc tomos as always

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>30 years ago we produced jet fighter planes, automobiles, ships, trains, tractors, computers, electronics
tell me the name of those companies, i am interested

I don't wan't it back, I just see and hear it from the older people. Tbh I just want to be left alone, no NATO, no €, no V4 no nothing.

Communist Yugoslavia was OK during Ribar and Tito in terms of life

yeah, but now you just produce turbofolk and dig up mass graves and landmines like the retarded slav/turk monkeys you are.

why were most influental commies always croatian?

And you don't see the double standard there? There's no unity among the people of Kosovo and yet you're not advocating for giving Albanian dominated parts to Albania. Did the same form of ethnic displacement through violent means not happen in Muslim majority towns now within RS territory? The basis for the claim on Kosovo is in the moral issue of giving up land you have a historic right to. But aren't you going against that same idea when it comes to Bosnia? This is my main contention point with Serbian rationale for opposing Kosovo independence, the inconsistency of it.

Opinion on Yogoslavia? Easy.

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Zastava - cars and trucks
FAP, Neobus and IKARBUS - trucks and tractors
IMT - tractors
Ivo Lola and Mihailo Pupin - computers
EI Nis - electronics and instruments
Soko, Aero-East, Ikarbus, JAT - airplanes

Open any page on _____ manufactures in Yugoslavia and you'll find that majority is Serbian. It's only natural too, Serbia had the biggest capacity for heavy industry and was the largest country in the union
And this is only mentioning secondary industrial products, most of mining and natural resources was done in Serbia and Bosnia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industry_of_Machinery_and_Tractors
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Companies_of_Yugoslavia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Aircraft_manufacturers_of_Yugoslavia_and_Serbia

ah yes, welcome!

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I only know that Montenegro is a Serbian clay.

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>There's no need to keep such country in one peace
This kind of meta makes for interesting thinking. Although real politic almost always has the say in the end, it would be interesting to come up a list of hypothetically agreed ideas of what should constitute a country. It would depend of course on sensibilities and end goals.

For instance, how could one redraw say Africa to optimize peace? Or one could decide to optimize along other perimeters. What perimeters-goals should be used?

Outside forces might prefer a plan which optimized for war, raw resource exports and would try to push it under cover.

This has and is being done of course, just often not in a public way. The most minimal changes would be the safest bets.

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you had all those things to remove kebab, and you wasted it

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Only Serbs and Muslims are nostalgic for Yugoslavia.

>Croatia was industrially less than the rest of Yugoslavia
top kek

it was a solid idea but those niggers south from Slovenia were lazy bastards, so we had to finance their lazy asses so we felt it's time to blow it all up. Now we're living on what we make and so are they and we're doing great while they all live in shitholes.

True.

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Doesnt matter as long as they kill the muslims

What do you mean?

well it wasn't bad, it was a sense of unity and brotherhood, we were all more lazy and it was all more relaxed and less stresfull.

The problem was all this chilling and having a good time was making us start falling behind the west, toward the end we were driving to austria to buy shit, it was really eye opening how further in front of us and better they were doing.

it was created by serbs and destroyed by serbs
so... it was a zastava car of politics.
meaning it was kinda... bad.
but we still like it, dont insult our car.

You were an enemy to globalization, senpai. You had to be divided and conquered. Also bombed.

My first car was a Zastava. Tough motherfucker. Still have it in my garage, maybe one day I'll modify it a bit for modern times.

(((NATO))) wasted them. The stronger command the weak.

I know. The mudslim problem.

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Too bad all of it went down the drain thx to the 90's privatisation scheme..

He's a Croat. Croats are brainwashed since 1990 to believe they're better off split. Maybe it's even true.

>western toys

Iron Curtain was never focused on the automaton-producing autist technology that is pervasive and endemic to the west. Iron Curtain was focused on advancing Space/Military and industry to sustain the population.

The life extinguishing tech of the west was alien to Iron Curtain. Soviet society was cohesive, communal, and very childlike. Sorta like anarch-primitivism

Also, the communist bloc, preserved good aspects of european culture. Small, tight-knit communities, well-trained classical musicians- and no degeneracy.

Who needs 100 different flavors of dragon dildos anyway?

Never fucking again.

What are you? A Serv diaspora?

Are Croats the good guys or the bad guys?

>denial of genocide
proof of genocide please?
protip: killing 7000 men isnt genocide

No Croat wants that shithole back, take it from one that escaped. Yugoslavia was always a serb dominated shithole of a country, thats why it failed so spectacularly.

Yugoslavia was the good guys. Republics led by CIA saboteurs were the bad guys

what once was may become again. Croatia will burn in flame of industry once more

This is wrong. Take it from a Croat who is plotting the return of Yugoslavia

>Croatia will burn in flame
iz tvojih usta u bozije usi

voting for this, but no communism plz, monarchy or nothing.

is there some kind of rilvalry between serbs and croatians

Please draw your ideal Balkans map here. Bonus points for explanation to outsiders.

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sibling rivalry yes, they are like twins that always tries to better the other.

Rimac is giving me hope for some stuff actually developing.. too bad he's also a bit liberal.. but he's actually employing locals a lot so there's that.. now if only the rest would stop with the shitty greed

When the world was o.k.

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