Why aren't you Libertarian?

Why aren't you Libertarian?

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I am.

I would like to be, but "live and let live" helps to degenerate society

Because I'm a voluntaryist.

Any govt is too much govt

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This.

You either die a good goy or live long enough to see yourself become a fascist.

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But I am a libertarian.

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Because I do not have autism.

I have some libertarian tendencies, but I also recognize that the State is too dominant a tool, not to be used by someone. If you and your group don't take charge of the State, someone else will. It boils down to the details. What do you want the State to do? Saying "as little as possible" is too vague.

Because it is even more utopian then communism?

To be honest you can see this in real time as the left took over our culture simply because they had more rules than the right did.
The neocons just told us to pull ourselves up by our own bootstraps while the left wanted more equality,justice,programs,hatespeech laws,ect.

While I respect the ideology and their freedom and personal property thinking it just seems to utopian/unrealizable in such a populated and heterogenous world.

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also post libertarian memes pls

I am.
I think libertarianism is the most superior system, BUT it requires a minimum treshold IQ that most ppl dont have.
So IF we ever take the opportunity to build an AnCap system, we MUST exclude the low IQ irredeemables.

(Sry 4 bad english; am not native speaker)

Well that's why we need pic related to make the world less heterogeneous. Pair it with stopping gibs and the degenerates won't be able to support their ways and either die off or assimilate.

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Because (((they))) won't let us live in peace

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>don’t tread on me

Or else what? Democrat traitors have been treading on America for decades. Libertarians were suppose to do something about it. Kill commies, snipe politicians, etc, etc. You didn’t do anything. All you do is blather on about your holy “NAP”. Fail.

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because i dont trust other people not to fuck it up

>suit jacket with dad jeans

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Because I like structure and law n shiiieeettt

If anything libertarians will be the last people to vanish from the planet, as they're for the most part self-reliant, practical and good family men.

Libertarianism will never work in a world full of third world mudbloods.

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And that's why I'm ethnominarchist.

>free your children from freedom
Yeah, that makes sense ...

I am simply who I am.

I'm sympathetic to libertarians, but market failures are a thing and government regulation is sometimes necessary.

t. Bachelor's degree in economics

I am, Im a market socialist, a mutualist to be spaciffic, i want a free market and socialism.

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>but market failures are a thing and government regulation is sometimes necessary.
Like when the federal reserve caused the great depression?

(((Libertarian)))

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Good luck when your NEW fellow citizens want more government at your expense.

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The original Libertarians were socialists, Look up Proudhon, you fucking leaf.

They wont, The Idea of Libertarianism is to replace The state with a More productive free and loose association of federations and Co-ops and buisnesses, ala no state.

>Looks at the world
Nah thank you I'm fine being NatSoc

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I'm an anarchist and I don't fucking believe in "live and let live". Fucking physically remove degenerates and democrats and communists and socialists ( same thing really ) from your covenant society.
That's why open borders are a threat to private property my dude. The border needs to remain as closed as possible but also open to white christian men of merit, like your policy used to be.

Libertarianism is Jewish created ideological nonsense to induce dumb goyim to be against other dumb goyim that follow some another Jewish
Made up ideological crap. At the end the Jew wins and the goyim lose.

What do you call it when you believe that the state shouldn’t make laws that only hurt the person breaking them. Aka drug laws, seatbelt laws. But still believe that taxes are a good thing

fpbp

It's based on Volenti Non Fit Iniuria, basically victimless crimes. BTW you can theoretically justify some taxes, but definitely not income taxes and taxing the populace at more than 10% of overall income.

> unironic anti-semite.
> Still a leaf
Proudhon was an antisemite tard, most anarchists/libertarians aren't anti-semitic now since its kinda counterproductive and anarchists and libertarians are anti-identitarian. In my views capitalism, Communism etc.. are all equally shitty since they pretty much push one group or people down.

I should say Proudhon was an antisemite, tard as in referring to you, not Proudhon.

The open border debate ended 40 years ago. 45%~ of the population is non-White and they will continue to grow by native birth rate alone. Closing the border is no longer enough.

lol that really is a utopia, isn't it. The State is the beast that never dies; it changes shape and only at the discretion of the people it means to govern.

Jow Forums is Just new /b/, this is an incredibly flawed image.
> we are legion Faggot.

Because there are NO moral or ethical incentives in a Libertarian Utopia, thus making it a prime target for decadence.

I only believe in mass deportation of illegal immigrants, criminals and mass deportation from private property. BTW I'm from Poland our country is basically 96% polish 99.9% white.

exactly

The best Americans are libertarians at heart, centrists in reality. Both sides are extremes that have their own faults. Theory of mutual exclusivity/inclusivity can apply to most things in life, especially this case.

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>lol that really is a utopia, isn't it. The State is the beast that never dies; it changes shape and only at the discretion of the people it means to govern.

Not really my friend, Proudhon Based his ideals on already functioning system that operate independent of the state.
Look Im no fan of Illegals either But to be an anarchist that wants to bar imigrants from other peoples personal/private property is kind of a meme.

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system(s)

Because I’m not a jew or a shabbos goy

Because I turned 12 and realized just who stupid it is.

How the fuck do you niggers justify breaking private property rights and forcing other people to accept other kikes and spics on their property?

Because America has done it for, at least, 70 years now

If you are white you've got imprints of rational/natural law/rights in your genes.
That was the classical liberal position a few centuries ago.
They couldnt predict such a multi cultural society back then...

Unlike say an-communists who want dramatic change immediately, I want to progressively replace the state and capitalism (replacing it with a real free market)with a counter-economic system as well as waging class war against the bourgeoisie
I don't, I'm a mutualist not a communist, I believe property is defined by use and labor.

I'm only only not a libertarian when /pol thinks I'm a commie.

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because I care about the well-being of my countrymen, rather than just my own

Identitarianism is a dead meme.

this is what fascists actually believe

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They whine too much about da evil of gooberment.

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Sorry I read that wrong. The worse our situation as white people gets the more extreme positions I'm willing to take. Deporting illegals and criminals would bo for now good enough, but I'm fucking willing to go much further if this shit goes on.
Ultimately I don't believe anyone has the right to decide about another man's property.

Because I value my race more than shekels.

agreed, thats why we should have co-ops and federations run by workers rather then corporations, the state, and banks.

Fuck off commie cunt.

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Wouldn't the best thing to do is to secure yourself a private property ethnostate? Private property always goes better than forcefully socialized.

No don't get me wrong i want to deport them to, but i don't wanna completely shut off our borders and i think there should be a very stringent process in becoming a citizen, then again that is up to the vote of the community with those who disagree with the vote free to take in immigrants if they choose, but only if they claim responsibility.

I'm pretty much a closed borders guy but I would be willing to compromise with you.

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well in a mutualist country, it would be up to the community strictly so no doubt there would be closed border cities, towns whatever.

I don't have a problem with mutualists since you guys would allow for radicallly conservative ethnostates with radical deportation laws to exist, the only problem with your ideology is that it could lead to extinction of your system through democrats, socialists and minorities taking over.

its just compassion for other people. Does that conflict with mutualist philosophy?

DO lefties think anything he said is supposed to be offensive?

That image is flawed, corporations are based on voluntary participation, unlike a government that forces its constituents to comply.

Corps do shit that effects you whether you like it or not. That's the definition of NOT-voluntary.

If they pollute and you are downstream, you are drinking their shit water or breathing their shit air whether you like it or not.

Nothing is wholly participatory. A company can force that shit on you just as much as gooberment.

Learn to think more.

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>no age restriction, so kids can work now too
>no minimum wage, so spics and fucking kids drive down wages to near nothing
>no safety standards, they detract from muh profit margins
>no workers comp or unemployment regulation, so now you are injured, unemployed, and poorer

Kanye said it best, slavery was a choice. M-muh voluntary participation, right

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because you touch yourself at night

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My main thing is protecting the worker rights of my countrymen as well as not allowing corporations to exploit the workers of another country.
don't have a problem with mutualists since you guys would allow for radicallly conservative ethnostates with radical deportation laws to exist, the only problem with your ideology is that it could lead to extinction of your system through democrats, socialists and minorities taking over.

we are socialist -anarchists, and the police, military etc... would still exist just not in the same sense as today, they would be comprised of Co-ops and businesses forming federations to protect one another's best interests say their factories etc.. as well as their workers/owners.

That's not compassion, that absolutionism, nationalism is a spook my friend, although i am a mutualist, i find stirners radical individualistic views useseful, although the ego is a spook.

I like roads

meme teir ideology

(((Lolbertardianism))) isn't the hero we need.

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How do you know what is better for people than they do?
What is the basis of this knowledge?

Nice reddit tier meme, Roads, and other services are funded through a community's mutual bank and provided through Local Businesses and co-ops, join in federations, don't be ignorant user.

>Being forced at gunpoint to work at a concentration camp is more freedom than being able to work whatever job you chooe to pursue.

> implying fascism didn't draw any values from libertarianism.

Look up syndicalism and Proudhon's' influence on Shitler.

>A VOLUNTARY TAX IS HOW IT WILL GET DONE, CHECKMATE ATHEISTS

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Retarded deconstructionist ideology created by jews like any other that is destroying the west.

Why?
They are across the world, blowing each other up. Libertarian nation is still having liberty, and national defense to prevent attacks.
Why doesn't it work?

Market Failures exist, but that doesn't mean the government is not any better.

Because individualism and capitalism are degenerate.

And if you have a restricted constitution that makes such implementations an impossibility beyond a state level?
And a national defense that prevents coups?

It's basic economics numbnuts, if people need a service, they'll pay for it.
It was literally created by an anti-semite, you could argue that libertarianism has changed and that's true, however, it changed to be more consistent with its own ideology.

Are churchs banned in Libertarian utopias?

I don't want to pay $4999 a month for my Citizenship Bronze™.

actually going to run into fishermans dilemma. theres a hypothetical scenario where fisherman all agree to fish only a set amount as to avoid overfishing, but once one of them murders the other for less competition they all end up killing each other and only the fish end up surviving.

if the jew was not around and we had an a besto state fine we can be degrenate fuck wades and smoke weed all day and fire guns like hill billys but we got bigger fish to fry

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so identitarianism/collectivism is any better? what about the famines and genocides etc...
No.
Not how that works, you can be self-sufficient, pay to pave your own roads etc...

>It (libertarianism) was literally created by an anti-semite.
WTF, I love libertarians now.

Because im older than 16

If I don't like what Coca-cola does, I can choose not to buy Coca-cola.
You are not going to be working for 99.999% of corporations, you are going to be working for one, or for yourself. Learn skills that will provide value so you don't have to work for the shitty ones.