School-mandated psychiatrist checkups

Do you think in-school psychologists and mandated checkups could have prevented the Parkland and Santa Fe shootings?

For example, KPop groups have a personal psychiatrist who gives regular mental health check ups
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That's like one step from penis inspection day.

qt megane korean is only living by her cultural standards (collectivism is what is needed). maybe they need to fix their culture

i dare say the woman heavy environment, and the holier than thou persona that is school psychologists caused the shooting.

fuck. i work in schools everyday, and between the ahithead kids everyone seems to want to protect, and the women that absolutely saturate these schools with their gossip and drama, its honestly a wonder more kids havent freaked out

>hey, i heard your intercom is broken
>every single woman in the office pipes up with her own take, and idea of whats wrong, and what might be causing the problem
>cant askquestions because they wont fucking shut up
>cant ask wuestions without every other woman but the one i asked the question too injecting their $0.02

yes, it's counter-reactive.. it doesn't help most people and as the kids grow up they realize that was some seriously weird state run psyop shit that maimed them.

better to go the healther route of physical activity, group teamwork, self exploration.
just be kind to these kids, and don't kick them when they're down deep

>mandated checkups
i can onlysee this stirring up more dissent, singling out more people, and making the issue worse. you can already tell kids are pissed when schools do their aocial activism bullshit.

it ought to be a fuckig isolated prison zone if you ask me. These kids send way too much tome gossiping with teachers, and fucking around inbetween classes (or in class where about 10% of the time i see actual teachings, lessons, and work getting done) tobe receiving a proper education, and it is this reason kids have more time to bully, more time to stew, and more time tothink about how and who to kill.

What if kids just filled out a short survey every month, to detect depression? Those kids could get KPop-style sessions with the psychiatrist

> better to go the healther route of physical activity, group teamwork, self exploration.

The Santa Fe shooter joined the football team, and the coach bullied him and called him names

Kpop groups are little more then the conditions of the sweat shop applied to the production of music. No one should look at kpop as an example of mental health.

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>Removing weapons violates muh freedom
>Government mandated mental health checks are perfectly fine though
Just get rid of guns you fucking retards.
What you're doing is like a tech company arguing that instead of making hacking impossible by securing their servers they should instead perform mental health checks of every user of their service and try to identify problems in society because after all, "unprotected servers don't cause mass data breaches, malicious people do".

No, psychology and psychiatry are pseudoscience. They can't predict shit.

you can't take away guns, not in America. That's a non-starter

the psychiatrist in the video correctly identified the depression in the KPop singers. I don't know about predicting who will commit suicide, but at least he offered treatment for them

yeah, almost all of the singers left the group soon after the documentary was made

> blah blah so instead of protecting the server, let's ban non-government computers

Your metaphor is bullshit. Isn't there a spoon you should be turning in to the police right about now?

>psychoLOGists

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How about when a group of people report an unstable sociopath to the police, they do something.

I don't understand how even gungrabby types have not noticed that every single time there has been a shooting the signs were so obvious its painful.

The Columbine kids wrote journals about masturbating into open wounds, Elliot Rodger was mentally unstable for years and had a history of violent sociopathic behaviour, Randy Stair was uploading videos of him bragging about his shotgun shell horde and ran like fifteen twitter pages where he would ERP as his paranoid ghost pussy delusions and this Texas kid's facebook is a fucking goldmine of "I'M A SCHOOL SHOOTER PLEASE STOP ME" tier shit.

We don't need psychological screenings, the police just have to do literally anything when the kids are reported

Well bulletproofing all kids could work as well, but I think removing guns might be slightly more practical.

joining a football team isnt going to make up for the complete lack of a proper PE class, where jocks and nerds have to sweat balls together in the same conditions. id say a major factor is that it appears all he had for physical education was football.

pe is what identified the cool nerds, and the loser jocks. the great leveler.
Extracurricular sports was a waste of time if you werent varsity, or upset the established balance of power that came from last years team.

We need book clubs, math clubs, sports clubs, art clubs.
why the fuck when school is over, do i see every fucking kid leave in a rush, and the teachers behind them 20 minutes later? what are our taxes paying for?

a system designed to grab a generation, and surround it by social media and socialactivism from the moment it wakes up until the moment it sleeps.

>practical
>hey, we live in the ozarks, and its time to hunt for the winters food
>aww fuck, because it was more practical, they banned guns because mentally unstable faggots were egged on by society to the point of shooting innocent people
>practical

Yall need less NHS funding, and more education funding

It can give insight and some level of understanding that with the right intuition can be utilized to diagnose and treat or help people deal with many things. I totally get why you would distrust it, it's not absolute and most psychiatrists can't and are miserable failures with it.

He did everything you said he did, but he was still depressed or mentally ill or whatever. He had a full nuclear family and did extracurricular activities in school. A in-school psychiatrist could have caught his mental illness and helped

> In many ways, Mr. Pagourtzis was a part of the Santa Fe community.

> He made the honor roll. He played defensive tackle on a school football team that was the pride of the town.
> His family was involved in the Greek Orthodox Church.
> Valerie Martin, a teacher at the junior high school in Santa Fe, said she had Mr. Pagourtzis in her pre-A.P. language arts class last year.
> She saw no signs that Mr. Pagourtzis might do such a thing, she recalled in an interview.
> She viewed him as bright, she said, adding he had taken part in the school’s competition for a national history contest. “He was quiet, but he wasn’t quiet in a creepy way.”

> Tyler Ray, 18, a football player who said he knew the Pagourtzis family well, said that Mr. Pagourtzis showed up for summer workouts and tried hard even though he wasn’t very athletic.
> His family, Mr. Ray said, came to the games to support him, though they struggled to pay for equipment.

> The day before the shooting, Mr. Ray and Mr. Pagourtzis went on a class field trip to Schlitterbahn, a water park in Galveston.

I think schools just need better exercise options period. I was a fat fuck in high school but the PE classes were a fucking disgrace it was like vollyball or just doing goddamn laps of a fucking oval.

Later when I was in senior year I found out our school had a fucking full Gym, treadmills, ellipticals, weights, bikes etc, a full fucking gym in a room I never knew was even there. Sitting there gathering dust for years.

If I had been given the option to do weight training in PE I would've probably loved PE rather than hated it.

Its not like there's a lack of people studying personal training. Would it really be so hard to just hire a PT and have them offer a real fitness class? Its not like schools are short on government money to spend so why the fuck not?

You are all fucking clueless. School is the problem, more school will be more of a problem.

The thing about a psychiatrist or a coach, is what does that even mean? They aren't all the same and they aren't an exact science. You got a doctor and he gives you medicine that works. His personality has fuck all to do with whether or not the medicine works. You go to a psychiatrist and you have no idea who you are giving all your personal information and you have no idea what their motivations are. They may beat their kids, they be drug addicts, they might be a sociopath.

You need good parents, that's it. That's all. Quit taking all this shit away from parents, because you end up with parents not feeling accountable for their kids.

How do you even get to this point? You can't even see how fucked up the foundations you are building all of this off of is.

> providing protection for 90,000 schools for 8 hours/5days A week
Vs.
> confiscating 300+ million guns from 100+ million people

You are probably just "pretending to be retarded", but just in case you are not:

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I have no problems with hunters / farmers obtaining a license to own firearms after undergoing a mental health check, provided they're locked up when not in use.
I have an issue with the unhinged school autist being able to pop down to the local walmart and come back with a rifle.

Santa Fe is a small rural town, with many residents who are farmers. He used his father's shotgun, which was used for hunting and such

>mandated checkups
yeah just what we need. more people living in fear of the administration. As if they didn't have enough options to fuck your life up with

Won't work, they'll give a pass to psychos who believe there are 67 genders and want to chop their penis off. Open revolt will follow.

>be depressed
>get expelled
Genius.

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>You need good parents, that's it. That's all.

yeah, we just need to fix all the parents, that's very useful

Nah, you are never going to fix parents, or the school. It's never going to be perfect. Psychiatrists won't help either way, and most of these shooters were doped up by shrinks in the first place. The problem isn't the solution.

he stole those guns my toofless ruddy britbing friend

Which is why I said farmer's guns should be locked up when not in use.
It's the giving unstable people easy access to lethal weapons aspect I have issue with, I don't think anyone can argue that a mentally stable adult farmer who needs a shotgun to work shouldn't have one.

>in-school psychologists and mandated checkups
my predictions if implicated
>in first year its clear 10-15% of the kids are being beaten/raped by their parents
>parents shut the whole thing down after first year

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I would like to see an honest study on mass shooting perpetrators and the use of SSRIs.

he was 17, maybe his father thought he was old enough to access the safe. He's not a toddler

No, they won't do their job. They will just target students that don't accept liberal bullshit.

the psychiatrist in the KPop group seemed like a nice man who wouldn't do that

kek

guidance counselor at my hs was gay and basically got the introverted kids to go to him regularly and tried to turn them gay, he succeeded with a few

id rather have penis inspection day

YES! GIVE THE GOY MORE SSRIS!

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Because he's but a man who's hired to do his (presumably) high-paying job.
Ever wondered why is public education such a sinkhole and at the same has baffling quality?

I am so glad we shot your ancestors instead of listening to your hobbesian commonwealth garbage.

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i suppose things are different in britbong land, where if the bloody queen says dont do it, you dont do it, and if the door says locked, you just give it up.

but a family gun vault is just that. what youre implying is now we further divide families by living in fear and keeping your gun vault cofes a secret for fear little jonny gets it into his head to kill everyone at school.

people are way too opinionated these days. way too willing to put down others because what they think must be wrong. because of this, kids and teachers in schools are always saying hirtful shit, and unintentionally hurting others, and it is the cause of the recent uptick in violence.

it isnt about your point anymore, but how many followers you have, and the clothes youre wearing, and how much money mommy and daddy gave you.

so hiring more adults for the kids to chum up to, and further radicalize the bullying issue isnt the solution. and its a real fucking sad state of affairs that teachers can gossip, influence, chit chat, and laze about all day playing withthe kiddies, while mom and dad have to buy a vault and lock the pistols up, forfear the exucation system might influence himto stealthe guns, and merc the whole lot.

seriously, these schools are run way too informally and chummy. its the exact same sort of shit that causes employees to hold grudges.

why is it kids are always getting into massive brawls in school? wellthe answer is most assuredly not because they are disciplined.

>mandating anything to the public will prevent demo donkey stomping to divert, distract, and push their agenda.
Yup should totes work mah d00d

19 now, realising I've wasted at least 3 years of my life already
no one will take me and I have nowhere to go and nothing to do

public school was a mistake and it's no wonder American kids go postal now and then

Nah, there is enough freaking out when kids try to play cops and robbers or doodles a gun in their notebook

Just turn schools into shooting ranges. They dont learn anything there anymore

What they need are a secret group of students monitoring the teachers and administrators. The secret group should have incident reports, video, photos, witnesses. Document sjw teachers and keep the heat on them. Purge from below

Become a sailor on trade ships. It's a major source of income in my area and requires no skills, provided you have decent body condition.

I don't think it'll help.
The psychologists who do checkups for kpop groups are probably paid insane amounts of money for their work, which will not happen if they work for average schools, so the quality of these checkups will be dramatically lower than those of (for example) kpop groups.

>so user, I've been detecting from you some subliminal antisemitism
>it looks like you'll need a mandated estrogen injection along with some re-education

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it's a Canadian high school too, so they'll give you some peanut butter and a mandatory 15 minutes with the sexual support dog

I think that's kinda good idea. Everybody needs someone to talk with every once for a while.
Not sure if it would do anything about the issue tho as many people with mental problems stay quiet about them.

>literally screening kids for wrongthink

Can't make this shit up. When is the West finally going to hit rock bottom?

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Why don't they just have programs for the kids, turn them into functional humans instead of letting them rot in the social shitpit that is highschool. We have Police youth centers here for the underage gang lebs, which at least keeps them relativity in check. Give younger men something to respect and work for, instead of the moral void created by modern schooling systems of muh 'equal space' and 'no violence' or no 'boys will be boys' mentality.

what parkland and santa fe shootings? you mean the non shootings that didn't happen while (((the media))) (((claims))) they happened while providing 0 tangible proof just like sandy hoax?
no, the stupid nigger shit ypu're proposing as a means to further fuck up children with SSRIs and weird (((quack))) torture methods wouldnt prevent shit, it would only forment it

>have you asked any girls out recently
>w-well kind of
>and how did that go
>ahh kinda bad she kinda laughed and walked away
>Oh I see can you stay seated while I call the guards to take you away to have your hands removed and be neutered

>guys look kpop groups have there own psychologists schools should to

Saying kpop groups have psychologists is probably one of the worst ways you could have ever tried convince someone to think is a good idea.

>Police youth centers here for the underage gang lebs
wut

Maybe the lack of penis inspection days in the US are contributing factors. School nurse fondling your penis .... hmmmm?

Leo
>also checked

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And if you listen to kpop your gay as hell

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>school-mandated psychiatrist checkups
>(((psychiatrist)))
It's just an avenue to push drugs.

Everybody seems to think this is a terrible idea, but a lot of schools lack any councilors at all. Maybe it shouldn't be mandatory, but it could at least be an option that's there for students that wanted to use it. I mean, a student who feels like they can't or don't want to talk to their parents and don't have any close friends might not have anybody else to talk to. There could be some benefit, but it should be optional.

They teach them boxing and sport and shit like that and have proper male role models who most of the time were shitcunts themselves who have lived the life of being shitcunts so they can talk to them on their level.

I don't know how it can be applied to losers though.

>kek in my ID..

it's just spying by another name

Every school has at least one councillor but most schools dont force you to talk to them

Schools are full of shitty teachers. I could only imagine the quality of psychologists they would employ.

Probably ones who write prescriptions to solve every problem

The pressures of being a kpop idol would be on par with the last act of mother! and are nothing like some flyover highschool kid's puberty blues.

The kids at Parkland and Santa Fe were victims of bullying. That Mexican dyke even announced proudly at a rally that they "ostracised him" because he was weird.

Exactly, younge men are biologically required to have role models, authority, tradition and respect in their lives. When schools remove this, which is where younger men spend much of their time, it undermines their very nature as humans.

that's literally the point behind this jewish idea being piggybacked off this jewish school shooting meme psyop

Moreover, take them fishing, shooting, proper manual labour work, hell even social videogames will do, just give them something where they form brotherships with other younger males. Gun violence is sipmly a symptom of this abscense.

They’ll come for our butter knives next.

He had all of that though

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Psychiatry and psychology in the USA is fucked. Only about 10%-15% of mental health professionals would actually be competent enough to make a person better. Twice that would likely make the person worse. The rest just bleed the patient of their money, either from the patients pocket or their insurance.
Hinestly, most mental health professionals in this country should be banned.

You really think he gave a shit about church and football, he was into vapourwave and evils, more edgy shit. I doubt he cared or made mates when he was excluded in the football team and swore himself to (((anti-religious))) ideology such as marixsm.

which is why mental health adults need to intervene. All the normie activities didn't help him at all

>school-mandated
Yeah, ... let the worst scum on the planet handle that ... great idea.
Schools ... those ultracorrupt femscummy shitholes that dont even manage to .... educate the children.

Wow....
Fucking INGENIOUS idea! ...

What the fuck is with you Americans and therapy? You are totally obsessed with it.

only the brainwashed ones aka b**mers and m*llenials
when you hear someone talking seriously suggesting such shite then you know that they are one of the two, and that you can disregard them entirely