Stop pushing the lies about nofap and noporn

Watch nobody in this thread post any study proving otherwise.

If you're not a good looking Chad you're not going to fuck hot girls with options, get it through your heads. Just lol at people believing nofap will make them attractive.. this level of cope

Wait until you're married and have kids before you fap. It doesn't matter anymore at that point.

Yes there is.
Source: PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.

Sex is so much better when you don't indulge in this degenerate behaviour of touching your own penis sexually while digitally cucking yourself, faggot.

Yes goy give your minds to the pornographic jew nothing bad will happen we the chosen people guarantee it.

> watch local made porn
Sorry Chippy, but not everyone has a village porn star.

>Source: PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/171622108/

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Yeah, personal experience from improved sex after not fapping to porn, you moron.

What could possibly go wrong when you condition your brain with porn.

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you have to have a sex life first in order to improve it from nofap. The vast majority of nofappers are delusional incels who think it will boost their testosterone and make them alpha rofl. Chad could jerk off 10 times a day and he will still cuck you

you fagots ever went a week before cucking to porn? lol no, because you cant. youre addicted to it. having gone beyond a 100 days i laugh when some fagot defends porn, its really pathetic from my pov

actually, is the opposite

Why do you care user? Go ahead wank off to your cuck porn no one is stopping you. That you want others to join you just tells us you're not sure if you're doing the right thing, seems like your seeking validation, so here it is: you're a good boy. Are you happy now?

It's funny because you're retarded.

I thought illegitimate evidence was good enough for illegitimate children

Absolutely. As with everything, if you do the same thing over and over again its going to get boring and result in less of a thrill. For something like masturbation which requires a surge in excitement you are far more likely to get less excited to the same old smut.

It's like if you watched gore videos for an hour everyday, eventually the stuff that made you squeamish before is going to have little impact on you just because you have seen it everyday.

>Absolutely
>Doesn’t post evidence
Really makes you think

actually there is evidence, you retard. i bet you havent woken up with an erection in years.

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>Go 7 days nofap
>Either making bigger gains due to more effort
>Placebo
>Or no fap

>Dont care seems to be working regardless

Enjoy feeling empty and hollow all day, I'll keep lifting up tomorrow.

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Jewish science journals publishing the results of a study on the effects of Jewish propagated pornography on your brain to dissuade you from falling into it's general trap.

Nice try schlomo

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Fucking kek. But in all seriousness, isn’t internet porn now illegal in bongistan?

It's not about getting attractive, it's about removing the alternative from your life and forcing you stop cucking yourself so you spend your time learning how to interact with other human beans instead of wasting an hour of your life searching for the video you can actually get hard to and masturbating for another hour because your cock head is so callous you have lost sensitivity.

I tap all the time and I get morning wood. Morning erections have nothing to do with arousal you retard. The responses to no fap aren't red flags , they're just pointing out stupid magical thinking on the part of the no fappers. If fappers are neurotic or self destructive then nofappers are just another stupid cult that delude themselves they will fix themselves by denying themselves something , then when they 'relapse' it's like all of it was for nothing lol, it's so fucked up

see

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Go ahead and read a book you like 100 times, did you still enjoy it as much as the first time? Play a game 100 times, still as fun as the first time? Go watch a movie 100 times? Did you still enjoy the 100th watch as much as the first watch?

Eventually getting off to the same fetish is going to get boring, like literally everything else in life. Doing the same thing over and over again is going to reduce enjoyment of whatever you were doing. You are either going to stop watching porn or you are going to switch to slightly weirder fetishes because the old ones are getting stale. Do this enough times and you are going to result in some really specific fetishes. That is why odd fetishes are more prominent on places like Jow Forums. Do you think it's a coincidence that so many people here unironically like traps and dick girls where as vanilla is seen as far too tame for the majority?

You're pathetic, you sound exactly like an addict having a neurotic tantrum because hes been called out. You're probably young or middle aged and hence it hasn't effected you (yet). You'll lose your morning woods eventually and if you ever end up screwing a women, you wont be able to satisfy her.

Porn turns you into a faggot and cuck, which is obvious by your post, OP.
You must be 18 to post here.
Reported.

>its magical thinking

That's not how it works, lad.

Again, see

i have a feeling the location of the prostate acts as natural reminder of your job to procreate. everyday, sometimes multiple times a day you will have a shit drop into your colon and stimulate your prostate. Before you even know you have to shit, youre primed for easy arousal. something to be aware of.

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>still no evidence
Gets really boring talking to people here sometimes

what did I just say? Morning wood is from sleep hormones and has nothing to do with fapping or not . This is so retarded

Come on user, don't be difficult. He's right. Masturbation drains your body of energy that could be directed otherwise. I'm not going to link you anything, because this is common sense.

there is evidence, kind of, it's the Coolidge Effect, but for the vast majority of guys it's not their fapping that's preventing them from getting laid, it's their face. If you were good looking your dick could be completely spent from drugs or fucking all day and the girl would still spend an hour slobbering on it to try to please you

No fap leads to Islamist mindset.

If I go three days without fap or sex I want to rape everything with two legs and get super agro in clubs.

Fap away faggots. Vent your pent up man juice lest it goes to your brain.

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What energy? From moving your wrist? This is retarded. Your testosterone goes up a bit if you don't ejaculate but that caps after about a week and again it's about ejaculation and not porn or fapping specifically

>because this is common sense.
Not an argument. For some people, it is “common sense” to use political violence (I don’t agree but I know some people believe this).

I don't know of any legitimate science, but I know I do feel completely drained and unmotivated after fapping a few time, I realized this before the whole nofap phenomenon. Do what feels right I guess. If you can fap and be fine with it, have at it. If you're fapping and depressed all the time, it doesn't hurt to experiment with not fapping a while.

Also, you don't need "legitimate evidence" to know you're more likely to hunt when you're hungry.

yourbrainonporn.com/are-fetishes-innate

>Norman Doidge MD wrote about this in his bookThe Brain That Changes Itself:

>The current porn epidemic gives a graphic demonstration that sexual tastes can be acquired. Pornography, delivered by high-speed Internet connections, satisfies every one of the prerequisites for neuroplastic change.... When pornographers boast that they are pushing the envelope by introducing new, harder themes, what they don't say is that they must, because their customers are building up a tolerance to the content.
>satisfies every one of the prerequisites for neuroplastic change
>neuroplastic change

WOW

This aussie is right though. Dont fap til you're useless but trying to go full nofap literally just makes you a muslim rager. It's tough striking a balance but it's the only way.

Fucking kike

I've provided anecdotal evidence, which is in fact evidence. What I've stated is common sense regardless, doing the same thing over and over again will bore you. When something bores you do one of two things, you either stop doing it or spice it up with something new. This applies to literally everything in life.

For some reason you think that porn is some special exception to this common sense rule.

I tried both.
Nofap is bs
Noporn is absolutly legitemate, My psyche has recovered after I stoped watching it ~2 years ago.
I stoped drinking a few months later.

Masturbating often makes you weak fatigued and without motivation, preventing you from improving your life and impose yourself in front of other people.
Also it drains all the testosterone acumulated in your body during no-fap.

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It doesn't only drain testosterone. It drains macro and micro nutrients to create jizz.
You literally get nutrient deficient by jacking off and can and will become physically retarded if you do it consistently.
Dig deeper.

You're actually wrong. Yes it is testosterone dependent but you will see hundreds of reports from nofappers that their morning woods only returned once they started nofap. It may be anecdotal evidence but its strong evidence regardless. Porn will cause erectile dysfunction. Funny how you ignored the rest of my post. Have you ever had sex before? If you're a chronic porn user you're gonna regret not listening to us when you cant satisfy your partner.

You're a pathetic cuck.

You feel unmotivated because fapping to porn causes dopamine down-regulation. This is fact.

I was a chronic porn user but oddly enough my sex problem wasnt ED its I cant cum. The girl is totally spent and I'm not even close.

I thought it was bs but I'm now on day 32 of no PMO. During the past 4 days, I've had 6 people commenting on how clear my eyes now look and that I suddenly have a nice healthy glow. Also, my crows feet seem to have reduced dramatically.

Hoping I reach day 90, but damn sometimes the cravings are fucking hard.

Also, morning wood has returned and my confidence level has skyrocketed. Feels good man.

I'll give you guys a clue to one of the greatest secrets of the monks.

No Fap. Stem Cells. Ketosis. Self Repair.

Most people are simply manipulative cunts with an agenda to push or puppets of manipulative cunts with an agenda to push. Here's a little maxim that everyone would benefit from living by: All things in moderation (Even moderation in moderation).

Theres like a whole website dedicated to this shit, type nofap into Google and you'll find it.

Promoting nofap = low tesosterone = cuck

>but you will see hundreds of reports from nofappers that their morning woods only returned once they started nofap

You need to abstain from fapping to get morning wood? lol low DHT confirmed.

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THIS.

That site also pushes Karezaa , ie fucking but never cumming so you don't get the dopamine tolerance. have fun with that shit

Well the physical negative effects of constant masturbation are obvious.

I can never get past the 3 week mark, and it just makes me walking around angry ready to rage at co workers for no reason. But yeah porn is disgusting and I wish I could end it.

this
people who disagree are low test and probably chug onions

>jerking off 3 times then wake up in my sleep because uncomfortable boner

It's hell. I wish I had less test. God damn hair is thinning out too. Fuck.

I had bizzare fetishes pre internet days that started manifesting before I was even 10.

That said even if the yourbrain on porn people and the nofapers are culty and arrogant. Porn is genuinely bad for you both as its an addictive behavior and in how it shapes a persons views towards women. There are actual studies to demonstrate this from legit sources and the website has them.

Here is a good starting point

pornharmsresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/Research_Hilton_Sex-Addiction-as-a-Disease_2015.pdf

This is exactly the kind of delusion I'm talking about. I wouldn't care about this nofap bullshit if it's followers didn't turn into cult like retards claiming they swear their dick grew 3 inches and girls are totally eyefucking them down (but not actually fucking them, because if you cum you lose your powers right)

What constitutes "evidence" for you?
That's a pretty vague term. There a lot of what many people would call "evidence" on this website:
yourbrainonporn.com/

hello rabbi

I know that feel bro, my hair is thinning too, that one thing that gave me a shred of confidence

The thing is going nofap and expecting results to be instantaneous is naive is fuck. After the first week you start to feel lethargic again but give yourself a month of noporn and nofap and I promise you your perspective will change. You look back thinking about idiotic it was and you start to regret the time you wasted on it. It'll actually make you want to be productive to make up for it. Nofap and noporn is like drawing a bow of your life and shooting the arrow, you will be more productive for yourself. Do it and see what you really think what your opinions are without porn and constant low testosterone. Believe me you will be a different person.

That's largely nonsense. It's like blaming a poker machine in a casino for getting an addictive personality addicted to gambling.

Also there is no evidence that porn leads to abuse of women. Amateur porn is not violent/exaggerated-it is natural, and professionally produced porn is laughably fake, even my 12 year old self knew it was fake.

Can someone explain dopamine downregulation in a simple way for a retard like me?

T. Retard who cant even do a simple google search for studies on nofap/testosterone correlation

It's called a gym. You can balance your physiology and improve how you feel 10-fold by simply lifting. It will even improve your sex drive and give you the ability to get hard on demand.

Fuck this no fap shit in the ass. Do you even lift bro?

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source?

Thats nice for you but that dosesnt prove anything

goys are too stupid to look at research Im guessing

>someone posted something on Jow Forums, it must be true

>no source
Apparently nothing

the Patrician way

>Humans are addicted to looking at sexy women
Really jogs that noggin

>That's largely nonsense. It's like blaming a poker machine in a casino for getting an addictive personality addicted to gambling.
"Heroin and tobacco aren't addictive its just a total coincidence that their users happen to have highly addictive personalities"

>Also there is no evidence that porn leads to abuse of women.
Nice strawmaning no where did I say that porn leads to the abuse of women. Just incase you change some arguments here are some studies proving you wrong.

tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224499.2016.1142496?journalCode=hjsr20

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26951609

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26585169

See

I dont like people spouting unscientific things. It would be the same as if there was an opinion that listening to someone else playing an instrument is degenerate. You have to listen to instrument that you are playing yourself. That would be idiotic, right

>no source

>Every post on 4chna is true, guys

That study isnt about porn

youre addicted to fappng to a screen. you really wont know the difference until you stop doing it. i encourage you to stop fapping and seeing porn for a month. if porn is harmless and youre not addicted then youre not going to have any problems.... lol

>no evidence.
The realty of that situation would be people watching other scenes and not the same one. You might as well say that having regular sex with your wife will get boring and fetishes will arise from marital sex.

No, it's stupid, you won't suddenly like scat because you fapped to vanilla porn 5 times. Let me put it this way, it's like food and spicing, you might change it up, or find something new that you like, but you won't dislike one meal after eating it too much.

Don't indulge in alcohol or tasty food for a month, if you're not addicted you won't have any problems ;)

>The purpose of this study is to gain understanding of the relationship between ejaculation and serum testosterone level in men. The serum testosterone concentrations of 28 volunteers were investigated daily during abstinence periods after ejaculation for two phases. The authors found that the fluctuations of testosterone levels from the 2nd to 5th day of abstinence were minimal. On the 7th day of abstinence, however, a clear peak of serum testosterone appeared, reaching 145.7% of the baseline ( P < 0.01). No regular fluctuation was observed following continuous abstinence after the peak.

>I feel great after watching those two strangers fuck!

Said no person ever you cuckold.

>tfw fapped for two or three times daily for past 10 years and I still get the odd boner at that hot girl in public
Here, "evidence" on my part, it's complete bullshit, those people probably already had problems getting it up, and just blame it on porn. Of course if don't release for extended period of time you will get hornier, but that's just your mind telling you stop being retarded.

Lifting gives you a testosterone boost and can get you more activate. But masturbating in general is a dishonorable and humiliating thing. Look at yourself in the mirror next time you do it and just look at how pathetic you are. This is what pornstars do for a living! Nofap fixes your attitude and you become more rational and less self involved lifting doesn't do that for you. Stop training your brain that you body is the beginning and end of all pleasure your body is a tool for the mind intellectual pleasures are the only decent thing to really enjoy. Sensual pleasures should be experienced lightly and within a loving relationship where friendship means more than lust. Be decent.