BTFO pol

>Almost no one had a car
>Food shortages like pic related
>Mass immigration to the US
>No anesthesia in dentists
youtu.be/XOkfTxPyEPA

Life in the USSR was more boring, generally more poor and more oppressed than in the US and a lot of other countries.
The GDP and this food supply bullshit, which might not even be legit, is irrelevant.

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I literally lived through that shit. There are only two types of communist left alive: trolls, and people that are too dumb to be left alive. There is the situation in Venezuela _right now_, and these fuckers have their heads so far up their own asses they won't believe their lying eyes.

The only thing that will change a communist retard's mind is a bullet to the head.

>I was born in 1989, I literally lived through gommunism, it was horrible
kys

Then why did they have to gun people down if they tried to leave?

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Kek

They will blame it on "Western propaganda" because BASED NAZBOL GANG IS SO BASED GANG GANG I WANT STALINS DICK IN MY MOUTH!

>go from one grain of rice to two
100% GROWTH WHAT A PARADISE
Should have razed your country to the ground, kraut.

Plus he forgets that even if they did have loads of food, their distribution of said food was terrible. It doesn't matter how much you produce if you can't get it to the people who actually need it.

Loser couldn't refute any of my points yesterday so he's back again for more BS

Pathetic clown.

No one was beating down the door to enter the evil empire

Yugoslavia was part of the marshal plan, thanks to that they only needed few years to get everything back running while in Russia there were war torn buildings up to 60s

Just LOL @ all these people online who talk about how bad life was under communism. Nigga that was 29 years ago. Were you even alive? Mufuggin boomers on Jow Forums man! The meme really is true! LMAO

Nazbol GANG GANG GANG

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Daily reminder that socialism definitely functions but only doesn't in the sense that neighboring capitalist countries will outgrow you.

We are minute 1 in a grand RTS and socialism is end-game viable only.

My mother lived in satellite Poland, it was pretty shit

I see a lot of memes about starving etc but I don't understand one thing. Poland had to become communistic when it was betrayed by the West and given to Stalin, but no one was starving. There weren't homeless people, everyone had to work. Now when Poland isn't communist we have more starving people. Not only the homeless starve, but also the ones who work, which is something which didn't happen when Poland was under communists' influence.

People in Iron Curtain lived better than you dipshit.

A citizen of the Iron Curtain got his own house/apartment/land, a young virgin wife, got to have many kids and pass on his genes, worked less than 40 hours a week, and it was all white people.

A modern worker in a capitalist country like America, could work 40 hours a week, and barely be able to afford a 1-room apartment, and be a fucking incel, or MAYBE date some used-up slut with HPV who will eventually divorce and take the kids + alimony + child-support if you ever actually got married and had kids.

But sure, capitalism isn't the problem.

Capitalism is great.

I am not hoxhaist, but the lies about Stalin are ridiculous.BAzilion deaths?
Soviet UNion actualy had insane population growth mainly because people had good lives and felt secure for the future

When Stalin took power RUssia was destroyed from civi war and had iliterate population, Stalin industrialised the nation, removed iliteracy and electrified the nation. Soviet Union had awesome science, good healthcare, amazing industry, was creating cars, televisors and other goods.Stalin was awesome

BEcame second largest economy in the world
Iliteracy was removed
NAtion was inudstrialised, started creating onw awesome everthyng, from cars to computers
HAd awesome science
HAd good healtcare
Had young population duo to awesome population growth.

ANd there were no bad things about latter Soviet Union during Stalin. No bread lines, no alchocolism, not trying to get away from it and things like that. People were actualy tryin to move to Soviet Union
genealogia.fi/emi/art/article237e.htm

he posted it again
you better start believing in slide threads, faggots. Youre in one

Ask anyone who lived in a communist country how it was living there and they'll all tell you the same thing it was shit

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Yes, they are shitholes now that we have American/German capitalism, it wasn't during Communism, but still Russia isn't Commies right now, they are poor capitalists and Mexico is bigger shithole than any ex-Soviet country.

pretty much capitalism is shit and everything about it is shit and exploitation + importation of migrants to destroy everything also visibly. Every turn of corner during Communism was better than billionaire's corner these days in capitalism. Not only by race, also by clean nature, by less degeneracy and overall culture. GDP being higher and economic growth of some Mexican fatasss who owns telephone company being higher and as result country being evaluated higher, won't make anything being build or improven in country.

We have more crime now when in past crime was considered lesser things, nowadays junkies making noise isn't considered crime and small car crashes aren't considered crime and migrants aren't considered a crime and cheating isn't considered crime and being drunk on streets isn't considered crime and screaming at night isn't considered crime and still we have now more crime than during Socialism. That being said we have less crime than most countries on planet, mainly because we were in Socialism and this good behavior stuck with us.

Lmao maybe you should stop swallowing communist propaganda. Soviet Union and its satellites were a fucking mess. There was not even enough food in stores, housing was shit if you got an apartment you had to share it with your family grandfather and grandmother or another family. Just watch chekist or tak zhit nelzya.

Mexico is not white you fucking retard. Of course whites will run any system better than shitskins just look at Venezuela.

How come Spain is richer today when it was poorer than the Baltics? Hmmm

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T. Leftwing retard who can’t name a single shitty socialist country he’d want to live in

You guys are the biggest retards on the planet. Just accept that you and your friends are all losers either big egos who can’t run businesses but like to think of yourselves as great people

Convince me why Lithuania should not go back to communism?
sure things were not perfect but our birth rate was sky high! and our population peaked before it ended! The population was almost 4 million now it is less then 3 million in a short amount of time! Our birth rate has fell, and things don't look to be getting better! we have more deaths then births and to add more damage a lot of wage cuck emigration to western europe!
We are still poor and even if we were rich so what? there is more to life then being rich, the weathiest countries are those with the lowest birth rates other then religiously insane countries, saudi arabia, israel, so i see the only choice is going back to communism and creating the ussr or becoming far right wing christians or something which is unlikely, the right wing won't rise either because we are cucks and never vote right wing! the only way is communism it has been proven before! I think the globalists ended the ussr in the first place! Lithuania benefited greatly from the ussr for sure more then they gained from the eu who in reality are destroying lithuania. p.s. I am not a communist I would prefer national socialism but sadly that is not possible because hitler was a dumbass and ruined that ideology, at least communism still exists today, it is the only way for lithuania.

My coworkers said it was amazing and only mentioned the good things about it. They were telling me that everyone had to work and those who wouldn't, they would be forced. The pay was shit, but they didn't mind it since they lived happily.
Funny thing is that Lithuania, like other Baltic countries, was the most richest country in the USSR.

>her grandmother obv lived most of her life in USSR
>says "everything was better in USSR
>streets were safe at night
>everyone got an education
>everyone had a job
>everyone got healthcare
>says she misses USSR and everything's shit now

>gdp so shit that any amount of growth is seen as high
>ignores the fact that only a moron would have wanted to live in the ussr over the USA, which is why everyone wen the other way

Why do leftwing retards even come here? Nobody is stupid enough to believe humans are equal, only you

>get assraped by shitcoin markets
>get assraped by stock markets
>get assraped by housing markets
>get assraped by demographic replacement
>get assraped by pension scams
>get assraped by taxes
>get assraped by job markets
>get assraped by divorce laws
>get assraped by student loans

the crapitalist system makes the Soviet system look like utopia in comparison

>free stable housing
>free and awesome education
>guaranteed stable jobs
>guaranteed stable pension at 50yrs
>no yiddish stock market tricks
>no shitcoin scams
>no housing scams
>no taxes
>no divorce laws
>no demographic replacement

i want USSR back!

Because that system was shit and not sustainable that is why people rose up and overthrew it. People hate communism here more than nazism so get fucked brainlet.

yep same here
my grandparents loved it , but not for the reasons you might think .
a communist society was made out of three types
1.party members
2.smart lower class
3.dumb lower class
i dont know much about the party members , though i know that they werent being punished for minor crimes (my grandpa was a cop)
but the lower class is where the interesting shit is. i will use my grandparents both from my mother's and my father's side . they both had same opportunities and equal wage , both worked crappy jobs , yet their financial difference was huge
grandparent's from my mother's side were into dark shit , meaning that they were part of the huge mechanism that was black market , about 50 percent of shit that was stored in their house was either bought from black market or was bought with money which they got from black market . using corruption they have managed to get a flat , 2 houses on the country side and the newest cars .
meanwhile father's parents werent capitalizing from the systems flaws and all they had was a flat and a car which was given by the state .
so basically there was a shadow capitalism in the most anti-capitalist country . people loved because they had an easy access to this and no one could stop it , cops werent giving a single shit about it ,you could bribe them with meat or sausages . that was the reason why USSR economy went to shit
now only the chosen ones get to be corrupted
in short people loved communism not because of the system but because of how shit it was

everyone who says that communism is bad is a retard. my coworker lived in the good old UdSSR and always praised it. people worked for themselves and traded their goods for other goods. everyone was able to get a house or food. people even built their own streets. small communities where formed where people helped each other and provided themselves with everything they needed. no need for welfare. these spoiled niggers, who think that their so called "democracy" is better, don't know what real work is, they don't know what it means to help other people, these fuckers need money to buy some useless shit that doesn't even provide something useful for themselves. hurhurhur communism is bad hurrhurr democracy is good hurhur let's pay 1000 dollars for some useless shit and then complain that we don't get enough money for sitting on our asses and doing nothing hurhurr ...
btfo you democracy loving brainwashed shitheads

Kek

Oh look, another genuinely retarded commie
Voluntarily working for people isn’t exploitation you utter moron. Fuck off back to where you came from if you are literally so retarded that you need other people to provide everything for you

Look at Russia. Look at the community. Look at the culture. Look at the freedom. Look at the women. Beautiful feminine women are so common that they have to compete for even the ugliest men.

Compare this to America where you all you see is depressed, awkward and paranoid robots walking around with headphones in too avoid contact.

The other thing people in Russia forgot, because of the 90s, and outside former USSR nobody really knew is that contrary to what propaganda says, the life was getting better in USSR until about 1989. Literally every years the life was improving. The collapse started in 1989 in my neck of the woods. It was rapid too. So it went from constant improvements to sudden halt. Granted, the base from which improvements were happening was low, but it was felt. And then shit all broke down on literally daily basis. The people who survived the 90s only remember the 90s. I left, on the breaking point, so I have a unique memory of leading into the collapse. It wasn't gradual and it happened after shit was visibly improving.

you didnt read what i wrote didnt you

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You mean, they make profit from exploiting their workers? The same workers that also buy the same goods and services - and ends up paying back their salary to the Capitalist that ends up with the profit?

Gods sake, this shit again? When the fuck will people see past the western propaganda? Even Romanians, the most oppressed people by the Communists, actually preferred the days of Ceausescu (at least before he went completely insane) than whats going on right now

Seriously, when will people stop demonizing the USSR as some 1984 ultra-dystopia and realize that for the average person life was pretty much okay?

Joking aside, in Soviet Russia, guaranteed employment was a right. Maybe some of it was make-work, but so what. Better than breaking windows. Better than NEETs.

you didnt read i see

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Daily reminder that East Germany had the same HDI as the US

W-Wasn't real capitalism!

>forcing goyim to read for free
this is capitalism, nothing is free. you want goyim to read your shitpost? pay up!

Here's a real-time study for you done by me in this minute. What you see in picture are houses being build during Socialism, people don't build houses much these days because salary is 1000 euro per month and if a used house from 1975 costs 200000 you can do the math. Houses cost 30 times more than in Yugoslavia, salary didn't change much. This is what capitalists call success, since GDP growth and value growth, but really nothing grew in reality, only in computers and on paper. And yes we owned 100% of houses during Socialism, we still have 75% ownership, so we sold 25% to banks. We ain't gaining anything.

The reason why Russia is that way is not because of communism or anything it is because they are Russian. American communists would be even bigger faggot lovers than USA now, just look who actually promote it... The only decent USA people are suburban and rural people and that is not because they are communists.

lol, leftwing retards at their downy. Not only is none of that even remotely true you have completely taken the concept of personal responsibility out of the equation. Why should leftwing retards like you get indoctrinated at some lefty university and I have to be forced to pay for it

>I want ussr back

You’re a retarded little teenage with no fucking idea what you’re talking about

Just look how much of a moron you are, it’s pathetic. You can’t even name a shitty socialist country you’d want to live, all you leftwing faggots can do is get together, suck each other’s dicks, and repeatedly post the same obviously retarded propaganda that nobody buys. Your propaganda is as much of a failure as you are. Explain to me why people risked their lives getting away from your shitty system? Oh that’s right, you can’t do you’ll avoid it again. I would kill all of you cunts if I ever got the opportunity

I want communism back, I miss the DDR.

The Wall:
Sure, it was hard to get out but even harder to get in. No Muslims, no rapefugees.

Economy:
Sure, there weren't 60 different kinds of chocolate available but there was also no unemployment and people helped each other out instead of trying to bring each other down.

Patriotism:
Sure, we were occupied by the Russians in a way, but patriotism was still encouraged and no one promoted racial and cultural suicide.

Culture:
Poisonous American culture was mostly kept out of the country. No McDonalds, no Hollywood, no SJW degeneracy. The DDR was undeniably GERMAN. Not American degenerate race mixed brown-black Hollywood Niggers working at McDonalds, ads with trannies and queers.

Religion:
Was hard, I admit that. But being a Christian in the DDR was still easier than being a Christian today in a SJW shit hole that is increasingly becoming Americanized. Sure, we don't have gay "marriage" in Germany yet, but it's just a matter of time until we are like the US where you commit a crime if you don't bake those gays their fucking cake.

Downside:
The surveillance was shit, of course. Secret police and everything. But we have the same today. With NSA, CIA, FBI whoever watching. And don't you dare to say a wrong word about feminists or refugees! We arguably have less freedom of speech today.

Also:
The part of Germany that was communist is the part now, were 30.000 people march through the streets to rally against Merkel, mass-immigration, against the Islamization adn the Americanization of Germany. It's the part of PEGIDA, LEGIDA, Björn Höcke, people in Heidenau literally attacking the refugee-protecting police at night and then hiding in their neighbor's houses. West Germany is the "Refugees Welcome" SJW part.

50 years of Soviet occupation has obviously done less damage than 50 years (and counting) of American occupation.

Funny how they can never answer this kek

Left-Wing retards can suck my dick, that's all i'm gonna say, my flag says it all.

>he will go back to /leftiepol/ and call this a victory

You know that you fucking jews bought up all of out state companies after 1989 for a few cents and destroyed them on purpose? The only good thing after 50 years of communism was that Romania produced everything it needed and was self-sufficient. Today it‘s just a self-service restaurant for you kikes.
I see no difference between kikes and westerners.

Something was needed something to justify Yeltsin's coup and his subsequent (((CIA)))-sponsored "Shock Therapy" dictatorship. "It's for your own good" is the oldest trick in the book.

Problems begun in 1988, when Gorbachev granted to his supporters (corrupt Soviet bureaucracy) too much power (via free market reforms) and they abused it immensely. But it wasn't as bad, as what followed. When Gorbachev's attempt at introducing dictatorship to USSR failed, Yeltsin took over and then the real shortages begun.

Something like 95% of the "empty shelves" pictures were actually made not during USSR (practically all of those 5% were made during last years of USSR), but later - when Yeltsin was in charge.

I've even seen pictures from late 90s-early 00s presented as "authentic pictures from USSR".

>be lithuanian , ex-soviet
>talk how USSR economics were bowed to fuck up
>some western mutt says that i am spewing propoganda
USSR fell , why , shit economic system and little to no foreign trade and a massive black market that no country had or has today. china knew how shit will go down if they dont open their market and accept capitalist reforms , many experts suggested that if USSR would have done the same it would still be around .

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you left fags gave a lot of copy pasta saved

I am genuinely startled by the lack of knowledge of - and I admit I am being perhaps a bit nasty & hasty here - what seems to me to be young Americans when it comes to the Soviet Union. Questions like "was there money" and so on. This is not the first time I have seen these people have wild and crazy misconceptions about the place.

it was a preddy gud, going by these internet comments I'm talking about, you'd think it was something straight out of 1984 with its uniform, non-descript, singular mass of barely-people rather than a vast nation comprising millions of individuals.

Like, it gets distilled into a startlingly inaccurate caricature, sort of reminiscent of the treatment alien races get in sci-fi shows - they all look and act and are the same and their world is pretty monolithic for all intents and purposes (whereas our heroes are all different). Bewildering stuff.

The very basic principles of the economy in USSR or the socialist bloc worked virtually exactly the same as in today's economy. I'm talking the lowest possible level, you work for an entity providing goods and services, you get paid, you exchange money for goods and services to another entity providing them. Ta-da. I hate to go into this wordplay bullshit but there was no 'communism' going on, it was all 'socialism'. (inb4 'real communism', that's not the point here, it's shit either way)

Of course, the higher you go in the economic system, the differences become much greater - such as the non-existent or extremely limited possibilities of private enterprise, the entities in question being state-owned, the direction of these being a top-to-bottom plan with limited (if any) feedback from the market and actual needs. Furthermore common services such as rent and utilities were heavily subsidized (and state/municipality-run).

sage

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fug meant for

Jugoslavija- a functioning Socialist state until CIA sabotaged it

>Free healthcare
>Very good healthcare to the extent that people from France, Germany and UK were flying over for operations and procedures.
>Free education
>Brilliant "arts thinkers" and science programmes so advance, they sold rocket technology to both the Russians and Americans
>Free housing
>Comfy and roomy homes easily capable of withstanding the schizophrenic weather that the Balkans endures (freezing winters, boiling summers)
>Comprehensive transport links
>You want to go to the coast? Jump on a train. Need to see your girlfriend's parents in another state? Smooth roads linking city to city.
>Full employment
>Work weighing you down? Enjoy more mandated leave than most countries in Western Europe
>Worried about overbearing external influences?
>Don't worry. Tito is playing both the Yanks and the Ruskies.
>SUCCESSFULLY

America deliberately destroyed Yugoslavia. Read "To Kill a Nation: The Attack on Yugoslavia" by Michael Parenti, or listen to him.

youtube.com/watch?v=ApaMIJiOt-c

You don't even seem to understand the reason there was little to no food. It's because of the break in supply and demand due to the fact that the price-profit link wasn't there. This is a specific feature of government industries. This issue is not a capitalist problem because profit increases supply. You ignore the entire concept just to praise the USSR without understanding the underlying reason communism fails.

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No you complete retard, voluntarily providing people with a job is not exploiting them is it? That would require forcing them to work for the state like they do in socialist societies. It’s ok though, you don’t understand the concept of personal responsibility because you’re a child. Hopefully when you and your faggy friends grow up you might start thinking like adults. Maybe you’ll all start a business together and pay “fair wages” instead of the market value

To be honest, the commies weren't bullshitting when they said they were looking out to improve the conditions of our people. Democracy is flawed in the sense that every 4 years our gov can change completely and grand infrastructure projects usually take more than 4 years to complete.

Don't believe the bullshit about lack of food or whatever.

>The very basic principles of the economy in USSR or the socialist bloc worked virtually exactly the same as in today's economy.
no fucking european country has such a black market and corruption as USSR
for fuck sake read thisyou could become a millionaire selling shit in black market , fuck ton of westerners came here to sell jeans , bananas and trade them for AK-47 which was really easy to steal back then

i am a country salesman. i am offering you two countries to choose from:

Option A:
>expensive (shit quality) housing at risk of bubbles
>expensive (poojeet quality) medical care
>expensive (yiddish quality) education
>unstable jobs that are hard to come by where you will be replaced by poojeet and pablo
>retirement at 75 that barely covers costs
>unstable speculative-bubble based economy
>houses that you never own cos mortgage/property taxes
>anti-family social system that produces broken families and declining population
>bullshit ponzi pyramid scheme economy producing worthless shit and welfare gigs to the privileged minorities
>open immigration to replace you
>ritual sacrifice and abramic moloch worshipping
>rampant crime and high murder rates

Option B:
>free quality housing
>free quality education
>free quality medical care
>guaranteed jobs
>guaranteed pension at 50 that covers all costs and allows you to live comfortably
>traditional family-oriented society that promotes family and reproduction
>closed immigration (Iron Curtain) not allowing foreigners to replace you
>abolish moloch worshipping and ritual sacrifice
>focusing society on curing all diseases and space colonization

so which will you move to?

yet it failed , what gives ?

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No, that’s as retarded as communism

>I see no difference between kikes and westerners

Because you’re a retarded communist. This is why you have no friends and nobody takes you seriously

It doesn't matter how much the commies wanted to help people. The underlying mechanisms are what fails you fucking retard. This is what I'm pointing out but you completely ignore because it doesn't fit your retarded narrative.

Grew up in communist Poland(born in 79).
Food was good,streets were clean, crime was no-existan.Schools had nurse that looked after health of the children.
Everyone had a job and you could go on long holidays(at least two weeks) that were paid by your company in mountain or sea health spa.

It really was breddy good.

Option C:
>be fascist
>no gay gommies
>no capitalist kikes
>everyone is driving cool volkswagen

If Joseph Stain ""hated Christianity"" why did he re-open Orthodox churches during WW2 and actually construct Orthodox churches for occupation troops in postwar Germany?

So the fact that stalin admired tsar ivan the terrible and rebuilt churches

Stalin feared the Orthodox church, which coronated the Tsar and controlled the minds of the uneducated peasants, would overthrow the fledgling Soviet republic.

Going to church was never made illegal. Freedom of religion was constitutionally protected

> wild facts by soviet economists appear

reason.com/archives/1990/05/01/soviet-suicide-plan

>Shmelev and Popov's description of the Soviet economy exposes mainstream Western assessments as little more than fairy tales. They devote a chapter of their book to the falsification and distortion of statistical data in the Soviet Union, which they contend still occurs today. The revelation that ""for three decades, from the end of the 1920s through the end of the 1950s, statistical distortions were so great that even the ordinal numbers were altered,"" implies that even assessments by conservative Western experts skeptical of Soviet success, such as the late G. Warren Nutter, give an optimistic rendition of Soviet economic performance."

truthjusticejoshway.wordpress.com/2013/11/30/the-turning-point-by-shmelev-popov/

>It was estimated 3-4 million people starved to death in 1933 during the Soviet Union’s “industrialization” phase.

>Per capita USSR national income was about 50% of the American level while average per capital consumption of goods and services was estimated at 30-40% of the American level.

>The World Health Organization concluded the average national child mortality level was about twice as high as the United States.

>102 cities with a combined population of 50 million people contained air pollution 10 times beyond the permissible norm.

> EVEN
> THE
> ORDINAL
> NUMBERS

>be gommie
>what is black market
yeah okay

I’ll move to you’re utterly fake strawman that doesn’t exit and disingenuously makes your side seem like a utopia, even though people risk their lives to get away from it and you’ll never address this because you’re a delusional retard who will never make anything of himself and so has to propose a system whereby we’re all held back to your standards so you don’t get angry because everyone’s doing better than you

Have you ever considered not being a loser?

USSR and Iron Curtain was like Ghaddafi Libya... and you know what the CIA did to them...

There is no electricity bill in Libya; electricity is free for all its citizens.
There is no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at zero percent interest by law.
Having a home considered a human right in Libya.
All newlyweds in Libya receive $60,000 dinar (U.S.$50,000) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family.
Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25 percent of Libyans were literate. Today, the figure is 83 percent.
Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to kickstart their farms are all for free.
If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need, the government funds them to go abroad, for it is not only paid for, but they get a U.S.$2,300/month for accommodation and car allowance.
If a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidizes 50 percent of the price.
The price of petrol in Libya is $0.14 per liter.
Libya has no external debt and its reserves amounting to $150 billion are now frozen globally.
If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession, as if he or she is employed, until employment is found.
A portion of every Libyan oil sale is credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens.
A mother who gives birth to a child receive U.S.$5,000.
40 loaves of bread in Libya costs $0.15.
25 percent of Libyans have a university degree.
Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project, known as the Great Manmade River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country.

True. East Germany is the litmus test. Would you rather live in white, traditional, Jew-hating 1970s socialist East Germany or brown, homosexual, Jew loving 2018 capitalist Germany?

Please stop pasting this shit everywhere you fag.
archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/People in Iron Curtain lived better than you dipshit./

Everything was free in communist Poland: government was giving flats for free, kindergarten were free of charge, mothers didn't have to work at all for 4 years after giving a birth, there was no unemployment, everybody had a job, even if he didn't want it, jobs were not only easy to get but light, not hard like today, people worked without stress, workers could even drink alcohol in workplace. That's why we had a lot of children, because we didn't have to care how to feed them, we didn't have to worry about losing job. Everything back then was so clean, smart and humanist, no degeneracy, no drugs, no emigration to the West, no prostitution, FUCK WE LITERALLY LOST PARADISE!

Fuck, dude, you must understand that soviet economy was completely isolated from western economy. It was not possible to translate value of our economy to dllar. The fact is that back then in communist Poland average Polish working class family had 3-5 children, now it is 1-2. Back then such family didnt have to worry about money , losing job or unemployment, there was no loans, no debts, no banks. Today people dont have more children because they cant afford them

>what is faking data from which the USSR was famous for

you are either lefty fag larping as ex-soviet or every one in your family including you were

faggot, you were 10 when the wall fell you know shit
I was in poland in 91, and it was a shithole, buildings darkened by decades of shit machinery, but bright faces full of hope, as communism was over

sage

I was with a woman who grew up in the DDR, from Schmalkalden. We were together for a little over two years.

She said it was just fine. No poverty, no bread lines, everyone knew they had a place and future. She also fondly recalled how society was more involved, that your commie block neighbors would just invite you in for coffee at any time if needed something, or that schoolmates would check on eachother if they were having trouble getting to school on time, that sort of thing.

The communist regime in east Germany actually still had strong family values and also better education in terms of "pro-family" stuff, while western education mostly focused (and still does) to push in mostly useless shit into the heads of the people. They had more "social stuff" in the east.

Since the destruction of the family values started around the 1960s for the west, this did start in the 1990s for the east. This means there is an entire generation between western and eastern Germany where the people in the west were already nurtured by liberal ideas partnered with low investment parenting, creating these uber cucks we call "males" today. Estern Germany (and eastern Europe) is basically one entire Generation away from that (maybe a bit longer even). The current crisis however helps in slowing down that process, meaning especially the eastern parts will be redpilled for a longer period of time.

The Soviets were actually less destructive of German culture in East Germany than Americans were in West Germany. Soviets just preserved existing German institutions and pretty seamlessly integrated them into the Soviet system. East Germans were never really taught to hate themselves. Western denazification on the other hand instituted a campaign of cultural decimation and psychological brutality on an unprecedented level.
America has always been the primary evil empire.

you are still not address my point about black markets nigger

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of course, it is no niggers or jews there.

>Fuck, dude, you must understand that soviet economy was completely isolated from western economy. It was not possible to translate value of our economy to dllar.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

how did you end in the USA?

Poland, similary to Eastern Germany, was quite well off during communism

Food, in Poland, was plentiful and quite good.Meat,bread, eggs, apples,carrots,milk,vegetables-all of this was of excellent quality and cheap.No chemical stuff like today in the West.
Jungle monkey food like bananas and coconuts were never popular cuz European White cunt, they were usually imported in Christmas, tho.
Basic clothing was no problem.But jeans, anything more was considered luxury.
At the end of 80s they was a economic crisis and things like lipstick or Playboy magazine became very expensive.

yep i knew i saw this copy pastas somewhere

East Germany was a good place. Even Hitler would have liked it (unlike west Germany that was Americanized garbage heap).

>The USA portrayal of the eastern block was either over-saturated or totally false.
>People back then were far more happier than are today.
>Optimism was ever present, even if the individual families had less access to luxuries.
>People genuinely believed that the future will see humanity grow and expand.
>The people were far more traditionalist when it comes to social freedoms.
>Not sure if that was only for the best, but the young were encouraged to get educated, motivated and being active.
>Public displays of affection between teenagers did not really happened.
>Families were larger and more strongly held together.
>Back in the day we were numbering 9 million people, after the things went sour about 2-3 million fled.
>As for persecution, never heard of it.
>We were told to stay in line or else, but that else was never shown.
>Jungle monkey shit like coconuts, bananas and various other ape foods were far and few between.
>Food was abundant and locally produced, having little to no preservantes in it.

Booooy, sure would like to live in a socialist utopia like Venezuela with it's abundance of food

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bread tasted like shit , ice cream tasted like piss , if communism was so good our parents wouldnt have needed to get their asses into corruption

Funny because starvation was basically a national pastime of Russia/USSR since the russian revolution and youre trying to say that after 40 odd years of eating dirt food production went up so USSR is suddenly great guys!

What a fucking joke, meanwhile everytime people bring up the metrics showing how bad the USSR was you will be the first to scream and shout "Not real communism!!!!"