Best book to start with nietzsche?

Have in mind, even if you wont understand his oeuvre, that he was a cuck, a whore fucker, a whiny faggot and finally died in madness, probably syphilitic.

I feel like the more philosophy I read, the more I just hate it all. If people really had something important to part, wouldn't they just out and say it plain? I don't know. I guess I just don't appreciate the art of it all. I am more inclined toward technical manuals.

How was Nietzsche wrong on christian morality, though?

when it comes to writing about philosophy, philosophers are pretty much slaves to the wage, as it were, about the kind of prose and the choice of airy vocabulary that writings about philosophy invariably warrant as a function of precedence
like how news articles and consumer magazine articles are written, it's a very specific style and is only found in those catagories and is the only style that works for them

They do have to make a living after all. I suppose a five page pamphlet just wouldn't do.

NIetzsche's appreciation of Christianity isn't as unequivocally condemnatory as sometimes is portrayed.

He was highly appreciative of the way Catholicism developed in Spain, Portugal, Italy and South of France for example.

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From what I gathered it's not the christianity itself that he condemns (unlike most modern atheists) but the part of christian morality that encourages submissiveness, victim mentality and contemplative life.
My interpretation is that christianity is fine as long is encourages expansion and conquest (like colonialism and crusades) but it becomes a problem when it's more like modern christianity. But I'm not an expert on Nietzsche so I might be wrong.

I don't think he's 100% right or wrong about Christianity, but when I look at the state of the white world, scathing critiques of Christianity aren't necessary or helpful for solving our problems.

Nietzsche lived in an academic bubble and never lived to witness the World Wars, the creation of the United Nations, or the reverse invasion of Europe by their former colonies.

It's not the lack of christianity that caused our modern problems but the fact what replaced christianity (first liberalism and the socialism) was even worse. Then we had fascism which could potentially evolve into something good but Mussolini got crushed by the other two ideologies thanks to his incompetence and Hitler sperging out.
When Nietzsche was writing his books the christianity was already dead and the doctrine of liberalism (honestly just a christianity without god and more bullshit) was a dominant one and the most deadly branch of socialism was just evolving. There was no hope at this point so you might as well attack the christianity and advocate going back to ancient values.

THUS SPAKE YOU DUMB NIGGER

Mike?

>christianity was already dead and the doctrine of liberalism (honestly just a christianity without god and more bullshit)

This. Liberals adhere to the teachings of Christ to some degree. Turn the other check, tolerate everything, love everyone. Church and priest was replaced with University and professor. God and divinity was essentially erased. Follow the dogma or you are a heretic.

The World as Will and Representation

Thus Spoke Zarathustra

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Agree. Evola witnessed all of this first hand, which makes him a more essential Jow Forums writer imo.

Can you translate to American please my Slavic friend?

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>wouldn't they just out and say it plain?

Like Jesus did ?
Often things have to be written, especially in german because of its accuracy.
Scriptures is a different way of communication, on the practice sure, but overall on the way we humans assimilate information.

Fun fact, during medieval times monks or rich merchants read out loud, and with the print revolution and democratisation of books people started to realise that reading that way coul be annoying in libraries, we've been taught to read silently.

What do you guys think about EM Cioran?

Nietzsche's system by Richardson

If you want to read him yourself and decipher his lunatic scrawlings then go with the Birth of Tragedy, The Genealogy of Morals, and Beyond Good and Evil.

There is something to him yes and he is worth reading but his style is terrible and he doesn't really give arguments for his assertions (except for in the Genealogy with is his closest work to real philosophy)

Also, you can never be a leftist if you fully understand slave morality. His insights into the emergence of ethical intuitions are spot on.

-Phil PhD student who did work on N.

For me, Zarathustra was hard to understand without ‘The Geneaology of Morals’.

Read ‘The Geneaology of Morals’ first.

beyond good and evil and realize that you are just an edgy teenager
>inb4 commie flag