Do libertarians/AnCaps revert when their house is on fire? Or do they complain that the people putting the fire out are evil statesmen who are stealing your income?
Civilised society is formed when a group of ascended people want to peacefully co-exist together and help each other out. We do this by paying taxes to fund services that benefit the community, like the fire department. Or would you rather pay a subscription fee to a private fire department company instead?
AnCaps are just as bad and retarded as commies. Paying taxes is the price to pay to live among civilised people. If you don't like that go live in the jungle with the niggers.
>Do libertarians/AnCaps revert when their house is on fire? Or do they complain that the people putting the fire out are evil statesmen who are stealing your income? My town has an all volunteer fire department. The state has no role in it's funding.
Asher Thomas
>As of 2014, there are around 1,134,400 firefighters serving in 27,198[1] fire departments nationwide and responding to emergencies from 58,150 fire stations. Of those firefighters, 31% or 346,150 were career firefighters and 69% or 788,250 were volunteers.[2]
Majority are volunteers. So, probably doesn't matter at all.
Noah Baker
>implying this can work in huge cities
Hunter Collins
What about police? Or the justice system?
Evan Butler
Yes centralized govt systems is working so well for American cities
Ryan Bailey
Taxes are used by stupid fucksticks like you who think they know better for everyone else.
FAGGOTS like you give them plenty of ammo for their cringelording antics.
Joshua Wright
>these can't be privatized I'm not going to hold your hand, read a fucking book and watch some videos.
Leo White
How the fuck do they get their equipment then? My township has a volunteer fire department but they still get their trucks and gear from a stipend from local government
Brody Wright
We don't set our fucking houses on fire to begin with because we're not retarded. We buy fire extinguishers and prepare for emergencies beforehand, just in case a lithium battery or some other device goes apeshit.
Both of which restrict ancaps from defending their properties and person until the assailant acts first, at an opportune time of the assailant's choosing. If someone says they're going to kill you and take your daughter, no justice agent should be stopping or punishing you from killing him before he can do it while you're away at work.
Dominic Gray
there is literally no difference between paying for protection from a private fire department vs. paying for a public one through taxes. you achieve the exact same result: you pay money, someone sprays water on your house when its on fire
what a stupid fucking thread
Jayden Reed
Firefighters still put out fires, faggot
>implying a privatized police force would somehow be less corrupt >implying a judge phobia bought and paid for by the richest few would be less corrupt The current system isn't perfect but what you're suggesting is sheer lunacy.
Jonathan Mitchell
No, they're just upset that they didn't have to pay for a fire extinguishing fee before the fire fighters would come.
Blake Taylor
>known assailant warns you ahead of time before he attacks What a specific example of something that never fucking happens
Joshua Peterson
>implying people wouldn't subscribe to firefighting services
Charles Brown
>implying home insurers wouldn't disincentivize failure to carry a subscription to firefighting services
Brandon Williams
>steal a persons money >call him a hypocrite when he uses services that money is supposed to provide
Owen Butler
Prove it then faggot. They'd have to compete with other police forces, and other forms of law enforcement. Being corrupt is probably not in your best interest, because people will go find someone else to do business with.
Jaxon Young
>implying taxes aren't theft because of services that happen after the fact and which are funded by bonds whereof the taxes only barely make the interest payments
Elijah Perez
>losing the argument and just calling the person that's smarter than you and has greater vision of how economies work "autistic" here it comes
Jacob Perez
eternal reminder that the "heh wouldnt a fire fighter stand there and let your house burn if they were private and you didnt have insurance? checkmate lolbertarian" meme happens in real life in Clapistan but with PUBLIC fire fighters if the house on fire is in the wrong municipal area lmao
meanwhile no private fire service would ever do this because they'd lose customers to non-asshole competitors, unlike the state who you have to pay even if they're shit
Ian Davis
False. Nobody has agreed to co-exist. Please tell me how my money being taken from me and used to feed niggers in anyway benefits me. If I had any say in where my tax goes, and no threat of having my property stolen, then maybe you'd have a point.
Luis Evans
We have this problem too, but for (((liability))) reasons. You could have a fire house two minutes away, but because of stupid zoning you have to wait for one 40 minutes out with traffic.
Fear of jews is usually behind most of the stupid shit we have to put up with.
Jose Cooper
>sorry user, your Bronze Level fire protection only applies to small kitchen fires. Upgrade to the Silver Level (includes house fires) for the low low price of 3BTC!!
Aaron Rogers
woah, leaf actually makes a point. ancaps btfo so hard
Brandon Hernandez
Fire dept is a bad example. People locally should spend money locally as they vote and are taxed. The problem is the federal govt. If I live in Fl, why should my hard working tax dollars be redistributed to nigger slums in Detroit for people who don't want to work? If people in Detroit want to pay for the jungle then Detroit and Michigan taxpayers should foot the bill. I don't mind paying for my fire department, schools, police, etc. Just don't want to pay for other people's services nor do I expect them to pay for mine......Make sense?
Xavier Rivera
>they'd have to compete with other police forces You mean like how cable companies refuse to compete in areas dominated by other cable companies?
>Taxes are a voluntary exchange, faggot. >If you don't pay taxes we will steal your property >This benefits you goy >We protect your rights goy
Gabriel Martinez
Would you rather live in an authoritarian state? You're free to move to one.
Elijah Kelly
This so much. Why do tards think the government is a magical entity that does shit for free and there is no alternate way to get things done?
>cops suck >roads suck >the DMV sucks >but let's have the government do more shit because clearly they don't suck
What the hell?
I'm not saying that the entire concept of government is awful, I'm just saying that, for all the trillions of dollars it costs, it is not a bargain at all.
Owen Torres
if they paid their taxes they would probably urge them to work faster. just because someone forces you to pay for a service doesn't mean you refuse to claim the results of the service.
Camden Lewis
Dude, holy shit, you are too stupid to be allowed on the internet. >I-if you don't like me stealing from you go live in a place where they steal from you >Don't like your rights being violated? Go live in a place that violates your rights!
Camden Diaz
>defending Comcast Yes their business practices are totally wholesome
Ethan Nguyen
Pick related is what you are really paying for. Ancaps are retards. Libertarians just want the option of not paying or using this shitty services.
>mortgages are a voluntary exchange >if you don't pay your mortgage the bank will reclaim its property The land itself belongs to the state. You don't own shit.
Owen Jones
And yet Americans pay twice as much as other first world countries for healthcare. At the same time, healthcare costs are one of the largest causes of bankruptcy among American families.
Camden Price
Or go live on a boat in international waters. Why would you want to continue living in a society that continuously steals from you?
What's the alternative?
Justin Perry
In my town we don't pay the firemen. They do it for free. Fucking leak.
Julian Long
Here we see the communist ousting himself. GG
Levi Thomas
Do commies not buy food from a grocery store? What a stupid question.
Nolan Carter
>wanting more competition against comcast is defending comcast
>stating objective fact somehow makes me a communist >he couldn't come up with a coherent argument so he called me a commie Lmao ok kid
Matthew Cooper
>What's the alternative? Gyp the system. Fuck em. This is why full-piracy/outlaw is best. You learn to get your money back by exploiting the populace and their government.
Where do they get their gear and trucks from, retard?
>C-COME ON GUYS!! DON'T BE M-MEAN TO COMCAST! TH-THEYRE GOOD GOYS!!
Angel Baker
Until you end up getting raped in prison
Camden Baker
>we the problem is, most of u dont pay taxes. t. income and property tax payer.
Evan Butler
You've got shit reading comprehension.
Gabriel Morgan
>Or would you rather pay a subscription fee to a private fire department company instead? Yes. This is already done in some communities. Privats companies always do a better job than the government.
Christian Cook
>Lol why don't you just give us your property and go live at sea. You are so fucking stupid, dude. What are you even doing in America if you have no problem with abusive tax.
Connor Hernandez
Don't get caught. Read your opponent, plan ahead years in advance. Don't antagonize people at all. Stay under the radar but oversee the world you live in. Remember, exploiting a resource need not be harmful. Niggers and gangsters don't understand this. They don't plan. They live by making scenes. Then wonder why they end up in the pokey.
>You don't own property it is all state owned >It's not theft at all. The state owns it all, oh no, I mean the banks, oh, shit, I'm confused.
Angel Reed
You're claiming that ALL of the burden of guilt falls upon local governments and NONE of the responsibility falls upon cable companies. I read your posts just fine
Camden Johnson
>private companies always do a better job than the government Healthcare
Cooper Jones
>give up your property The land is owned by the state. You're just renting it. Open your eyes, retard.
Or do you think your impotent rage is enough to convince people to stop charging you taxes?
Henry Brown
>Do libertarians/AnCaps revert when their house is on fire? Private insurance pays for a new house for free. Ancaps would rejoice.
Julian Mitchell
The banks dont own land either It's all owned and protected by your government. You don't actually "own" anything you dip
Grayson Myers
This BTFOs the ancap eternally
All land as property was originally secured with force. The state secures the land within its borders with force, therefore it is technically property of the state. Luckily they won't charge you rent if you can't afford it.
Charles Scott
>for free Retard
Charles Wright
I agree. get the government out of heathcare and we can go back to doctors making house calls for 30 bucks
Mason Rivera
Don't make fun of ancaps, they are functionally retarded
Colton James
t. not a home owner
fire is the easiest peril to pay out.
Robert Williams
Then why bring up mortgage and banks being able to own property, you dip.
You seem to think because X is currently in place Y can't be put in place or advocated for. The Government is supposed to exist to protect the rights of the people, not to steal from them. Why would you even care if you lived in an authoritarian state with this mindset.
>he thinks the government is making healthcare expensive Then why do Americans pay twice as much as any other first world country? Why are so many Americans driven to bankruptcy due to medical costs?
Gabriel Myers
Historically there were subscription based fire services before there were publicly provided ones.
Without a market for a service how do you know if the public alternative is providing good value for your tax dollars?
Brayden Rivera
medicare and medicaid. same reason tuition is through the roof.
"lol free moniez?? time to up all fees lolol"
Luke Ward
I'm saying that homeowners insurance isn't free, retard
>the government isn't supposed to steal from people How does a government exist without taxes?
False, the state is a collection of people, citizens are a part of this collection and can purchase from the state (other citizens).
Jaxon Evans
>thinks the government forcing citizens to buy something won’t make companies raise prices
Literal retard.
Jason Lee
Why do i have to pay taxes for a fire department that i dont need. >but other people may need the fire department When you say stuff like this youre rooting for the commies nigger.
What originally gave anyone the right to own land. It was all secured by force, not purchased.
Justin Rodriguez
I own a house, faggot. You're just screeching nonsense
Ian Adams
Firstly, my issue is with involuntary taxation. I don't want to pay for things like food-stamps for niggers, bailing companies out, etc. If there were full transparency and I had control of what my tax money is used for, there would be no problem. Secondly, the government could implement tolls, sell products/services.
