Jordan B Peterson

Venezuela it's a poster case, but it's not what we need we need to expose the pain of Incels.

I’ve not really seen him shitting on white collectivism or approving others. Generally he hates the idea of collectivism at least at the racial level.

who dislikes him? a few anons? so fucking what? he's awesome.

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Orwell would have fucking hated this faggot Peterstein

kill yourself shill rat

Because you're obviously a brainlet.

Says the memeflag

If that's all the criticism you've seen then you're choosing to not look very hard. Cultist.

From what i’ve seen though a vast majority of people on Jow Forums do genuinelly dislike him but seemingly for no logical reason other than “muh lobsturs”. The left are doomed to fail but i wouldnt have thought more right winged people on Jow Forums would be so naive.

why do you idiots insist on posting juden peterstein here

We post criticisms constantly. I’ve typed out essays repeatedly on him

I should just copy and paste it from now on

Frail faggot who ayss ckea ya roo \m.. i would curb stomp \this cuck

I get what you mean but just because it’s a poster case doesn’t deny the fact it’s stilla thing. But i do agree the whole issue around incels is a big problem

What makes you think that?

They don't have a rational answer for this question.

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Jow Forums does not dislike him. As he gained power in the real world, arguments were advanced here that he was a jew lover and not to be trusted. I wonder who was behind those posts.

There is, however, an interesting essential disagreement between the psychologist, whose central unit of measurement is the individual, and the fascist, whose central unit of measurement is the society. But I suspect this isn't behind most of the attacks.

He's become too popular which makes Jow Forums suspect he's a plant. He also does not call out the man behind a post and doesn't like white identity politics. There's your answer.

Well present some m8. I’m more than happy to view it but again i’ve not seen that much. Maybe it is my fault for not looking that hard becaus ei do quite like him but I’d still like to be provided with some valid criticism of him.

The problem with liberals is that things that are far away are easy to argue, but things that are close are impossible for them, they have no notion of daily life see anything as power struggles, in that sense the extreme right as their might makes right are identical.

Well i’d appreciate it again m8 if u like

Watch Alt hypes video on why his politics are disagreed with. If you want to find out why People associate him with anti whiteness wait for a juden Peterson general.
People also dislike him because the advice he gives is so fucking simple that the fact that people take what he says as amazing is honestly depressing. He's a father figure for white males in their teens to late 20s yet acts like everything he says spreads to a very large diverse audience.

arguable truth

>dislikes whites joint together to form a group identity
>claims Jewish over representation in positions of power across all major institutions is natural because they are so smart and talented.
>claims anyone who says otherwise is just jealous
He is entry level redpill but he is also a gatekeeper. Keeps people from going to far right and ruining kike plans. In that respect he is no different then Glenn beck, rush Limbaugh, crowder, milo, Shapiro, etc..

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Because he allows group think for every group but whites. His "radical individualism" is poison designed to destroy the rising right-wing that involves white identity

>Jow Forums is one person

I think he's great.
But alot of the naziboos on here think he's:

Say whatever you want, you're still a brainlet who can't back up his position. Cretins like you will always be worthless.

I like him, his podcasts/lectures have been interesting to listen to and he's really made me think about myself and what I should be doing.

>why Jow Forums dislikes him so much?
He's a christvuck, a Canadian, a fraud, and has literally said it isn't okay to be white
Take your pick

Jewish shill, pretty simple amigo. Anyone who preaches antiwhite/antinationalist interests, outside of the jews of course!!!, can suck a dick

i dont like that he preached how jews were the victims and slaughtering the Palestinians was based because Palestinians are oppressors.
i also dont like how he says whites need to be individuals and rely on themselves while saying jews are a collective and need to rely on each other.

also he talks about depression while taking anti depressants
hes a walking hypocrite

Yeah criticisms like that are fine and actually have basis but most of what i’ve seen just is non-sensical stuff.

What's great about him?

>In that respect he is no different then Glenn beck, rush Limbaugh, crowder, milo, Shapiro, etc..
In other words, all those people who are clearly more intelligent than you?

>He's a christvuck,
Jordan Peterson is not a Christian m8

Are this automatical?

I'm sorry if you are human but I'm hearing that a lot lately, that the people arguing for whites and non whites to be treated in identical ways are somehow mistreating whites, just because they don't say "kill all shitskins"

Surely being more popular though just means he can have a broader effect on people who would otherwise be indoctrined into lefty thinking. And yeah people tend to be fond of white identity politics on Jow Forums

Only shills dislike JP. He's unironically the best advocate for whites and males out there. He speaks the language of the left in an articulate, inoffensive way that still manages to challenge the brainwashing. He exposes how unreasonable the left really is -- for anyone willing to see it.

>Le what even is truth XD?
>Crying
>Weird dragon nonsense
>Jew-lover

>I’ve literally not seen one criticism of his work or what he says other than “lol lobster hierarchies sound dumb” and “he’s a jewish shill!!”
Yes you have you're just too fucking lazy to read
Why are Peterstein shills such fucking retards? Blacked shills aren't this stupid

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Common Fry demolished everyone on that panel and made us look great.

I’ve noticed that a lot, they seem to be so disconnected from reality it’s amazing. Like i’m from the north of england, if they tried to lecture the masses of common people in towns here they would get their heads kicked in.

Most people here love him, especially before he blew up in the UK media with that "so what you are saying is" interview. The people that hate him are just reactionary from that. Before that fame everyone here loved him. This is why we hate things like reddit invasions, distorys the disscuion with reactionary bullshit by people who weren’t here for the in-depth discussion about him that took place other months in side threads

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Which panel was this?

most haters here will say it's because he isn't "pro-white" or "anti-jewish"

for me it's because he gave me false hope that there was an answer to nihilism

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It's marxist dichotomy mixed with honest fascist desire, they saw the seat of power very close and they want it badly.

>He speaks the language of the left
That's why we hate him. He still plays within their framework, he obeys their rules. He's craven

Pol has no major problems with him other than that he espouses individualism, and such a stance only will really be received by whites. Coloured people are not individualistic, will not listen to some random prof telling them not to be individualistic, in the rare case they even listen to what he says or can comprehend it. It s an issue, but a small one considering how Peterson utterly destroys all leftist talking points with logic and facts to the point that the left cries and has mental breakdowns realizing their entire world view is a crock of shit or that they are losing the culture war. Like I said, if you are on pol long enough its VERY easy to tell who the fake polacks are. The shills are ridiculously transparent, even if they have a few friends and work together.

Never forget: we are fighting against people who generally have sub human IQ. We're talking about people so easily brainwashed they actually believe leftist bs, even as science and logic easily debunks it. We're talking sub 80 IQ retards user. These people have probably never been laid, have never accomplished anything in their lives, have no jobs and live in moms basement.

youtube.com/watch?v=1uqA58YK4Ro

You can listen to the left if you wish to, but it's nothing new.

True his audience is most probably centred around the teens-mid twenties white men, but the same could be said for Jow Forums. And yeah the advice he gives is simple and seems completely obvious to most but for some people it needs to be said and does genuinelly help them. It’s not like it’s stuff that has no effect on people.

Actually in my experience, Jow Forums is pretty supportive of anybody that helps individuals get their shit together.
It hasn't been so lopsided until seriously the past few weeks. Almost as if.......it's on purpose?

I honestly believe it's because he's being intellectually dishonest by not answering the JQ. I obvious why he won't- it would destroy his livelihood. But he talks about Alexander Solzhenitsyn all the time and that man fucking knew that the Jews were the Bolshevik insurgency that plagued Russia. The answer of who is pushing Cultural Marxism (in the media, in the colleges) is simple once you realize who is overwhelmingly overrepresented in those positions. The same people who pushed murderous Bolshevism on Europe. The West is in grave danger and not answering the question when he fucking knows is like a bystander trying to spit on a roaring fire hoping it'll help.

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vox day btfo'd him again. he really is good at exposing him

youtube.com/watch?v=5fNt9FYE5zY

the answer to nihilism is stoicism though

Nah, he's just exposing their hypocrisy from the inside. The fact that he's coming at politics from the perspective of clinical psychology is his greatest strength, because he's not interested in politics or talking points -- he's interested in the truth, as demonstrated by the scores of real people he's talked to IRL and the statistics that back up his positions.

He dislikes all forms of group identity, so it’s not really fair to say it’s just white groups identity. And when has he said that jew’s being over represented is natural because they are so smart? Like i’m not being sarcastic I do genuinelly want to know if he said it.

Jow Forums doesnt dislike him. you must be new here. low iq nubs cannot understand that he cannot name the jew. what he is doing is too important, and that topic would ruin it all. shills hate him for obvious reasons. anyone here who says they hate him for being a capitalist or not naming the jew in order to continue to wreak destruction on marxism either has a room temperature iq and doesnt get it, are being paid to shill, or are actual marxists who cannot face his arguments.

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OP read

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This.

I don't think he should answer the JQ right now. He is an asset in destroying marxism and is doing a good job. Most normies have been brainwashed for so long they cannot handle that red pill..yet. When we finish winning the current wars we can move onto the next.

As I said, READ

youtube.com/watch?v=JQHH6o9ual8&t=9s

Well a lot of Jow Forums ideology is shared amongst 90% of users, not all but enough for it to justify saying “the majority of Jow Forums“ but you are right Jow Forums isn’t one person. And yeah i like him a lot too but wouldn’t deny any real criticism someone brought. I might argue against it but if it is more convincing i’d accept it.

Also, he's a censor-happy leftist like the rest of them. He bumped Faith Goldy off a panel because muh racism.

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He agrees with race/culture integration but at the same time rejects it, like everyone does, the most popular cognitive dissonance.

Yeah exactly, a lot of his focus on religious stories changed me from being hardcore anti-religion atheist to having respect for religious stories because I view them purely on a psychological level and dont just take everything said as literal.

I agree. I hope one day he does answer it though when he has a big enough following. He's a good first step though. Just redpilled one of his followers on the JQ today on Twitter and he seemed open enough to look into it.

see

you need to read Sartre, if life is meaningless your have free reign to assign value to whatever you think will make you most successful

When has he said it isn’t okay to be white?

Jordan Peterson is a spree killing risk because of his use of SSRI medication

I don't dislike him. I think anyone that helps break the conditioning is good for us. Jow Forums doesn't like him because he's an individualist and a staunch opponent of the far right. I agree with Peterson about individualism in part. In an all White society individualism should be the goal. In modern Western nations we're getting run over by racial/ethnic groups because we don't unite around our common interests as Whites.

Still, even though he pushes an ideology that is detrimental, he still is pulling Whites away from the democrats. Whites that vote with us are the best outcome. The second best outcome is preventing Whites from voting against us.

People like Peterson, Crowder, Shapiro, Sargon, Rubin ect. are good for our side. Anyone with half a brain, once awaken from the conditioning, will move past these people when their philosophies fail to address the current needs of our people. The ones who don't move past this are just too dumb. They can keep watching Boomer 2.0 people like Shapiro and Crowder.

>Read Solzhenitsyn bucko!
>N-n-not that one!

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Orwell was a Fabian socialist.1984 was a blueprint.

WOWOWOWOWOWOW

So was George Bernard Shaw

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I’ve not heard him say that about Jewish collectivism, when was it? And yeah the whole idea behind Israel and the jews being innocent defenders of jerusualem i don’t like either. Neither the palestinians or jews hold any warrant to sway my opinion because they are both equally as dickish.

i have read them all

biblebelievers.org.au/200 YEARS.pdf

The warning signs were all over. I've watched Molyjew interview him a few times and one thing that immediately struck me is that he has the eyes of a psychopath. Not quite senpaku, but something is definitely off. This seems to come out on twitter when he threatens and berates random dissenters instead of ignoring them or giving a more measured response. Don't forget that from the start Peterson was shilling $10 personality tests to NEETs, and soon moved more absurd merchandise including the notorious $2000 signed rug. It would be one thing if he was fired over his tranny comments, but he still has his professorship that pulls in several hundred Ks a year, money he makes from speaking engagements, patreon, and monetized videos. There is also his love of giant portraits dedicated of Lenin and other communists.

He's pushing the worst aspects of aspie lolbergs circa 2013, where sole focus of all political activity is should be the individual at a time when all Western countries are being flooded with low IQ shitskins. And anyone who disagrees even mildly is a statist collectivist. Lolbergs could be forgiven for their ignorance at time, but Peterson is blatantly trying destroy any collective resistance to the globalist (((program))). I won't be surprised when a few months from now when he comes out and says “I took a DNA test and found out I'm half Ashkenazi.”

Peterson may have helped reintroduce Jung to a new generation, and helped NEETs stop fapping long enough to put on a clean pair of underwear, but as soon as their done cleaning their room, it's obvious he intends to push them into his own kosher ideology, and use them as his personal army. My theory is the Peterson made a deal with (((them))) but fully intends on going rogue once he has enough Jordaniac followers and media power. Going rogue doesn't mean he's secretly a good guy or something, it's all just to feed his messiah complex and his personal vision for the world.

>it's that fake quote again

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>reasonable

you silly goose, its always the jews

He loves jews and hates the alt right. what more is their to know? He's just another Zionist who's adept at separating evangelicals and boomers from their money.

yes i love gang weed memes

Do you really want that integration tough?

Isn't white culture one of things that destroy white culture?

I know the standard here is to blame anything else, but I saw the now fighting every inch of what white culture and white thinkers are.

I don't think Schoppenauer it's white enough for the alt right.

What’s wrong with crying? And the whole ideas behind the dragon i feel he does play on a lot and the whole paychology of the unconscious in general is very meta and barely understood but what he actually says isn’t entirely wrong when you dont view the stories literally.

Only if you read up on user brings up pretty good points. I also don't like him rallying for Individualism. That's exactly what got us into this mess. Peace time, yes, individualism is a wonderful thing. But it's a luxury item. And with the way things are right now we can't afford it.

Do you think I give a shit what a fucking memeflag thinks?

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Jow Forums hates Peterson because he doesn't 100% support all their positions.

>Using one example from the vast Soviet government
Politburo was majority Jew, NKVD was majority Jew

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>Again like what does that even mean mate? Just seems like a bunch of buzzword people theow out when they don’t like them for whatever reason. Can you explain what he does that makes him these things?

No he's mentioning terms that describe what he is, why would anyone throw out terms just for whatever reason when they could be easily challenged and refuted?

>Alt-lite CivNat anti-white honorary kike

Alt lite CivNat = Someone who is hijacking the energy of the alt right movement, and turning it into civic nationalism. Essentially niggers with maga hats. By leaving out the racial component, you end up with the destruction of your nation still, just in a slow manner.

>anti-white honorary kike

He's anti identity politics, for whites...not for jews, not for blacks, but for whites. Kike is just him being a deceptive weasel man. He's admitted that he took men away from the alt right, and said that was a good thing.

>Clean you room

Ok, but were still going to be a racial minority, niggers are still commiting crime, and shitskins ruin things. Now what? He's a dead end.

>I agree with Peterson about individualism in part. In an all White society individualism should be the goal. In modern Western nations we're getting run over by racial/ethnic groups because we don't unite around our common interests as Whites

Absolutely this. That's why his message is slightly harmful. But, he does filter people our way - whether he wants to or not.

A Schoppenauer quote to argue that it's not "white enough"

"The highest civilization and culture, apart from the ancient Hindus and Egyptians, are found exclusively among the white races; and even with many dark peoples, the ruling caste, or race, is fairer than the rest, and has, therefore, evidently immigrated, for example, the Brahmins, the Inca, and the rulers of the South Sea Islands. All this is due to the fact that necessity is the mother of invention, because those tribes that emigrated early to the north, and there gradually became white, had to develop all their intellectual powers, and invent and perfect all the arts in their struggle with need, want and misery, which in their many forms, were brought about by the climate. This they had to do in order to make up for the parsimony of nature, and out of it came their high civilization."