Why do you support capitalism?

Love how Jow Forums deflects all the criticism towards Capitalism and redirects it to some elusive invisible boogeyman with a big nose.

because it gives the highest return per unit of effort

>real capitalism hasn't been tried yet

Because it works

Because materialism was debunked by quantum physics

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Capitalism is a platonic idealism. Thus there is ideal caitalism, immaterial and perfect.
And there are phenomenal capitalisms -- each country has its own version of capitalism.

This!

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Because commies are faggots

got iPhone, don't care

Capitalism is not only immoral, it is anti moral. If you oppose degeneracy then you must hate capitalism.

Why are you here if you dont support capitalism

wut

Capitalism = talmudism. It’s very simple. The libertarian movement of america was invented by satanic zionists in order to spread degeneracy into america.

this is not a capitalist only board

Not it doesn’t. It is a system which allows parasitic slave owners to steal labor for their own hedonistic purposes.

If the first point in your image is utter bullshit the rest won’t make sense either. Capitalism isn’t about TAKING from the many and giving to the few. Money has to be earned.

Socialism IS taking by taxes or otherwise so direct theft and inequality. Go read the wealth of nations please.

you cannot be serious
you think capitalism = subsidies?
the fuck are you talking about?

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except he literally says that it was in the 70s and 80s in the post you replied to, you illiterate mongoloid

I support tribalism. The volk look out for the volk. I don't care for wide scale capitalism and consumerism and I don't care for your leftist social ideas. I'd like to see both the banker and the communist put against the same fucking wall.

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>1. The state must take wealth from many to give to the it to the few
That isn't capitalism

>2. Innovation causes job displacement has a downward effect on wages and less consumers

Wait, so the you're saying that Donald was lying to me that there about the record low unemployment and rising stock market?

>if consumers use credit things blow up, natural resources get depleted, earth is destroyed

If you want to live like an Amish, be my guest. There's a direct correlation between carbon emissions per capita and GDP. You also underestimate the power of human ingenuity. If people could use less natural resources, they would since it would save money. Our cars nowdays are much more efficient then they were a decade ago. Now most car companies are looking to make electric cars. Norway has a huge social program for that.

>Plutocracy: in order to be viable today, the capitalist system must provide corporate welfare
Corporate welfare sounds awfully similar of a different economic system based on redistribution.

>Private investors do not exist
K.
>Increased capital investment per labourer increasing the marginal productivity of labour DECREASES profits
KK.
>The problem is the state filling corporate pockets, so let's have the state take over fully
KKK.

Yes, I also support "socialist" policies such as welfare for the poor/disabled/unable to work and market regulations.

You realise you can support aspects of both socialism and capitalism right?

" steal labour "

So i build a factory; i set up business connections for resources and market a series of products that people want. I then pay you for your work according to the level of complexity and demand behind your job.

" somehow slavery "

True free market capitalism where everyone compete at the same level is good
(((Banking system))) inflated capitalism that led people to live beyond their mean though debt is bad

I don't support (((capitalism))) but I don't support (((communism))) either

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Oh yes, George Washington the Satanist.

Because this is a fascist/natsoc board

This

If ressources were to be depleted prices would skyrocket to prevebt pwoplw feom over using you dumb bitch

Wasn't Washington a freemason?

exactly, i'm against industrialism

> I then pay you for your work according to the level of complexity and demand behind your job.

And you dont see anything wrong with what you just said ?
Modern slavery is only different form the old one because it is impersonal, there's no direct link between slave owner and slave. Fiat money is the link.

Silence zionist. In order to do that you must have capital so you’re either a slave that miraclously managed to free himself or part of the slave masters since birth.

Not the same thing, and besides, America was a fundamentalist Christian country until recently

drop the welfare for the poor and give them a guaranteed job and we have a deal (yes even if its a shit job for the government and costs tax anyway at least they're doing something)
that idea actually worked here, local poor communities set up a business who gets cleaning/garden work contracts from the government and they run it all themselves

how is debt bad if you never repay it. you hang such a weight on debt, its stupid. debt is only a problem when you cant pay the interest on it

George washington wasn’t a libertarian. One of the defining characteristics for satanism is the obsession to tell lies, something which the libertarians love. The libertarian movement only came to being around the 50’s.

The main result of globalization is that workers in the west are now in competition with ultra-exploited laborers in the third world while the (financial) elites are protected by an extensive nanny state.

As a result, the conventional tools of popular activism (unions, strikes, etc.) that worked as a barrier against corporate tyranny in the past are no longer viable. If I remember correctly it was actually Adam Smith who pointed out how easily slaves take to the service of their masters because the only alternative that is being offered to them is destitution. I think the fate of the working class therefore depends on their ability to realize that they have no friends in government and that their bitter class enemies are not going to save them. Nothing else can save us from the misery of the present or the nightmare of the future.

it isn't perfect but more perfect than alternatives.

You accepted your job and pay voluntarily. It's not slavery.

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Literally nothing wrong with that. nobody works equally and nobody has the same abilities.

Giving the same to the lazy assholes who will barely work and have no unique skills is the definition of unfair.

The issue with that is there's the possibility for a abuse, we started doing this kind of thing in Australia and a lot of the time it results in what should be a normal paying job being done by someone on welfare pittance.

As far as I'm concerned 0% unemployment is neither realistic or desirable and I'd hate to be forced to work with the kinds of retards that would rather spend their days receiving welfare than actually working.

Yes it is

I don't. Both marxism and capitalism destroy nationalism in the long run. The solution is the third position, fascism.

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Fuera satanista!

In my country they give them shitty statejobs in where they do nothing/very little all day and we maintain them with our taxes.
Literally 8 million people maintain 20 million people(some of them are on welfares), it fucking sucks

How CAN it be jewry?
Facts:
- 55% of world wealth controlled by christcucks, 2% only by jews
- Only 35% of billionaires are jews
- Average jew worldwide is much poorer than average white

If it was jews, why aren't christcucks and whites - who dominate in both money and positions of power - do anything about it? Face it, it's a class issue, not a religion issue.

Explain to me how any rich socialite titty-monger works harder than literally most people. Explain how a system which rewards mere ownership of a thing in any way reflects how hard people work.

Because the elites support the opposite, socialism

Because it's the system that produces the least starvation and I like eating.
Though not for long in this morally and econimically corrupted state....

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Capitalism is great with minimal govt interference.
When people say they hate capitalism they are actually referring to government meddling in the system which has nothing to do with capitalism.

>capitalism is about taking wealth and giving it to corporations

I love how socialist cucks can't even understand capitalism. It's about making products people want and selling it to them for profit.

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The exact opposite. Nobody wants monopolies, payoffs, bribes, lies in advertisement (literal lies instead of subterfuge as we have now), big companies bullying anyone that could possibly try to compete, etc. and those are the bread and butter of free capitalism.

Because I'm probably going to be filthy rich

No, it's about getting people to give you their money. No product needed, just a promise. No need for them to want it, just trick them into thinking they do. No need to make anything, just steal it.

Outta here Marxist scum

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I don't
Jow Forums thinks socialism is bad, it's not, it's just a state that cares for his citizens and babysits them, capitalism is a system that revolves around economic exchange, and put it on a pedestal, all that do is more power to the rich, the rich don't need more power, they already are rich. I'ts just ya'll been trolled into thinking you shall support the rich, when the rich already suports himself way better than you do.

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this nigga gets it

Because it lets smart, hard working people easily (more so than any other system) get to the top based on their merits.
>but muh 90 iq factory workers
Fuck off. We should let nature do the natural selection it has always done and let the brainlets and niggers die out without welfare.

How the are no monopolies in a "true"capitalist society?

Literally the opposite of the truth. Under capitalism, the smart are exploited to death, while the underhanded gets the entire pie for themselves. CEOs at successful companies only make correct decisions (as measured counterfactually) 55% of the time, so even merit is obviously not the right measure.

No socialism is retarded
also
ECONOMIC CALCULATION PROBLEM

How the are no brains in a "true"argentinian white?

great argumet there

I was writing with one hand.
Again how are there no monopolies in a true capitalist society?

interesting from you Ukraine.
If only Paretoism was adopted instead of Marxism. I don't believe Paretoism is a thing but they were formulating their theories at the same time. There'd be more Ukrainians today.

>look user, the system is broken!
>so how about you submit to our system also devised and approved by elite kikes? :^)

Yeah nah, get fucked, anti-white, anti-male leftist SJW.

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Hunger or capitalism?
What do you choose?

I was writing.
Again how are there no brains in a true "white" argentinian?

Why won't commies name the Jew?

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Because I'm not completely ignorant of the realities of socialism/communism and I'm not some greedy fucking middle class/upper class scum who feels the need to virtue signal.

Fuera sionista!

Collectivists
Fascists.
Commies.
Nazis.
Marxists.

You are not welcome here. This is an /AnCap/ and /Libertarian/ board. We value freedom, individualism, and market logic here. We aren't for your pathetic groupthink, inability to grasp basic economics and general retardation.

I advise you all leave now and fuck off back to where you came from before you are /PhysicallyRemoved/ Hoppean style.

>*helicopter whirring in the distance*

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I betcha if you dig deep enough you find commies naming the jew, I'd swear I remember some commies naming the jew.

>nationalist collectivism and fascism are bad

Get out Peterson.

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Silense satanist. The power of juche compells you!

Marx talked a lot about how he wants to destroy jews.

remove the ethnic elements and what are you left with? a nazbol police state, no thanks

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because not all jews are capitalists and not all capitalists are jews.

Saia daqui cummie

Just leaving this here :^)

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commie naming the jew here

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/

but like this nigga said:
it's not about left or right , nazi or commie, is about a better fututre and present for ourselves and our families, shit is deep, we just gotta take out the jewish suckas

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Some deluded shit man. Seriously
Who's gonna run your gommie state? Some 'committee'?? I thought so
Fuck u, when we new age rich get in power we'll give you all the universal basic income you want. You can keep your shitty lives, the wolves are going to rule, like always

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>market logic

The logic that produced centralised states?

>Satanist arguments

>anyone who's not a cuckitalist is a commie
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As expected of Jow Forums - redd!t's Jow Forums outpost.

Short answer? Any human organization eventually grows to the point that it becomes corrupt and collapses under the weight of its own internal rot. There is no exception to this. There are any number of reasons for this, but it is a fact. Human nature makes it unavoidable. Capitalism reduces this effect somewhat. When a corporation, like Toys R Us or Woolworths, reaches that point and goes into a death spiral, it's painful for those directly involved. Employees and management lose their jobs, businesses associated with the company have to readjust, but by and large the society the company existed in survives its demise more or less unaffected. In a true Socialist system, everything is centralized. When the Socialist government collapses from the inevitable internal rot, it takes the entire society allong for the ride. Witness Venezuela, the Soviet Union and California.