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>haplomemes
Haplogroups are literally irrelevant because they are ancient DNA.Like really ancient.Like over 10.000 years old ancient.

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How that shit = European DNA?

Russia = 93 % European? lol

indeed, they are the original aryans, or should I say we are, the purest white men on earth, finns

>kosovo 81% european

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>The dutch are less white than Romania

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why would i, then it would no longer be objective?
honestly, if you exclude them, you'd probably be a bit whiter than bulgaria, which is expected.
>how the hell does austria have less european dna than serbia
maybe due to immigrants, idk, i'm not the one who did the actual research, i just drew the line of white haplos and put it on a map.
>How does Kosovo have more european dna than Greece?
probably serbian and in general slavic influence, oposed to turkish influence in greece. also, more white doesn't neccesarily equal less subhuman.
>This is retarded.
not really, it's sourced and you can easily check it. if you take more than 5 mins to research, you can see my reasoning for where i drew the line very easily too.
i don't see why would russia out of everything on this map be what stands out to you tbqh.
idk how much do immigrant populations influence and how included they are in the research, however this is pure math.

>Y dna (haplogroups)
>relevant for race

>R1b, R1a, I and so on
> european

If you wanna debate that, use autosomal PCA maps or something.

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don't they have like 600k turks and 300k gypsies? If they excluded them they'd be whiter too

The results are going to be much different if actual native populations were testes, also why isn't the J haplogroup included it's greco-roman.

>Italy
>less than 2/3 white

Jesus Christ I thought spaghetti niggers were a meme...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Austria#Immigration
it's less, tho to be fair you can easily say at least half of serbian immigrants are gypsies or lite gypsies, and i assume it's similar in other countries.
out of european nations it's mostly prevalent in turks(at least according to research), and in general nations with higher J admixture tend to be swarthier. also, it would take almost every country above 90%, making the map useless.

forgot to answer the first part,
>The results are going to be much different if actual native populations were tested
maybe in western europe(tbqh excluding italy, spain and portugal), but outside of that i doubt it.

1st. J is med haplogroup
2nd. The turks used to be a tribe from actual turkic bloodline unlike today
3d. It's not J that is making peope ''swarthy'' its non european haplogroups
So you consider Spain and Portugal less ''white''? Not really there are some mutts, but their actual native population are fine, and also Do you really think Kosovo isn't albanian at this point? The map is bullshit.

Also where is the source from the map, i could literally go to paint and make a similar map

You map is retarded

My map is not

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are italians white?

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>Haplogroups that are considered European
>Serb intellectuals
It's not haplogroups, but subclades within the haplogroups that are considered European. R1b-L21, R1b-DF27, R1b-L23 are European. R1b-V88 is non-European. J2b is European. J2a is not. And so on for most haplogroups. You're dumb.

He found finally a map that proves he's whiter than some nations and he's bragging about it. Typical serb using ''swarthy'' memes

>1st. J is med haplogroup
for comparison, if i include J turkey becomes 79.5% white, and i think it's very obvious this isn't the case(and those 20% aren't enough to make them as dark as they are). while i agree we shouldn't take the route of purity spiraling, including J would just be pretending everything is fine for the sake of muh european brotherhood. and let's be honest, there is a plenty of dark looking greeks and italians.
>2nd. The turks used to be a tribe from actual turkic bloodline unlike today
turkic isn't european tho
>3d. It's not J that is making peope ''swarthy'' its non european haplogroups
there's just not enough of those to make such a big effect tho. if you included J in iraq it would rise to 82% for example.
>So you consider Spain and Portugal less ''white''? Not really there are some mutts, but their actual native population are fine, and also
while i get what you mean, there's a lot of non-native population identifying as native. and once again there are a lot of darker portugalians/spaniards(who consider themselves and are considered by most people in their countries spanish/portuguese).
>Do you really think Kosovo isn't albanian at this point? The map is bullshit.
honestly kosovo was one of the big surprises to me too(especially in comparison to albania), but i really don't know what to say about that.
it's literally written on the top
la creatura balkanica
m8 i'm literally using what the source provides, it really just seems to me like you're coping.
not really, i'm pretty dissapointed by serbian results, but they do seem realistic.

I'm pretty god damn sure that J2b is 40% of turkey's population. They are euro mutts, since mostly greeks lived in anatolia, other turks might have more turkic influence than european, the ones that are north eastern are have more caucasian dna, the ones that live in the north west have a lot of european dna, turkey is a heavily mixed region. You might have thought of the semitic/arab haplogroup (J2a), i forgot the european one so i used J for ''med''.

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>Explain
Attila won

while we can mental gymnastic our way into increasing percentages by including J(of any forms), it is a predominantly turkish haplo. also, your post pretty much implies turkey is white.

There are a lot of Albanians in Turkey. Since ancient times. Some are assimilated, other not

Some turks have a lot of greek dna, some don't the nothern ones have a lot of european dna but not enough to be considered european.

i guess we could compromise and make it "borderline", but it's certainly not as european as other haplos(especially considering it seems to corespond very much with the turkish zone of influence).

Of course it's not as european as other groups, for turks its better to be judged individually since they are already a heavily mixed zone.

>J2a which is the haplogroup of ancient greeks isn't european
>j2b which originated and is exclusive to europe isn't
>R1a which originated in india somehow is