Ok That's It Sweden has gone way too far now!

This, the law targets lawabiding citizens. If rapists cared about the law they wouldnt rape.

As usual you're wrong and missing the real story. This is just more virtue signalling. Prosecutors actually complained it changed nothing, since most cases are word against word, if one party says there was verbal consent and the other doesn't, it leaves you in the exact same position as 99.9% of all other rape cases that come down to he said, she said.

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oh let say whatever he wants, he's just a boy

This is what sexual liberalism has come to, not orgies in the street, but consent forms and sex acts recorded for official review.

I know the Real Story user
we are raising the dead for Ragnarok
youtu.be/Rcj1mJSTByc

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Leftists tend to hate anything that has an image of being strong, good and successful. They hate America, they hate Western civilization, they hate white males, they hate rationality. The reasons that leftists give for hating the West, etc. clearly do not correspond with their real motives. They SAY they hate the West because it is warlike, imperialistic, sexist, ethnocentric and so forth, but where these same faults appear in socialist countries or in primitive cultures, the leftist finds excuses for them, or at best he GRUDGINGLY admits that they exist; whereas he ENTHUSIASTICALLY points out (and often greatly exaggerates) these faults where they appear in Western civilization. Thus it is clear that these faults are not the leftist’s real motive for hating America and the West. He hates America and the West because they are strong and successful.

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Next step would be producing unfalsifiable consent to the court

just wait until they release an EU-wide law where you actually have to make a fucking contract in order to sleep with a girl and where you need to forward all the details to Big Brother so you don't get sued.

that's the path we're going down right now. I hope everybody rejects that once these assholes crush one of the few freedoms left.
gotta be a good functioning meme-drone on every level. that's what they want. reject this shit with every power you have and don't have.

Rape laws here are a joke. News at eleven. The conviction rates are even more of a joke.

No one takes these meme laws seriously.

You're all idiots. Verbal consent law still needs to be proven and since the entire problem they're trying to fix is one party saying it's consensual and the other saying it's rape, this changes absolutely nothing. It's virtue signalling.

Saved.

>producing unfalsifiable consent to the court
Impossible. The underlying problem with why it's hard to get convictions here is that our system unlike the anglo system relies heavily on evidence and has an even heavier bias toward innocence. This was fine when we were a homogeneous society of law abiding scandis.

Now the only solution is to give up our own liberties and change the legal system to combat crime brought in by foreign cultures. That's the real tragedy.

>Implying Swedistanis would report rape from Muslims.
They're so cucked they welcome the rape.

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This can backfire pretty badly, but I guess the point is to determine rapes as rapes even if there is no physical harm done. You'd still have to prove there was no explicit consent and I guess it can only be proven if the rape happened on streets.

Russia should bomb sweden. Idk man i hate sweden so much. Where are the vikings when you need them

Sex in Sweden must be so fuckin boring. No spontaneous heat of the moment raw passion sex just fucking clinical bureaucratic sex. Fucking sad

How do think this will work in practice? If a guy produces a consent form in court, what will that do to a woman’s claim? What if he records it?

> Any fucking bitch can call rape

They don't have to call rape anymore, this is a guilty until presumed innocent law.

The man has to prove he didn't rape her.

I don't shit-talk Swedes, I usually don't respond to the Sweden YES! meme; but this...

When Swedish women are getting raped daily... and the government is focused on a redundant piece of verbiage... and refuses to speak on the horror they have created...

If you are a Swedish man or woman, who cares about their land and their people.

Fix this fucking shit or get the fuck out of dodge.

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>How do think this will work in practice?

It won't work, that's the point. It changes nothing. It's a virtue signalling law made by lefties who like to pat their own back for accomplishing fuck all.

>If a guy produces a consent form in court, what will that do to a woman’s claim? What if he records it?

Consent can be revoked at any time so a signed contract is worthless, and you're back to he said, she said. This is the same in america by the way. Recording it might be illegal, but it has been known to save people in american courts. Like I said it's very hard to get convictions here even with video evidence so our problems are different.

>I usually don't respond to the Sweden YES! meme; but this...

Is wrong like most meme threads.

>If a guy produces a consent form in court, what will that do to a woman’s claim? What if he records it?

Gee I wonder.

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>this is a guilty until presumed innocent law.

No, it just puts his word against hers when it comes to if there was verbal consent, just like it's his word against hers if there was non-verbal consent before this law. I'm amazed you're all falling for something you can use a minute of reasoning to figure out for yourselves.

>Is wrong like most meme threads.
Is it though?

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It's all bullshit it won't change a thing. 55% of all rape convictions lead to a punishment below the lower limit. Rapists get a discount for even the tiniest thing. In the link the rapist got a 2 month discount because he lost his taxi licence after being convicted. He went from 2 years (the minimum limit) to 1 year and 10 months. Yes he is a shit skin.

tv4.se/nyheterna/klipp/låga-straff-för-sexbrott-i-sverige-finns-en-rädsla-3967925

It's very uncommon for even rapists and murderers to get deported. It's considered inhumane to send them back, because they might get hurt in their shithole countries. No one gives a damn about all the people who might get hurt here by the violent shit skin though.

His manifesto blew my mind. I expected crazy ramblings, but instead he answered so many of my questions and explained the lefty cult so well. Everyone here should read it.

>Can I rape you?
>Yes

Now what.

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I don't understand. Sweden used to be so liberal about sex that the only virgins were ugly 12 year olds. They even had a PSA on TV showing a man fucking another man on a table wearing a condom because they thought people needed to see gay sex with condoms to avoid AIDS. On public TV.

Video/Audio recordings at all times in Sweden?

Do you have to ask for permission on video/audio?

You have to text them afterwards

They are just women, no more uessles than the Swedish women taking up jobs from Swedish men instead of having babys.

Rape cases are pretty hard mqybe this will help somthing to change in rapistan

You encouraging rapes with sentences like that, if court cant achieve justice only lynch can

this is to prevent muslims from grooming children, you retard

i mean it's targeted at white men but...

You should read The Anti-Tech Revolution: Why and How.

Consent is implied if the rapee is an ethnic Swede.
Imagine the raised eyebrow of the prosecutor, questioning the ethnic Swede about really saying that the intent was to refuse to withhold sex from a New Swede of swarthy complexion, presumably for racial reasons.

Google anarcho-tyranny my naive friend

Ask her to date and sign an agreement listing what type of sex she’s ok with.

They are breeding a rebel army that will end up destroying southern Swedish towns just as badly as jihadists have destroyed Syrian towns.

"Rape" is an ugly word. I propose we change the term to "fighty sex".

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What's the sheboon to the left showing?

i don't know probably some blacks killing each other nothing out of the ordinary

Yes, and it specifically means that her word wins.

Just black up before you rape them, like your Dutch friends.

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Hello Frens!
Anyone has livestream from AfS in Växjö?
pls

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rape and consent have always been legal terms.
for example women cant rape, and minors cant consent

*law only valid to cis white males

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Except amerimordor IS the cancer of modern world, don't need to be a leftist to see it.

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What if 15 say there was verbal consent and one that there wasn't?

What if she's a mute??

Just to be clear on this point. What if you claim you got raped by a woman?

muh zwarte piet

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It's more retarded than that. What this new law means that you need expressed consent to an autistic degree that ignores common instinctive social cues. For every single instance of the sex act. So if you for example are touching her tits, and then move down to touch her pussy, you would have to ask for consent to initiate that new sexual instance.

The reason this law exists is simple: Thanks to the right to access public records we have ordinary citizens have been able to collect statistics on rape and ethnicity when the government refused to. (This is something they're trying to undo with a new amendment to the constitution which would mean only "professional vetted journalists" would be able to access such criminal court records.) Their solution to this over representation of shitskins in rape stats is to alter the law so that more ordinary Swedish people get convicted of "rape" since they didn't file out a government form before moving their hand from the tit to the pussy. It's an attempt at muddying the waters, so that the Marxists can point at the Swedes and say "See! You were the problem all along, not beloved mahmoud the serial rapist!"

tl;dr - Rapes are almost exclusively committed by non Nordics so they are desperate to clog up the stats with Nordics by changing the law so that things which are considered normal will now become rape. (((They're))) very desperate to make sure their genocide of the Nordic people goes on unimpeded.

Also reminder that the Swedish government employs shitskins to shill on social media and popular sites, to desperately cover up their downright genocidal incompetence.

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Is it rape if she's dead first?

Muslims are whats wrong m8

Your English is better than most Americans’ English. Excellent points, too, Sven/Muhammad.

To be fair the source of most shitty English in America is the niggers. The same thing happens here with sandniggers and Swedish, and from what I've heard they struggle greatly speaking even their own languages.

gee, i wonder who's behind this thread

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If all sex is rape, then just rape.
You're going to get charged anyway, why not enjoy it

Why don’t they quit beating around the bush and just execute all the white dudes? Then Somali savages will be free to rape and plunder their idiotic women.

I've started reading it lately and although the format in which it's presented is kind of weird, it's extremely interesting.
It's a tragedy that he chose such a fucked up way to publish it, making it easy to discredit him.
And despite all of the things he was right about, he was clearly "off" in many ways. MK ultra really did a number on him.

Wtf are you talking about?