Why is America so loose with critical militart equipment?

Handing Germany 200 F-35 and dozens of nukes, doesn’t this sound like the F-14 deal with Iran from the 70s all over again?

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Learn to read retard. US isn't giving you nukes.

The US has handed nukes to Germany for decades. They are flown on Tornado Luftwaffe jets right now.

Wait, Germany is a nuclear power?

You know damn well mama merkel isn’t gonna spend any money on the military bc it takes away gibs from the sand niggers and all the libshits and commies in your government would reject nukes even if freely offered.

You can arm nearly any plane with a nuke. We aren't selling nukes you illiterate fuck.

You do realize that the F-35 is made by a private company, do you not?

Pretty sure the export F-35s are downrated. US dont want Euros getting the good stuff

Do they really have F14's, I thought they were flying F4 Phantoms still?

Because we have better shit now.

Because for some retarded reason we think you are our friends.

at least they dont send their men to die for the same sandniggers in sandnigeriastan

You could put a nuke on a pick up truck or any normal plane.

America fights for Israel. Get it right.

The U.S. can still prohibit this kind of thing through laws, and more importantly through their own contract with the private manufacturer

because our shadow government wants to fight Arabs in the middle east, if germany becomes islamic, and we go to war with them, then we all germany's oil and valuable natural resources

developed under military contract, and completely under the government thumb as far as selling or revealing anything ever.

there's probably kill chips embedded in them so the CIA can blow up the german air force with a switch.

Because its all backdoor'd

And what arethe kauts intending to do with these nukes? Strapping them on their broomsticks? Germany is a joke.

Germany allows the U.S to store nukes on its territory.

Because it's how the US controls the EU and NATO, they've offered everyone a downgraded 'monkey-model' of their shiny new F-35s. Each export model is probably fitted with surveillance software to spy on allies, and maybe even a kill-switch as a last resort to prevent technology theft and to keep the foreign customers in line. The US have their own F-35's which have better computers/sensors, and a much lower RCS (better stealth) due to the use of classified stealth-enabling materials and technology which is too valuable to export to other nations. Also, the F-22 which is barred from being exported as well, has better performance and stealth than the F-35 despite being in service over 15 years now.

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>germany flies nukes you know
>we do it on the tornados hm
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we're already putting nukes on our F35s if we haven't already , the plan is to replace the F16s as nuke carriers .

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no hes just larping

so we can shut the them off when we want

I don’t get why anyone wants that overpriced underperforming pig of an aircraft.

Only country still flying them. 79 of the 80 ordered were delivered prior to the Islamic Revolution. The last one was not delivered due to said Revolution. That said, they're old, beat to shit, early F-14A models that aren't particularly threatening against a modern air force.

Good decision. F-35 has the same range as the F-16 but more with fuel tanks. Plus it produces 40 thousand pounds of thrust. Good for heavy payloads.

no military fag here, is it even intelligent to put nukes on planes? isn't the risk of a plane crashing while carrying one of them to high? I always thought that nowadays countries just use ICBMs if they wanted to nuke somebody.

mostly its just the lower radar return from an F35I , makes active radar jamming and dropping aluminum foil much more effective which you want in a plane carrying nukes . can also have F16I escort making the F35I almost undetectable .

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Bc everyone’s Cold War vintage planes are wearing out and there’s not much available that can replace them. What little there is available is often even less capable and more expensive.

>EU lets in Muslims by the millions
>ISIS worms their way into military command
>into nuclear command
>ISIS then has control of nukes
euro leaders are beyond fucking corrupt. it is beyond a doubt that all EU leaders supporting this Muslim flood are and have taken millions in bribes from the ISIS controlled oil money

All it would take is one leftover Nazi to fly one over Israel and nuke the hell out of it. Let’s hope that happens.

this would be so god damn awesome to see happen midair.

>take off with everyone else
>suddenly all fuck happens and every plane starts being controlled by a guy in a drone booth.
>you freak the fuck out as your own air force starts bombing your friendly base.

ICBMs have a long ass travel time and are meant to destroy enemy bases,silos,bunkers,infrastructure . if you wanna hit an enemy tank convoy you usually put it on a cruise missile on a plane .

'nuke' is just an explosive that relies primarily on nuclear forces instead of electromagnetic ones that chemical bombs do ,just like with chemical weapons you have everything from hand grenades to antiship missiles the same goes for nukes .
the only reason we dont use nuclear bombs exclusively in shit like day to day bombing of terrorists is they're very expensive to make , if we could produce fissile material cheaper and cause chain reaction with less of it we'd have nuclear hand grenades now .

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yeah but more than 1/2 are used as donors to keep the remaining planes up. The remaining ones are niggerrigged with makeshift parts, or whatever spare parts they can get their hands on

You overestimate ISIS. ISIS literally cannot function (outside of random spree-killings, like with assault trucks) without being backed by a foreign nation, and neither Saudi Arabia nor the CIA is interested in pushing Europe into a 4th Reich Muslim-Genocide mode by letting them launch a nuke in Europe.

USA always sell the outdated junk to make room for New Shit 2.0..
Besides the sales items ALWAYS have a sub sonic beacon that can be homed in on EASILY. Act like an asshole and get curbstomped sky king style.

Our country is run by a trust fund fatty who inherited everything. There's essentially nobody behind the wheel.

Germany has been occupied by US troops for 70yrs. Those weapons are still in their hands.

US is making the occupiers pay for their own occupation.

>Why is America so loose with critical militart equipment?
Because it's not "America" it's corprate; that is, defense contractors, like pic related.

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this, the airforce orders planes in pairs, one new model to sell to everyone (even our enemies) and one different new model that is designed to completely outperform the ones they sell

>doesn’t this sound like the F-14 deal with Iran from the 70s all over again?

No because Iranians are actually decent and relatively trustworthy people who we can expect to honor their end of a bargain.

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you better give up those bicycles if you dont want to get glassed cheesenigger.

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they have fucktons of cash from oil right now. not 5-6 million, but tens of millions, if not more right now since those old figures of like 30 million was back in 2012. they have been hiring people from the U.S. and all over the fucking world to train people in everything through bullshit companies. those intelligence agencies who smirk and think exactly what you did are underestimating motherfuckers who blow themselves up and chop off heads of kids and shit like that. they already brainwash children, so what makes you think they are not brainwashing their kids to learn to fly, or learning molecular science or trying to get into nuclear command? sure, this wave of fuckers might be too fucking stupid, but with access to, you know, decent fucking food for nutrients, free reign not in a desert, and dumbass liberal fuckheads willing to teach them everything for the sake of being inclusive, what makes you think this is implausible?

Your only WMD is Islam. On every other scale you're literally niggers.

Thanks for playing.

>fucktons of cash

and how is this cash stored? All dollar bills hidden in trucks somewhere?

More likely, it is all deposited into Saudi/CIA asset accounts and its use is supervised by the ISIS handlers. Once again, they cannot do shit outside of impotent terrorist attacks, without the go-ahead from the boss.

>whiter than you mohammad
the memeflag wont save you mutt

>US fucks up ME on behalf of Israel to keep Israel's enemies from having competent armies and nukes

>Jews flood Nuclear armed European countries with Muslims

>Israel is destroyed by nuclear armed Caliphate of Germanistan instead of nuclear Iran

I just want off schlomo's wild ride.

you know you dont need any paper trail for swiss accounts, right? or cayman islands? you know the CIA has a fucking black budget where they can write any fucking amount they want at any time, right?

>Israel is destroyed by nuclear

which would trigger the prophesied apocalypse

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

It's a meme that Swiss or Cayman accounts aren't tracked and monitored.

>you know the CIA has a fucking black budget

even the CIA needs internal approval, and they aren't interested in provoking Europe into killing their favorite pet/tool.

for americans, due to american law on american money FROM americans
afghanistan and the like have no fucking laws governing this shit

governing what? ISIS is a CIA/Mossad/Saudi intelligence pet project, specifically created to destabilize countries (Libya->Syria->Iran). Their oil money will only ever go toward that goal.

>ICBM
>Long travel time
They get from one side of the planet to the other in 15 minutes you mong.

Someone smart explain to me how the f35's thrust vectoring works?

You wouldn't have the balls to use them on us in the first place. We aren't worried.

>allows
lol sure you can put it that way.

>DE buys US equipment from US company, muh jobs
>European Defense Initiative
>F-35 is no longer state of the art, must develop and buy F-45

>5 and a half kills?
True but isn't range important for Israel in their environment?

I'm not comfortable with the US selling 200 F-35s and nukes to a muslim country like germoney

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The F-35 feeds the military industrial complex, it is not "critical" compared to other things in this aspect

F-35 is 25 year old tech

Even with that shit technology, iranian pilots held a 5-1 k/d ratio vs Iraqi pilots and their superior planes and numbers.

Tech can never replace human ingenuity.

The F-35 is a gen5 multirole fighter that Lockheed can downgrade to a gen3 fighter by flicking a switch. That's why the US dont care if potential enemy nation get them.

Germany developed a passive radar system anyway which is likely to detect F-35

have an old navy fighter jet

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It's an advanced piece of hardware and software. It's definitely a step up in teams of capability and the next line of capable fighters. We can argue usefulness another time. Right now it is here and ready to pick apart its worth.

The fuck is this nigger talking about?

God damn Israel how bad do you want to turn the world into a nuclear wasteland?

Fortunately apparently we have lost Soviet nukes ourselves.

the leaf is right for once. especially after the recent bullshit with Germany gunning to hire fucking hajjis as truck drivers... truck drivers... you can't write this shit.

Germany hasn’t developed anything on its own in decades.

The exhaust pipe is made of several sections with bearings and actuators. The sections are at angles to one another so that rotating the sections changes the angle.

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>what is mp3?

also:
hensoldt.net/solutions/land/radar/passive-radar/

For all of you whining about the neutered version for the allies. There whole program is neutered by the alis system. Read about it, it's a cluster fuck of parts management, maintenance and sortie management. The whole world of F35 operators shares parts and is interconnected to a shitty contractor network managed by private contractors on my base who work for Lockheed Martin. I don't know how they sold this bad idea to the military.

You have to understand there are different radar systems with different wave length capabilities that might limit your capabilities as a fighter. Not to mention advanced jamming capabilities being employed like the EA-18G Growler. They are more likely to develop a work around in a war situation as stealth fighters are flexible in terms of utilizing their advantages than a 4th generation fighter. You have to have the apparatus to make all the pieces work.

so they shoot some at your country too instead of all at ours :^)

Additionally, there's nothing impressive about the plane. It's very meh, not that fast, not that invisible on radar, takes more fuel, same payload as F16, more maintenance hours than F16. It's not the plane that makes shit happen though, it's the payload. The only thing I cannot say for certain is how good the radar is in it. It had better be better than the F15 or we really got fucked.

Because if they managed to make it work it would revolutionize the way wars are funded and developed both economically and militarily. Too bad it is a development nightmare.

>Iraqis had superior planes
There was nothing in the Iraqi inventory that was superior to the F-14 and the AIM-54 Phoenix. The radar on the F-14 was revolutionary for its time, with very long range and the ability to track multiple simultaneous targets. The AIM-54 was also the first deployment of an Active Radar Homing missile.

Previous long range missiles depended on reflected radar returns from the target generated by the firing platform transmitting radar in a guidance mode that can be recognized be the enemy.

ARH missiles can be fired while the firing platform is still in track while scan mode and mid-course updates are handed to the missile by telemetry. When the missile gets close it lights up its own onboard radar transmitter to track the target to impact. This kind of missile gives no warning that it has been fired until it's right on top of you. Combine this with the still unmatched to this day range of the thing and you have a recipe for a massacre. By the end of the conflict the IRAF could jut chase the Iraqi fighters away by painting them with their radar.

Maybe in 50 years when Gerrmany is majority Muslim, it will seem like that in hindsight, but hopefully by then the F35 is thoroughly obsolete.

I don't get all of it, but passive radar runs on already available, even low frequency waves. How are they going to jam this?

F-35 is reported as performing worse than fighter planes decades older due to strange failures of democratic bureaucracy.
The whole USNavy could end up being the biggest paper tiger in history

Lastly, the program went way over budget trying to make the Marines and Navy happy. The air Force just wanted a next gen multi role fighter like the F16. The Navy wanted stol, and the Marines wanted vtol, which really drug the program out and ultimately resulted in an over sized fighter in 3 variants. They should have just made 3 different fighters from the get go.

The radar is supposed to be pretty good. The real trick in the F-35 avionics is the distributed aperture system and sensor fusion where it integrates the radar, datalink information, and video from the cameras all over the plane into a comprehensive analysis of the battlespace around it. Too bad the chassis itself is kind of a dog.

Most of its budget, 80% or more went to black programs like Aurora.

>out dogfight MIGs and F-22s
>out strafe A-10s
can a plane be any more based?

Even on the models that aren't VTOL?

No, but it wouldn't take long for Germany to become a nuclear power. We're not some third world country like NK or Iran, which has to take years to develop them. If Germany wanted to get nukes, we'd have them in less than a year. Same for Japan. Neither country has made any yet, because it would cause unnecessary diplomatic trouble.

Cool.

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because the shit fighters they are sharing are SHIT.

The space weapons dwarf what happens inside of the atmosphere.

just the most advanced stealth uboat that could sink every single one of your carriers, no biggy.

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maybe better call it glass cannon

How the fuck was SA a nuclear power in the 70s but you guys aren't even one now?

In a total war scenario you would use small smart munitions to take out all of the civilian emitters that the system depends on. There's also nothing stopping you from jamming the frequencies it uses once you know the system exists.

This is also really only good for an early warning radar, you can't use it to target a SAM or AAM so you still have to send an interceptor who will get whacked before he sees the enemy on his own instruments. I guess you could vector him in to attempt to close from behind for a dogfight.

Why are we the best and everyone wants our shit

muh historic guilt.

Adenauer wanted to get tactical nukes in the 50ies, but the political outcry was enormous. Just imagine it nowadays with all those faggots in charge.

Germany is still occupied since 1945. They're not allowed to have a large army, let alone nuclear weapons.

Because the F-35 is pretty garbage.

you gonna torpedo a scrapyard? topkek

and the dogfighting capabilities are quite weak what I've read