ITALY’S SALVINI: NO POINT STAYING IN EU IF RULES DON’T CHANGE
ITALY GENERAL
William Brown
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Liam Cruz
What's going on?
Oliver Collins
>You might have picked up that there is a political crisis unfolding. It is really important, not only for Italy but for the Eurozone and EU more widely. So what has happened exactly and why does it matter?
>You may recall that the recent election was won by the openly populist 5 Star and the hard right League. Two parties that are not liked at all in Brussels but which nonetheless were elected by the Italian people, the citizens. These parties then tried to come together to form a government, but were coming from very different ideological places. In fact, the negotiations have been so complex that more than 80 days have passed since the election
>This is a post-war record for Italy. And that follows hot on the heels of recent post-election negotiations in the Netherlands and Germany which were also record-breakers in. So at broad level one thing that we are seeing in Europe that few people (outside of academics) are talking about seriously is fragmentation - more and more parties are finding it harder to work together
>Both the populist 5 Star and hard right League had variously made Eurosceptic noises during the election campaign. Talking about the need to reform the Eurozone/EU area, perhaps write off some of Italy's debt, maybe even possibly hold a referendum on whether or not Italy should keep the euro
>But they rowed back on a lot of that as the election approached or during the negotiations about how to form a government. Their joint government platform watered down some of the earlier ideas that had got Brussels/the financial markets spooked. But then it comes to the point where they have to nominate ministers and they go for an 81 year old named Paolo Savona to head up finance.
Joseph Rodriguez
>An interesting choice. Savona is pretty Eurosceptic, to put it mildly. He has suggested that the euro is designed to benefit Germany and that ordinary Italians have not really gained anything from nearly 20 years of euro membership. Well, specifically, he called the euro a "German cage" and worried that Italy was about to follow Greece down the tube
>Actually, in some respects the situation in Italy looks worse than in Greece now but let's stay focused on the political end. So then the President of Italy and the financial markets again get a bit spooked not only about this new populist government but also...
.... an 81 year old apparently Eurosceptic hardliner who nobody has really heard of outside of Italy but who suggested that the Germans today are basically like the Nazis in that they still want to dominate Europe and it might be good if Italy bailed out of the euro....
>In steps the credit agencies. The (unelected) credit agencies and markets then start to apply pressure on Italy, warning that they will downgrade the country to near junk-status bond spreads start to rise and financial institutions start to send their own message:
>"we don't want this government"
>All of this piles pressure on Italy's president who signs off on all of the other proposed ministers ... except the Eurosceptic Savona. This prompts the newly appointed Prime Minister (chosen by the two parties - an academic, bless him) to quit because he cannot form a government. And it leaves the populist 5 Star and the hard right League feeling even more frustrated with "the establishment" than they were even before the election
Nolan Gutierrez
>And I would humbly predict that in the coming months this entire episode will also leave the two (currently very popular) parties more openly (perhaps genuinely) Eurosceptic than they were to begin with. Some in 5 Star are already calling for a referendum on the euro and this episode fits their narrative about people power versus unelected institutions perfectly
>Here is what the President said:
>"I agreed to all ministers except the finance minister. I asked for a figure who would mean not risking an exit from the euro"
The only ministers allowed are unambiguously pro-euro ministers, apparently, which is no doubt what some voters will be thinking this morning
>This is what the leader of 5 star (who has already called for the President to be impeached) has said:
>"What's the point of going to vote if government's are decided by the credit agencies and the financial lobbies"
>Lots of Greeks might be nodding their heads right about now.
Angel Cox
>So today the President is meeting a man called Carlo Cottarelli, a former executive director of the International Monetary Fund. To most likely see if he fancies running a technocratic/caretaker government. Talk about ruling the void. Given that this would not be Italy's first technocratic government you might argue that this should not actually be too problematic
>Well, the last one (headed by Mr Monti) was not exactly popular in Italy and helped pave the way for 5 Star in the first place.
>So if there is a fresh election then the stage is set for a strong result for the League, which is already this morning alluding to a conspiracy, and perhaps also 5 Star, which may yet find itself moving further and further in a Eurosceptic direction. Of course, you could argue that all of this has partly been engineered by the parties (mainly League) to fuel their anti-establishment agenda (eg they could perhaps have found a more acceptable version of Savona), but the broader point is that the markets would still have been jittery, and the government would still have been under immense pressure to play ball
>It is clear, in my view at least, that there are ever-increasing tensions within the EU -as reflected in events from Greece to Brexit, from Hungary to Italy. That large numbers of voters will feel as though the democratic market place of ideas is being shut down to suit financial markets, technocrats and what often appear to be distant international institutions with no clear democratic mandate. These tensions will continue to propel the likes of 5 Star, League, etc. and their counterparts in other European democracies. The days of a permissive consensus are long gone /ends
Jaxon Walker
It's all so tiresome.
Jacob Baker
Notorious italian Jews are enthusiast at the situation.
We all know what this means.
1/2
Benjamin Russell
2/2
Oliver Hughes
I'm just not sure that preventing the formation of a democratically elected coalition government, that has more than half the popular vote, on account of a Eurosceptic finance minister, is a sustainable position, you know?
It's like, how badly can we play this populist uprising? I know. Stop the entire government. Because that is REALLY going to play well among an electorate that is already leaning Eurosceptic
Zachary Anderson
Mattarella just laid bare the system of control used to keep the Italians in line but criticising him for this is somehow on par with somem 3rd world shithole rebellion?
Stupid Jewish cunts.
Brandon Anderson
Next election will be fun. They could potentially get 2/3 of the parliament seats, enough to change the constitution.
Kevin Torres
The "president" will never be impeached, the vote for impeachment will never pass in Parliament, let alone in the Constitutional Court. Movimento 5 Stelle will just embarrass themselves and Lega will retain its reputation, while riding the anti-Mattarella wave.
Gavin Lee
Holy fuck, that was a remarkably cogent expression from a mongolian shitposter.
Evan Bennett
If it wont pass it will be Salvini fault. M5S are ready to use this against Salvini in the electoral campaign, especially if he goes with Berlusconi again.
Nathan Ortiz
First, thank you for this. I've been trying to learn about what's going on, and this helped me more than anything. Props, man, lots of props to you.
Second, I'm interested to know others (preferably reasonable people's) opinions on Savona and his anti-EU anti-German stance. I read a really interesting OP-ED in NYT a few weeks ago hyperbolically comparing the current EU to a Fourth Reich, and it made me more skeptical of the EU than I had previously been (I've always been skeptical of the euro).
Third, I'm actually not opposed to technocratic governments, I mean, after all, philosopher-kings are accepted as the best way to run society. But I feel like it isn't fair to call what is being proposed for Italy as "technocratic." The new rulers clearly won't have Italy's best interest in mind. It'll be more a plutocracy or oligarchy than anything. They'll just defend their markets and what keeps them wealthy and in power.
Owen Kelly
Sweetie, Europe and markets are more important than the vote. What do unwashed cishets in the streets know about politics? Thank you mattarella, more Europe!
Jack Perez
Civil war.
Julian Reyes
scenarieconomici.it
This was Savona's plan for leaving the euro. It's in italian.
Charles Jackson
Salvini will give the Lega members of Parliament "libertà di coscienza" (everyone can vote as they see fit) if a impeachment vote will ever be proposed.
Noah Perry
Jason Nelson
>A standoff over Italy’s future in the eurozone has forced the resignation of the populist prime minister-in-waiting, Giuseppe Conte, after the country’s president refused to accept Conte’s controversial choice for finance minister.
>Sergio Mattarella, the Italian president who was installed by a previous pro-EU government, refused to accept the nomination for finance minister of Paolo Savona, an 81-year-old former industry minister who has called Italy’s entry into the euro a “historic mistake”.
With no progressive force to give it shape, Italians’ anger has hit a wall
>“I have given up my mandate to form the government of change,” Conte told reporters after leaving failed talks with Mattarella.
Italy has been without a government since elections on 4 March ended in a hung parliament.
>Mattarella summoned a former official at the International Monetary Fund, Carlo Cottarelli – known as known as “Mr Scissors” for making cuts to public spending in Italy – to the presidential palace on Monday morning, which was interpreted as a sign that Cottarelli would be asked to form a government of unelected technocrats.
>Mattarella is expected to ask Cottarelli to form a government, but he will struggle to gain the approval of parliament with the Five Star Movement (M5S) and the the far-right Lega (formerly the Northern League) commanding a majority in both houses.
>Mattarella’s move could risk a constitutional crisis, and the country is now expected to go to the polls again in autumn.
The president’s move to quash Savona’s nomination on Sunday was unprecedented in recent history, and exposed a deep divide between Mattarella, who serves as the head of state and is suppose to be politically neutral, and the two populist parties – the M5SLega (formerly the Northern League) – who have struggled desperately to form a government and support a more antagonistic relationship with Brussels.
Jonathan Fisher
T>he leaders of MS5 and Lega, Luigi Di Maio and Matteo Salvini, denounced the veto, decrying what they called meddling by Germany, ratings agencies and financial lobbies. Di Maio also called for Mattarella to be impeached.
>Mattarella defended his decision by saying that naming Savona as finance minister – which he already said he opposed – posed a risk for Italian families and citizens, because it created uncertainty in the Italian economy.
“I asked for that ministry an authoritative political figure from the coalition parties who was not seen as the supporter of a line that could provoke Italy’s exit from the euro,” Mattarella said.
“The uncertainty over our position within the euro has alarmed Italian and foreign investors who have invested in securities and companies,” he said.
>The president said the increase in bond market spreads last week – a sign of growing unease and lack of confidence in Italy – would reduce the opportunity for social spending, and posed risks to Italians.
>It was an extraordinary indication that Mattarella believes that preserving Italy’s place in the eurozone is fundamental to the country’s financial security and future. Both parties have in the past suggested they would support an exit from the euro, but moderated their views during their election campaign earlier this year.
Camden Edwards
Salvini, the bombastic head of the far-right Lega, angrily denounced the decision to block Savona, his personal choice for finance minister, saying that Mattarella had overstepped his authority and was revealing bias against a qualified individual.
>“In a democracy, if we are still in a democracy, there’s only one thing to do, let the Italians have their say,” Salvini said.
>He said Italy wasn’t a “colony”, and that “we won’t have Germany tell us what to do”.
Di Maio, who heads the M5S, also criticised the decision.
>“In this country, you can be a condemned criminal, a tax fraud convict, under investigation for corruption and be a minister … but if you criticise Europe, you cannot be an economy minister,” he said.
>“I hope that we can give the floor to Italians as soon as possible, but first we need to clear things up. First the impeachment of Mattarella ... then to the polls,” he said.
>Mattarella’s move to reject Savona prompted Conte, a political newcomer who was given the mandate to form a government on Thursday, to step down from his prime minister post, before he had even formally started the job.
>Conte, an academic and lawyer with no political experience, said he had given “the maximum effort and attention” to accomplishing his task, but had been unable to do so despite the “full collaboration” of the coalition partners.
>Conte received the mandate last week to try to form a viable government from the rival populist forces, who disagree on so much that they have proposed equipping their government with a “conciliation committee” to settle its internal differences.
Christopher Hall
>The developments on Sunday night put Italy on an uncertain path. Some analysts have believed that any move by Mattarella to push against the populist parties would only serve to agitate their supporters, and fuel anti-euro sentiment in Italy. They have argued that new elections could create an even bigger majority for the M5S and the Lega.
>Before Conte or Mattarella had even finished their meeting, Salvini said the only option was to hold another election, probably later this year.
>Europe has made little secret of its concern at the planned new government’s intentions. The loudest alarm bells are ringing over the parties’ stated ambition to rewrite the EU’s rules and domestic policies which combine rises in public spending promised by M5S with tax cuts favoured by the Lega.
>The trade commissioner, Cecilia Malmstöm, said “there are some things there that are worrying” about Italy’s incoming government.
>Economists calculate the cost of the coalition’s promises – lower taxes, higher benefits, earlier retirement – could reach €170bn (£150bn), about 10% of Italy’s GDP. This would add to the country’s €2.1tn debt mountain and potentially trigger the EU’s worst-case scenario: a Greek-style debt crisis in the eurozone’s third-biggest economy.
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Angel Moore
all according to keikaku
Mason Brown
How Bad would a Debt Crisis Be?
>A crisis could be horrific, for two reasons. First, none of the powerful stabilization instruments that the euro area has developed over the years could be deployed to rescue Italy.
>Following crisis-related downgrades, Italy would no longer be eligible for the ECB’s quantitative easing bond-purchasing program.
>The ECB would stop accepting Italian bonds as collateral.
>Access to emergency support programs—the ESM, and through it, the Outright Monetary Transactions (OMT) program—would be conditional on fiscal adjustment, the opposite of what Italy's new government has promised.
>Unless the government were to change course, it would be forced to exit the euro, even if this is not its current plan.
Italy’s interconnectedness & size.
>With the ECB using all available tools to limit contagion, the euro might survive Italexit.
>But an exit would nonetheless put Italy, the euro area economy, and the European Union in deep distress.
>With credit, investment, and consumer confidence collapsing, Italy would enter a deep recession.
>Redenominating assets and liabilities of Italian corporates and banking would trigger bankruptcies and legal conflict.
>The resulting acrimony—both within the country and across Europe—would dwarf what was witnessed during the 2010–12 crisis.
>If Italy also exits the European Union, a massive trade shock would aggravate the financial crisis and recession in Italy and Europe at large.
piie.com
It is just one analysis released 4 days ago. Britain was supposed to go tits up after Brexit too, Trump was supposed to plunge USA into economic chaos..
Joshua Parker
The incentives facing the incoming coalition government.
>To succeed in the next election, the two parties will want to deliver on their major promises.
>Are the promises featured in the M5S-League contract compatible with a scenario in which Italy (and Europe) do not end up facing a debt crisis?
>And what might happen if they are not?
M5S and League's electoral promises are both centered on a more expansionary fiscal stance, although with major differences.
>M5S promised
>the introduction of a minimum guaranteed income—which appealed to voters in the economically suffering south.
The League party
>promised a flat tax—which appealed to voters in the economically thriving north.
Both parties
>advocated the repeal of a controversial pension reform introduced in 2011 by the government of former prime minister Mario Monti.
The government contract between the two parties features all three promises.
Moreover, both parties have committed to repeal an otherwise automatic hike in the value-added tax (VAT) planned in the 2018 budget.
How much would this largesse cost, and how might it be financed?
>Repealing the VAT hike would require €12.5 billion.
>As for the other promises, Carlo Cottarelli at the Osservatorio Conti Pubblici Italiani estimates that the League’s flat tax would cost around €50 billion, while M5S’ guaranteed income would cost about €17 billion.
>Scrapping the Monti government’s pension reform would add a further €8 billion. Counting in some of the minor promises, the total would reach a whopping €109-126 billion (6 to 7 percent of GDP).
Mason Powell
>the forest is burning down
>quick, throw more gas on the fire
Maybe they're /ourguys/ after all?
Nathaniel Roberts
B45ED!
Parker Rivera
FORZA ITALIA, CENTER-RIGHT WON'T BACK A COTTARELLI GOVT: ANSA
ITALY'S ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT 5-STAR "EVALUATING" POSSIBLE COALITION WITH LEAGUE IN NEXT ELECTIONS - 5-STAR SOURCE
Alexander Turner
wtf???
Nolan Anderson
You tell me Mr. Italian man
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Juan Jenkins
Remarkably more impressive than a London metro bobby.
Jaxon Mitchell
Italy leaving the EU would work out great for us. We’d be able to secure our border which means no more migrants.
I hope they hurry the fuck up.
Jeremiah Scott
Come on, did you expect them to say "yes, we'd like to get
Jordan James
MARCH ON ROME WHEN?
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Cameron Allen
Berlusconi will vote in parliament for Cottarelli government. He want to break the alliance now that he can be relected. The next vote and a coalition 5 stars- league would be worse than brexit for the EU because easily will have the 70-80% of the votes
Landon Rodriguez
I think that's too late for you guys. Even if you manage to close your borders you'd have to expell all your immies and I don't think that's very likely.
Jonathan Roberts
It's happening a bit to often lately, the EU taking over a country's governments.
Aiden Allen
>Italy leaving the EU would work out great for us. We’d be able to secure our border which means no more migrants.
yeah, that would be great, you would have less niggers and we could secure the border from all those sandniggers coming from france.
Austin Garcia
I didn't expect that, I thought (((someone))) gave Berlusconi some reassurance that if he played along, his businesses would be saved.
Bentley Morgan
That's easy, an out break of trouble, and they will flee. That's what they did to get there, in the first place.
Isaac Gomez
In the next 12 months Italy needs to roll over 297bn euros in public debt. An Italian crisis would make Greece look like a walk in the park
Hudson Green
Holy shit it's legit
HOLY SHIT IT'S LEGIT
Ayden White
But THEY are the trouble. France is slowly but steadily giving in to the invasion (even though Macron seems to have slowed it down); major cities like Paris have entire sectors filled with sandniggers that are giving birth to way more children than actual french. 30 years time and actual frenchmen will live only in rural towns.
Angel Evans
Regardless, cucksrvative Berlusconi needs to be politically isolated and die.
Parker Howard
Italy-Germany 2y spread rises to 5-year high of 123bps on prospect of Lega and M5S emerging even stronger from new elections
Benjamin Rivera
This shit is insane. Who in their right mind, in the face of a populist revolt at the polls, decides to prevent said populist coalition from forming a government because he didn't like one of the proposed ministers? Then proceeds to force another election to take place, where the same parties you prevented from forming a government will just get a higher vote share. It's fucking bonkers. The President is a moron
Connor Walker
Salvini not very happy about the German headlines on Italy
Anthony Torres
He wrote a book of how (((then))) are ruining the global economy
Brody Diaz
SHUT
IT
DOWN
John Ward
rainews.it
>BERLIN: GOVERNMENT SOON AND PRO-EU
Austin Clark
EU have just signed a declaration for more migrants and suppression of 'xenophobia' in Marrakesh
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Jaxson Anderson
I'm honestly really mad about this
Savona wanted to change the EU to be more fair yet they are making it seem like he wanted to completely break it down
Owen Adams
Mattarella acted like the perfect example of a cuck.
It was never about instantly leaving the EU, it was about negotiating power.
The EU austerity and their puppet prime ministers fucked our economy and they will continue to do that unless you can scare them with a credible plan of exit.
Of course an exit from euro would be painful, what is important is to be ready to do it, at least to scare then and negotiate better conditions from the EU vampires.
Mattarella just said 'no, I don't even want you to think you can have a plan for exit.'
Thus he condemned us to be impotent against the orders of Bruxelles.
Good job, mummy.
Brody Wilson
I think Italy leaving the EU is almost certain now.
Liam Sanders
This. If anything, they just proved that nothing in the EU can change, BTFOing all the soft EU reformists.
Logan Young
The EU is irreformable. Plan B would have quickly turned into plan A.
Samuel Bell
how exactly did the EU and Germany fuck Italy's economy though? I understand why they deserve a lot of blame for the migrant crisis, but in all fairness, Italy evades taxes at a rate of 28%. The South is notorious for having a culture antithetical to stable economic growth. The country, under Berlusconi, mismanaged its budget into calamity.
I get that the bankers in Germany only have their own interests in mind, but Italians and their government absolutely deserves a lot of blame.
Benjamin Perry
So let's get this straight. Berlasconi fucked you over because he wants to prime minister again, so Lega and 5sm are going to to form a mega coalition of room which will collapse the Euro and subsequently the EU?
Cameron Mitchell
Italy is the only hope to save the europe from the germans, of course they are mad as fuck with us, they dont want a free white europe
Kayden Nguyen
Mattarella = Merkel.
Jose Morgan
it is perfectly sane if in the meantime (((they))) will find a way, either via false flag or some other jewish trick, to not let this country have democratic elections ever again.
Grayson Myers
based pizza niggers
but give us back south tyrol tho before you sudoku
Joseph Torres
oops
Mason Turner
Dominic Foster
I don't really see how Silvio fucked anybody over this time. I mean if you're talking about splitting the vote with his Forza Italia party, then more likely than no most of those voters would flock to Lega (maybe some to FdI). But then all that would happen would be that the Lega-5star coalition would be even larger than it currently is.
Andrew Diaz
Italian Pizza is fucking garbage, I take Turkish Pizza any day over it.
Owen Jackson
what's that senpai
Liam Turner
>"literally Hitler" flashbacks
Jayden Barnes
I want to know myself. I have studied 5sm for a paper I wrote, but I have little knowledge of the intracacies of Italian politics.
Isaiah Lee
bond yields rising due to uncertainty.
Brayden Nguyen
>rising due to uncertainty.
what was i thinking, they're rising because euroskepts got btfo
Caleb Morgan
Asher Morales
>Second, I'm interested to know others (preferably reasonable people's) opinions on Savona and his anti-EU anti-German stance.
Firstly, let me say this straight: Savona is a perfectly sound man, with a curriculum longer than the Amazon river: he got a laurea cum laude, a specialization at the MIT, he studied at the DC's Federal Reserve and predicted that situation we are back in 1982, since the signature of the Treaty of Maastricht.
Secondly, Savona yesteday he sent an open letter to Mattarella explaining how he wanted to reform EU to make it more fair to nations with a weaker economy like Greece, Italy and eastern europeans ones; and ItalExit was to be considered only a most extreme countermeasure in case the EU didn't listen/refused to mediate with Italy and even then Savona declared that it wouldn't be possible for Italy to leave the EU without the majority of votes in a referendum.
>But I feel like it isn't fair to call what is being proposed for Italy as "technocratic." The new rulers clearly won't have Italy's best interest in mind. It'll be more a plutocracy or oligarchy than anything. They'll just defend their markets and what keeps them wealthy and in power.
Yeah, that's exactly what happened with the Monti government.
Daniel Watson
I couldn't finish one slice of Italian pizza when I visited it. It tasted like grass and compost no matter the restaurant I chose.
What the fuck
Hudson Myers
ITALIAN 2-YEAR GOVT BOND YIELD SET FOR BIGGEST ONE-DAY RISE IN NEARLY SIX YEARS , UP 47 BPS AT 0.93 PERCENT
Damn.
Gavin Rivera
Berlusconi didn't do anything this time. The EU put a veto on the economist they proposed as minister(who happens to be in bad terms with Draghi) and our president like the traitor he is followed the orders.
Jason Murphy
it would have created less chaos if he had just appointed the man :))))
Oliver Bennett
>Robe da golpe cileno
Free helicopter ride for Parenzo when?
Jayden Thompson
ITALY PRESIDENT GIVES MANDATE TO FORM A GOVERNMENT TO EX-IMF OFFICIAL CARLO COTTARELLI - OFFICIAL
ITALY PRESIDENT GIVES MANDATE TO FORM A GOVERNMENT TO EX-IMF OFFICIAL CARLO COTTARELLI - OFFICIAL
ITALY PRESIDENT GIVES MANDATE TO FORM A GOVERNMENT TO EX-IMF OFFICIAL CARLO COTTARELLI - OFFICIAL
Grayson Taylor
Wuuut since when did they have the power to do that?
Samuel Morales
>Our faults
Euro gave us 10 years of less debt interests that were fucked up by Berlusconi who did nothing to reduce debt.
By being stronger than the dollar Euro also helped us to go through the high oil prices during the Iraq war.
We did nothing to solve the debt problem during this period, growth less than other countries, tax evasion, etc..
>EU German faults
When the crisis started they pushed on us the terrible Monti government.
They forced us to immediately go under 3% of deficit when most countries were allowed more time. Monti did this by killing us with taxes, taxes destroyed our domestic demand and caused another recession and then 5 years of stagnation.
Between the effects of the 2007 crisis and the effects of Monti austerity we lived a lost decade.
All of this was done under the orders of German puppets in Bruxelles.
Meanwhile the more our debt was unstable the more people bought German debt, the high demand allowed then to finance their debt with very low interests, while our interests became very high. So the more the left us in troubles the more they gained.
With his own currency Italy would have been able to buy his own debt in case of worst scenario, without having to beg in Frankfurt, and stimulate our export led industry.
If you look at the data for industrial production you see Italy suffered the greatest reduction of all major European countries.
Henry Ward
Oh for fuck's sake
>they want to be reassured about fiscal italian situation
>those fuckers
I mean, didn't he ever read something like Linkiesta?
Cameron Diaz
Yeah I wonder (((who))) thought it was a good idea too. Not that (((they))) have a long-term IQ developed enough to understand what they did to begin with.
Hunter Garcia
Is he ourgoy or?
Nathan Foster
>EX-IMF OFFICIAL
take a fucking ugess.
Carson Sullivan
t. Algérienne
Carter Watson
Likely a EU puppet
Kevin Gomez
Extreme demoralization campaign coming.
Expect economic fear porn, false flags, skewed polls, dossiers, muh Russia and "populists are literally Hitler/Mussolini"
The kikes are going for an all-in
Screencap this
Dominic Brooks
ITALY'S PM-DESIGNATE COTTARELLI SAYS ACCEPTS MANDATE TO FORM A GOVERNMENT AHEAD OF ELECTIONS: RTRS
Jonathan Campbell
ITALY'S PM-DESIGNATE SAYS HIS GOVERNMENT WOULD HAVE JOB TO PASS NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET: RTRS
Austin Allen
ITALY'S PM-DESIGNATE SAYS ELECTIONS SEEN AT THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR: RTRS
Hudson Roberts
ITALY'S PM-DESIGNATE SAYS IF DOESN'T WIN CONFIDENCE, ELECTIONS WILL BE AFTER AUGUST
Eli Perez
New elections after August!
Oliver Lee
>economic fear porn
lmao
Jaxson Hughes
ITALY'S COTTARELLI: CONTINUED EURO MEMBERSHIP REMAINS ESSENTIAL
you voted wrong
Bentley Scott
happened with Brexit and Trump win, kek.
Tyler Sanders
How do Italians look back on mussolini?
In Anglo nations hitler is the modern day Satan but Mussolini is basically unknown.