What happened in Italy

They are afraid of another varoufakis
Because votes are not allowed to change economic policies

How can you be that dumb...

Ignore this liar. Mattarella just decided unilaterally the government was too anti-EU and blocked it, and appointed an IMF idiot to be PM (despite the fact that he will be immediately shot down by a no confidence vote)

(You)

>impeachment for mattarella.

only party to refuse this will be PD

impeachment will probably remain just a slogan, no one beside maybe M5S and FdI will truly try and start the real thing.
beside, the vote to the Cottarelli's "technical" government...

Because he's a wise man, because Italy needs Europe and Europe needs Italy.
Mattarella put a veto on the proposed minister of econony, that was his constitutional rigth so or lega and five star get over it or they can propose another minister of economy or they can fuck off.
The impechment is only another populist slogan, they cant do nothing about Mattarella that's our constitution so sucks my democratic cock you 5star/lega and even the under 3% casapound cringelords, dub on hater.

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Btw nice purple ID casafag

Renzi isn't coming back but thanks for expanding the right-wing coalition's seats faggot.

The election of Mattarella as President of the Republic was the Renzi govern heritage, he probably never come back but he still kick those illiterate, politically speaking, in their populist asses.
At least we dont blow up the journalist car in 2018 malta-kun, it's called democracy you ppl should try it.

We do! It's pretty nice. See, people vote for people to represent them and THE ONES WHO WIN GET TO FORM A GOVERNMENT! It's amazing.

You should try it for real.
> but muh one bitch blown up

>muh salveenee
>muh analfabeta funzionale
Neck yourself, ignorant scum.

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Yeah but both League and M5s caved in and dropped their Euro referendum ideas during the campaign. It would be scummy of them to hack it in to the government.

>democracy
>prevented a government formed by the two winning parties from forming
Wew lad.

^^

None of them totally dropped it, they just didn't make it a promise. They were both open to it.

>electing a head of state

The amount of faggots sucking eu's cock on social medias is just astonishing. Coincidentally they're all your typical numale cuck free gibs pro immigrant stereotype.

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If anything, I've seen a surprising amount of anger from Italians, the social media types are what they are.

Not to mention that most I've seen are millennials working/studying abroad.
Easy to talk shit about your homeland's situation when you're not even living there.

From the average Italian, sure.
Definitely not from dumb social media "Italians".
The sheer amount of posts under the hashtag #iostoconmattarella (I am with Mattarella) is downright insane.

Infact they have proposed their minister squad to form the govern, Mattarella fill his constitutional role and put a veto on one minister so the two political forces should propose another candidate for the ministry of economy if they dont want to change candidate they choose to not govern.
No drama just the beutiful Italian democratic process.
It's a 5star and lega decision to not govern, i know your butt hurt but that's the real life.

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What is the constitutional purpose of the power of veto over a proposed cabinet member?

I can't really think of why that would ever be necessary over, say, dissolving parliament to call fresh elections.

> Beautiful Italian democratic process
> Parties achieving majority can't govern because of one unelected fuck
You're either a troll or you're beyond retarded

But it's okay, they'll increase their share in the next election.

>It's a 5star and lega decision to not govern
How can one person be so goddamn clueless.
You are focusing too much on WHAT Mattarella did and not WHY he did it.
That's what actually matters

>elected to put your own people in and accomplish your mandate
>ceremonial role says "fuck that guy who will perform your democratic mandate. Pick someone the rest of the EU, not Italians, like better "
>get mad and demand another election so you can further your mandate
>lol but why you don't govern though?

Yeah ok, speaking the truth is now cringe.
You're not even good at shilling.

Serious question though: I have no doubt LN and M5S will only become stronger next election, but what will prevent this shit from happening again?

(((Why))) indeed

They'll impeach the president I think. And outright threaten to completely dump the EU if they keep fucking with their sovereignty.

I'm seeing a clear division as well between people who are running a business or are knowledgeable about how it works as opposed to an army of young men who are either studying or got hired by said businesses (those who are suffering the eu choke the most) and are happy/clueless about anything as long as they get their monthly paycheck, probably because the biggest financial decision they ever took was if they should or shouldn't finance their new iPhone.

The later are basically copypasting parts of the constitution on how a president should get elected or how the current eu agreements are good for us. Same goes for the immigration situation.

It's k as long as problems doesn't hit them directly I guess...

He literally said it himself on tv: he and his masters, the markets, couldn't allow the proposed extremely qualified but otherwise anti european minister for economy to be part of the government, justifying this, lying, by telling there was no expressed anti european sentiment during the electoral campaign.

Go back on reddit bitch, you are out of your league

Look, the people who voted LN and M5S aren't going to turn around, and the polls show that the coalition would be much stronger.

The question is: How many people on the fence can the sovereignty argument pull off it?

So what tricks will the jews pull before the next elections?

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Yeah I see how Europe is helping you, you coward slave

The President of the Republic is the guarantor of the Italian Republic he was elected by the parliament and the parliamente was elected by the people and that's the representative democracy model we use in Italy. The power of veto is given to the President of the Republic to guarantee the best for the country chosing the minister and signing the law.
This is how the Italian democracy works.
You can cry, make slogan, butthurt making post on Jow Forums but this is how it's work.
He say i dont want Savona as minister of economy because an eurosceptic is bad for the economy, period.
Lega and 5star did not present another name so they are not gonna make a govern.
GET OVER IT.

no need to hide it

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He isn't.

Wait, the Italian people let POLITICIANS elect their head of state?

For what purpose?

qualcuno mi dice che cazzo è successo ? ero fuori dal paese per tot giorni

he's not stupid and i'm pretty sure there was a passage about prevent the sate from harm or something like that in his oath

Mattarella accidentally the whole coalition's efforts

The PM appoints our head of state, but he is bound by the results of the election and cannot refuse the PM's appointments.

>accidentally
deliberately

(((deliberately)))
he straight up admitted he did it for the markets

> for the markets
More like for his EU overlords

This. Also new elections will likely benefit M5S and LN and give them a larger majority since they tried in good faith to form a government and was rejected by Mattarella because they're Euroskeptic.

>he cute

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Too bad im of saint roman church
Maybe or maybe not, the people start to understand the grave mistakes they are done by voting such minorate.

Actually, shouldn't the appointment of Cottarella remove any doubt that Mattarella was in bad faith?

> The grave mistakes of voting in the way Italy's masters in the EU doesn't like

Italy need a govern to vote another electoral law in order to go at election ASAP and the only way to do it is a techic govern, that's 5star and lega fault.
He has no option left since the two biggest political forces left the table of tractatives over one, ONE minister.
You clearly dont know shit about our democracy and keep vomit stupid sentence. Italy cant be without a govern.

How can it be the winners fault if Mattarella didn't want to nominate the minister? What are you smoking piddino?

Why bother having elections if the winners are overruled?

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Treason.

A circus to keep the people thinking they matter.
In a real country, a democratic one, the winning parties don't have to ask permission from an unelected Europhile technocrat.

The constituion, OUR constitution YOUR constitution foresees it.
If you are too stupid for understand it how can you change it.
I can understane this maltese dont know shit about our laws but you, an Italian should be ashamed of such ignorance.

What's important is that the italian people are uncucked. The evil elites will get what they deserve eventually.

it's better than having two "parties" that are no different from one another, but still pretend they are

Being cucked by hollow promise of a careless welfare made by a bunch of minus habens isnt be redpilled or uncucked ia just being dumb.

Mattarella was elected by an illegal parliament with a majority formed by a traitor party that has the mission of total destruction of Italy. He did something that is totally, TOTALLY, uncostitutional, never happened before and had the support of all the fucking regime's media, same media that built the character of Cottarelli in the last months, the person that Mattarella called 5 minute after he blocked this govern.

Your lies don't work anymore, what he did woke a lot of PD fanatics that you can't even imagine.
He's a Piddino, a disgusting person that have the desire of a subordinate Italy without democracy that take order from Berlin.

Can any of my Italian Bros inform me on the presence of US military and NATO forces in Italy. And if it would even be feasible for violent protests to occur, even with the support of the Italian military? And possible support from V4 and Russia?

If it's true and an unelected President appointed by the party previously in power can block the election of the government when the people who appointed him get BTFO in the polls - and the only reason that it hasn't happened is out of political convenience and goodwill- then your constitution is deeply flawed.

Barking up the wrong tree here friend.

Yours isn't even elected by anyone.

Ofc burger army will help the oppressors, EU is an American project (even if the elites in US are pissed off by Germany too).

>t. subject to a monarch

KYS commie scum

t. 5star minus habens

>totally unconstitutional
I keep hearing otherwise, hence my post here:

Can you explain? Also, how do you figure that even PD fanatics are woken up by this? I see fags loling about the death of their government because it worked in their favour.

How you even dare to insult, you fucking traitor. You should be hanged, collaborationist.

Media lies, so strange. A thing like that NEVER happened, open a manual of jurisprudence and you will see.

>he thinks that was last Mattarella trick
Things in Italy never change and will never ever change

Why do pastabros ITT have such shitty English?

Fair enough but can you explain why you think it's unconstitutional?

Say unelected president it's an error itself in first instance, because he was elected by our rapresentatives.
The illegal parliament is such a stupid concept made up by this minus habens so stupid that dont worth my time explain it to you that seems to be completly unware of the italian politic of the last 3 year.
Whit that said all the m5s cringelord can suck my dick.

Yep the folder grows

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>having a pedo jew who has a mutt granddaughter-in-law as your head of state

>based Luigi

LOL
> The masters elected him, he's elected, QED
> Proceeds to LARP as a Roman Patrician
> Then uses shit memes

They will try to divide them pushing the story salvinee did it to go back to vote or if they manage to do a technical government they'll change the electoral law

A PdR can choose (his liberty is limited, but he has free will) a Presidente del Consiglio dei ministri (not a premier but I'll use this term from now on) that can have the "fiducia" from the Parliament, for this reason the Premier is almost always pointed by the winning coalition/parties, but he cannot choose the ministers, even if he have to ratify their appointment.
He nomined the Premier, the Premier choosed the ministers and the PdR refused to appoint one of them.
NEVER happened before.

its seems that the father didnt have the leverage to pull up the kid because he was clinging onto the adjacent balcony with a wall separating

i dont think its staged but the media hysteria exremely exploitative and the nigs motivations very calculative instead of noble.He saw his chance and knew exactly what hed get-citizenship and media fame

to be honest i wouldnt do the same because id see its a beardman and would never risk live to save some arabs potential little future beheading specialist

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Oh, gosh you are the faggot from Jow Forums.
I hope at least someone pays you for this retard propaganda you do, how much is it, 5 cent per comment?
Last time I answer you, loser, get a real job.

Cringe.

I doubt it'll work to scare away anyone who voted Lega or M5S.

Not entirely correct Napolitano made Renzi change one of his ministers what's never happened is that the winning coalition refused to change it

A PdR can ask, can't impose.

Yes I have the feeling there will be something more but I can't understand what they'll come up with this time