Black people invented rock and roll

They invented what would become rock and roll but the white man appropriated it and made it better.

Rock in the 50's was really primitive compared to what it grew into.

I'd go ahead and say that's a fair statement. It is more complicated than that but it would be desperate and weird to try to make the alternative case.

Rock ain't all about that many early rock and roll songs dealt with issues of cars, school, dating, and clothing and there are still some that have nothing to do with drugs, booze, violence etc.

Rock and roll comes from blues and country music. Blues was made by black people, but it comes from white folk music. While obviously country is purely white. There is also dispute on what is the "first" rock and roll song or band, which some white people are included.

So the answer is they helped make rock and roll, but to exclude white people as a factor is in fact disingenuous. Lastly, go post this on /mu/ instead on Jow Forums thanks.

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rock in the 50's was also very primitive compared to 30s and 40s jazz in harlem though, wasn't it? you're not wrong but that statement is a bit misleading

Yeah cus there's so many rock songs about being a crip or shooting at cops

>Rap ain't all about that many early rap songs dealt with issues of cars, school, dating, and clothing and there are still some that have nothing to do with drugs, booze, violence etc.
see?
everything turns into degeneracy because degeneracy sells.

As true as the holocaust. Utterly dramatized and wildly exaggerated

yes, but have you ever shot a man in reno just to watch him die?

co-founded is the most all-rounder amswer you’ll get without politics getting a foothold

Nah early rap songs dealth with issues with cops and shit like that.

you are delusional

Besides what type of music you listen to then? Some Jazz? Or some gaypop that most of the kids nowdays listen to.

they've invented almost every major style of music in the 20th century.

almost everything
i've been listening to a lot of rap and edm recently since it's winter and my city is empty (i live in a "tourist beach", so yeah nothing much to do other than work and smoke weed w other locals)

Sure, the DNA of rock and roll is big band/swing but with only a few players instead. Big Band is dumped down jazz, named for the scent of jasmine permeating the bordellos of the deep south.

All the best rhythms are American negroid, brought to mechanical precision made possible via industrialization.

It's OK to be black.

not all of them, some invented peanut burbber

Elvis did 100%

First true rock and roller

Combined country, square dance and blues

peanut bupper

i think it's a bit pretentious to avoid songs that have "degenerate" themes. i enjoy NWA, but their music isn't going to make me go out and shoot cops. it's all dramatized.

nobody can deny the appeal and allure of exploitation films. why shouldn't we feel the same way about music?

I meant pubber

ah fuck it

>black
>people
pick only one

If you ask most of the early rock-n-roll artists who their influences were, they're pretty much all going to list black artists.

it was a collaborative effort between blacks and whites

most music in america started in black ghettos
jazz
blues
rock
r&b
disco
house music
techno
rap

>t idiot
What is the entire genre of metal, progressive rock, Electronic music as a whole, Swing, Surf Rock, Blues rock, Disco, etc etc

Literally blues, jazz, a few electronic sub genres, and primitive rock are the only thing blacks ever "invented".

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This leaf is right. It's a complicated thing, what later became rock and roll was made from gospel, folk music and many other genres.
Blues is usually quoted as the origin of rock 'n' roll, but blues itself was heavily influenced by white folk music.

>house music
>techno
those are from europe

Holy shit, blacks unironically invented house, edm, blues, rock, and disco

>edm
"EDM" isn't even a real genre you fucking double nigger. If you meant it as electronic music as a whole, then you are completely wrong anyways. The invention of electronic music is so 100% white the only thing comparable white would be classical.

>blacks invented scales
The only thing blacks actually can do is copy from previous styles(folk) and repeat the same shit over and over again while shouting how they invented shit.
Hendrix was in actuality a shit musician that just happened to be the first one to trip against the electric guitar while repeating the same fucking blues scales over and over and over. And died a retard's death.
Listen to some King Crimson or Satriani if you want to hear some good guitar work.
Even bass which was supposed to be their strong point got completely redefined by Pastorius and still hasn't been matched to this day.
>techno
Germany is a black ghetto?

>the only thing comparable white would be classical.
>implying Italians are white

House music is a genre of electronic dance music created by club DJs and music producers in Chicago in the early 1980s

Blacks didn't even invent cRap and hip-hop jews did. Niggers are like women where society, the media or their masters/husbands have to assign them an identity to act out.

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are you?

Yet Hendrix influenced quite many, Satriani included.

>Germany is a black ghetto?
There's always room for achieving our dreams

Most nigger music you hear and see today is by white/Jewish producers and sound engineers

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Italian classical was made by richfags who wouldn't have been raped by the muslim hordes

Why did they quit?

Maybe they came up with the rhythm but I doubt the one added note to make the blues scale is theirs.

None because white people invented the electric guitar

It's true. Rock and Roll music was degenerate and White people recognized this early on. The Boomber youth culture that formed around it was as focused on sex, drugs, and general hedonism as modern Rap culture.

*Boomer

Mostly true.

Also Chuck Berry isn't considered actual pioneer rock and roll (which was in the 40s).
You want the real George Washington of Rock you need to listen to Fats Domino.

wrong look up chicago house before euro house
euros invented trance

white people took it over and it became less cool. this is the typical cycle
black people invent a genre white people take it over it becomes less cool,
then black invent another genre and the newer black chatize the older gen of blacks for liking what is now white people music.
ERGO if you want to kill rap music genre white people will have to completely take it over

then why do blacks still use white inventions like forks and soap?

Euros invented lots, like Big Beat, Hardcore, Gabber etc and 1001 other sub-types

were talking about music retard

or, you know, guitars and electricity

>Why did they quit?
Blacks traded in their disco clothes for guns and rap

not saying they didnt

>Blacks didn't even invent cRap and hip-hop jews did.
Wrong whites did niggers just stole it and kikes profited from it as usual en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyting

>ERGO if you want to kill rap music genre white people will have to completely take it over
I completely disagree with everything you said except this, actually the advent of the soundcloud rapper might just bring this to fruition as more and more wypipo are getting face tats and hopping on the band wagon

It literally doesnt matter whether they did or didnt (they did some but not all the shit these idiots say)

Because ALL of it was done on WHITE EUROPEAN instruments, and technology.

Does anyone really believe that if whites had not been able to figure out the tuning mathematics necessary to create these scales, and to create instruments based on this, that they would have figured this out on their own? Give me a break, ALL of their music would still be played on the djembe!

Oh and dont even get me started on house and the electronic genres, sure they did do Chicago house but again...USING WHITE TECHNOLOGY! Who invented the record player and the tech for turntables? Who invented all of the software for digital recording and all of the samplers and keyboards that were used prior to digital recording? Who invented all of the fucking plugins and DAWs people use today?

NOT ANY OF THOSE FUCKING BLACK PEOPLE.

So congrats, you figured out the blues scale. Come back and impress me when you can invent the fucking piano. Or the saxophone. Or the guitar. Or any advanced melodic instrument used in all this music.

Somebody give one shred of credit to the only reason music even EXISTS for fucks sake.

Europeans invented classical music how true is this?

>Satriani is better than Hendrix because he plays more notes
you dont understand music

but thats not the question though is it

The question is irrelevant. If somebody developed the beginnings of a style of music they dont own that culturally forever if people dont even own their instruments culturally and if they did then everybody wouldnt have a pot to piss in.

All music is derived from classical at some level and without respect paid to that first and foremost there would have been no instrument to play the blues on

>hasn't heard of Black emo pioneers Sunny Day Depreciated Real Estate and their lead singer/songwriter I.B. Saad

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cringe

tfw you know you'll never be able to use in real life quotes like "i can't kiss you baby, you smell like piss" or "you can smell my fart"

Yes but in the late 50s and 60s black and white rock and roll went in radically different directions.

Black rock turned to funk and soul, which became the backing tracks of hip hop.
White rock is just the rock most people think of. Blacks formed the basis but whites took it in the unique and iconic direction it went.

They took roughly the same thing and went down two paths, melodic vs rhythmic.

They didn't, they just trended a different way that most people don't consider classic rock

youtube.com/watch?v=AjGLMcrWrS8

Their music has always emphasized rhythm
>inb4 so does European
I'm well aware but African rhythms are very distinct

Sister Rosetta Tharpe was a connection between gospel, blues and rock. And played a mean electric guitar.

youtube.com/watch?v=5SoZG4yDaJA

Bullshit

They stole it from Marty Mcfly

all tribal music is rhythm based
youtube.com/watch?v=QRg_8NNPTD8

>blacks invented X
>no, whites invented X
the only people who try to credit achievements to their race are the ones who can't claim any individual achievements of their own

The obscenity and vulgarity of the rock and roll music is obviously a means by which the white man and his children can be driven to the level of the nigger.

Executive Secretary
Alabama White Citizens Counsel

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Blacks came to new world and were exposed to white worship music and put a spin on it to make gospel.
They heard folk music brought from Europe and mixed it with their music to make the blues.
The blues mixed with western swing music became rock and roll.
That mixed with the blues ended up in England where the British invasion sound was cooked up.
It's a constant discovery and reinvention that creates new trends in music.
In the 80s a black group was messing around with a marching cadence (going back to Roman times) and came up with what was to become hip-hop.

>"because ALL of it was done on WHITE EUROPEAN instruments and technology"
Guitars?? So Hispanic is white today?

Dwayne Alman is better because he makes less mistakes.

It's all just a mixing pot that everyone has put there own spin on

They invented Rolling Joints and Getting Rocks Thrown at Your Skull

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Nope. The only reason that sound exists at all is because Chuck heard Marty playing it. He owes Marty a lot. Maybe even his whole career.

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They had a part, rock being born out of blues and jazz. Back then the spades were cool because they were 'counter culture' before counter culture became the thing we know it today

That all changed with the 60s and psychedelics because a lot of the 'cool' spades couldn't handle psychedelics and had very uncool moments. The Grateful Dead and Janice Joplin had a very large part in getting people to dance at concerts, Janice was a part of a group that encouraged people to dance at music concerts because it was considered a novel idea at the time. The Grateful Dead themselves essentially pioneered music festivals with the acid tests, modern music festivals being attempted recreation of the psychadelic experience without having to take drugs. A lot of things contributed to rock, but to say any one group created it is silly. Chuck Berry had a hand, same with Hendrix, but neither 'created' it as it was borne naturally from the streets through probably thousands of musicians you've never heard of.

They played white folk-style songs through a white invented electric guitar.

>Hispanic
Think you mean SPANISH, you retarded mutt. And newsflash the ACTUAL Spanish are fucking WHITE.

saying they invented music is them trying to take credit for it.
ac/dc aren't black.
lynyrd skynyrd aren't black.
i could go on, but you get the point.

It's probably about half. Blues was the basis and rock is basically distorted, sped up blues. Black people contributed a lot to music. Jazz, hip hop, RnB and black gospel are all good.

But rock came directy from the blues and uses many of the same chord changes and rhythms.

Their brand of rock was a continuation of jazz at its peak: meant to spread racemixing. When whites took over they were still good goys, because they promoted degeneracy, drug culture,etc

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Rock didn't branch off of jazz, they both evolved from the blues.

Modern music is massively influenced by niggers