The left will eat itself

I'm actually pretty unfamiliar with Land (if he did a blog I can't find it) my goto is Jim's blog.

(((Moldbug's))) open letter is what redpilled me.

>left dominates all social policy for decades
we-we're winning guys!

Actually, since America has the strongest position geographically of any nation, the largest military, will soon be energy self-sufficient, etc. I'd be far more concerned about Whiggism going on forever due to the impossibility of dislodging America.

You assume America as a singular entity is politically stable, I don't think it is.

Their hold is slipping tho

Yeah, from what I understand Nick Land's stuff has a conspicuously Whiggish flavor to it, it is basically "right-wing" Marxism where Capital has an agency of its own and is eating the world in some sense, eventually bringing about an AI that will end us all, he is a fan of secession, constitutionalism, etc. to expedite this process. Note the conspicuously Whiggish ideas like an end state for history, outsourcing governance to procedure, etc.

Well, the left controls all the power centers, as in, univeristies, civil service, judiciary, and media, so I think it's pretty secure on that front. The freakout over Drumpf is purely a moral one since Obama was basically the Jesus of Progressivism. The blacks are a moral barometer for America under Progressivism, so obviously we're almost at the end of history if we can elect a black president, you see...

>[thing] will continue forever

Well, long enough for us all to get joosted

it is explicitly Marxist. Land's actual ontology is different than Marx or Hegel though and centers on his 'outside' idea, which draws more from Kant.

Sort of a sideshow though, the core of Neoreaction was Moldbug reiterating Carlyle, by his own admission really.

They don't.

The Cathedral will abandon blacks totally when they are no longer useful and a pliant block which is already happening. They had no problem flooding them with competing low skill immigrants.

Could the planned Cathedral quasi crony marxist dictatorship under Hillary and her successors hold the US together... maybe for DECADES but realistically not forever.

Land is heavily influenced by Deleuze and Guattari.

We caught them having sex with children and EATING them. That's why it's gonna stop now. It's over. Their child-fucking days are over. It's not about "preferences". It's about good & evil.

Well, they don't need to actually IMPROVE their lives in any way. They just need to incite outrage over the state of the blacks as a pretext to expand the state to rectify perceived injustices. All previous left-wing moralist movements in America have followed this general pattern. I expect we'll see more of it when they make the push for reparations and turn it into a social engineering program. Though you're right that blacks have been getting dropped for Latino/immigrant activism nowadays. 17% vs. 12% and all.

Given liberalism's and the broader left's disordered nature one would think that their self dissolution is inevitable, and there are many signs pointing to that namely Islamification and rise of the reactionary right, harbingers of the liberal west's demise.

I'd also like to add to this in the early days the progressives were actually redpilled about race Woodrow Wilson and his fellow progressives hated blacks much more then conservatives and reactionaries generally did at the time.

The turning point came when it was found that the white working class generally massively preferred fascistic ideologies and social credit (which preserved some individual freedom) over communism.

Hence they gradually moved over to anti racism and biological Leninism.

A Lotta people need killing user.

that's the Marxist stuff though. he veers way off into almost mystical territory when talking about the 'outside'. It reminds me of a kind of nihilistic horror version of the holy spirit. Something unknown which transcends space and time making incursions into reality.

There is a connection between the ideas, where 'deterritorialization' meets his idea of all fixed points of reference disappearing into this emergent entity that is actually coming from the future. But you can't extract that idea from D&G, it is clearly a kind of weird Kantianism mixed with other stuff.

their underlying premise runs counter to reality and what we see in nature.
people are not equal in potential, it is idealism based on no data at all that by default everyones flaws are balanced out by some hidden untapped talent, which in a liberal utopia would afford everyone 'equal' status.
most humans are utter trash, within all races.

>The turning point came when it was found that the white working class generally massively preferred fascistic ideologies and social credit (which preserved some individual freedom) over communism.
>Hence they gradually moved over to anti racism and biological Leninism.

The big turning point was the 1960s when the racial maoists (I like this better than "bioleninism" since they were literally maoist) couped the stalinist sympathizers. of course now these same people are getting outdone in wokeness by our latest round of student activists. can't wait to see what happens when they become radical lawyers, judges, and government employees!

>tfw her political ideals line up with what america was founded on but she is to fucking stupid to realize it

As Jim says the end phase of leftism (if not stopped by either a Stalin within the left or a Pinochet) is everyone torturing each other to death for insufficient leftism.

And how do you feel about this?

But what if the child was racist tho
I heard kids can show signs for racial preference at a young age!

JUST

It makes me feel like a right-wing tankie, as in, I want to send tanks into Berkeley. Can't go wrong with more tanks.

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Moaist-Third Worldism is based though.

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Jason please go.

The fact that you numbskulls don't already know the left has been at war with each other since before even fucking Marx shows how little right wingers know about the left. There's fucking millions of variations of marxism and left wingers are more likely to ignore a fascist and start arguing with each other than unite. This is exactly what happened during the spanish civil war: even as franco advanced the anarchists and communists started fighting.

*that's what makes it more fun to be on the left than the right*

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>The fact that you numbskulls don't already know the left has been at war with each other since before even fucking Marx shows how little right wingers know about the left.
I think people are aware of this, this is what tends to cause a lot of people to end up getting shot, gulaged, etc. under Communist governments.

No it is not. If anything the country is moving radically left. The Overton window has gone far, far left over the last 3-5 years

he's not lying
the mountains won't save you white man
make the nigger pay the toll

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I don't have a clue what fucking definition of "left" you're using. Today we're further right than fucking thatcher. God damn, even when the candidate *you fucking wanted* wins you can't stop whining.

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>Traditionalists
>The very ideology that allowed leftism to take power in the first place

Man is a creature of habit, I suppose.

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there's way too much text there

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What about here.

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Motherfucker, I dont think you get it. These alt right retards aren't exactly wrong about what a lot of us want. She is our comrade more than you are, because at the end of the day you put your national and racial identity first, so you will sympathize with the fascists and nationalists when push comes to shove over ending imperialism once and for all. You do not understand, Canada is not your land. Nations are not real. You stole it from indigenous peoples who do not have a concept of nation, you took their land and exploited it for profit. Nations are little more than corporations, and you are too tied to them emotionally to be of any use to actual paradigm shift and revolutionary change. Your sympathies and latent racism will get in the way of progress towards an anarcho-communist Marxist vision of the world.

Take that fucking flag off bitch. Right wing fuck.

Yep. No different from a sargonite liberal basically.

go be fat somewhere else

I have no qualms with a nationalist statist. You are little more than a fascist who wants centralized control of power/wealth in the hands of a circle of elites you call Politiburo. You are imperialist fascist filth and not my comrade, your ideology is a perversion of Marxism.

Meant for the OP not my comrade

lol delusional fag

I would have whooped Marx's ass in a fight, dude was a pussy.

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>gobbunism

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STOP

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If they had no concept of land ownership, then it is really the whites who have been exploited (minorly) as they could have simply settled alongside them. However, the natives did have some sense of togetherness. They formed a unit that functions much like a national identity. What was done, was progress. Labor, effort, building the foundations of this country. It wasn't exploitation, we came and we built marvels.

Every attempt must be made to stifle your anarchic bureaucracy. Law must be maintained, the lessons of Rome should be carried onwards, regulations set, deals negotiated. We are too far along to turn back and sing kumbai yah. Marxism will fail simply because man cannot plan out that system that desires distribution among all peoples. Man must fend for himself as he has always done.

You will come to terms with the system and what it's for eventually.

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Says the user who doesn't just let anyone into their house.

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shook

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>uma deliosa

macacoa delicia

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>left
>right
Just get rid of the brown people tbqh I don't care if we have fascism or communism after that. As long as you insist on that point I would rather elect a gun pointed at my head than a liberal / leftist

i don't believe the conversation in you pic related ever happened but i am certain each one of these Q and As takes place regularly albeit separately and with different people.

so long as the left continues with it's more-progressive-than-you purity tests, they will accomplish nothing.

Poor girl...too young, inexperienced, and deprived of positive male influence to know how confused and spun around she is... sad.

They don't seem to care about doing things. Its like evangelicals who argue about whom is the more righteous.

Moaist 3rd wordism isn't "progressive", its the idea (in essence) that the first world proletariat are now exploiting the third world proletariat and are acting like the bourgeoisie. They support anti-imperialism which includes defending Juche, which I highly doubt any "progressive" would do.

What do you mean? M3Wists literally think you're "reactionary" unless you're a primitive tribesman who hasn't even mastered agriculture, much less a complex mode of production.

Jason "Unruhe" Caden is a retarded lardass. He was doxxed on here several times where it was revealed he still lives with his mom despite pushing 40. He is also massively overweight. I will give him credit: at least he's redpilled on the JQ.

Fuck off commie. Juche is based as is Ba'athism and Third International Theory. The DPRK is the non-degenerate ethnostate ALL nationalists should seek to emulate.

Sounds M3Wist talk to me.

Intersectionality is probably the beginning of the end of the end of the leftists. They think it means more allies, but it actually amounts to more of a deadlock in terms of getting anything accomplished. Real life example is the York University 3 month long strike here in Toronto by the contract staff and assistant teachers. Apparently collective bargaining isnt working because any number of their meetings descend into random fracturing of the main aims into free palestine, womens/poc/lgbt writes, etc. Many of the teachers who went into the strike to straight forwardly increase their pay and job security are now embarrassed to even be in the same room with these lunatics. It is a great thing.

Not true. Fascism was a massive disruption. The win long and slow. Too fast, the normies flock to fash for stability. They bit off more than they can chew. Rebirth through fire. We will win and resurrect Greco-Roman virtue.

>The DPRK is the non-degenerate ethnostate ALL nationalists should seek to emulate.
what kind of shitposting is this, you're worse than garden variety commies

Things are going to become more and more divided.
What was once a confusing grey area is now a sharp clear gap.
Good vs. Evil. Right from Wrong.

>the first world proletariat are now exploiting the third world proletariat and are acting like the bourgeoisie.
Spengler pointed this out 100 years ago as an example of why Marxists were retarded

M3Wism rejects intersectionality. You don't know what you're talking about.

We must continue to fight and not give ground until they truly collapse and the threat to civilisation and culture ends

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M3Wists are dipshits who promote National Bolshevism for pansies. Like all Marxists they love weakness whereas true nationalists love strength as it is the only thing which keeps the nation alive.

Why do all the Marxists just talk about political theory?

And even then remind people why they are evil to prevent a similar rise

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M3Wists aren't nationalists, they're anti-imperialists and third world marxists. They don't care about nationalism, they just tolerate it as long as its anti-imperialist. The goal is still international revolution.

Ex Leftist reporting. The main problem with Modern Leftism, which is far removed from its working class roots, is that it has declared war on White People, males especially. Combine that with their love of Hedonism similar to the old Roman Empire and any honest person can see the train wreck coming. Fat and happy living (easy money) is the only thing keeping the charade of modern civilization together.

They have already obliterated the EU fren. They won’t take the US.

chavez/maduro are white
this pasta is pottery
i love it

sorry nigger but shia labeouf joined the "alt right" and trump is a kike now. it ogre. trump doesnt get another term and the conservatives lose a few seats

This. Wish more realized it.

This.

Also, what redpilled you?

>shia labeouf joined the "alt right"
?

>See, this is where we traditionalists have the advantage: we aren't strongarming each other over every single little thing.
Although the left is a virtue signaling, purity spiraling mess, the right suffers from another. similar problem--it is a broad coalition of dramatically different ideologies that are united only in the sense that they are opposed to leftism. Outside of that, they either hate each other or are simply too different to be compatible. Even with this loose "unity", the size and clout of the right still, in general, pales in comparison to the left. On the other hand, leftist views can generally be plotted along more of a gradient, and although they may pretend to be disgusted by it, the average democratic socialist is probably far more comfortable with communism than the average conservative is comfortable with fascism.

A retard joining a nebulous vague faggotry club?

M O L D B U G

Checked. I think there’s 2 main groups on the right and they’re incompatible.
1) view politics like 2 rival college football teams, watches normie news for simple “gotchas” to spring on liberal co workers, it’s a hobby with no real consequence.
2) realizes we’re in deep shit, wants desperately to get out, and wants revenge for those that put them in deep shit.
The key isn’t to get them to work together, it’s to steal members from group 1 and add them to 2. It’s what the “red pill” is all about.

I went to the forbidden white nationalist websites to argue with them and convince them of white wickedness. Lol! It was going to be like shooting fish in a barrel. Didn't they know that every text book and every media outlet exposed the evil of the white people? Imagine my shock when they told be it was I who had been decieved. I who was ignorant of history. I who had been fed lies to control me. As I began to hear complex challenges to my Anti White ideology and research them, I began to realize how the world really worked. It took many years before I really changed. I began writing Pro White posts attempting to dismantle the lies that I and Billions of others have been raised on. I had to get out of a totally controlled media environment and experience debate in the unrestriced internet to really wake up. The Modern Left can only win if it controls the information. Many of the are shills for corporatists and they explode if you point it out. That is why the internet is a great tool. They can only break their computers or look away. If they want to know truth, they have to face up to some painful revelations on their own upbringing.

I'm talking about how people are implementing leftist ideas in the real world. You are talking about some made up word and theory that you alone are very attached to.

You were much better off under the great ideology of Ba'athism.

Nationalism is anti-imperialism. And M3Wist isn't internationalist since it rejects international revolution by claiming only select parts of the world can be revolutionary communist.

>bioleninism
For the uninitiated, here's an explanation of bioleninism:
bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2017/11/14/biological-leninism/
bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2018/01/21/leninism-and-bioleninism/
nishikiprestige.wordpress.com/2018/03/28/bioleninism-anti-biopraxis/

>In the chart-topping 2017 hatepost “Biological Leninism” King Spandrell illuminated the sociobiological mechanics of communism: Give power to the most demented, most violent, and most ineffective shitizens – they will be more loyal that any gilded marxist academic, because they’re greedy dogs just like everyone else.. the only difference is they’re bad at life.

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