You have ten seconds to explain why you aren't an anarchist in the process of abolishing all unjustified hierarchies
>inb4 anarchy means no rules
It means no rulers, not rules. We can still have the police force and some form of legal system.
>Inb4 anarchy cant work
Rojava, Revolutionary Catalonia, Zapatistas, and the free territory of Ukraine
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Nature wills hierarchy. You’re just at the bottom.
Not an argument
We're not against all hierarchies. Only voluntary and justified ones.
>Zapatistas
>anarchist
lol wat.
>dumbass ameriburger suburbanites whitebois in charge of knowing political movements of other countries
>OP gives me ten seconds
>take fifteen
I am neither a homosexual, drug user or Jewish.
>anarchist
>proceeds to list their LEADERS in the hierarchy
We have rules and rulers to protect weaklings like OP. If OP really doesn't want rules or rulers then fine, just don't get butthurt when society STILL doesn't go your way.
Because Antifags are part of the establishment.
Jow Forums is the most anarchist place on the Internet. Why would anyone here want to join your idiot zogbot group? Especially when your attempt at waifu summoning is a shit-tier BRS ripoff. Disgusting.
Those hierarchies are justified. We are only against unjustified ones.
No hierarchy (or the lack of one) is justified. So? The only man I am ultimately beholden to is myself... why would I associate myself with these idealist freaks...
>Anarchirsm is part of the establishment
Your thinking of neoliberals
Anarcho-communism and political anarchism in general means that large scale states do not exist, this does not mean smaller scale communities (communes) which are democratically self-governing cannot exist. It is effectively a devolution to local self-rule, without a distant and uncaring government in mexico city to take their resources from them.
Because communist unironically deserve to die
Antifa is funded by the globalist, Soros is just using useful idiots to destroy America.
>fuck hierarchies!
>except the one the guys with the biggest weapons dictate!
K.
>unjustified hierarchies
>We can still have the police force and some form of legal system
hmm
>Rojava
gay
>Revolutionary Catalonia
gay
>Zapatistas
who?
>the free territory of Ukraine
kys
Hitler-kun a best.
but I am
I'm curious how you plan on maintaining this anarchist society without it falling to shit with people inevitably looking for order in the form of a ruler
Because I unironically support irrational hierarchies.
But wouldn't the police force have authority over you?
A justified hierarchy is just one that acts as the leadership for a leftist political movement.
Capitalism is hierarchal by nature. You're not an anarchist
We wouldn't have rulers we would have leaders
I'm not a furfag, and I like motorcycles being built, for one.
What mechanisms (if any, since this would be antithetical to anarchism) would be enacted in order to prevent these "leaders" from consolidating control over the population?
>It means no rulers, not rules. We can still have the police force and some form of legal system.
No it doesnt you fucking moron. Anarchy literally means no rules.
>Rojava, Revolutionary Catalonia, Zapatistas, and the free territory of Ukraine
Not anarchic states, try again.
The only true anarchic state is Solamia, and even they are slowly evolving a government.
How could they even consolidate power in the first place? Society would a collection of horizontal federations/communes/collectives.
Are you an anarcho-syndicalist? Should've mentioned in your OP
an is a suffix meaning without or not
archy means rulers. So an-archy means no rulers
name anarchist anything that lasted for 50 years or longer
also what gives you the right to declare things justified in the first place?
here's what i dont get about this crap: why do you think your worldview can even work?
physical resources are limited -> shortages occur -> conflict occurs -> people, being unequal at conflict resolution (aka some are objectively superior, some inferior) unequally survive, some better off, some worse off
all leftist falacies rely on infinite resources for infinite people, on a worldview where everyone is equally rich and everyone is equally capable and all that
but people arent equal, races arent equal, genders arent equal, and there is no reason they should be equal
equality is a false god
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Yes
anarchy is just for useful idiots to be part of their system, they really got you brainwashed....
I benefit from unjustified hierarchies.
You are self-contradicting
Follow my law, and dictation.
I will dictate to you what you must do and accept.
1: Don't do drugs.
2: Don't eat meat.
3: Don't be a Christian.
4: Don't be a Communist.
5: Don't drink alcohol.
6: Don't be a wageslave, get an education for a professional occupation.
7: Don't submit to women.
8: Go to the Gym to keep a healthy body.
9: Don't do any crime.
10: Spread this law to people.
11: Don't be a gay.
12: Don't gamble.
13: Don't instigate war or lead a way that others will declare war on you.
14: Always give a solution that is peaceful to solve a problem without violence.
Accept this law.
Resources would be distributed based on who works the most or based on needs
I'm all for self government, but don't identify as an anarchist since HS since I hate being associated with retards
How is it possible to have an egalitarian society when mass groups of free-associating people would ultimately band together in order to ensure their survival needs by forcefully taking resources?
Who the hell is distributing these resources? How do these redistributors safeguard against the mass population who may disagree with allocation?
There's no incentive to forceful take resources. Barter and trade are much cheaper and less time consuming to do. Plus that barter and trade makes people reliant on each other
Because all hierarchies are by definition justified.
I want a ruler. I want a ruler who will let me drive out the unwashed communist scum and restore my people to greatness.
Then again I didn't come from a broken family and I learned to respect my elders and those who knew more about a subject than me.
I feel bad for what you went through being raised by a single mom or parents who neglected you and I just want you to know bro that it's not your fault. You can still change and become a better person than your father was.
How can you distribute resources when they lack????
Spare me the fairy tales and best case scenarios. In best case scenario, I dont need you or your ideology.
I am asking, how are you going to redistribute resources, when they are lacking? When you dont have enough of them? I am not interested in any other scenarios, all other scenarios are self solving anyway.
>based on needs
And this is why I will never take leftism seriously. Might as well encourage people to be needy. See if gravity gives a shit. See if natural world gives a shit. See if being needy is an argument.
No. The needy will be murdered and cannibalized. Its what always happens to the neediest. Dont be needy. Dont be a leftist. It is a delusion. And it could be too late if you dont figure that out on time.
Can't tell if he's trolling or actually serious.
It's because leftists and anarchists support mass immigration, love niggers, give gibs to unproductive people, hate whites etc. I would gladly be one if you didn't do all these things, you are just turning away people from your ideology.
Cousin?
>We can still have the police force and some form of legal system.
That's minarchy, not anarchy. Anarchy would create a power vacuum that would be filled with assholes.
Reminder to sage all flaggots, especially the underage ones that have no fucking clue what they're talking about.
The producers themselves based on a system of labour vouchers.
There will be people who are socially more inept than others, who will use deceit in order to trade and barter for more of a previously redistributed resource, whatever that may be. Who and what will prevent this from happening in order to maintain egalitarianism?
What if everything is automated but there still isn't enough resources?
99% of basic/midtier resources we have more than enough of. The rest aren't super necessary so people wouldnt really get that mad if there isnt enough for everybody
Are you talking about a post-scarcity society?
To the gallows with you.
lol
There can be some inequality. It just wouldn't get out of control like in KKKrapitalism
Please go on how you would kill people over not getting the latest smartphone
Yes, but nobody knows if it's even possible, at this point it's just a theory. And what mechanism will you use to know how much of something to produce and where to distribute? Capitalism uses price mechanisms.
Don't argue with the deviants and scum, they mask what they trully are by ideology.
you have ten seconds to explain why you don't have a job and live with your parents
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Expose the creature for what it is, filthy garbage and degenerate vermin.
If you're going to use that line of argument you need to provide some examples of what you deem to be unjustified hierarchies.
right now you're promoting a religion not a political movement.
We could computers to help distribute and produce it
Or we execute you.
Ever shit post in real life?
Why didnt you pussies show up last June
That's the problem with you. You think that everyone is the same, everyone is satisfied with the basic shit and that's why communism/socialism will never work AND that's why government always has to force people to be satisfied with the basic shit. Just kys.
You are trash, your made up ideology is irrelevant you are vermin by biology and your actions.
if anarchy were good we'd be failing to compete with an anarchistic nation
instead we laugh at you and you steal our hubcaps for drug money
quite frankly, i think you should be given a fatal dose of fent.
aahahahahahahahaha
go and listen to your own retarded advice then
be happy with air in your lungs
you got the air redistributed to your lungs, you have nothing to complain about, "nothing to lose but our chains", bitch you have internet so why are you spreading leftism??
isnt your society already full of low iq feral minorities who kill for shoes and phones?
isnt half of the leftist movement useless diploma types raging at the market because they lack marketable skills?
entitled leftist scum, think you can study your pink hair basket weaving studies and expect yachts in return
Why are you so salty? Is it unjustified hierarchies stressing you out?
Hierarchy is natural. Just like how growth and death are the basic laws of this place. You can't change the superstructure of your world. Suffering only exists because people fight against this universal law.
Vermin biologically degenerate trash angers me, kill yourself.
Tired of getting beat the fuck up whenever you faggots show up in real life so now you're hiding online in a sad belief things will be any different here. Go home Antifag, this is a board for patriots.
Anarchism as a political philosophy advocates self-governed societies based on voluntary institutions. These are often described as stateless societies,[6][7][8][9] although several authors have defined them more specifically as institutions based on non-hierarchical free associations.[10][11][12][13] Anarchism holds the state to be undesirable, unnecessary, or harmful.[14][15] While anti-statism is central,[16] ANARCHISM ENTAILS OPPOSING AUTHRORITY OR HEIRARCHICAL ORGANIZATIONS IN THE CONDUCT OF ALL HUMAN RELATIONS, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE STATE..[11][17][18][19][20][21][22][23]
Emphasis mine.
"Anarchism is only against unjust hierarchies"
"You support a hierarchy therefore you're not an anarchist"
Pick one.
Shut up kike.
Sage
You have ten seconds to explain who the people you feel are ruling over you, and why its a bad thing before everyone thinks your just a commie dressed in different colors
>There's no incentive to forceful take resources.
Then neither states nor war would ever have existed.
>99% of basic/midtier resources we have more than enough of.
That's not true, and would be even less true if we moved away from a competitive economic system that incentivises things like productivity and innovation.
>The rest aren't super necessary so people wouldnt really get that mad if there isnt enough for everybody
That's not how people work. Envy is a real thing.
Care for a free helicopter ride, fellow anarchist?
There's no such thing as post-scarcity. According to the law of conservation, we'll eventually either use or recycle every bit of matter on the planet until we go extinct. Every resource is finite. Our bodies are finite, everything is finite.
>fellow
Your not an anarchist
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You're dumb system will never work and if tried you would most likly be the first to die
>Sage
Naaah man, its anarchy, there'd be like no system man, and everybody would just share their stuff man. But I'm gonna be really fucking violent about it man.
Fuck you and your leftist inferiority OP
Anarchy can't stand up to a strong, centralized, federal government. It would be absorbed. If it didn't evolve into a tyranny by the socialists that put it into place.
Hierarchies naturally exists. It can't be done away with. Not with Communism nor with Anarchism. The only logical option is to manipulate our ambitions to benefit our people. Capitalism has and is working fine to accomplish this. If anarchism worked, we would have kept it.