Twin study...Homosexuality is NOT genetic

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Duh! Homosexuality is a CHOICE people, like when a priest CHOOSES to rape a young boy! Boom! God just made that boy a gay!

Homosexuality is an imprinting mix up, often resulting from childhood sexual trauma inflicted by a same sex abuser.

The "straight" twin sucked my dick at a Morrisey concert in '93.

>all creatures exist ultimately to reproduce
>homosexuals don’t reproduce
>somehow this isn’t viewed as a brain defect

link fag

it's a gestational defect.

How would anyone get the idea that it could possibly be genetical?

Every single of your ancestors impregnated the opposite gender. Intelligence on the other side is genetical, you imbecile

Here faggot.

orthodoxytoday.org/blog/2013/06/identical-twin-studies-prove-homosexuality-is-not-genetic/

>How would anyone get the idea that it could possibly be genetical?

"I am born this way"

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fyi, twins are gestated together.

kek, faggots are literally dudes who deluded themselves into perversion due to KIKE propaganda

faggots are confirmed kikeslaves

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It's caused from homosexual rape from a young age. It's essentially uncurable, so those afflicted should be put down before they rape young boys themselves.

patheos.com/blogs/warrenthrockmorton/2009/05/21/ariel-shidlo-comments-on-narths-use-of-his-research/

Twin resemblance was moderate for the 3,826 studied monozygotic and dizygotic same-sex twin pairs. Biometric modeling revealed that, in men, genetic effects explained .34–.39 of the variance, the shared environment .00, and the individual-specific environment .61–.66 of the variance. Corresponding estimates among women were .18–.19 for genetic factors, .16–.17 for shared environmental, and 64–.66 for unique environmental factors

from:

Långström N, Rahman Q, Carlström E and Lichtenstein P (2010) Genetic and environmental effects on same‐sex sexual behavior: a population study of twins in Sweden. Archives of Sexual Behavior 39(1): 75–80.

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Yep, homosexuality is unusual in behavioural genetics in that it has a quite low heritability (~10%), whereas most other traits are at the 50% level.

genetic or not, in some way it is biological

>concordance in identical twins is 11%
lefto*ds absolutely BTFO

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Actually studies find approximately the same percent of identical twins who share a trait with type 1 diabetes and homosexuality:

healthline.com/diabetesmine/twins-and-diabetes

about 1/3

>being this retarded

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Did they do any studies to find out if the homo twin was raped by the other in the womb?

Genome-Wide Association Study of Male Sexual Orientation:

archive.is/gdhmT

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Gays have differently sized brain regions:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/1887219/

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H-Y Antigen and Homosexuality in Men

Blanchard, Klassen

1997

In men, sexual orientation correlates with the number of older brothers, each additional older brother increasing the odds of homosexuality by approximately 33%. It is hypothesized that this fraternal birth order effect reflects the progressive immunization of some mothers to Y-linked minor histocompatibility antigens (H-Y antigen) by each succeeding male fetus, and the concomitantly increasing effects of H-Y antibodies on the sexual differentiation of the brain in each succeeding male fetus. This hypothesis is consistent with a variety of evidence, including the apparent irrelevance of older sisters to the sexual orientation of later-born males, the probable involvement of H-Y antigen in the development of sex-typical traits, and the detrimental effects of immunization of female mice to H-Y antigen on the reproductive performance of subsequent male offspring.

The study that got shut down the fastest was the toxoplasmosis in utero exposure study that showed the parasite was linked to homosexuality of male offspring.

The advice to keep pregnant women from cats and litter stems from this very well known fact. Even the comedy 9 1/2 weeks talks about this well known association between cats and pregnant women.

2010

bmcgenet.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2156-11-62

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Female relatives of male homosexuals have 1.3x as many kids:

journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0051088

News article summarizing the study:

archive.is/jH4L3

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Bisexual females have more teen pregnancies:

journalistsresource.org/studies/society/public-health/teen-pregnancy-bisexual-lesbian-heterosexual-women

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Straight males carry gay genes:

chaladze.com/files/publications/Chaladze2016ASB.pdf

Hamer 1993:

jstor.org/stable/pdf/2881563.pdf

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Hamer 1995:

nature.com/ng/journal/v11/n3/abs/ng1195-248.html?foxtrotcallback=true

doi: 10.1038/ng1195-248

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Hamer 2006:

Human sexual preference is a sexually dimorphic trait with a substantial genetic component. Linkage of male sexual orientation to markers on the X chromosome has been reported in some families. Here, we measured X chromosome inactivation ratios in 97 mothers of homosexual men and 103 age-matched control women without gay sons. The number of women with extreme skewing of X-inactivation was significantly higher in mothers of gay men (13/97=13%) compared to controls (4/103=4%) and increased in mothers with two or more gay sons (10/44=23%). Our findings support a role for the X chromosome in regulating sexual orientation in a subgroup of gay men.

Extreme skewing of X chromosome inactivation in mothers of homosexual men

C. E. Roselli and F. Stormshak

2009

The domestic ram is used as an experimental model to study early programming of the neural mechanisms which underlie homosexuality, developing from the observation that approximately 8% of domestic rams are sexually attracted to other rams (male-oriented) when compared to the majority of rams which are female-oriented. In many species, a prominent feature of sexual differentiation is the presence of a sexually dimorphic nucleus (SDN) in the preoptic hypothalamus, which is larger in males than in females.

Roselli et al. discovered an ovine SDN (oSDN) in the preoptic hypothalamus that is smaller in male-oriented rams than in female-oriented rams, but similar in size to the oSDN of females. Neurons of the oSDN show aromatase expression which is also smaller in male-oriented rams versus female-oriented rams, suggesting that sexual orientation is neurologically hard-wired and may be influenced by hormones. However, results failed to associate the role of neural aromatase in the sexual differentiation of brain and behavior in the sheep, due to the lack of defeminization of adult sexual partner preference or oSDN volume as a result of aromatase activity in the brain of the fetuses during the critical period.

Having said this, it is more likely that oSDN morphology and homosexuality may be programmed through an androgen receptor that does not involve aromatisation. Most of the data suggests that homosexual rams, like female-oriented rams, are masculinized and defeminized with respect to mounting, receptivity, and gonadotrophin secretion, but are not defeminized for sexual partner preferences, also suggesting that such behaviors may be programmed differently. Although the exact function of the oSDN is not fully known, its volume, length, and cell number seem to correlate with sexual orientation, and a dimorphism in its volume and of cells could bias the processing cues involved in partner selection. More research is needed in order to understand the requirements and timing of the development of the oSDN and how prenatal programming effects the expression of mate choice in adulthood.

Prenatal Programming of Sexual Partner Preference: The Ram Model

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Sanders 2014:

cambridge.org/core/journals/psychological-medicine/article/genomewide-scan-demonstrates-significant-linkage-for-male-sexual-orientation/864518601436C95563EA670C5F380343

doi: 10.1017/S0033291714002451

Why is it that leftists want to deny biology in everything but being a faggot? Race - Social construct, IQ - environmental, Sucking Cock - IT'S BIOLOGICAL YOU BIGOT!

In the case of blood type and the Rh factor, however, interesting patterns emerged. Heterosexual males and females exhibited statistically identical frequencies of the A blood type, while gay men exhibited a relatively low inci- dence and lesbians had a relatively high incidence (p < .05). In the case of the Rh factor, unusually high proportions of homosexuals of both sexes were Rh- when compared to heterosexuals (p < .06). The findings suggest that a connection may exist between sexual orientation and genes both on chromosome 9 (where blood type is determined) and on chromosome 1 (where the Rh factor is regulated).

Eye Color, Hair Color, Blood Type, and the Rhesus Factor: Exploring Possible Genetic Links to Sexual Orientation

Das S. 2007

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Identical twins are not 100% identical due to differences in womb environment:

Mechanisms for differences in monozygous twins Paul Gringras, Wai Chen, 2001

doi:10.1016/S0378-3782(01)00171-2

Another issue is the recent finding that even monozygotic twins can be different and there is a mechanism which might account for monozygotic twins being discordant for homosexuality. Gringas and Chen (2001) describe a number of mechanisms which can lead to differences between monozygotic twins, the most relevant here being chorionicity and amniocity.[13] Dichorionic twins potentially have different hormonal environments because they receive maternal blood from separate placenta, and this could result in different levels of brain masculinisation. Monoamniotic twins share a hormonal environment, but can suffer from the 'twin to twin transfusion syndrome' in which one twin is "relatively stuffed with blood and the other exsanguinated"

I know most of you are too far up your own ass and are slightly trolling to stir shit up. But this shit is retarded and I am sure many of you are smart enough to know this. Some studies show corelation in twins, other like this dont. Why do you care what causes gayness, but instead what the gay person does?
Being very securely straight, did you ever think about what you want to be attracted to, or just see women and have all the rest come after? Its the same being gay, maybe its genetic abnormality, maybe its just mental illness stuff, but why are you obsessed with it being a choice? The only reason I can conclude is that those who say this are bisexual and choose to exclusively pursue women.

Bailey 1991:

jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/article-abstract/495588

doi: 10.1001/archpsyc.1991.01810360053008

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nytimes.com/1991/12/17/science/gay-men-in-twin-study.html

archive.is/PSmzQ

christiantoday.com/article/research.points.to.genetic.element.in.homosexuality/35856.htm

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xq28

livescience.com/2623-gays-dont-extinct.html

archive.is/32sQz

Scientists find DNA differences between gay men and their straight twin brothers:

archive.is/g3lal

A novel predictive model of sexual orientation using epigenetic markers.

Authors: T. C. Ngun [1]; W. Guo [2]; N. M. Ghahramani [3]; K. Purkayastha [1]; D. Conn [4]; F. J. Sanchez [5]; S. Bocklandt [1]; M. Zhang [2,6]; C. M. Ramirez [4]; M. Pellegrini [7]; E. Vilain [1]

nature.com/news/epigenetic-tags-linked-to-homosexuality-in-men-1.18530

tim-taylor.com/papers/twin_studies/studies.html

scientificamerican.com/article/identical-twins-genes-are-not-identical/

archive.is/MALR3

hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/1961to1999/1993-homosexual-orientation-in-twins.html

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xq28

Androgen receptor gene linked to XQ28

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAGEA11

sciencemag.org/news/2014/11/study-gay-brothers-may-confirm-x-chromosome-link-homosexuality

archive.is/E3my1

okay, so it's 50% in a singular study
that's still lower than intelligence (~65%)
and height (~70%)

Are gays more likely to be pedophiles?

archive.is/gK3Si

>Scientists find found DNA differences between gay men and their straight twin brothers

latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-genetic-homosexuality-nature-nurture-20151007-story.html

Morrissey? Then you were both homo.

that 33 percent thing is so bs. My mom had 1 miscariage, and after that, 4 sons. Im the only gay one and Im the oldest. Wouldnt my youngest brother be like hyper mega gay by this?

That or sexual orientation is polygenetic to the point where you are not going to see it shared in all cases. Identical twins are not actually always identical.

nytimes.com/2018/05/21/science/mosaicism-dna-genome-cancer.html

We’re accustomed to thinking of our cells sharing an identical set of genes, faithfully copied ever since we were mere fertilized eggs. When we talk about our genome — all the DNA in our cells — we speak in the singular.

But over the course of decades, it has become clear that the genome doesn’t just vary from person to person. It also varies from cell to cell. The condition is not uncommon: We are all mosaics.
For some people, that can mean developing a serious disorder like a heart condition. But mosaicism also means that even healthy people are more different from one another than scientists had imagined.

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You must be unaware that different genes are over-represented by homosexuals, like direction of hair swirl,length of index vs ring finger, and making threads like this.

Homosexuality is an illness that should be supressed by those affected, just like pedophilia and other degenerate ways of life.
Marry and have children and never think of homosexuality again. Its the only solution.

>expects me to read garbage with that headline
>isn't aware that the 'gay gene' is in everyone
>not aware that it gets turned on under circumstances (tm)

guess you got me man. Stop flooding the thread with shit none of the gay hating boomers and latin american meme flags here will read anyway

>using the word 'genetical' when you should be using genetic
>insulting anyone else for their intelligence
you make this too easy lad.

i don't know, ask them. just because they're often wrong doesn't mean they can't be right. in this case for example. how can it not be biological in some way or other?

If sodomy is genetically inherited, than how is it passed down? There is no uterus in a fag's colon.
this

Fetishes are developed in the elementary stages of sexual development. homosexuality is nothing more than a dick and ass fetish. Lot's of people have fetishes, but when your first sexual experience, however young (11, 12, 13) is with a guy, you'll probably be partially gay.

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Yep. You see it everywhere. If it was genetic, fags would be bred out of existence

and if you were asked to do the same but in reverse, could you do it? is it reasonable? What harm do gay people have when you ignore the loud vocal minority of sluts and pride fags?

Yes, sexual abuse is what turns people gay. It's a response to a traumatic event and we've been handling it the wrong way by promoting it and creating an identity around it

Shocker. We all know fags come from getting diddled by uncle joe or pastor frank or imam ackhmed

1 women like dick it could come from the mother
2 plenty of gays have sex with women at least once, some are bound to have kids
I mean both sides have interesting points im interested to see data on it. they can't choose it, if that were the case you would get boners from dudes too, you dont do you?

No the reason is most certainly that. I am hetero and the reason I point it out that gay choose to be so is because their debauchery and wickedness is a straying away from human and natural laws. And in the context of my beliefs and Christianity as a whole, they will suffer eternal flame for their choices, yet they’d like to twist the narrative and say God “made them that way”. God doesn’t make you a degenerate, your choices do. So that’s why it’s important to distinguish in my opinion (which doesn’t even matter on a Mongolian card-stacking forum like this one). Even from a non-religious standpoint and going purely by evolutionary, survival of the fittest mentality, homosexuality directly contradicts the “survival of the species” idea so regardless of what end the homo takes it, he still loses.

>Every single of your ancestors impregnated the opposite gender.
Plenty of gay men had families. The theory goes the genes have been passed down this way.

>'gay gene'

"Gay Gene after more than 8 millions years of genetic selection from our ancestors, from Sahelantropus up to today...A Gene that would go against the very principle of the core foundation of a living being, that is to transmit DNA to the next generation"

Yeah of course, there are no "gay genes" buddy, it makes 0% sense from an evolutionary stand point of view. Moreover, there are absolutely NOTHING that indicates in the human anatomy,that gay sex could be genetic, NOTHING. Does the rectum looks like do be designed to allow for sex? Even after 8 millions years of genetic selection ? Hell no, for proof, there are always a lot of diaese, cancers and complication from gay sex, because it was never meant to be used that way. Moreover, gay sex is sterile, thus gay sex is nonfunctional, thus it is degenerate, thus it is deviant, thus homosexuality is not genetic but is a perversion.

Being a natural condition is the only excuse an homosexual might have to be accepted by society.

If it's a just a coice, people may also choose to shun them away.

You are a nutjob only this filthy puritanical morally panicked country could create. You really think two dudes bum fucking is worth all that? Psychotic lunatic. Hey for fun, why doesnt God make us all pure? Is it satan? Why doesnt he kill satan then? Satan must be stronger then god I reckon.

Sounds like it isn't faggot. It's your choice, meaning it's perfectly acceptable to hate you for your willful choices.

Of course it's not genetic. The notion that homosexuality was genetic came about in the late 80s and early 90s with the rise of the Christian right in America. Pro-gay political forces felt that if they could prove homosexuality was an innate characteristic then it would gain mainstream acceptance. Of course almost 30 years later they're still zero proof that homosexuality is genetic. There are some interesting statistical variances in the genetic markers, but nothing anywhere close to conclusive.

A question that never gets asked of pro-gay political forces whenever the claim that homosexuality is genetic is made is, "Which gene?" Because, you know, they are labeled. Which gene or cluster of genes is responsible for homosexuality? That's an odd question that no one seems to be able to answer. Because it's not genetic! In the debate between nature versus nurture, we often study nature because it's far easier. Nurture plays a giant roll but it's difficult to study and because it is a very subjective experience for each individual, far from understood.

Are all birth defects found in the genes? No.
Gay brains are different. The corpus collosum is different than straight people. Gay is a brain wiring defect.
Anyone who has ever known a flaming gay person since they were a small child knows they are NOT choosing it. It’s obvious. I knew my cousin was a fag from 3 years old. All the uncles and dads were like “that boy ain’t right”. And they were correct. He didn’t choose it. Though many do.

> gay choose to be so
So you could get erect for men if you stopped believing in god?
Im agnostic and I don't think I could get it up to guys even if I prayed to the dark lord and joined a satanist 'church'

You get boner from dude?

My wife likes pussy. Always has. She didn’t choose it. It’s just her natural inclination. There isn’t a STRAIGHT gene, so why would there be a gay one?

you are saying it is a choice but i doubt it, i couldnt choose to do that my dick would stay soft.
you could fuck guys if you chose to?
thats pretty gay

Straight males carry gay genes:

chaladze.com/files/publications/Chaladze2016ASB.pdf


Bisexual females and female relatives of male homosexuals are proven to be more fecund (have more kids) than average. In addition, straight men could also function as non-expressing carriers of traits that in certain combinations make one gay.

There are lots of bisexual people who still reproduce, as well as some gay people who still have kids with the opposite sex and then raise them with the same sex, or hire surrogates.

I feel like if you did a solid minute of thinking you could have thought of half of that yourself, certainly armed with search engines you can.

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Because if its a mental illness it can be treated. A lot of people care for other people.

He is probably repressing something. People like this are always pent up freaks due to the insane twisted modifications Americans have done to Christianity. Almost certainly gets off to the thought of being pounded by huge cocked black dudes.

The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = 35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to groups on the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & W. A. Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also completed an Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992). Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.

psycnet.apa.org/record/1996-00463-014

A 1996 study from the Journal of Abnormal Psychology found that homophobic heterosexual men were most sexually aroused by gay male porn than non-homophobic hetero men.

psycnet.apa.org/record/1996-00463-014

A 2012 study of 785 college students published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology found that “self-described highly straight individuals” who “indicated some level of same-sex attraction” were significantly more likely than others to “express greater implicit hostility toward gay subjects” including supporting anti-gay policies.

psycnet.apa.org/record/2012-02599-001

A 2017 study published in the journal Sex Roles said that men who felt insecure about their masculinity were more likely to make homophobic and sexist jokes to appear more manly.

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No one actually thought faggots were caused by genetics. Faggotry is caused by being molested as a child.

Is being gay a mental illness?

psc.dss.ucdavis.edu/faculty_sites//rainbow/html/facts_mental_health.html

Identical twins don't have identical dna, it's almost identical.

Exactly! My choice while aroused is either a wet pussy or her asshole. I am aroused by female asshole.

I am NOT aroused at all by DUDE asshole. Therefore I could not possibly CHOOSE to fuck one because my dick wouldn’t cooperate.

Treat it how? More fucking medications that sap you of everything. We cant treat even common depression.

newsweek.com/life-and-death-jewish-exgay-therapy-organization-406898

The simulated birth is the beginning of a psychodrama-packed weekend spent almost entirely naked. First, attendees of the retreat strip down, and tie on blindfolds. Naked and blind, they are led to mattresses laid out on the floor. Staffers swaddle the men in blankets, tight, to “simulate the womb.” The men then wriggle out of their plush blankets—meant to approximate a birth canal—and staffers “come and kind of nurture these new babies…you know, kind of wipe water on their face, and kind of clean them up, and it feels very real,” Hoffman said. Next, the men play out boyhood, with a “crazy, fun father who like bursts into the nursery and says ‘Come on, boys, let's have some fun together!’” (Downing sometimes played the role of “father.”) By this stage, both participants and staff members are nude. The men are lead out of the “nursery” and into a field, where a “wild party” begins. There’s a waterslide, fireworks and “brotherly dancing” around a campfire. The naked men fling mud and throw cake—laid out for just that purpose—at each other. They’re all “just expressing their little boyish energy” for about an hour, explained Hoffman, who now lives with his wife and child in Jerusalem, where he works as a conversion therapy life coach.

Afterward, everyone showers together. “It's just carefree, you know, if there's cake on my back, can you help me get it off my back,” said Hoffman, adding that the nudity “becomes very secondary.” He explained that if men got erections during the weekend, they were encouraged to talk to a staffer to “process it,” talk about what might be causing it until it went away. In gay conversion therapy, sexual attraction is never just sexual attraction; there must be some sublimated drive, deficit or trauma to be dealt with.

Both Levin and Unger attended PCC’s entry-level weekend: Journey Into Manhood. The core theme is a loose interpretation of the Jack and the Beanstalk fairy tale, in which Jack (played by a staff member) is reclaiming his beans—his masculinity. The participants are awarded a satchel of beans to wear around their necks at the end of the weekend. The script dispels any ambiguity early on:

Jack : So what is up with the beanstalk?

Elder [a second counselor]: The beanstalk is a masculine image, a phallic symbol.

Jack: So the beanstalk is a big penis?

Elder: Well, symbolically, yes.

Thanks dipshit but Im new to this country. Regardless, yes it is worth it. Because we’re human and we terrible “animalistic” sinful lusts and desires. The desire to be lazy, the desire to be ignorant, to experiment with unnatural sexual behavior and the only way we can not turn into the cripple degenerate generation that new gen Americucks are begging for is to resist all the things that cause degeneracy. I hope you and the other degenrate asscanoes like yourself get the world you ask for. And then cry everyday wondering why your faggy children and trans uncles commit suicide at such alarmingly rates.

“Where dur we go wrong?!?”
>he cries chucking back a quarter-pounder while Steve blows him

In another Journey Into Manhood scenario, participants are blindfolded while facilitators bounce basketballs around them in a crude reenactment of grade school gym class, while shouting scripted epithets such as, “Catch the ball next time or I’ll shove it up your ass” and “Hey, guys, let’s get that little queer in the shower.” For another exercise, called “Facing the Feminine,” the floor is littered with “feminine objects,” like a wooden spoon, an apron and a tampon. Participants are blindfolded while counselors shout "Don't touch your penis, it's dirty!" or "I was really hoping you would be born a girl!" or "Can't get it up!" and "You're not the man I thought I married!”

Toward the end of the weekend, participants are emotionally raw, Levin remembers. That’s when cuddling begins.

Spirit Guide [a counselor]: Can you connect to that boy inside you now?

Jack : Yes.

Spirit Guide : Would that little boy like to be touched or held?

Jack : Yes.

Jack and the Spirit Guide then cradle each other on the floor, and the lights go down. Music comes on: Spiritual “life coach” and singer Shaina Noll’s saccharine rendition of “ How Could Anyone .” How could anyone ever tell you that you were anything less than beautiful?/How could anyone ever tell you you were less than whole?

Eventually, all the men are on the floor, staffers cradling participants. Unger remembers staffers whispering “I love you,” “you’re beautiful,” and other affectionate phrases during the cradling—which Downing calls “healthy touch"—as “How Could Anyone” played over and over.

You are begging for people to post man ass

Obvs. The difference is I don't claim to be straight to advance some homophobic "science" crap. This is also why it's ok for tolerant liberal comedians to make fun of anti-gay Christian men by saying "look at this fucking faggot, I bet he loves sucking dick like the AIDS ridden faggot he is" and it's not homophobic, it's calling the disgusting faggot out on his.

There’s a LOT of gay experts in here for claiming to be straight.
Your hatred for gays is very very indicative of your own closeted gay repression. I have lots of gay friends. I’m straight as hell. I don’t wanna hear their tales or anything but I know I like pussy so I don’t care what they like. All I know is they didn’t CHOOSE it. Frankly pussy feels better than ass.

There was a crazy chrstian cult who did something similar to this in New York, got anything on them? It is run by one crazy gay pedophile man.

Get out of this country, spic

Recessive genes, genetic abnormalities, things of that nature. Like, do you know anybody who's family has a history of _______ aliment that seems to affect them more then others? With this in mind, one could argue that a genetic fuckup could be carried down the bloodline and pop up every now and than.


Although that said it makes more sense to me that homosexuals are created rather than made. It also makes sense how (((people))) keep pushing that shit in western societies.

>Your hatred for gays is very very indicative of your own closeted gay repression
this is jewish as fuck, classic psychoanalysis.

Freud was a hack

No it’s not about religious belief, if you choose to engage in degenerate behavior and watch degenerate things you will become what you consume. It’s not rocket science.

It could be, all you linked me are theories. Here have therapist that differs from your opinion.
virtueonline.org/gays-can-change-reparative-therapy-works

Not a beaner either Amerimutt. Kekmate atheists.

We dont hate fags, we hate fag culture.

>AI and the naked human eye can literally tell it from a face in not few cases
>it isn't biological

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More american moral panic bullshit. Got anything else?

Really it’s common sense. It’s not normal to hate something that much which doesn’t really effect you. At all. Take niggers for example. I hate niggers and you probably do too. And THAT is very much justified because their behavior absolutely DOES effect us all. They are dangerous and criminal. Get it now?

I'm not a fan of medications so I hope not.
This interview is interesting though.
virtueonline.org/gays-can-change-reparative-therapy-works

discord gg/pwvH8aX

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These people think gay people are pushing media bias turning kids gay. To them they are all the same. A normal gay like me who keeps his head down is responsible just as much as the kike running the media.

AIDS

kys gayjew

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It doesn’t “WORK”. Successfully repressing and pretending to be what you aren’t is exactly what you hate about “transgender” people. They’re pretending and so are these people.

Underrated