ITT we discuss how to help the West but this time we're realistic. Blackpilled thread

ITT we discuss how to help the West but this time we're realistic. Blackpilled thread.
Pls no brainlets who only talk about "muh heritage" or think that the West will somehow just magically turn far right and get rid of all the niggers. I know you're just going to call me a kike shill so please just don't respond at all.

We know that countries like USA, Canada and the UK are completely lost and will never be white again.
We know that white people will not accept racism and they will never be racist or antisemitic like us.
We know that we won't be able to get rid of female rights.
We know that Christianity won't make a comeback.
We know that white birthrates are extremely low and the contribution of a few Jow Forumstards won't help very much especially considering most of us are incels.
We know that niggers dominate culture.
We know that most white people including right wingers either love the Jews or don't care about them at all.

So, what are some realistic ways to help things get better?
>Alliance with wewuz-type niggers. Most importantly the we wuz Jews -niggers. They have proven to be extremely effective against kikes and if we can get them on our side it will be very helpful. White people saying "real Jews were black" might also make other black people think that they really are Jews. Remember niggers dominate culture.
>Accelerationism. Whites must become a minority in the USA asap, because after that it will only take a few decades for them to collapse or at least their power will decline greatly. So, what I'm saying is we should vote for far left parties so that everything can collapse faster. This will give us less suffering and we will then be able to rebuild.
>Right wing whites in countries that are getting browned with no hope of turning back to white should move to countries that are not browned.

Post your thoughts and more ideas on how to actually and realistically help.

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>inb4 "muh based Russia"
Russia is as controlled by Jews as the USA and Russia has 18 million Muslims. Russia is a third world shithole. All they have is nukes.

The only way to improve situation is esoteric, call it /x/-tier. Physical realm is 100% under control, the only place to fight lies outside of visible world.

Serious answers only

You have no idea how serious I am. Politics, media, birthrates are nothing more than loops on water. You must acquire deeper knowledge of ongoing processes in order to ineract with them. Otherwise it's useless chitchat.

It has been a long time since i saw a /col/ony thread, what happened Jow Forums ?

>We know that Christianity won't make a comeback.
wrong

Jews are disgusting

First step:
CONVERT

you need to weed out the serpents

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Nah hes right, unless you mean among nonwhites. In which case, BASED amirite my fellow christian of the world!

The only thing I'll say to that is: do you have anything that proves religion will make a comeback in native western populations? Stats showing a trend, credible signs that the current situation will reverse besides "everyone will suddenly realise going back to jeebus will fix the west"?

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>>Alliance with wewuz-type niggers. Most importantly the we wuz Jews -niggers. They have proven to be extremely effective against kikes and if we can get them on our side it will be very helpful. White people saying "real Jews were black" might also make other black people think that they really are Jews.

completely unrealistic but heres a funny video youtube.com/watch?v=hLW5dvp57j4
>DAS RITE

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Not before the collapse at least.
I support fundamentalist Christianity and consider religion a necessity. We must remain Christian and then when the collapse happens we can finally help others convert.

Not unrealistic, all we need to do is support the niggers in their wewuzzing. They are the most important antisemites, not us. Niggers DOMINATE culture.
Here's a classic for those who haven't seen it
youtube.com/watch?v=bjvMYtLUvsA

The most realistic scenario I can see is a complete economic collapse.
Welfare niggers would fuck off automatically and in difficult times birth rates go up.

Once living standards start falling and life becomes harder people will turn to religion again. Part of why westerners are abandoning christianity is that they can live comfy secular materialistic lives. Once they can't afford to do that any more (probably as a result of some sort of large economic crash or war) they'll start praying again.

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Yes this is what I'm talking about.
And we can get the economic crisis by blacking America.
Accelerationism is the way

>Niggers DOMINATE culture.
this is true but hebrew israelites (the we wuzzers) are such a small group that they probably wont have much cultural pull. OTOH they have kendrick and kodak black so you may have a point.
youtube.com/watch?v=ZBnHJCB3VZE

But we need to support the Israelites and give them more publicity. They need to get on tv. Jews can't attack them because they are niggers.

sauce?

For the pic ? Jow Forums

I hate gay hentais where some fat fuck rapes the cute boy.
Boner kill

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I smoked dope for 9 years, then with great difficulty I quit. I drank a lot from grade 11 to 2nd year university, then I quit.

I meet nothing but potheads and drunkies all the time and from my own internal observations of my own behavior and my observations of their behavior I can assure you that a bunch of potheads that just want to sit in a comfy chair in the pub drinking beer and watching football on dozens of big screen TVs ain't going to do anything worthwhile with their lives and even if you give them good paying jobs or hell even if they win the lottery they won't do anything worthwhile with it at all. The won't train physically, they won't do any intellectual studying they're trash basically.

The American Revolution involved only 5% of the population; 3% for and 2% against. The rest just wanted to eat drink fuck and view the world they lived in like children needing to be cared for.

1. get tough physically.
2. hit the books; mathematics, physics, history, and yes culture. Read the great novels of Stendhal Dostoyevsky, Conrad Balzac, Dickens and many many others. Read the Viking sagas.

3 Save your money; don't become a mere consumer.

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WHAT THE FUCK ARE BLACK PILLS?

Based

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>Alliance with wewuz-type niggers. Most importantly the we wuz Jews -niggers. They have proven to be extremely effective against kikes and if we can get them on our side it will be very helpful. White people saying "real Jews were black" might also make other black people think that they really are Jews. Remember niggers dominate culture.

You sound like a Jew, and posting that pic also makes me suspicious you are a Jew.

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I always believed the negro made the greatest slaves not just for their tolerance to extreme work and temperature, but their susceptibility to be indoctrinated. They were whipped until they were relinquished of their names, their identity and their religion. When they discovered the religion of their masters they instantly prayed for salvation. Even if it was just a loophole that Christians couldn't be slaves.

My suggestion would be to bring back the clan. Instill people to become card carrying members. Hire white employees with a token black who will be treated in good terms and they will think that racist does not equal evil. It's getting to the point that if you want to marry white and have kids the same color as you than you're a racist.

To strip minorities of their identity yet again, we need to breed the black out of them, literally. Instead of the one drop policy, a ratio of 1/4 black to white would be a good starting point to bring them to a generation of 1/8 black. Making them unable to associate with any blacks in their lineage.

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Tl:dr eugenics but taking the whitest blacks and making them whiter until they are as sour against niggers as slaves were going back to Africa

>memes are reality
You'd be surprised at how redpilled "normies" are. Shame you never leave your basement.

>The only thing I'll say to that is: do you have anything that proves religion will make a comeback in native western populations? Stats showing a trend, credible signs that the current situation will reverse besides "everyone will suddenly realise going back to jeebus will fix the west"?
Not him, but yes, look up the stats. Christianity is the biggest religion in Europe, the biggest in the World and blows everything else out of the water. The only religion that is dying is atheism.

whitepill shower thought: once diversity is finally destroyed and it's followers systematically removed from power by any means necessary, it will be the last time the white genocide cycle ever plays out because whites will be in control and be seen in the international community as objectively better stewards of the global stability than jews. and it will be such a widely recorded cultural revolution unprecedented by anything before that the founding myth of how whites restored benevolent white world will be engrained in future generations of centuries to come.

Have strict immigration policies that value homogeneity of culture.

I call mongrel Germans Bubenhausers, I don't know why. All I know is I want a big titty fashy raving Goth girl

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The only solution is to spit out the black pill and stop believing all is lost. If all is lost, like you seem to think, nothing matters anymore. Therefore, believing that all is not lost will not matter either. If all is not lost, believing otherwise will only destroy us. If all is not lost, and we don't believe it is, we can steer the society towards a better future.

Here's a revised list:
We believe that countries like USA, Canada and the UK are not completely lost and can be white again.
We believe that white people will accept racism and they will be racist or antisemitic like us.
We believe that we will be able to get rid of female rights that are destructive.
We believe that Christianity can make a comeback.
We believe that white birthrates can be high again and that Jow Forumsacks can contribute to this considering that most of us pure and intelligent.
We believe that niggers will stop dominating the culture.
We believe that most whites will stop caring about Jews completely.

You bitches never answer me when I ask what a black pill is.

noice. Take this

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You have NO idea.

Recently there was a Pew study about Christianity in western Europe. Over 70% consider themselves Christians. Of course, most are non-practicing, but GET THIS: It's not about going to church or something, it's about having a Christian identity that ISOLATES YOU FROM JEWS, MUSLIMS AND IMMIGRANTS.

The conclusion is: The more Christian you are, the more intolerant you are.

Can't find the study online, but it was by Alan Cooperman and here's a German article about it:
pro-medienmagazin.de/gesellschaft/gesellschaft/2018/05/29/christen-grenzen-sich-staerker-von-muslimen-ab/

US isn't lost yet, Canada is. UK Showed signs of life with Ohh tommy tommmyyy
White people absolutely will accept racism again if its proven and the social stigma of racis m changes back.
Christianity wont that is unfortunately true.
Birth rates are will come back as well once media over sexulization drops and other factors
Nigger culture like every other will run its course, it's already starting to fade.
White people more and more are realizing about jews, just not willing to say it aloud yet. The recent SJW push on Israel for killing innocent Palestinians really helped that.

We must target gen z and school age kids and get them to start forming white "gangs" that stand up for any other white who stands off from non-whites.

Basically, imagine a high school. 2 white girls are being harassed by niggers; 1 of them dated blacks in the past while the other avoids talking to blacks as much as possible.

The white kids should jump the nigger harassing the 2nd girl.

Basically; if you're pro-white, you have other people to watch your back but if you aren't you are on your own.

We need to start with minors because theu can avoid a lot of the legal and economic consequences of being pro-white, and they can have this mentality instilled in them at a young age and instill it in younger whites.

Depression and acceptance of reality as dark, hostile and hopeless. It's a red pill without hope. It's a way to see reality as it is without changing your own behavior in any way.

And its definition should be evident from the context, if your IQ is not nigger tier.

Alot of these things like Racism and Jews is much like why Trump won. The majority of middle/low class white men believe but don't want to deal with the ridicule for saying it out loud. That's why every poll said he'd lose but once the votes came in he won.

>56% including North Africans and Arabs is not lost
Lol

And all your points are very optimistic and assume that somehow the Jew owned media will be on our side.
Stupid New Worlder.

I got the biggest black pill of them all then, if it is true. Which I hope it isn't.

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>Birth rates are will come back as well once media over sexulization drops and

Honestly it's going to ramp up. More mainstream movies in the next decade will have explicitly sexual scenes (like showing actual penetration and real oral sex).

>Over 70% consider themselves Christians. Of course, most are non-practicing
Kek these are atheists who simply say "non-practicing" to avoid the fedora meme.

>We know that countries like USA, Canada and the UK are completely lost and will never be white again
Largest group of people outside of white British in England are White Polish.
Meanwhile Finchink calling other people non white.

Jew owned media won't be on our side. I'm optimistic that the new age and free flow of information eventually this shit can be put down and fixed. Better to be just optimistic enough to put effort in than be a gloomy edgy emo cunt.

Nope, Jews are gonna censor us. The average normie is far too brainwashed. We can not come back from this other than by letting everything be destroyed so we can rebuild.

user, please don't be mad but meme magic is real and I use it here in the usa. Notic the word d-u-b-s is disabled

>I don't want it to be true
The Fedora meme doesn't exist in western Europe.

>The average normie is far too brainwashed.
The average normie is Jow Forums without the obvious extremist shills and schizos.

Is that why Hillary isn't in jail yet and Trump has shown his true zionist colors?

Compliment someones digits, I dare you

You make good points, but you really know nothing about my country, so:
>fuck off
>crawl back to your igloo

Lol, no solutions here.

There's still expectations from family and community
>Yeah mom I'm totally not atheist, I just went to church six months ago :^)

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No. The average normie is anti-racist, pro-Israel and a complete degenerate

I know your country elected a nigger as president 10 years ago. I know your country has gotten much darker since then. I know your country is a Jewish puppet. I know whites are going to become a minority in your country very soon but you people are still too dumb to see that the USA is lost.

Once the West collapses and non-Whites become more radical Whites will be forced to become racist again.

>>Alliance with wewuz-type niggers. Most importantly the we wuz Jews -niggers. They have proven to be extremely effective against kikes and if we can get them on our side it will be very helpful. White people saying "real Jews were black" might also make other black people think that they really are Jews. Remember niggers dominate culture.

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And so our goal should be to accelerate the process. VOTE GREEN, LIBERAL, LEFT WING.

Submit to Samurai overlords

It will be like Shogun times but with gundams

Their best men will reproduce with our waman and our best men will reproduce with their racemixers

Both will still be super majority non racemixed and the weak will be trained to reach their potential nicely but firmly with tough love. Shitskins will be cared for like pets in their own sovreign nations as they are taught how to function on their own so they don't have to be an underclass in an advanced nation. They will have role models to look up to. The best of the east shall be taught to the west and the best of the west shall be taught to the east.

Yin Goku Aryan and Yang Vegeta Samurai will take everyone on Earth wherever we wish to go alive no matter what challenge comes at us. Goku needs his chichi waifu to teach his kids to not be so spiritually retarded and Vegeta needs his Bulma to teach him love is powerful too.

This is all vague shitposting but it is an interesting idea
>Pic related
Dark hair Japanese warrior spirit inside beautiful aryan genetics.

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>that pic
I r-read that saga just for the story, I s-swear

Unfortunately voting for these parties is partaking in a grave sin, and basically joining them. We should just wait, until the collapse happens. But yes, this slow dying shit is terrible, I wish it would collapse immediately, and kill all race traitors and feminist/liberal scum.

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>Basically; if you're pro-white, you have other people to watch your back but if you aren't you are on your own.

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Pathetic. Putting your pride above the race you care so much about.

You are tainted.

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I'm realistic. We have no chance, prolonging the inevitable collapse will simply give our children and their children more time to suffer.

The ends justify the means.

Voting/aiding the adversary is partaking in their evil, however, enticing them to commit their own folly isn't.

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Brainlet mindset. This is why the Jews always win, dumb people holding on to pathetic ideals over what really matters in the long term.

You think I am evil because I want our suffering to end sooner?

The physical realm and our animal instincts is the black cube they want to imprison us in

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>You think I am evil because I want our suffering to end sooner?
Of course not, but if you lobby for evil things, you are tainted with their evil. Be a racist, the left will become more extreme, no need to lobby for degenerate and evil things. If you accelerate your racism, they will accelerate their anti-racism and leftism.

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Why would I, I'm not gay.

>There's still expectations from family and community
Not really.

>The average normie is anti-racist, pro-Israel and a complete degenerate
This is what Jow Forums actually believes.

The left becoming more extreme wouldn't help us or speed the collapse, it would slow it down. More people would see the left as evil and they would turn to the right wing. Of course, this would not be enough and the Jews would still win.

The only thing I lobby for is the collapse. If I have to do it by supporting the greens and the niggers then that is what I will do.

what country are you?

>Become a pale nigger
Learn from the Japanese kid ffs

Trust me, he knows better than the whiteboys, he just doesn't fit in and has weaker genetics

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>The left becoming more extreme wouldn't help us
Of course it would.
>it would slow it down.
No it wouldn't, when the left becomes more extreme then the collapse is near.

>If I have to do it by supporting the greens and the niggers then that is what I will do.
Dumb idea, you should allow them to become more extreme. You sound like a Jew anyway.

Them becoming more extreme will put normies on alert and they will start to see the left as bad guys. It will not help us because it would strengthen the right.

I believe this is what you're looking for:
archive.li/Mx9he
HOW TO WIN A CULTURE WAR

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In the short run: anything that makes the economic
system colapse faster + meme wars.

In the long run - underground eugenics programs on a massive scale.

>Here's where it gets crazy.
The countries that have central banks are connected and ruled by the Rothschilds.
Said countries are indebted to them, while debt is between countries, to banks, to the Rothschild family.
The politicians are puppets.

We all know these, of course. The fall comes as the current system cannot sustain itself any longer. Most likely many people will die and suffer, but change can only come from the fall, at least as I see it.

Most historical happenings point to the fact that the social degradation reaches a point where it is too much to bear for the average populace. When that happens, change will be introduced, most likely something akin to socialism / communism which will surely kill the white race, culture, and western / eastern European countries.

At that moment nationalists must come together to fight the menace separately, but together. That is how we win, we win the people with the truth, showing direction and helping the people, our respective peoples. If need arises, we help other brother nations in need.

I see this as a viable way, BUT it requires a lot of education, preparation, and communication not just between individuals but groups of nationalistic institutions or movements.

On female rights, as soon as the females are being raped and attacked openly (already happening) they will turn redpilled, and will increasingly require help to even walk outside. At that point feminism is as good as dead, and men must step in to protect their group.

Problem is, most white males are effeminate and pussy-like. If you are a fat fuck, but would like to help, best way is to become a primal man who works out, eats healthy, prepares for the worst. It is as much as a personal development of physicality as with ideals.

Are you retarded? Oh wait, you're a kike, that's right.

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Meme wars where the right wins are HURTING us. They are prolonging that economic collapse.
If Hillary had won and she had flooded the USA with spics and Muslims it would have been good. If Trump gives citizenship to DACA recipients it will be good.

The collapse happens when we become the minority. It won't happen before that.

The left must win so that they can fail and so that people will finally open their eyes.

This is what I'm saying and this is why we should speed up the process. Be good goyim and vote for liberal parties.

No, I'm not retarded. You need to look further than "muh left wing will be more radical and they will start bringing in more niggers".
This is what happened in the USA, lefties got radical, normies got upset and elected Trump.
Trump of course isn't going to stop the USA from losing its white majority, he's simply slowing it down.
If your point is something else then please explain.

Not what I meant by the right and left becoming more extreme. People support Trump because they're cowardly douchebags afraid to go 1488.

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are you implying that r/The_Donald is full of scared cryptonazis? Then why do they love based black guys so much? Why do they accept coal burning?

No that would be counter productive. One should vote and work together with nationalistic elements just behind the scenes. Channel your inner Jew. Also promoting non-materialistic values is a good idea.

Vote for the right, but if anyone not your friend asks, you are a good leftist, love diversity, etc etc.

I'm serious our only hope is to abandon kike world and form a new farming culture

takes one to know one kike

How is it counter productive? A vote for the right is either a vote wasted or a vote used to lengthen our suffering.

The only way to achieve anything is to first destroy everything and leave people desperate and hopeless.

We need Christians to stop aligning themselves with modern PC culture and align them with more nationalistic, traditionalist views. Especially the higher church leaders, ones who preach to a large base. Some do already. If we can ally with them for nationalism across the West, then we'd have a much, much stronger support base. We can least ally with them to oppose Islamification.

(((They))) hate white Christians and want to suppress them as much as they can, but Christianity still is the biggest religion in Europe, for now. Big Christian foundations could have a lot of non-kike influence if we can utilize it well. Many Christians are closet nationalist or conservative-lite already. We just need to uncuck them.

Sorry it took almost 100 replies for a serious answer OP but here it is.
gwern.net/Embryo-selection#improvements
infoproc.blogspot.com/2017/11/the-future-is-here-genomic-prediction.html (Stephen Hsu is a scientific avisor to BGI-Shenzen, not some random blogger retard)
tl;dr PGD w/ IVF basically. 10 years away. This century will be a ride.

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Destroy the grid and send us back to the dark ages. That is our only chance at salvation.

Realistically, we can't organize in that way. We far right anti-semites can not organize today. Too many of us are too scared to let others know how we really feel. No chance.

Our only realistic method is acceleration. Vote left wing and wait for it all to collapse.
Then we can finally tell the people how we feel, then we can bring back traditional Christianity, then we can win again.

Anyone who understands history and society knows that once a significant decline occurs, it rides all the way to the bottom. The only logical thing is to become self - sustainable and raise your family in such a way that your basedness passes on generation after generation, so that your kids 10 generations removed know what's up