Lets discuss ways in which independence of each of the regions from this country can be achieved.
Everybody is welcomed to leave a subjection.
>also no lol gypsy I want a real discussion thread
Lets discuss ways in which independence of each of the regions from this country can be achieved.
Everybody is welcomed to leave a subjection.
>also no lol gypsy I want a real discussion thread
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Why would you want to weaken your country though?
Because we have different problems faction each region along side different ethnicities that have other culture and values.So in order to solve this its best to break the country up.
facing*
That actually wouldn't be a bad thing.
>send all gypsies to Bulgaria
Give back our land
Well they will have to vote after the independence if they want to join or not, but at that point it wouldnt be our problem.
Beaking off our country would be useless.
Why do you think that?
Lol gypsy....saged.
Because we mongrelized each other and because as we can see being centralized isnt good for the wealth of each region.
t. the Eternal Hun
I am not a Hungarian but a romanian from the Wallachian region.
Romania IS balkan
Been there, seen it.
Mongrelized? You think Wallachians, Moldavians and Romanians living in Transylvania are different people? Please explain.
You are on Jow Forums ffs, just say that you want a seperate state for gypsies instead of being vague with quotes like "different ethnicities that have other culture and values"
>not a Hungarian
>but a romanian
I see what you did there you eternal bozgor, you'll get the rope soon enough
bc independent regions worked out so well in the past... tu nu realizezi ca 90% din mileniul trecut romanii au avut regiunile "independente", iar din lipsa unitatii am fost asupritit de alte popoare si macelariti in casele noastre?
t. dobitoc
Western Hungary is Mongolia and eastern Hungary is India.. I mean Tiganistan
Been there, seen it
We have different phenotypes along side admixtures due to different exposure from the people who conquered us.Not to mention we lose our individual culture.
Please stop I asked for a civil discussion not a you are a gypsy thread.
I support this but with the spice of romanian genocide
bă coiță îmi place că atunci când am fost pe la Sfântu Gheorghe şi Covasna unu nu ridicați capu' din pământ când întrebam ceva pe româneşte, da' pe internet sunteți mari smardoi, futu-vă neamu' de bozgori laşi.
Why would you want to Balkanize Romania? That just seems like a dumb idea to me, but if you could redpill me on this than that would be great
For the last time I am not a hungarian but valahian, I know it might be hard for you to understand this but its the truth.
fuck off back to hungayry you disgusting hunmutt
I'll roll through you and your family like its 1919
Just give Transylania to Hungary and get Moldova to be a part of your country.
>be such a fake meme nation that you make up words for the people you stole land from to make up for your inferiority complex
>Hungarians have better claim to Transilvania than Romanians ever did. Even on the sole reason of not being a loyal cumrag to the turkroach for centuries.
Prove me wrong cygan.
Okay I will try my best, think of us like the nordic people we share almost the same language but with differences from region to region, also we share different phenotypes because we have been influenced by different people that either migrated through our lands or conquered us.
Now at this point Romanian doesnt work because of centralization, each region suffers a lot because of that and dont evolve like they should.
Another important things is that people from each region mix together making a new mutt people with no tie to anything instead of respecting the achievements of their forefathers and the culture that made it all possible.
No redpilling, the Magyars in the 3 counties where they have a majority think they can achieve federalisation which would facilitate joining Hungary itself, but that is not going to happen.
Something along the lines of Yugoslavia with made up ethnicities such as "Moldovan" or "Wallachian". It would be like Vojvodina and Raška randomly secceded.
vezi că valah e exonim, în română e muntean
Remember what the greatest Romanian of the 20th century said when you suggest such things and stop sending your half Turk mutts to shit up my town.
As I said after the independence of each region, the Transylvanian country can vote if the want to be part of Hungary or not.
Germans have a better claim to Poland than poles ever did. Even on the sole reason of not being a loyal cumrag to the russian for centuries.
Prove me wrong, german-kazakstani rapeseed.
It's either a shitposter or a retard.
No one in Romania wants this, except maybe the retarded hungarians from 3 counties that are so fucking moronic that not even Hungary wants or cares about them.
People outside of the country dont know what that means so no point in using it.
we call them "people without a nation" for a reason
stay mad faggots
>11th century illegal immigrants from Khazakstan and Mongolia calling all their neighbours "fake nation"
>The turkish rapefugees of the 11th century
Pic related.
1 in 3 hungarian "youths" are gypsies.
Interesting...
How common is this in Romania (Ie some people wanting to secede) I imagine it's not very much
The whole idea still seems bad to me.
what the hell is a poland?
Some people want to federalize, others such as the hungarian minority want independence.I for one want each region to be independent again and to be allowed to keep our culture and people alive.
>I imagine it's not very much
Only among hungarians.
They will sooner ally and recognize hungarian speaking gypies as "hungarian" than see a romanian, a serb or a slovakian as "ethnic brothers".
The hungarian is a ethnic non-white illegal immigrant disease and must be wiped or forcefully removed back to its native lands in Khazakstan and Mongolia.
Literally just the Szekeleys (A turanic people which learned Magyar sometimes in the 14th century and look like literal shitskins, look it up) in Covasna, Harghita and Mures (the poorest counties in our country) want this. Not even the leftists or liberals want that, even the real Hungarians in the west of our country think it's retarded.
its only common in people with non romanian descent (gypsies aka hungarians)
come and take it bitch
It's not common at all.
We're about to celebrate 100 years since what we call the Great Union when we got Transylvania. It's most cherished moment in the history of Romania.
No one wants it except like I said a small number of hungarians in the center of the country that were to retarded to leave when we got Romania and constantly bitch about their independence but no one cares and all our political parties, except the hungarian minority one that's popular there, shits on them on a regular basis.
For start we could try and federalize like this for starters and then see how things work, if there is no problem then maybe in time we can get each region to be independent.
>Be Romania
>Don't exist at all until late XIX century
>Be various irrevelant voyvodships
>Be loyal vassals to the turk with only a single important chimp out
>Nearly all battles you look up of the Ottomans in the XV century and onwards - theres heroic romanians on their side
>Poles launch a crusade with Hungarians and Brandenburgians, romanians fuck it all up in Cosmin Forest
>Fastforward centuries since romanians did literally nothing of significance
>WW1 times
>Romania being pussies, don't join right away, instead wait for a great moment to strike
>Attack Austria-Hungary on the whole front
>Lose terribly
>Be humiliated, turned into a german puppet, sign a peace treaty
>Join the war again literally A DAY prior to the war ending
>Grab bunch of lands you have no claim to and never did
>Only be relevant in the mid XX century due to oil
>Ally with Hitler, be a nice bitch and just take it in the poophole while he gives his way better ally - Hungarians some lands
>Attack the Soviets with Hitler
>Be widely considered the worst soldiers on the eastern front, even worse than Italians
>Stalin comes knocking, be a fag and just switch sides
>Stalin installs a commie gov
>Fastforward again since AGAIN nothing of notice happens
>Spring of Nations happen
>Romania the only one with a bloody revolution
>Do jack shti again
>Join the EU
>Be the poorest country in it
why even live Radu?
Come say that in Szekelyfold filthy Roma, we'll see how fast your filthy lying mouth gets smashed in
Ce faci vlad, wtf
>to be allowed to keep our culture and people alive.
I see no reason why you wouldn't be able to do it as a single nation
I'm not a biggest fan of Hungary but damn dude, calm down
>They will sooner ally and recognize hungarian speaking gypies as "hungarian" than see a romanian, a serb or a slovakian as "ethnic brothers"
Is this true? It's kinda hard to believe, If there's any Magyars here please answer me
>Szekeleys
>A turanic people which learned Magyar sometimes in the 14th century and look like literal shitskins, look it up
Don't know, I just looked them up, some of them look really shitty and other ones look relatively normal
Anyway sorry if it took me long to reply
>Help polish soldiers, government, treasury and civilians escape Hitler in WW2,
>Give them refuge and shelter in Romania DURING the occupation of Poland
>Get shit shitalked on an anonymous chinese plastic board by a fucking pole in 2018
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Nice one POOland, very fair and kind of you.
Keep sucking hungarian dick for a meme friendship, while we have a proven alliance for centuries before hungarians even existed (they are illegal immigrants in Europe, the equivalent of Pakistan forming in London).
Do it
>Moldova reunifies
>Transylvania cucks Hungary
>Wallachia reforms the roman-bulgar kingdom
Then we unite again under dacian name and flag
Godspeed frați ;)
We cant do that because my region, Wallachia is the richest because the capital being in it and because of that everybody moves here and we mix together losing thus our genetics but culture in the process also, since at the end of the day there isnt a universal Romanian culture contrary to what other will tell you, but instead its form of patches of culture and traditions from each region.
>Szekelys
pic related. just compare that to the ethnic shitskin Romanians who have half middle eastern DNA
I did that lmao, I was in Covasna in February, I'm 178 cm tall myself,not tall to be honest. Most of the people there are way shorter, darker skinned than Romanians or Hungarians and with pretty ugly facial features. You are an aging region, your youth understood they have no future there. Your cities other than Tg. Mures which is 50/50 are pretty much dead already. You are a dying people, and will disappear in maximum up to two generations due to globalisation.
>Inferiority complex
>WWI
>1919, as if Trianon wasn't enough
Get BTFO'd, mutt.
román cigány
>Be Poland
>WW3 starts
>No help from Romania
>Cease to exist again
kys russian colony
>Is this true?
Come here in Mures where I live and in Bihor where my grandparents are.
I will show you gypsies with hungarian citizenship that voted Orban because that's what their mayor told them.
Gypsies in Transilvania mostly speak hungarian, not romanian, the first schools were in hungarian hundreds of years ago and they included gypsies but excluded romanians.
>proof
>(Gypsies) They first appeared in Hungary in the 14th and 15th
>>Gypsy groups were even granted privileges, first under King Sigismund(1387-1437) and King Matthias(1458-1490), right up to the beginning of the 18th century.
>>Maria Theresa enacted a decree prohibiting the use of the name "Gypsy" and requiring the terms "new peasant" and "new Hungarian" to be used instead.
>>She placed restrictions on Gypsy marriages,ordered gypsy children to be taken away from Gypsies, so that they could be raised in hungarian "burgeouis" or "peasant" families.
>> Joseph II even prohibited use of the Gypsy language in 1783.
>>the Gypsy population end up assimilating in Hungarian society, in 19th century
>A new wave of Gypsy immigration occurred in the second half of the 19th century
Source: Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Budapest, 2004
mfa.gov.hu
Also see this post
Hungary colonized itself with gypsies, as the map shows.
We're not going anywhere Radu, we've beaten all challengers and this is a a temporary situation. We're like a cancer that will destroy Romaland from the inside. We will sell you to the Russians the first chance we get.
>We're not going anywhere Rad
>Amerimutt flag
Bye bye, bozgor LARPer.
>No help from Romania
Implying that makes any amount of difference
We are still missing some clay, but yes the three major parts of Romania are united.
Some hungarian minority leaders are making some noise.
And in northern border counties some shit has changed requiring all new beurocracy hires to be romanian Hungarian bilingual and increased animosity between the two instead of friendly and drunken spats.
Remember history? Remember how almost al of it the principates were vassals or autonomus territory to a larger power.
Let's do that again, instead of being the south/central strategic anchorpoint of the small/large Intermarrium version and the second or third largest population and economy.
In a vacuum something like this might work. A federalization might work. (If the seps in Transylvania changed their rethoric to this all Romanians would vote for it in said region- still a majority who would remain with Romania come hell or high water)
Fpbp if only it was a statement about op and a questioning of cannons parentage and ethnicity.
>Soviet era scrap metal vs 2018 rockets and planes
That's not exactly what I meant, I meant to ask how an average Magyar feels about gypsies
>We're not going anywhere Radu
>lives in America
You dont need to balkanize you fucking fagot
A federalization and decebtralization should be just fine to fix our problems, now gtfo with that separatist shit before i make you a brother.
>>lives in America
It's called vpn you gypsy mongrel
You faced no challenge different than the Romanians. The Magyars ruled Transylvania for 1000 years, yet in 1918 the Romanians still had relative majority, even in the north that Horthy got in 1940.
We are ruling Transylvania for 100 years, and yet the demographic shift is already too pronounced for the Szekeleys and Magyars to even have a chance anymore in the future.
It is only going to be worse and worse, you just were on the losing side when it mattered the most.
Must be really triggered fucking gypsy. dont hide your roman flag. everybody knows you are a filthly gypsy
Federalization can be a start yes but the end goal should be independence.
Which you have none of I presume.
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827 combat tanks
tanks make little to no difference these days since we have rockets that can take them out easily
die alone retarded pole
implying Romania is still a thing in 100 years
I just gave you hungarian written hystory by their Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
What the fuck do you think when it says "privileges" since the 14th century to the 20th century?
>>>Maria Theresa enacted a decree prohibiting the use of the name "Gypsy" and requiring the terms "new peasant" and "new Hungarian" to be used instead.
>>>She placed restrictions on Gypsy marriages,ordered gypsy children to be taken away from Gypsies, so that they could be raised in hungarian "burgeouis" or "peasant" families.
They think of them as hungarians for 300 years ( en.wikipedia.org
OH NONONONONO
>cygan on suicide watch
A lada with steel plates isn't a tank, Lukacz
>Remember how almost al of it the principates were vassals or autonomus territory to a larger power.
Just like how Romania is now regardless of the fact that it "unified"?
Rude
>Moldavia and Wallachia used gypsies as slaves
>meanwhile Hungary gave them privileges
Why are they like this?
>ancestors fought for 1000 years to unite Romanians
>let's break it up
Neither is your armored transport vehicle design.
I'm not a romanian
Yes, people in different regions of the country are different. Genetic tests confirm it. The fact that the Carpathian Mountains cut through the middle of the country did not go without consequence you doofuses.
The flag reveal was fucking savage
I presume you're an expert.
>muh ancestors did something that means it should stay that way forever
> 90% din mileniul trecut romanii au avut regiunile "independente", iar din lipsa unitatii am fost asupritit de alte popoare si macelariti in casele noastre?
Nu s-a schimbat nimic din punctul ăsta de vedere. Toată regiunea întru-totul este mai pașnică acum, dar asta nu are nimic de a face cu faptul că există statul România. Este un fenomen global: Pax Americana.
>Why are they like this?
Idk. Perhaps german rulers?
Bulgaria and Greece also used them as forced labor force, wasn't slavery in the traditional sense (chains, death, genocide, unfortunately).
Only Hungary gave them privileges and assimilated them.
Hungarians are illegal immigrants from Asia (Mongolia and Khazakstan)
Gypsies are illegal immigrants from Asia (India and Pakistan)
They're natural allies, ethnic brothers.
>be Romanian
>btfo polaks, Leși, every time
>just because you don't like papists
Also
>be vlach Shepherd
>take care of your sheep's
>hunt zimbrii, European bizons, get honey, work the land
>bozgors come
>they say something in a horse language you don't understand that sounds funny
>but the bozgors look angry
>they scream and wave their short yellow hands in air
>they look at you with small black eyes(even on the horses they look up to you)
>whatever. jpg
>Some hundred years later: Ottomans attack
>you form your states just because this seems to be the trend that century
>fight bravely and lose with dignity
>After another 700 you finally put the bozgors in their place, they started to be annoying
not that much but I know some stuff
>No one in Romania wants this,
Nonsense. Plenty of us do.
Anyway we are getting sidetracked, the point of this thread was to find a way to achieve independence of each region.In order to do something like this what would the be necessary to be achieved politically it and what legal problems might appear in doing so.
The bozgor exists solely to suffer humiliation at the hand of its betters.
Auschwitz yourself subhuman
No Romanian wants this. If they want it, they're not Romanian.
>Kike or ally disregards historical precedent. Pushes for his shit and poisons the well for the good solution by telling his end goal.
>Or southern tax moocher wanting to herd in the opposite direction because he rightly fears the loss of trnasilvanian and dobrudgean tax revenue for the local communists barrons and their socialist subsidied enclaves.
As I recall the plan was to ensure a secure supplyline from Constanta via the common border so the Germans won't simply close the Baltic Sea.
Russian andvance made that a bad plan in hindsight.
Sad the Intermarrium got torpedoed by territorial disputes.
Hope this time around Orban is just talk about Greater hungary and we can get it done and leave the EU close to the ITALEXIT so you EURO zone don't get hit with the euro crisis
>anyone else suddenly getting more jerked around by capcha?
>lose argument
>redefine the meaning of words
Frumos. Marș în morții mă-ti de aici cu astfel de exerciții semantice.
Actually we used them as forced labor too, but that stopped once the Ottomans arrived
>wasn't slavery in the traditional sense (chains, death, genocide, unfortunately).
I mean if they're there you might as well get some use out of them
>Hungarians are illegal immigrants from Asia (Mongolia and Khazakstan)
Actually from eastern Urals, the closest related language to Hungarian is Mansi i believe
si cand pax americana dispare ce sorti de izbanda crezi ca vor avea statele romane independente? Exact 0! Suntem inconjurati de inamici care ne vor raul. Asa a fost intotdeauna si asa va fi mereu. Doar impreuna putem sa ne dezvoltam tara!
Anul acesta salariul mediu brut este 1000 euro, iar cel net 600. In aproximativ 6 ani salariul mediu brut va ajunge la aproape 1800 euro, iar cel net la 1000. Tara se dezvolta dar dureaza timp
Why not compromise?
>agree to return Transylvania
>give it to the Germans instead
>laugh at epic szekely butthurt