Trey Gowdy and Marco Rubio

>Well, well, well. The bipartisan Beltway establishment has apparently had its fill of this “Trump colluded with Russia” narrative — the same narrative the same establishment has lustily peddled for nearly two years. The Obama administration recklessly chose to deploy the government’s awesome counterintelligence powers to investigate — and, more to the point, to smear — its political opposition as a Kremlin confederate. Now that that this ploy has blown up on the Justice Department and the FBI, these agencies — the ones that went out of their way, and outside their guidelines, to announce to the world that the Trump campaign was under investigation — want you to know the president and his campaign were not investigated at all, no siree. What could possibly have made you imagine such a thing?

>And so, to douse the controversy with cold water, dutifully stepping forward in fine bipartisan fettle are the Obama administration’s top intelligence official and two influential Capitol Hill Republicans who evidently pay little attention to major testimony before their own committees.

>Former National Intelligence director James Clapper was first to the scene of the blaze. Clapper concedes that, well, yes, the FBI did run an informant — “spy” is such an icky word — at Trump campaign officials; but you must understand that this was merely to investigate Russia. Cross his heart, it had nothing to do with the Trump campaign. No, no, no. Indeed, they only used an informant because — bet you didn’t know this — doing so is the most benign, least intrusive mode of conducting an investigation.

>Then there are Senator Marco Rubio (R., Fla.) and Representative Trey Gowdy (R., S.C.), General Clapper’s fellow fire extinguishers.

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>Rubio is a member in good standing of that Washington pillar, the Senate Intelligence Committee, which has had about as much interest in scrutinizing the highly irregular actions of intelligence and law-enforcement officials in the Clinton and Russia probes as Gowdy’s Benghazi committee had in revisiting Republican ardor for Obama’s unprovoked war on Moammar Qaddafi. (That would be: roughly zero interest.)

>Rubio told ABC News that he has seen “no evidence” that the FBI was gathering information about the Trump campaign. Rather, agents “were investigating individuals with a history of links to Russia that were concerning.” The senator elaborated that “when individuals like that are in the orbit of a major political campaign in America, the FBI, who is in charge of counterintelligence investigations, should look at people like that.”

>Gee, senator, when you were carefully perusing the evidence of what the FBI was doing, did you ever sneak a peek at what the FBI said it was doing?

>May I suggest, for example, the stunning public testimony by then-director James Comey on March 20, 2017, before the House Intelligence Committee — perhaps Representative Gowdy, who sits on that committee, could lend you the transcript, since he appears not to be using it. Just so we’re clear, this is not an obscure scrap of evidence buried within volumes of testimony. It is the testimony that launched the Mueller probe, and that sets (or, better, fails to set) the parameters of that probe — a flaw the nation has been discussing for a year.

>Comey’s House testimony was breathtaking, not just because it confirmed the existence of a classified counterintelligence investigation, but because of what the bureau’s then-director said about the Trump campaign (my italics):

>”I have been authorized by the Department of Justice to confirm that the FBI, as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election and that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia’s efforts. . . .”

>That is an unambiguous declaration that the FBI was investigating the Trump campaign. That is why, for nearly two years, Washington has been entranced by the specter of “Trump collusion with Russia,” not “Papadopoulos collusion with Russia.” A campaign, of course, is an entity that acts through the individuals associated with it. But Comey went to extraordinary lengths to announce that the FBI was not merely zeroing in on individuals of varying ranks in the campaign; the main question was whether the Trump campaign itself — the entity — had “coordinated” in Russia’s espionage operation.

>Gowdy’s fire truck pulled into Fox News Tuesday night for an interview by Martha MacCallum. An able lawyer, the congressman is suddenly on a mission to protect the Justice Department and the FBI from further criticism. So, when Ms. MacCallum posed the question about the FBI spying on the Trump campaign, Gowdy deftly changed the subject: Rather than address the campaign, he repeatedly insisted that Donald Trump personally was never the “target” of the FBI’s investigation. The only “target,” Gowdy maintains, was Russia.

>This is a dodge on at least two levels.

>First, to repeat, the question raised by the FBI’s use of an informant is whether the bureau was investigating the Trump campaign. We’ll come momentarily to the closely connected question of whether Trump can be airbrushed out of his own campaign — I suspect the impossibility of this feat is why Gowdy is resistant to discussing the Trump campaign at all.

>It is a diversion for Gowdy to prattle on about how Trump himself was not a “target” of the Russia investigation. As we’ve repeatedly observed (and as Gowdy acknowledged in the interview), the Trump-Russia probe is a counterintelligence investigation. An accomplished prosecutor, Gowdy well knows that “target” is a term of art in criminal investigations, denoting a suspect who is likely to be indicted. The term is inapposite to counterintelligence investigations, which are not about building criminal cases but about divining and thwarting the provocative schemes of hostile foreign powers. In that sense, and in no other, the foreign power at issue — here, Russia — is always the “target” of a counterintelligence probe; but it is never a “target” in the technical criminal-investigation sense in which Gowdy used the term . . . unless you think we are going to indict a country

>Moreover, even if we stick to the criminal-investigation sense of “target,” Gowdy knows it is misleading to emphasize that Trump is not one. Just a few short weeks ago, Gowdy was heard pooh-poohing as “meaningless” media reporting that Trump had been advised he was not a “target” of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe (which is the current iteration of the Russia investigation). As the congressman quite correctly pointed out, if Trump is a subject of the investigation — another criminal-law term of art, denoting a person whose conduct is under scrutiny, but who may or may not be indicted — it should be of little comfort that he is not a “target”; depending on how the evidence shakes out, a subject can become a target in the blink of an eye.

>So, apart from the fact that Gowdy is dodging the question about whether the Trump campaign was being investigated, his digression about “targets” is gibberish. Since the Obama administration was using its counterintelligence powers (FISA surveillance, national-security letters, unmasking identities in intelligence reporting, all bolstered by the use of at least one covert informant), the political-spying issue boils down to whether the Trump campaign was being monitored. Whether Trump himself was apt to be indicted, and whether threats posed by Russia were the FBI’s focus, are beside the point; in a counterintelligence case, an indictment is never the objective, and a foreign power is always the focus.

"This isn't a big deal guys and actually it makes the FBI look worse. This is why.."

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>Second, if Gowdy has been paying attention, he must know that, precisely because the Trump campaign was under investigation, top FBI officials had qualms of conscience over Comey’s plan to give Trump a misleading assurance that he personally was not under investigation. If this has slipped Gowdy mind, perhaps Rubio could lend him the transcript of Comey’s testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee — in particular, a section Rubio seems not to remember, either.

>In the interview with Ms. MacCallum, Representative Gowdy further confused matters by stressing Trump’s observation, in a phone conversation with Comey on March 30, 2017, that it would be good to find out if underlings in his campaign had done anything wrong. This, according to Gowdy, means Trump should be pleased, rather than outraged, by what the FBI did: By steering an informant at three campaign officials, we’re to believe that the bureau was doing exactly what Trump suggested.

>Gowdy’s argument assumes something that is simply not true: namely, that the Trump campaign was not under investigation.
Such a specious argument. So disappointing to hear it from someone who clearly knows better.

>First, the informant reportedly began approaching campaign officials in July 2016. It was nine months later, well after the election, when President Trump told Comey that if would be good if the FBI uncovered any wrongdoing by his “satellites.” Trump was not endorsing spying during the campaign; the campaign was long over. The president was saying that it would be worth continuing the FBI’s Russia investigation in order to root out any thus-far-undiscovered wrongdoing — but only if the FBI informed the public that Trump was not a suspect (an announcement Comey declined to make).

>Second, Gowdy’s argument assumes something that is simply not true: namely, that the Trump campaign was not under investigation. As we’ve seen, Comey testified multiple times that the FBI was investigating the Trump campaign for possible coordination with Russia. The bureau was not, as Gowdy suggests, merely investigating a few campaign officials for suspicious contacts with Russia unrelated to the campaign.

>That norm was flouted by the Justice Department and the FBI, under the direction of the Obama administration’s senior political leadership. Representative Gowdy, Senator Rubio, and General Clapper maintain that the Justice Department and the FBI were just doing what we should expect them to do, and that we should applaud them. But this claim is based on the easily refuted fiction that the Justice Department and FBI were not investigating the Trump campaign. The claim also ignores the stubborn fact that, if all the Obama administration had been trying to do was check out a few bad apples with suspicious Russia ties, this could easily have been done by alerting the Trump campaign and asking for its help.

>Instead, Obama officials made the Trump campaign the subject of a counterintelligence investigation.

The FBI is unsalvageable. Finis.

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Good shit user do you have a link or something?

Why do you guys hate Rubio so much? He's literally a leader of the Tea Party. I thought you guys loved the Tea Party. They're a hardline, ultraconservative group dedicated to cleaning up Washington. Why do you oppose that?

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Just released in nevertrumper national review. It’s scathing.

Liddle Marco is a disgusting statist loser who reviles everything the MAGA movement stands for. Same for Gowdy. MAGA has crushed and run over the bones of the totally comp'd "tea party" movement

Yeah must be the new Andy McCarthy? Spread that shit far and wide. The facts are in. Trump was right about everything. High crimes and misdemeanors took place to try to thwart him

It’s an abomination.

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You would think the other NRO faggots like david french would read their own publication. It’s good to have McCarthy on board at least.

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99.9% sure his name should be LIDDLE Trey Gowdy and the Deep State has blackmail pedo pics of him

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He has that look.

True. Another guy i'm concerned about is Judge Nap. Judge Nap was one of the OG whistleblowers on the entire FBI disaster in handling the Clinton investigation, but all day and night today he was really pulling a lot of shit back sounding just like Gowdy. Idk what the deal is with him right now but he's not a loyal voice IMO that Trump should be listening to

He is another sexual degenerate pervert who got caught up in a blackmail scheme. Practically the only high profile guys who are clean are Nunes and Gohmert.

>Summaries of the interviews, known as 302s, were released by the FBI last year.

>A review of those documents conducted by The Daily Caller shows that Mills and Abedin told Strzok and Laufman that they were not aware of Clinton’s server until after she left the State Department.

>“Mills did not learn Clinton was using a private server until after Clinton’s [Department of State] tenure,” reads notes from Mills’ April 9, 2016 interview. “Mills stated she was not even sure she knew what a server was at the time.”

>Abedin also denied knowing about Clinton’s server until leaving the State Department in 2013.

>“Abedin did not know that Clinton had a private server until about a year and a half ago when it became public knowledge,” the summary of Strzok’s interview with Abedin states.

>But undercutting those denials are email exchanges in which both Mills and Abedin either directly discussed or were involved in discussing Clinton’s server.

>“hrc email coming back — is server okay?” Mills asked in a Feb. 27, 2010 email to Abedin and Justin Cooper, a longtime aide to Bill Clinton who helped set up the Clinton server.

>“Ur funny. We are on the same server,” Cooper replied

>Mills and Abedin were also involved in an Aug. 30, 2011 exchange in which State Department official Stephen Mull mentioned that Clinton’s “email server is down.”

>And in a Jan. 9, 2011 email exchange, Cooper told Abedin that Clinton’s server had been malfunctioning because “someone was trying to hack us.”

>“Had to shut down the server,” wrote Cooper, who told the FBI in his interviews that he discussed Clinton’s server with Abedin in 2009, when it was being set up

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FYI napolitano is gay.

Is his tie really purple in this pic? I really hesitate to bring it up bc it detracts from the main point so we’ll articulated in this article. But every fuckin time with the purple tie!

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>easily refuted fiction that the Justice Department and FBI were not investigating the Trump campaign.
Its not easily refuted because it is not true.
The FBI had actionable intel that Russia was trying to game the election.
Why is this so hard for you to understand?
If the FBI got wind that Russia was doing the same with the Clinton campaign, they would have taken similar steps.

>Practically the only high profile guys who are clean are Nunes and Gohmert.
This i believe. i am eager to see / read a new interview from Nunes. He is always 100% straight

I think he is a dandy who is into purple, but he is 100% with the demons, so it’s a legitimate observation. Wray, too.

gotem

They both wear purple ties almost exclusively. Look them up on an image search

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>Wray, too
Yep, I remember people noting when he walked into his confirmation or some other event with a disgusting purple tie on

Kill yourself.

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If wray also, then why did he get appointed by Trump as an interim director?

The only way that makes any sense at all is if you didn't know, or you were intentionally setting him up.

Nice flowchart faggot.
Doesn't change the fact that Gowdy was a prince of Jow Forums until you idiots got word that he is not going to go along with Trump's tinfoil retardation about the FBI.

>so we’ll articulated
>we'll
>we will
Learn the language Chao.

gowdy has always been a pedophile, faggot. i.e. prince of brockboi

>Wow you guys supported him, but now that it looks like he's not actually your friend and maybe even a criminal, you don't support him, what's up with that, are you hypocrites??

*Insert liberal caricature image*

congrats on being a meme

do you really think trump personally picked all his people? he delegated and made some bad mistakes.

Got any evidence of that?
Of course not.
If there were evidence available he would have resigned by now.
Jesus, every fucking time you idiots. Automatic pedo accusations for anyone who does not toe Trumps line.
>Abandoning a person you used to adore because he is sane.
Nice.
The theory that the FBI is somehow against Trump is fucking stupid and completely unsubstantiated.

He was always big talk no results. One of the most perfect embodiments of the type of politician in congress that regular people and MAGA voters despise. How many times could him and his other House cucks had Obama and Clinton dead to rights over such heinous shit like IRS, Benghazi, Fast and Furious...now you see why with Trump in there. They would all put on little play fights with each other. R's would request shit and talk big talk to FOX, and the DOJ and FBI who are really the ones running the show would just say "haha no you get no evidence" and Gowdy and Chaffetz and Issa would just go "Ohh ok thanks for getting back to us." These fucking coward traitor fake patriots are DONE. Most are walking away on their own but guaranteed every last one will be purged out under 8 years of Trump

the point of the flowchart, you illiterate faggot, is to succinctly illustrate that there was no russian involvement- only a brennan circle jerk.

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Jesus fucking Christ, can we stop using the word "narrative" for every single thing?

This is pretty good user, saved and checked

You didn’t read it, did you? Here you go, fruitcake. Read it and weep.
nationalreview.com/2018/05/trump-campaign-spying-obama-administration-investigation/

>National Review
HAHAHAHAHAA
>Obama deployed counterintelligence agencies.
Bullshit.
Obama didn't even know about the investigation until the FBI had already began investigating.
The FBI does not run every action by the President to see if they should move forwards you dolt.

Hook, line and sinker. I swear.

>got evidence of gowdy’s pedophilia
we can pick you out at fifty paces. it oozes from you. it’s on your skin. It’s in the way you walk. it’s your filth. brock has it. podesta brothers have it. comey has it. gowdy has it. shepard smith has it. you have it.

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Yep, Trump-loving National Review. Also, read pic. Yes, this was an Obama thing.

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And here I was thinking that you do it because it the best way to perform character assassination of people who disagree with your politics.
Finally, I can see that you simply have a 6th sense that can identify them.

Keep telling yourself that.

>Sixth sense
Your skin, faggot.
It’s in the message, shill.

*UFO NOISES*
THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE
*DA DA DA DUM DUM*

>recognizing a pedophile, an ability any normal two year old human is capable of is a conspiracy theory
>strzok’s own words are a conspiracy theory
but accusing people of conspiracy theories isn’t, how did you say it...
>”because it the best way to perform character assassination of people who disagree with your politics”.

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>One of the Bill Clinton aides who helped set up Hillary Clinton’s secret email system was suspected by Chelsea Clinton of uploading spyware on Clinton Foundation computers, new emails released by Wikileaks show.

>In the Nov. 4, 2011 email, the former first daughter alleged that longtime Bill Clinton aide Justin Cooper was caught red-handed uploading spyware to two Clinton Foundation employees’ computers.

>Clinton also claimed that another Bill Clinton aide, Oscar Flores, believed that Cooper was reading his emails.

>Cooper was interviewed several times by the FBI as part of its investigation of Hillary Clinton’s private email system. The aide helped develop the system along with Bryan Pagliano, a former Clinton campaign official who would go on to work at the State Department.

>“Ilya physically saw/caught Justin a couple of days ago reading his bberry and loading the same spyware onto his computer that he loaded onto Bari’s computer,” Clinton wrote in the email, which was addressed to John Podesta, Clinton’s State Department chief of staff Cheryl Mills and two lawyers conducting an internal audit of the Clinton Foundation at the time.

>Ilya is likely a reference to Ilya Aspis, a special assistant to Bill Clinton at the Clinton Foundation. Bari is Bari Lurie, an assistant to Chelsea.

>“Oscar told my father he knows Justin reads his emails,” she also wrote, likely referring to Oscar Flores, another longtime Clinton aide

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Christ these people sound like fucking snakes. Each and every one of them spying on, manipulating or lying to some other person. Nothing genuine about a single one of them.

These are the psychopathic aristocracy that America rebelled from in the first place.

basically.

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