Why do republicans hate electric cars and green energy
Why do republicans hate electric cars and green energy
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>electric
>green
Lemme just toss a few more tons of coal into the incinerator to turn the turbine that charges your electric car.
there are tons of nuclear power plants across america. my state has 4 at last check
Because they are paid puppets for fossil fuel industries.
Still less than 30% of the power supply last i checked.
I have solar power and use it to charge my vehicle. Stay mad billy bob.
coal in a central generator is better than gas in many tiny ones
oregonian here
outside of Portland & Eugene is entirely red
don't make the mistake of thinking everybody is like you, son
we're not all that stupid
because its a lot less "green" than (((they))) tell you
U.S. electricity generation by source, amount, and share of total in 20171
Energy source Billion kWh Share of total
Total - all sources 4,015
Fossil fuels (total) 2,495 62.7%
Natural gas 1,273 31.7%
Coal 1,208 30.1%
Petroleum (total) 21 0.5%
Petroleum liquids 13 0.3%
Petroleum coke 9 0.2%
Other gases 14 0.4%
Nuclear 805 20.0%
Renewables (total) 687 17.1%
Hydropower 300 7.5%
Wind 254 6.3%
Biomass (total) 64 1.6%
Wood 43 1.1%
Landfill gas 11 0.3%
Municipal solid waste (biogenic) 7 0.2%
Other biomass waste 3 0.1%
Solar (total) 53 1.3%
Photovoltaic 50 1.2%
Solar thermal 3 0.1%
Geothermal 16 0.4%
Pumped storage hydropower3 -6 -0.2%
Other sources 13 0.3%
Why do I hate over priced, under performing bullshit?
Gee, it is a fucking mystery.
Why do leftist tech companies only support leftist states?
Because we can do math.
Solar that exclusively powers your electric car?
I call bullshit.
how does Arizona have dealerships if they can't sell there?
Because Electric cars are so much slower and weaker,
Try using your brain, my house has solar and I plug my car into my house. Fuck people are dumb in red states.
Do you know how much carbon is burned just to make the batteries for these cars? You’re better off buying a used car than a new one
Your house is exclusively powered by solar (he asked already knowing the answer)?
Prove it.
Why do Dims hate White people and decent manners?
>many employed directly/indirectly by the oil industry
>consuming oil industry propaganda
>cultural group think
Is it really that hard to comprehend?
this
>Why do republicans hate electric cars and green energy
because leccy cars are homocars and green energy has fuck all to do with frog strength thereupon worthless to know about and use.
Cuz its overpriced shit.
They are very expensive and inconvenient compared to gasoline-powered vehicles.
Oil/fossil fuels are fucking fantastic.
It is so good that faggots who claim to be completely against it use themall the time, directly or indirectly, knowingly and wittingly and would hate their lives if it magically vanished.
But your own map shows several red states okay with it.
Environmentalists throw a fit over nuclear. It's the best way to reduce emissions and fearmongering has won out
because its still to expensive versus fossil fuels
if people weren't massive faggots about nuclear energy it would be win win
They'd rather keep using a finite resource and let civilization collapse.
It can easily be done dude, it's not 2002 anymore
doesn't Texas have the most wind turbines in the nation? That being said, I think the states don't allow electric cars because of some agreement with actual car companies. Obviously they are just in their lobbyist pockets. Also green energy at it's current state is just meme energy(outside of hydro and geothermal). It's incredibly inefficient.
Ironic.
Isn't production of the batteries in electric cars incredibly environmentally unfriendly?
That’s fucking bullshit in phx there is a goddamn Tesla factory
Because the pollution and toxic biproducts that gets spewed out when making the batteries for these things eclipses that of traditional combustion engines over the life time of the vehicle.
>it can easily be done
He asked if it was, not if it can be done ya dumb fuck. Also the answer to that is no, it can't. Not reliably through out the year. Especially in winter when the cloud cover is almost constant.
South Dakota raised its speed limit to boost gas tax revenue, and does a whole slew of shady dealings with ethanol producers, but I'm unaware of any law that makes it illegal to sell tesla cars. Soory you don't get your tax credits hippies.
You would be correct. The amount of shit that comes out as a byproduct of making a battery was greater than what would be produced by a traditional combustion engine over the entire life cycle of a car.
It's always sunny here. Especially in the winter.
how come you conveinently forget all the effort and oil it took to bring you that gas you keep filling your car with.
Right, it just magically comes from the pump
Roscoe Wind Farm in Abeline, Texas is the 3rd largest wind farm in the USA.
The batteries can be taken apart and their bits reused. Tesla, for example, recycles the cooling fluid, wires and electronics in its batteries. The rest is smashed to smithereens, melted down, separated into component metals and recycled. You literally have to mine the resources once and they can be used forever. The lithium, nickel and carbon atoms don't disappear.
Try recycling the gasoline from your car.
>HURRR! TESLA IS THE ONLY ELECTRIC CAR!!11!
How about the Nissan Leaf, the Jaguar I-Pace, Audi E-Tron, BMW i3, Kia Niro EV, Hyundai Kona EV, all released in 2018? Elon's meme cars aren't the only ones out there, not to mention the Chevy Bolt EV that's coming out in 2019. That should be plenty of choices for anyone wanting to buy an electric can in states that Tesla doesn't have dealership rights in.
Cool, so how do they build those lithium batteries?
Lol love it when the party of the free market is against the free market.
I didn't forget about it, since the trucks that move that gas run on diesel, which is actually far cleaner in emissions than gasoline. The point is, the trucks are also internal combustion engines, and they still produce less pollution than what it takes to manufacture just one car sized battery you chuckle fuck.
fewer people live in red states so tesla is less likely to spend time building charging stations and pushing for sale
sage
>like green energy
>can't have green energy if you're not willing to convert massive amount of space into extremely ineffective energy production because nuclear energy is evil
Even the enviromentalist retards here are buying into this retarded rhetoric and we have no tsunamis or fault zones/volcanos here.
>Tesla, for example, recycles the cooling fluid, wires and electronics in its batteries.
None of which has anything to do with how the battery itself works. Why do eco fags always try to deflect away from this subject?
>put wind turbine on car
>start driving down road
>unlimited power
How can people not understand this?
Another solution
>get electric car
>attach alternator
>it charges the battery when tye belt spins
>unlimited power
Like seriously why hasnt anybody thought of this yet?
They don't, but they're so beholden to the Big Three they won't allow direct auto sales.
how do they build those internal combustion engines?
coal is dying cleetus
And you still have to put that shit back together, which still requires the same process of pollutants to do. I mean, do you just not think this shit through or do you think that "green" technology is some magical self contained ecosystem that doesn't still rely on the same manufacturing methods we use to make everything else?
fossil fuel cucks on suicide watch
Republicans refuse to believe the truth. That solar will eventually be the only power we need. All we need is better batteries now.
Whoa goy. You dont know that will produce uhh...back carbon which is 6 gorillion times worse for the environment.
And what's your plan for stopping luffy?
these are obviously paid oil company shills
nobody could be so fucking retarded to think that filling up your gas tank with gasoline every days and burning it is less polluting than driving an electric car which has zero emissions
>party of the free market
>Connecticut
>Vermont
>Rhode Island
>Delaware
>Colorado
These are states controlled by democrats moron.
lithium ion is not eco friendly.
Thats what the battery is for duh.
Hydro costs alot of money in terms of concrete and maintenance. Electrical production is secondary to water management, but I get your point.
The best way to reduce energy bills is to stop being such wasteful consumers. Cut every cost in maintaining, heating/cooling your home. geo thermal is actually a great idea, but upfront costs are still up there and can be great if you already have a well on your property that produces enough water. Wind energy is a meme, ethanol doesn't pay unless you have close by markets for ddg and corn oil (even then it still gets fucked by market speculation.) Nuclear is probably the best option for energizing large grids, natural gas is also a good way to go if power consumption is stable.
With about 5% of the resources used to build Tesla batteries.
colorado is blue on the map
nice try adding a fake one thinking nobody would notice u dirty shill
>Hydro costs alot of money in terms of concrete and maintenance.
>Hydro-Québec is a state-owned enterprise based in Montreal. In 2015, it paid CAD$2.36 billion in dividends to its sole shareholder, the Government of Québec. Its residential power rates are among the lowest in North America.[4]
now ur just making shit up oil company shill
this map is misleading
most of the infrastructure for electric cars is limited to big cities and their immediate suburbs.
the electric car grid would look more like this
And those batteries will come. Cost is going down by double digits annually. Within 10 years we'll have affordable 1,000 mile range electric vehicles on the road.
THIS KILLS ALL THE PAID KOCH BROTHERS OIL COMPANY SHILLS ITT
No, Electric Cars Don't Generate More Overall Pollution Than Gas Cars
thedrive.com
minus the black bible belt
>zero emissions
>what is the metric fuck ton of pollutants that is produced when manufacturing the battery
Leafs, everyone.
Norway has 99% renewable electricity and is booming with Teslas.
Why Norway is full of Teslas
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>ethanol doesn't pay unless you have close by markets for ddg and corn oil (even then it still gets fucked by market speculation.)
I think the problem with ethanol is that we are propping it up as a fuel with tens of billions of dollars in subsidies every year.
>Why Norway is full of Teslas
oil $
Look at southeast then compare to pic related.
What did they mean by this?
i love how paid oil shills pretend like building a regular internal combustion car suddenly doesn't cause any pollution
let alone the mass pollution of driving that piece of shit and filling up the gas tank every time
interesting as a lot of blues states don't allow tesla sells. like it looks nearly even tbqh. i think the biggest obstacle to tesla isn't your political bullshit oh "hurr its republicans AND THE RUSSIANS!" but rather whether or not car dealerships are lobbying hard to prevent tesla from entering. since tesla wants to sell directly, a lot of states / counties / cities and such have laws that prevent direct call sales from manufacturers. they have to go through an independent dealership.
obviously you can still buy a car from say ford directly, but you have to do it online / phone and have them ship it to a dealer to pick it up. ford can't just setup their own store in downtown phoenix and sell a car for example.
yeah no shit
they have a state owned oil company and $1 TRILLION in the bank
wtf i love socialism now!
what do u burgers have? $22 trillion in debt lmao
nbim.no
they made $130 billion last year
Norway’s sovereign-wealth fund raked in a $131 billion return last year — here’s why
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Just put one of these in the engine, guaranteed unlimited power
nowhere near even
nearly all blue states allow
nearly all red states block
Does someone have the net figures for Tesla's subsidy vs the big 3? All the figures I see Tesla Shills and Counter Shills shilling are gross and mean nothing.
>oil company shill
The oil companies don't shill on Jow Forums. Thats JIDF, ADL, Shareblue, and other pro democrat organizations. The oil companies don't give two fucks about whats said about them on Jow Forums. They're not trying to change culture like the other fuck nuggets are.
lmao u shill for Big Oil for free?
Second part, you just described an alternator
Manufacturing the car = zero emissions
Electricity from power plants = zero emissions
LOL
>Muh saving the environment
How much do these faggots love smelling their own farts?
>it had nothing to do with opec countries over producing in an attempt to kill US fracking the last 6 years
Lol. Only morons like yourself.
See:
u realize that's way less polluting than filling up your gas tank every few days and burning all that gas into the atmosphere
No, Electric Cars Don't Generate More Overall Pollution Than Gas Cars
thedrive.com
how retarded are u people
i love how u fossil fuel shills are now arguing that coal is very polluting. i agree btw
u do realize that shows gas prices going up right u fucking retard
>bernstein
what fuel does a tesla 3 consume? lmao
No, Electric Cars Don't Generate More Overall Pollution Than Gas Cars
thedrive.com
u paid oil shills are hilarious
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO this is from Hong Kong
YOUR ENTIRE ARGUMENT IS THAT COAL IS VERY POLLUTING AND WE NEED TO GET OFF COAL. I AGREE AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
>“Electric vehicles can work in places where there is a very low carbon intensity in electricity generation, but more than 68 per cent of electricity [on Hong Kong Island] comes from coal.”
>bernstein
>BURN STEIN
>(((BURN)))
the gasolilne jew
>Union of Concerned Scientists
>does not take manufacturing into account
Paid opposition research. Congrats on taking the bait.
Really makes me hmmm.
I'm a NEET. I have no job. If I could be paid to shill on Jow Forums I would be living the good life. But no. I'm just not a brain washed leftist dumb fuck and know the actual facts about what it takes to build a fucking car sized battery, which you keep ignoring.
Again, the creation of one car sized battery shits out more pollution than a single modern internal combustion car does in 10 years. I also failed to mention that these batteries only last 5-6 years before they need to be replaced by a brand new one.
Why are Tesla sales banned in those states? Every free market capitalist should be outraged.
the fule in the generator to make the electricity/solar panels/wind turbines.