To those who are anti-gay, what problems do you have with gay people? Does it stem from non-sexual behavior (talking, walking, mannerisms), or is it solely the sexual activities that are seen as problematic?
Also, why do gay white men act like straight black women?
I hate liberals and commies and almost all gays are either one or the other for some reason so I hate gays.
Homosexuality and "gay" behavior is instinctively repulsive. Sane heterosexual males are hard wired to find it disgusting.
But what specifically? The spectrum for both of those groups is entirely broad, and that's not even considering the chunk that misunderstands or falsely attributes beliefs to those systems of thought.
I don't think you have the authority to speak for the whole group (I'm a fairly sane straight male), so why not give your personal opinion? Is it sexual or non-sexual behavior you find repulsive, or is it both? Any examples of a particular behavior that pisses you off?
I thought I was specific enough. I don't see what's hard to understand here.
They're degenerate and only have fucking on their mind.
I'm not anti-gay, per se. I honestly don't care if two dudes want to fuck each other. My issue is that, for so many (or at least the more visible and vocal ones) their entire identity is based upon their sexuality. If they'd stop shoving it in people's faces and parading around with dildos hanging out of their asses while wearing unicorn horns and fairy wings, most people wouldn't give a fuck.
Straight people don't need to go around reminding the entire world that they're straight, because, again, no one gives a fuck.
tl;dr They're obnoxious cunts.
Faggots need to stop being so open. So many make there entire identity about what kind of sex they have, It's degenerate.
Fair point, figured you could elaborate. It's okay if you can't/don't want to.
Would you leave a child alone with a homosexual?
Uncanny valley "+" vomit reflex "x" supreme arrogance "-" humility "/" complete inability to do, say or create anything without inserting homosex in it. Cosine attracted to young boys and lying about it.
Absolute genetic malfunction. Related to Actual (hands over the ears and screaming banging head into walls) Autism. Shares similar lisp. They all should be destroyed.
That is my problem with them. It's the world's problem with them.
The Bible. No other answer is neccessary.
Romans 1
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Interesting, you both have pretty similar views.
Some would argue that it's social signaling. Gay men overtly acting like women to signal which group they belong to.
A follow up question - do you consider gay men to still be "men"? Does overtly gay behavior make it harder to accept gay men into the social group?
Honestly, they are complete genetic dead ends. Why would you care about culture, and society, if you have no heirs to carry the torch into the future?
The flamboyant ones are fucking annoying, the ones that don't "seem" gay are much better as they actually act like rational men.
I can understand that. Most people aren't fundamentalists though, they tend to cherry pick what fits their beliefs, so that the belief comes first and the evidence merely supports it.
Were you okay with gay people, but then read that it was morally wrong in the bible, and changed your stance on it? Or did you always feel it was wrong?
>ay gurl, u want sum fuck?
careful goys...(((he))) will end up using your words in a meme somewhere on facebook
Homosexuality isn't just a simple difference of preference. The entire "LGBT" community is absolutely defined by being a hyper sexual pervert.
The self-righteousness. Why are many gay people so obsessed with making sure everyone that can see or hear them is 100% sure they're gay in less than 10 seconds? They're one dimensional caricatures. They're also disgusting and have comically high rates of STDs from being giant whores. I await the day being a gay white male isn't good enough for the oppression Olympics and they're abandoned by the left to die alone. Nothing a gay hates more than a lack of attention.
It doesn't require heirs to understand why it is important for the human race to continue on. Gays may not be attracted to the opposite sex and unable to have children, but it doesn't mean they don't care about the world. I'm not sure where you got that idea from. Most gays openly shill for a cleaner environment. This alone shows they care more than most of the right wing about the future.
>why are you anti-gay
I wasn’t until leftist establishment society made it manditory to shove it in the face of every man woman and child in the western world. Gays and the like make up a minute percentage of the population and the parades and shut get more and more degenerate every month. We’re not far from full blown orgies in the street.
>The entire
You may want to be careful when you use terms that make you argument easy to disprove.
I don't even care what gay people do with their spare time. It's just infuriating that they try to turn this suicidal degeneracy into something that should be accepted as normal when it's clearly an aberration.
For me it's the whole bit where they get fucked up the arse by another bloke, or suck each other's cocks; it's literally foul and unnatural behaviour that causes bodily injury and spreads disease.
>Inb4 'but they're not hurting anyone!'
Some people are sexually aroused by eating dog shit, it doesn't mean we should pretend it's normal or acceptable.
It's been told. I'm not gonna repeat myself because you're reluctant to learn.
Well, culture and society provide quite a lot of immediate benefits. A person could definitely care about those things because it directly affects them. Having genetic skin in the game definitely provides incentive for caring though.
>The flamboyant ones are fucking annoying, the ones that don't "seem" gay are much better as they actually act like rational men.
I'm interested in figuring out "why" it's annoying. It seems as though quite a few people feel the same way, which rules out happenstance. Intolerance toward homosexuality is cross cultural, i.e. arabs, asians, europeans - in fact, it can be argued that muslims view it as much more of a threat, by advising harsher penalties.
Is tolerance proof of the advancements of western culture? Do we perceive homosexuality as less of a threat, therefore becoming more tolerant, because we have advanced past the point of it being a large threat?
I think the "accepted as normal" attempt is just so violence towards gay isn't tacitly accepted/not punished. Once you start denigrating a minority of the population you will see an uptick in violence towards them.
Find a community of gays that doesn't have a forum, tumblr, discord, or some other chat room where they talk about doing drugs, shoving things up their asses, their history of sexual abuse, their own perpetration of abuse. You won't. It is absolutely universal. Same thing among trannies. Its hard drugs and sex. There is nothing else to it.
Even among Lesbians there is an enormous presence online of disturbing sexual fantasies, and coupled with the fact that 90% of Lesbian couples experience domestic abuse in their relationships, its pretty fucking clear.
Its a mental illness top to bottom. The idea of a normal gay person is a media myth.
If it's not a sexual act it isn't 'gay behavior'. It's just acting like a colossal stereotypical frivolous attention whoring cartoon faggot that no one wants to be around.
>tfw June used to be about getting out of school, baseball games, Father’s Day, D-Day, the summer solstice, etc, is now about buttfuckin and pretending you’re not your gender
I don't need to find a community, but just a single homosexual who doesn't do this to disprove your claim that the "entire" community is this way. This is the point of my post, and I know gays who don't do these things.
Oh ok. Homosexuality is encouraged in school children because somewhere once someone was violent to a gay person.
Topkek. Feels good knowing those dirty perverts are burning in Hell.
You have no idea what people do in the privacy of their own home. They'll lie to your face all day then go home and shoot up and have a half dozen Tinder dates show up to fist them.
Stats prove the overwhelming majority of homosexuals of dysfunctional, they statistically make terrible parents, when they raise children they grow up to have drastically more mental health and addiction issues.
Faggots are mentally ill and they spread their disease when not repressed. Not a single one of you should be given an inch of leeway.
Relax, vader - it's just a conversation.
Interesting, so there is an element to group safety. Even though you, as an individual, aren't at risk (I don't suspect you'd be fucking gay men, or shoving things up your butt), you still feel they represent a societal/group threat.
It isn't because "someone" was violent, but societal discrimination. The same happens with sexism, and racism now for the very same reasons.
You guys are always ...like 'we are just like everybody else, but just gay'
But YOU AREN'T like everyone else. You guys seem to be at the forefront of every goddamn leftist crackpot idea ...even if it has zero to do with sexuality.
I'm not kidding... you have been so judiaized over the years that you are literally WORSE than jews. You want to destroy anything and everything with any sort of tradition and implement some globe-faggotron artificial culture. I honestly used to feel bad for gays. I went out of my way to be pleasant... but you are seriously like a malignant societal cancer.
You said you want marriage, so you can become a part of society... BULLSHIT. You want to destroy society and replace it with some warped faggo-marxist nightmare.
>To those who are anti-gay, what problems do you have with gay people?
On a personal level, nothing. As a lolbertarian I think it's not my place to intervene on what two consenting adults do. But at the same time, I find the "homosexual agenda" to be a problem. Sure it's fine to be gay, but to parade in the streets like a bunch of degenerates in front of children is disgusting. Collectively, most gay people lean liberal and feel the need to impose their apparent self-righteous beliefs on their fellow man. We get it, you're gay. Don't go around waving this shit around. Act like a respectful hetero couple and there's no problem. But they go on CNN and talk about the apparent discrimination that they face like they're the blacks of the 50's. They simply aren't. They constantly overplay their hand for the victim card and that's enough to make me have a distaste for them in general.
No mass acceptance of sexually deviant behavior has always been one of the clearly defined markers for a civilization in fast decline.
People don't like it because it's a dead end for humanity and nothing that should be encouraged. If you can't figure out why people think gay parades are disgusting you definitely have HIV.
How are they not a threat to society? If all men gave up shagging women and started ramming coconuts and scrap metal up their shitters instead then the entire human race would die out in a single generation.
bruh look at this dude
Do you think homosexuality is contagious?
It's mental illness trying to establish a right to exist via non-existent human "rights". These are people who get nervous and worried over their assholes not being real sexual organs so they obsess about it like women.
None of these people should be marrying or raising children. They are terrible role models.
Right, I was assuming a person would be both gay and "act gay". Do you feel it is the annoying behavior, or is it knowing that the behavior signals homosexuality?
me in the pic
Nope. Putting you dick in a butt is nothing like being a member of a race or a gender. Pretending butt fucking is some class of people with distinct needs is complete bullshit. It's just a sex fetish. This is why I accept none of this false justification for intruding into peoples lives with it.
Disliking homosexual behavior is no different than homosexuals having a distaste for straight sex. Only you're going to be a lying faggot and pretend it's 'hateful' when it goes one way but not the other.
throw thee gays off thy rooftops
gays destroy nations because they cant have kids ,have enough of you and a country will slowly die.
Ireland for example.
Many faggots got bumraped as kids so yes, in fact I'd go to say it's how they 'reproduce'. Their entire evolutionary strategy involves raping children and exposing them to pro-faggot propaganda.
I guess I was operating on the assumption that since homosexuality is a minority behavior, any fatal threat to the whole human population is quite a stretch. Do you suppose homosexuality could become a dominant behavior? Or even progress to the point where humans recognize it's detriment, but voluntarily eliminate the entire species?
If a gay person walked by you on the street today, would you become gay?
They represent a group as far as they are all malfunctioning perverts on a suicide mission, yes. Can you understand why I most people don't want their children's teachers telling them it's cool to get pozzed up?
No. But I would feel righteously disgusted by their dysgenic behaviour.
Gays are disgusting and should not be. Further, they are destructive to society.
I wouldn't, but a little kid might.
You've got a bit of a "chicken or the egg" dilemma there. What came first, the straight man who raped, or the gay man?
Yeah like straight guys never think about sex, have you been to Jow Forums ?
And if I received a blood transfusion from one I'd quite likely be infected by a disease of some sort. Btw, how do you feel about paedophile priests in the Catholic Church? Perhaps the problem wasn't paedophilia but FAGGOTRY.
This. "gay marriage" simply isn't marriage. It's just butt fucking friends playing a game where they try to simulate non-degenerates for financial gain.
What came first was procreation, something that can only occur between a man and a woman.
My brother and sister are both homosexuals. I disprove of that in itself, but I still love them. They're my family, after all.
As to why I don't like it, it's because I find the flamboyant bullshit that faggots do annoying (the voice, the "fashion", the interior decorating, the flowers etc..). It's just not masculine.
For women it's the opposite, kinda. I don't like butch women at all, and I find it annoying that regardless of faggots or lesbos they always seem to have one masculine and one feminine part. Regardless of whom it is, it looks and feels wrong to me.
I'm not gonna use the appeal to nature fallacy, but I feel like I should mention that faggot themselves should be a dead end in evolution. For some reason (((they))) are pushing to end the nuclear family and allow single moms, faggots and lesbians to not only adopt, but also get help becoming pregnant or getting a surrogacy pregnancy.
TL;DR: It's just something I dislike. I feel it in my stomach when I see faggots holding hands, kiss or whatever.. I get physically sick.
>Does it stem from non-sexual behavior (talking, walking, mannerisms), or is it solely the sexual activities
It's both.
there are no invalid reasons to not want someone
>literally a fetish
>demands civil rights for their fetish
theyre like furries.
The only problem I have with faggots is that they think they deserve special privileges because of who they fuck.
Why should someone get a longer sentence when they assault you because of who you have sex with? For example.
Who you fuck does not make you special or deserving of any greater protection under the law than anyone else.
Other than that, keep who you fuck to yourself and quit making it the very essence of everything you do and say and we will get along just fine.
It's the fact that they obnoxiously change their vocal qualities, their vocal cadence, and how the more flamboyant ones exaggerate their movements in an unnatural attempt to be feminine. Other than that, homosexuality serves zero purpose in human reproduction (admittedly there are too many humans as is though), is a crime against nature since their sexual interactions are not natural, and should not be accepted as a whole. They're humans, so I'll treat them as such and tolerate their behavior up until they believe I should place them on a pedestal due to their homosexuality and they begin spouting off about how "special" and "brave" they are.
LOL they disqualify you from donating blood if you're gay. Gay people need straight people's blood to survive and would die if they had to rely on gay blood. Being gay itself is a disease.
>Also, why do gay white men act like straight black women?
Both have higher testosterone than white women, lower than normal white men.
An interesting phenomena to look into would be what happened with the group "Los Frikis", a cuban punk community who "pozzed up", in defiance of the government.
It wasn't directly related to homosexual behavior, they would inject hiv positive blood, as a means of protesting the governments treatment of hiv positive people (they severely misunderstood the severity of the disease).
I like the gays that I don't know they're gay. They act like a normal guy, and don't talk about gay bullshit or their sex life. As the old saying goes, "be gay all you want, don't be a fucking fag about it"
>Would you leave a child alone with a homosexual?
Underrated post.
Homosexuality is wrong because it is deviant and degenerative. It is taking the sexual process and literally perverting it, applying it to another purpose and in another direction. Homosexuals do not have sex for the reasons you are supposed to, instead they do it because they are hedonists. They do it because it feels good. And someone motivated by hedonism rather than virtue will do whatever feels good and justify it later.
They belong in a bonfire just like whores and philanderers do.
I don't want to sound like a shill, but that is only a bunch of them. A good chunk (most the ones ive met) are just as you describe. They keep it to themselves unless asked and generally don't care for the movement aside from having their own bars and shit.
I made this post because I agree with every single word you've said. That is all.
Homosexuals usually fuck young boys so nah.
One word.
Jared Fagle.
Gay pedophile
>spectrum for both of those groups is entirely broad,
its really not
you're being obtuse my friend
faggots
>Malfunctioning perverts on a suicide mission
Very well put.
Very few people only have sex for procreation and this includes heterosexuals.
>Jow Forums is an ideal sample of your average male population
This has been quite interesting. Thank you all for participating.
>To those who are anti-gay, what problems do you have with gay people? Does it stem from non-sexual behavior (talking, walking, mannerisms), or is it solely the sexual activities that are seen as problematic?
"Homophobia" is an instinctive repulsion to an unhygienic and maladaptive behavior.
This is correct.
>I don't think you have the authority to speak for the whole group (I'm a fairly sane straight male), so why not give your personal opinion? Is it sexual or non-sexual behavior you find repulsive, or is it both? Any examples of a particular behavior that pisses you off?
Studies back it up, even though they spin the studies into an "everyone is secretly gay" narrative.
Basically, male brains and female brains have all the same bits, just with certain parts dialed up and others dialed down. That means that the part in a woman's brain that causes them to be sexually aroused by fit males is also in every man's brain, but it gets drowned out by a second part of the brain, one that gets dialed way the fuck up, that shouts "NO THAT'S GAY" and replaces the arousal with revulsion. Evolution didn't think of a way to actually turn that part of our brain off, so instead they drowned it out with another, stronger, signal.
But what it means is that no matter unfair it might be, being grossed out by gays is built in. Which means you can't ever teach tolerance of it, any more than you could teach people to be okay with eating shit.
How about this, all but one in the community embodies what you describe. Lets say all of that is distasteful. You would say the exception does not make the rule. If the rest are a blight on society, you're arguing semantics while the effect in the end is the same.
I'll take fags over diversity any day. Just as long as they keep their fag shit to themselves.
It's semantics, yes, but important semantics. I was just telling you why it is silly to make an argument in the manner you did.
i have no problem at all with gay people, gay people are ok. however, i despise faggots. you know those super flamboyant gays that simply HAVE TO FORCE THEIR FAGGOTRY ONTO EVERYONE AROUND THEM... yea fuck those faggots.
So when that happens in LA you're saying they're protesting the Cuban government?
>but important semantics.
its not, really.
>you did
I'm not him
all non whites should be gay
Here you go
It is because the way you stated your argument makes you incorrect.
Why do you hate commies?
>thinking about sex once in a while is the same as thinking about it 24/7.
if i can tell you have an abnormal sexual preference just by looking at you, or even within 5 minutes of talking to you, your faggotry is too offensive
exactly.
I'm not anti-gay it's just...I was born in '70 and when I was growing up, it was ok to hit a fag.
We stopped doing that because their blood became deadly like in alien(s) but I can't shake the feeling that everything worked better when they were forcefully closeted.
I know I should spit up some rhetoric that weaves into some grand narrative but the honest truth is just that I think they're profoundly creepy and should keep their faggotry to themselves behind closed doors.
I actually think that they should be allowed get married, spousal benefits are baked into most compensation in the private sector and people should be able to access that for their household as they see fit.
But mincing poofdom should not exist outside of their clubs.
“I found a friend who gave me his (infected) blood,” recalls Govea, a long-haired 42-year-old with earrings and tattoos.
That was 17 years ago. He has since seen friends die of AIDs and his wife Yohandra Cardoso, 44, lose both her legs to the disease.
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