I think human intelligence has decreased significantly

from even just 200 years ago. Something is very wrong here.

Or were humans always this dumb? I see countries importing their own fucking deaths. No one was that fucking stupid. No one.

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Females never had this much political power

>no one’s that stupid
I have bad news for you user, it’s been happening since human history began

Thank technological advances. Especially for the ones used for entertainment purposes.

Too many niggers around

200 years ago, most published works were produced by the few competent individuals alive. Today, incompetence of any degree can make itself heard effortlessly.

This. Not to mention beta males catering to their deisres of unrelenting altruism. Western Europe lives in shame by and large of their colonial past and sees the current migration crisis as their way of cleansing their “sins”, particularly Germany.

When the elites had total power, decisions were made that made sense to 130 IQ people. In a (((democracy))) decisions must make sense to 100 IQ people and females.

This explains everything.

industrial environmental pollution
the only thing keeping us afloat is retained cultural knowledge and the alphas who preserve and expand it.

yes it's very obvious, i pity any retard normalfag with this blu pilll mindset
>you dont really wish you lived in the 19th century you would have le died of the plague and been illiterate

What'd you just call those Jews, faggot

White women were never worshipped by 1488 aryan warriors until the past century.
Now, enabled by you cucks, they destroy everything

Jews

toxic air
microwaves everywhere
ultrasound
infant genital mutilation
flood of vaccinations
estrogen mimickers in plastics and foods
human dna in burgers and hot dogs
no selenium and little iodine uptake leading to overeating
low density lipid foods cause slower thinking

This. We're ratcheting down to the lowest common denominator

I think it has to do with a lack of wisdom, not a lack of intelligence. I see many intelligent fools doing as you say; inviting into their homes their own murderers.

When your ID is gay
Its time for you to leave fag

Oy vey, if those people in history didn't import their replacements, maybe they wouldn't be dead

Fluoride and race mixing

It's from lack of boat ownership, boomers had one thing right, you should probably own and operate a boat safely and within the confines of the law, as well as under the legal blood alcohol limit.

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During FDR's administration, democracy was under assault the world over, and they found a way to salvage it.
A human is capable of rational thought if and only if their emotions are kept under control, if you present them with the facts and nothing but the facts. FDR attempted to do this, both while surveying public opinion and while articulating policy to that public.

After the war, there was a lot of money going around, and big business realized that they could manipulate our emotions across all fields to snag a lot of it.

Society as it is today is literally the result of unmitigated emotional manipulation by our media. We SAW this in how Trump was lambasted and how the younger generation reacted to his election. The boomers, who'd been around the block a time or 500 by then knew the game when they saw it though, and if they learned nothing else from their time on this planet, they learned that sometimes it's best to just cut the radio and fly the fucking plane.

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We're being dumbed down by the elites.
Just smart enough to work. Not smart enough to rebel against them.
Look at a school textbook from a hundred or so years ago. Instead of multiple choice like now it was essay answers. You had to know the subject.

You couldn’t be more wrong.
Google “Flynn effect”.

We have tyrannical bureaucracies that are oppressing the people from their own survival.

That doesn't explain why almost every western country has decided to commit cultural and demographic suicide, supported by a majority of it's fuckwit population

WQE'RE ASL L GONNA DIIIiiiieeeee
seriously kids, stop using cell phones, they're cooking you

If you count brown people into the average, then certainly.

map out brain tumors (glioblastoma multiforme) and cell phone use over the last thirty years

>(((humans)))
>a real thing

FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF

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this shit started way back in 1948, we've just been living in the aftermath of that retarded decision

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Nationality_Act_1948

2 things: mass media in everyones homes, and Jews. mystery solved

Sure, but then don’t claim something asan explanation that is contradictory to the facts. Whatever the explanation is, it has very little to do with lowering intelligence.

Fpbp

Faggot

yah, that's how my family ended up in this shithole after the same crap was passed in the 70's otherwise i'd be a balkan

>ID is gay sex

behold the power of egalitarian democracy

>Or were humans always this dumb? I see countries importing their own fucking deaths. No one was that fucking stupid. No one.
The real reason this is done is that sufficient consumers are needed to prop up economic growth. Unintended side effect of birth control. What they market it as is "atoning for slavery, the Holocaust, and colonialism by living up to our Liberal values".

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there is some evidence that the flynn effect is caused by cultural transmission of abstract thinking patterns from elites to peasants through public education raising the average. its possible that people in the past were simply unwilling rather than incapable to think in abstract because it had fuck all to do with farming.

Dont excuse their cowardice. You’re probably a boomer trying to rationalize being a spineless faggot

The end game of the radically free market seems to be "ow my balls" productions that appeal to the lowest common denominator

Jews and Women

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Feminists_by_religion

Not complicated......they understood this in 1933

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There are still smart people, but not geniuses anymore.

Every now and then you hear about some genius kid that has 200+ IQ. But what do they accomplish? Nothing.

There are no people like Tesla, that want to change the world. All we have are smart people trying to make money with their brain.

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How is fb always bp???

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Gtfo fag

Was actually thinking about making a thread on a similar topic, but I guess this is close enough.

I'm interested in retardation of the language, YOUR language specifically. Reading so much English should be helping me improve my own English skills, right? Well, that would be the case if so many of you weren't borderline illiterate. I see so many people whose English is a second language and who write so much better than actual English speakers.

And don't get me started on phrases. Will someone please explain to me what a nuclear family is? Like, a family that guards nuclear facilities or something? Shouldn't it be the nucleus of family instead? Figurative speech instead of figure of speech? Try to do something instead of try and do something, couldn't care less about something instead of could care less about something and so many more... how exactly do these phrases get so screwed up is beyond my comprehension.

Holy shit. I expected a discrepancy. But not this

Its the jews

Social media. Any dumb fuck now has an opinion. Logic gave way to emotion.

white guilt and (((their))) plan to fuck over Europe and the USA.

D Y S G E N I C S

Rome was that stupid, dummy. History is just repeating itself at this point. Rome died because of immigration and now the great west will die because of immigration.

I came here to post this

We changed the natural selection pressure against stupid so it doesn't remove as many morons and jackasses from the gene pool.
This is quite intentional, and done by the Globalist who are working to dumb down the world.
Turns out, they know the 115 Super Jew IQ is bullshit; but they do want that 15 point IQ advantage over the goys.

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>Figurative speech instead of figure of speech
You use the phrase figurative speech to describe a figure of speech

Two thoughts:

1. There have always been droves of retards. It's just that until a couple of decades ago, they couldn't even write their own fucking names, so history has an immense selection bias towards literate, intellectual people and those with enough power to make other people write down things about them (semi- or pseudoliteracy, think of kings who could not write themselves but had monks do it for them)

2. Although the average person may or may not be smarter than an average person 200 years ago, there most certainly is a difference with, say, 50 years ago. In the 50s to 70s, there was a sweet spot where literacy was high and discipline was too. Even retards were forced to learn the tables and grammar or they'd get rapped across the knuckles with a ruler. After the reds took over education, things went south very quickly. Even the difference between my school age (I'm 26 now, so ~10y ago) and current school children is immense. Children are being educated to become very demanding fucktards and little more, save for a few bright minds which would prosper even in the most cess-filled cesspools on earth.

Oh and the massive influx of brown animals doesn't really help either, especially when standards are lowered across the board to camouflage their retardation.

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You should still make the thread. I’m interested in this as well and think it plays a part in retarding intelligence.

Welfare promotes the dumb to reproduce in higher numbers than the actual competent population.

amazon.com/Genetic-Entropy-Mystery-Genome-Classroom/dp/0981631614/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1527295490&sr=1-2&keywords=genetic entropy

Dude... what now?

Right, linguistics should be a topic of interest for someone investigating changes in intelligence, for sure.

Flynn effect has been thoroughly debunked. All the evidence indicates a long-term decline in western IQs.

We have always been getting dumber since we discovered that stupid women were easier to get into bed.

Figure of speech: meteoric rise (meteors don't rise, they fall)
Figurative speech: descriptor of figurative language, such as the above example.

'Nuclear family' isn't slang or anything. 'Nuclear' just means 'having something to do with nuclei (cores)'. In one case, the core of an atom, in the othee, the core of a family. I do agree with you about dumbing down of language. Sadly, it's nit just English. It's more of an exception than a rule to find someone who can speak and write (almost) flawless Dutch.

See Orwell's 1984; Newspeak. To think about complex issues, you need complex language. With simple language, you can only think in simple terms about simple, base subjects. There's an excellent greentext about Swahili or Zulu or whatever niggerspeak and how it doesn't have any words dor abstract concepts, making their native speakers basically unable to think abstractly. Although that may be a chicken/egg story

Education has lowered the standards big time because women and leftists had to become teachers and rate the exams. They only survive nowdays because they use the work of male teachers that came before them.

Thanks, twitter

It's just more visible.

Also after the introduction of the welfare state, the stupid people breed, while the smart wait for "the right time", and can never afford kids because they are productive and pay taxes.

You're not watching enough rick and morty.

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No. It's just that dumb now have more attention than ever. Even setting Twitter aside, journalism, politics, hell even music were prospects of life where being talented and intelligent was necessary. Not anymore.

brains fluctuate in size according to the internet anyway. they say they shrunk during colonial times. idk what they are doing today. interesting anyway.

out of those the only one that is objectively wrong is "could care less" but everyone knows that is wrong. its just a bad habit that some people develop like saying "lie berry" instead of library. the rest is just your misunderstanding of vocabulary and grammar. "try and do something" is clunky but its not technically grammatically incorrect. "try to do something" is better because the other phrase separates the acts of trying and doing in an unnatural way.

the reason that language skills have declined is because they are not taught properly in most public schools anymore since people started to believe that rote learning has no place in schools and the focus shifted to "critical thinking". we actually had a thread about this before and i mentioned how my grade 8 educated great grandfather had better prose than i do aside from my extra vocabulary which is mostly jargon anyway. another cause is that people just don't put the effort into writing online comments that they did when writing paper letters to each other. incidentally, i didnt go over this post to check for errors

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You can thank ((((((Iluminism))))))) for that.

there wasn't that much to teach so language was a big deal. that and a lot of stuff shits all gone now.

i heard they don't even have gym. how are we gonna get the next nerd vs jock comedy.

Oh, I see. Thanks, that explanation I can get behind.

I understand, yes, however, it still doesn't sound right to me. Nuclear weapons, nuclear family. Idk, it seems wrong, confusing. Perhaps because of vast differences between English and Serbian, my mother tongue. But it's true though, I see Serbian speakers making some basic grammar mistakes in writing and speaking, it's frustrating.

I like this discussion, you guys are helpful, thanks.

It's from Latin, it literally means the core of a nut or fruit, from 'nux', meaning 'nut', similar to the French 'noix'. Nucleus is also the word for the inside core part of a biological cell. But I understand the confusion.

Benefits help the weak stay alive long enough to procreate.

Ya thanks to John D.

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We've been getting dumber since the agricultural revolution.

Google "Richard Lynn dysgenics"

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I suspect that’s correct, it’s probably not a genetic effect. But no matter the cause, it seems to me that the existence of such an effect refutes OP’s hypothesis about intelligence declining.

Don't know about 200 years, but i has certainly decreased since i would say late 90s/early 2000s due to technological advances and the internet. All my mates and everybody i know have their face glued to a phone and have never read a book. Let me give you an example of how stupid people are up north where i live:

>*More nig nogs in welfare and living in poverty
>Northerner on Faceberg: 'Why don't we just print more money lads? fucking tories don't have common sense!!'

This is a real example and in the comments all the students from my previous school were all agreeing.

>*Minimum wage not enough to live on
>Northerner on Faceberg: 'Why don't we increase the minimum wage to 25 pounds an hour (33 dollars)? That would surely be enough for them to live on right lads? Fookin tories bruv!'

Another real example. There are people on my Facebook who wan't fast food workers earning more than skilled tradesmen.

>*Unemploymenet
>Northerner on Faceberg: 'Fucking shocking man!!! This is why we need Corbyn!! Why can't we just force businesses to employ people lads?'

Another example. Nobody has a fucking clue on 101 Economics or even common sense. They all think small business owners are fat old men smoking cigars while riding around in a Ferrari all day.

What evidence exists to debunk it?

Thats why I only read old books
Modern philosophy is pleb tier.
You cant compare plebs like Sam Harris to people like Machiaveli and Tocqueville.
Fuck liberal democracies.
Feminism is just the logical end of liberal democracies.
Its the real problem. The pleb must stay pleb.

Comfort or intelligence. Can' t have both.

If you glance across news or social media you' ll see that humans have decided on comfort. We' ll stay on this rock and argue about social justice and race issues until all resources are gone and we fight for the last drop of water.

Kudos, humanity. You let women on in the workplace and it' s been downhill since then.

False. Due to technology, nutrition, and better access to education, we are slightly smarter. The difference you perceive is our own awareness of ourselves has radically increased. We are now acutely aware of our actions and mental states, and all of the evidence of stupidity in words and behavior has led you to your conclusion.

I'm a millenial, giving credit where it is due.
I generally despise that generation, and even the boomer I'm saddled with is a woman with whom I'm stuck between resenting and pitying. The way I was raised shouldn't have happened, but there are plenty of good excuses for 'why' it happened.
It's worth noting that the worst things about that woman's life, how she raised her children and conducted her relationships, are in no small part due to society's emotional propaganda. Sexual liberation, divorce and remarriage, female independence, recreational drug use, the welfare state. When a woman, fucked by her father and beaten for it by her mother, reached out to the larger body of people, this was their idea of a good influence on her.

It's a lot different from the support/advice I got from boomers and gen xers. You judge a plant by the fruit it bears. The so-called "greatest generation" begat the boomers, who were wasteful and licentious, and the boomers raised the yuppies, fiscal, adaptable, and at least a little more capable of controlling their animal urges.

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It hasn't decreased. The gap is just wider than ever before.

Liberal democracies are to power and freedom what communism is to freedom and propriety.
Both are culling program, communism is just a bit heavier.

You're one of those retards the OP is talking about
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect#Possible_end_of_progression

>Modern philosophy is pleb tier.

If you think that only old philosophy is worth reading, or doesn't contain and equal number of cranks, you haven't been paying attention. Locke or Rousseau come to mind. Likewise, there is plenty of good or interesting philosophy being done today. Sam Harris is NOT a philosopher and should not be confused with one.

You're throwing out the baby with the bathwater, confusing things being modern temporally with things having a modern spirit.

K-12 and the elites controlling society have been systematically dumbing people down for a long time.

youtube.com/watch?v=eeEWPbTad_Q

But Richard Lynn acknowledges the Flynn effect. He just believes it is masking a genotype can decline. OP is obviously talking about a phenotypic decline, which is not supported by the data.

You don't get it.

The pleb is slightly smarter but the modern political class is a joke, as well as our intellectual elites in terms of philosophy and deep reflexion. A king should have to worry for his head every single day of his life.

>Locke or Rousseau
I meant modern in the sense of today.
My apologizes.
Also, fuck both Locke and Rousseau.
I think you gave them as examples of shitty philosophers.
I sure hope so