Do you miss the DDR, Jow Forums?

The USSR that Stalin created could have been an awesome thing if it had managed to fight inertia and introduce market processes...as for everything else it was Nationalist, Racialist and Conservative to the core.

The bandits treaties of 47 and 49 prevent this

Just as they prevented it after the first part of the world war. We even wanted to get an Anschluss as soon as it ended.

do you miss Cuba?

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>Stalinism
>Racialist & Nationalist
Choose

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DDR was the worst time for Germany ever, it was basically the turnip winter except it lasted like 50 years

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>if it had managed to fight inertia and introduce market processes
The problems started exactly when they introduced market processes.

If they had radically switched to labor vouchers, culled their traitorous managerial class, and installed a hereditary ruler then it would have survived and thrived.

You have to be a pretty massive retard to not think Stalinism is nationalistic

It could have been the German ethnostate

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communism is inherently internationalist, idiot. the whole point is to "liberate" all the workers of the world. That means niggers too

Yet most of the post-socialist countries are homogeneous

I miss the football league. Had some fun teams to watch that are now rotting in the lower leagues.

fpbp

Not to mention during Communism they were staunchly against all the degeneracy that was going on in Western countries like homosexuality, pornography, drugs, drinking, etc.

A huge reason why people wanted to get out of communism was so that they could have acess to all those "fun" degeneracies that liberal capitalism offered.

Tbh DDR was the most successful eastern block country. Why? Because they were least slavic country. Slavs are too conservative for communist ideologies that's why they never were able to get it work.

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It was at best civic nationalist, not ethnic. Every tatar, mongol cuman, gypsy, asian etc, was considered a based worker and patriot in Russia and other eastern European countries during communist rule.

If that's your idea of nationalism, then i hope Dugin's turkish dicks and human meat are good for you.

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exactly

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I was 11 when the wall fell, I don't remember it very much.

>workers
>niggers
Seems like they'd be omitted by default desu.

>communism is inherently internationalist, idiot. the whole point is to "liberate" all the workers of the world. That means niggers too

yes and no

While it is true Communism is inherently internationalist (all workers of the world unite), the Communism after Stalin took power was not SJW cultural Marxism.

Stalinism took the nation back to traditionalism and nationalism.

>kiwi
>bananas
Dear god, so degenerate.

>Ignoring the fact that the state basically took away children asap
>Child pregnancies exploded in the UdSSR because of "liberating" women similar to the cancerous feminism we have today

I'll admit, there was a good thing in the soviet union, and that was the fact that women got holiday 6 weeks before and after giving birth (8 weeks if it was hard labour)

And they were all kept on a tight leash and anyone who dared to misbehave was either sent to labor camps in Kazakhstan or shot by NKVD firing squad. Dugin's eurasianism is cuckery compared to Stalin.

Who can deny that Austria is German?

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At this point I think I would rather live in the DDR than in the modern day BRD

>communism is inherently internationalist
Internationalism does not mean multiculturalism.

And Yes, the Soviet Union actually tried to help the people around the world, which did not at all mean mass immigration (the borders of all communist states have always been shut, except essential specialists), but actually supporting them instead of neocolonial exploitation.

No wonder the best bet in both Africa and middle east for secure and wealthy living were socialist states, like Burkina Faso or Kurdistan.

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Stalinism is not really internationalist. Stalin produced the concept of "socialim in one country", because he firmly wanted to establish socialism in the USSR and later in Eastern Europe before going all international. When the Iron Curtain came to be the communists never really left that concept, even after Stalin died. So that's why they isolated themselves from the outside world

Can't deny truth.
Which is also why I can deny the holocaust.

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>Kurdistan
Kurdistan is not a state.

>Kept on a tight leash rather than kicking them out

America kept niggers on a tight leash until the 60's and look how that turned out.

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All the while, the Nazi states, despite all their racial supremacy they paraded, were still radically capitalist in nature, and exported slaves en masse to satisfy endless appetite of those capitalists.

If, by some supernatural intervention, Hitler would have won, they would become just like America, but worse, flooding themselves with slave labour.

Only in the sense that I enjoy my things that say "Made in West Germany".

kinda. niggers ruined arcades

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Yes. They were communists, but they weren't like actual leftists. They seemed to be proud of their country -at least the propaganda encouraged national pride- they were close-knit, white, and more militaristic than current-time Germany. Not only that but they attempted to preserve traditional german culture, such as classical music. While not a communist, I think the DDR today would be a much more conservative country than Germany if we compare ways of life.

>They were communists, but they weren't like actual leftists.
Lol, why do you call Marxist-Leninists "not actual leftists", and Neoliberal Blairite sellouts on corporate payrol in NATO nations "real leftists"?

They didn't, that's the problem. Through it's entire history the niggers were used as a leveler by one political faction to undermine the other. First it was used by North against South, then by progressives against conservatives, now by establishment against anti-establishment. Nothing to do with Stalin's policies.

Not this soviet puppet state, I really miss the Kaiserreich

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Because western neoliberal leftists like to claim that Marxist-Leninists and orther hard leftists are right-wing imperialists and the real fascists.

They should have adopted a Socialism with Russian Characteristics model when they had the chance.

They had a pretty nice national anthem

both of these things are shit

based

People were racemixing during Stalinism just fine.
Just face it, you never had any ethnic russian heroes after 1917 .
Praising Stalin is no different than praising (((Lenin))).

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Reagan stole DDR from russia . Repubs put the Turks in West Germany Repubs are repugnant.

>Socialism with Russian Characteristics

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I thought the whole reason the slavs got mad before WW1 was that Austria was forcing Germanization.

>(((Mayak discussion club)))
People were racemixing with or without Stalin. And I'm not praising him, he was no hero. He sent more russians to Gulag than any other communist ever did.

Best socialist state in humanity..... only superior germans are smart enough to make such a shitty system working

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>Reagan stole DDR from Russia
it was Gorbachev and stupid socialistic system.

Wonder how Hitler would react if you went back to the 30's and showed him this video
youtube.com/watch?v=P1CyPjQQTAM

I mean that they should have adopted the post 79 China model

Hitler was right and his bantz were funny

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kek

Any chance for a russian fascist movement that's pro slavic? I know there was one in the 30's before the commies razed it.
Assuming russian normies are even racially conscious and even know what fascism is. The only 2 other options are Putin's left wing civic capitalism or back to communism.

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leaders of the party was too stupid for any kind of reformation.

I was comparing DDR-style leftists to modern-day leftists. Marxist-leninists didn't want to replace whites with shitskins, they had a strong sense of communities (end of private ownership, closed-off countries).

Is East Germany whiter today because of that?
Were they the good guys all along?

do you think gorbi could have done it though had he not been cucked by yeltsin?
i think putin was right though when he said that the fall of the USSR was the greatest political disaster of the 20th century. but it was probably the greatest political disaster for russia ever.

This is false. It's just that the majority were conservative (same like in America today), and whole administration was decentralized and bloated. Still, there were influential people with reasonable plans, who could, in some conditions, have come to power.

Depends, but possible. In the 90s all sorts of nationalist, orthodox-monarchist and skinhead movements were very popular. Putin's great success was to undermine them all by shilling for civcuck nationalism under the banner of soviet nostalgia and "great patriotic war". The problem is, his civcuck rethoric is complete bullshit and everyone knows it. Churkas and muslims are scum and most russians knows it even if they don't want to admit it. So it really depends. As for now all nationalist movements are either cucked under Kremlin or stay low and wait fpr the right moment. So it all depends on whenever the nationalsits will be aible to seize the opportunity in the shitshow that will follow after Putin quitting.

Gorbi was nothing like Deng Xiaoping, and Breznev's Soviet Union was nothing like Mao's China. He had other plans entirely, and they could only work as well as they did.

The DDR was a nasty ZOG which is why it has a freemason logo on its flag.

Andropov, Romanov, Gromyko, Glushkov were all highly capable and intellectual statesmen, for example.

DDR got some socialist friend guestworkers but they were not allowed to have sex with germans not allowed to get pregnant and they had to stay in a special area only for guestworkers....
In many ways they were super based

lol communism completely failed in africa, and burkina faso was about as stable as angola.

you russians never cared about stopping imperialism, that was all rhetoric and you feel for that bullshit like the low IQ russian you are. you just wanted a repeat of castro but in africa so you could have more allies. and every single time you tried you failed and they left your shitty system

The DDR with its NVA was more german/prussian than Germany today.
Kind of sad that it was even less liberal than todays Germany...

>lol communism completely failed in africa, and burkina faso was about as stable as angola.
Only because his government was brutally decimated by the French, who could not allow such a thing as stable and developing sovereign African state.

They both are mindless ex-commie fags. They could not conduct a successful economic reform in the 90's because their heads were filled with communist nonsense.
Well, there is two greatest political disasters in 20th century: Bolsheviks in Russia and fall of the USSR.
They were already old by that time. Semi-dead Brezhnev was in power for almost 10 years, with these people

>Well, there is two greatest political disasters in 20th century: Bolsheviks in Russia
Without the Bolsheviks, Russian history would repeat that of Chinese revolution: i.e. completely collapsing in several militarist satrapies and backwater states.

oh yes the brutal french and their railroads and medicine. i love how you neo-commies pretend to be just like one of the right wing nazis am i right nazbol gang guise xDDD then when someone mentions africa you go on about muhh ebil colonialism just like the SJWs you say you're totally not like.

>Well, there is two greatest political disasters in 20th century: Bolsheviks in Russia and fall of the USSR.
great point, agreed

>oh yes the brutal french and their railroads and medicine.
The so called "subsidies" have nothing to do with helping the locals. Which is why captain Sankara refused them, and his state only became much better off due to it.

I pretend nothing, and state my point of view as it is.

>when someone mentions africa you go on about muhh ebil colonialism just like the SJWs you say you're totally not like.
Well, fucking yes, you mong. Communist position on 3rd world nations and globalisation is nothing like the SJWs who simply serve the corporate bidding, whose subsidies allow them to exist in the first place.

>not understanding that colonialism is just another form of jewish neoliberal globalism

How did they make sure they wouldn’t get pregnant? Birth control and abortions I’m assuming.

last German state
Best German state

This. Russia was always imperialistic state before 1917 (and i don't feel bad about that). The Communists simply replaced the concepts, seeking to expose themselves as Angles in the flesh. But that was totally stupid kind of imperialism.
I don't think so, because Russia has so many great and smart right-wing people.

Yes sure it's not like they were like an african state or something east germany had of course condoms and anti baby pills and such things and if a non german got pregnant/or race mixing it ended with execution and decades later only forced abortion

the french military is at the beck and call of large (oil) corporations to protect their interests
they dont give a shit about the locals
I'm pretty sure a large oil company called total was even caught collaborating with a dictator in the region

>I don't think so, because Russia has so many great and smart right-wing people.
Who served the Bolsheviks, whereas stupid and narrow-minded people opposed them, which is why they (being great and genius themselves) have won across the whole Russia and repelled the entire world that tried to topple them.

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Same Artist

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Damn, East Germany sound alright.

I do not understand how you can justify people whose activities contributed to the destruction of Russian culture and way of life. The Communists contributed to the formation of the Ukrainian and Byelorussian peoples, which were once part of the Russian superethnos.
Btw Intervention in the Civil War is a natural process.

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>whose activities contributed to the destruction of Russian culture and way of life.
What culture? What way of life? Surely the Russian culture was never as influential as in the Soviet Times, and it was high culture for the masses, too.
>The Communists contributed to the formation of the Ukrainian and Byelorussian peoples, which were once part of the Russian superethnos.
The Communists have immediately reunited Ukraine and Belarus within the Russian state, while the Imperial system collapsed. The differences have formed long ago, and had little to do with communists.

For the people of the Russian Empire was characterized by a measured way of life, faith in God, hierarchical arrangements, craving for freedom (for example, the Cossacks), a sense of private property (middle and rich peasants and landlords). All this existed for several hundred years.
The Bolsheviks changed everything.
>The Communists have immediately reunited Ukraine and Belarus within the Russian state.
Nope. As part of the federation in soviet state.

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