Healthcare is not a right. Education is not a right. Abortion is not a right. A living wage is not a right. Welfare is not a right.
Being able to defend yourself is a right though.
This logic comes from the stupidest, disenchanted and violence based shithole that is America. How could anyone think this is right? They are not thinking clearly.
Rights do not have monetary value. They are granted to you by God.
Connor Walker
All the things you mentioned first require that someone else giving you something. The right to self defense does not require government or outside intervention and is apart of our innate human condition.
Damn, now I know why he's so skinny. She sucks him bone dry!
Carson Ortiz
Everything you listed, EXCEPT self defense is an imposition on others, FORCING productive people to support vermin is not a right. Self defense IS a right. EVERY living creature has the right to defend itself. NO living creature has the right to force others to support it. See, you low IQ piece of shit?
>Being literally this stupid. The leaf is the smartest poster in this thread.
Hudson Russell
Pic related is a cum catcher
Thomas Thomas
oh so god says we can have guns but he doesn't care about the rest? ok bucko!
>taxation is theft meme
Owen Wood
Dude. EVERYTHING YOU LISTED IS A GIBS ME DAT FROM OTHERS.
One is SELF-FUCKING DEFENSE, NO REQUIREMENT FROM OTHERS.
A BASIC TENET OF AMERICAN FREEDOM.
Joseph Ortiz
>Arguing with retards Sage this faggot
Landon Thompson
That's so stupid baka
Logan Wright
Bucko which is a short for Buckaroo, originated by westward settlers who had contact with mexicans. Mexicans would use the word vaquero (cowboy) to refer to themselves and other rugged independent men of the west. English speaking settlers adopted the word and Vaquero became Buckaroo. By using to word bucko, you tacitly concede that men are and need to be rugged individualist capable of sel defense.
Thomas Scott
You best be trolling or you just be a retard
Nicholas Sanchez
>Healthcare is not a right. Someone else deal with my problem >Education is not a right. Someone else deal with my problem >Abortion is not a right. Someone else deal with my problem >A living wage is not a right. Someone else deal with my problem >Welfare is not a right. Someone else deal with my problem >Being able to defend yourself is a right though. I will deal with my own problem.
Chase Mitchell
holy shit all the people calling institotional rights based on the government to helpe people and not get exploited by companies "gib me free things" thats not how it works
Jayden Davis
>Ebrything is a right >I don't haz to work fo nuthin'
This logic comes from niggers.
Jordan Martin
Apparently needing other people to live means you're against american "freedom" but when private industries exploit there workers that's a-okay
Easton Brown
The dirty secret about freedom is you're on your own.
Christian Allen
lol guns don't entail self defense, that's just the logic you wish to superimpose on it, brainlet
so living is 'coercing' and killing is a right? you right wingers are truly demons
Easton Thomas
What a fucking idiot! You just said the key word - "YOURSELF".
If you can give yourself healthcare, education, abortion, living wage, welfare, then go ahead. All those things cost OTHER PEOPLE money.
I can defend myself without asking anyone else for a fucking penny! Coon imbecile!
If you want a progression of society in a positive direction. It should be mandatory that people go into these positions and have opportunity.
A society is only as strong as its basis.
Joseph Green
Killing you is about to become a right if you retards go too far.
Brayden Smith
Rights are negative and restrict the government from getting involved. They are not magical benefits granted to people. So the right to defend yourself simply means the government cannot remove means with which a person might defend themselves.
You have a right to seek your own healthcare without the government stopping you, but you are not owed a giant government program to redistribute people's work and resources to keep you healthy without paying for it.
Hunter Ortiz
You have a right to live, but by your own hand, not others.
>lol guns don't entail self defense This bait is so bad it hurts.
Chase Hill
>guns don't entail self defense Self defense entails having the best tools available to defend yourself and your family. If you are forced to give up these tools, then you can no longer defend yourself as well.
Juan Fisher
News flash you're never alone in this day of age. And besides that does not justify private property for how it's stealing the workers labour power for the gain of some kikes
Charles Ortiz
Communists will be shot and not survive America beyond 2050.
Isaac Sullivan
Yep.
Camden Baker
>Liberal communist doesn't understand what rights are: the thread
William Miller
>Make something with my own hands >Not allowed to own it, sell it, etc >Implying whoever is in charge of the government won't have lots of possessions they won't share Whatever utopian dream you believe in is fantasy and will only end in bloodshed.
Thomas Perez
You have a higher chance of being killed by a white than a Muslim in USA
Jacob Johnson
Now let's control for population size.
Jack Young
ITT shitty countries attempt to subvert the US Constitution.
Mason Morales
"rights" are just things that people made up. The only "right" you have is free will that was given to you at birth and is literally impossible to take away no matter how much you threaten or coerce, that free will is still there, even if the free will is to obey to avoid punishment
Brainwashing may be a way to take it away though
Nathaniel Jackson
Per capita. American Muslims arent as shitty as the whites.
Jonathan Young
The right to bear arms is not the right to be given a gun by the government. The right of access to food doesn't mean the government has to give you food.
Carter Cooper
I'm not an american though And I'm not that much of a communists more of a socialist And by the way I agree with you on the right to bear arms so chill
Luis Ortiz
I wouldn't expect a memeflaggot Jew Nigger to understand the difference between a right and a privilege. Lefty scum thinks killing the unborn is a right but once that baby is in the world it has no right to defend it self what a NIGGER!
Robert Adams
Rights are constructs.
Juan Foster
Socialism is when the government does stuff and the more stuff it does the more socialist it is -cuck barks
Daniel Campbell
Healthcare, education, abortion, living wage and welfare as "rights" all require forcing others to pay for your shit.
Self-defence is nothing but a reaction against having someone else's will forced upon you.
Angel Williams
the above 5 are things you receive by the good graces of other people in your community. self-defense is something that only you are responsible for. if you don't wish to defend yourself, that will only make our job easier on the day of the rope.
Because you don't have a right to make someone else give you something (i.e. healthcare, education, money (welfare or wages)). Because you don't have a right to take from others (i.e. life (as in, abortion)).
You do have a right to protect yourself and your belongings. You do have a right to keep what you've made for yourself (again, a right to your own belongings).
Fuck you OP. Death to tyrants. Death to parasites. Death to communism and communists. Death to socialism and socialists. Death to progressivism and progressives.
Ryan Anderson
Right are endowed by our creator....meaning when the gov/commie scum try to take them away you have a right to fight back.
Connor Ward
OP didn't think this through
Grayson Jackson
destroyed in 3 words.
Brandon Ross
Jesus can't come soon enough.
Xavier Lewis
Because all of those things involved someone doing a service for others. Since you can't be denied a right by you're govt then those providers must provide you a service under threat of legal reprecussions. I guess you like enslaving those people then.
Ryder Diaz
by your twisted logic, americans have a birthright to guns because of vague illusion of 'safety' but not for safety in other departments?
the only way you justify this is through ancap logic, and it's honestly demonic.
Cameron Bell
>Healthcare is not a right. >Education is not a right. >Abortion is not a right. >A living wage is not a right. >Welfare is not a right. >Being able to defend yourself is a right though. I agree. We should kill the rich and steal their stuff because we are the moral compass of the world. If you don't think that robbing someone to pay someone else's bills is a right then you're a Nazi!
David Cruz
Trump voter here. We should all work for $2/hour so the billionaires can even make more money. Yes I'm a retarded cuck good onions.
They have the right to own, purchase, and use the guns. Yes. They are not gibbed the guns.
Jayden Long
Taxation based on charity or philanthropy is an endorsement of morality. The first amendment is supposed to allow citizens freedom in their moral and ethical lives. If we are taxed based on morality, values, ethics, etc, we are being forced to endorse someone else's subjective moral beliefs (usually a filthy kike politician, academic, lawyer or judge). Jesus did not tell secular governments to endorse his teachings through law, he told Christians to get off their asses and do it. Jews have managed to warp this altruistic message into an egalitarian state so that they can skim shekels off the top while the dumb goys work to pay for it all.
The right to preserve your own life is a NATURAL right you entitled nigger. You don't have a right to take other people's shit. That is a "right" given to you by kikes, and when we get rid of them... you better learn how to farm boy. >mfw we stop feeding niggers >mfw they all starve to death
Using your logic having police and firefighters is slavery to you dumb mutt.
Easton Scott
>Healthcare is not a right. >Education is not a right. >Abortion is not a right. >A living wage is not a right. >Welfare is not a right. >Being able to defend yourself is a right though. It’s perfectly reasonable for anyone who don’t want to live based on others behalf.
Elijah King
Rights are legal, social, or ethical principles of freedom or entitlement; that is, rights are the fundamental normative rules about what is allowed of people or owed to people, according to some legal system, social convention, or ethical theory. So THEREFORE, rights are decided by the majority in some cases and are guided by ethics. If ethics change and society begins to say healthcare is a right. BAM it’s a right.
Caleb Cox
check'd >wall of text >not leftist meme >found the conservative that can't meme
Carter Morgan
And I don't expect a nigger to understand this. Jews and niggers are basically the same animals--they both are dependent on the west for survival--and our tolerance for them is over
Kayden Myers
From where do you think those rich assholes have all that money? From the labour of the workers you idiot so basically if we "steal" from the rich we are pretty much just taking back what is rightfully ours to begin with
Justin Ross
>Per capita. American Muslims arent as shitty as the whites. by percentage of population Muslims kill 380% more than whites die in a fire Muhammad
In a perfect world, that would be true in every country.
Owen Morgan
here ya go bud
Isaiah Morgan
Come take it.
Literally the only needed response to anti-gunners
Andrew Anderson
No morality is a custom or tradition. You either support the social compact, or you rebel against it and become a parasitic kike. How did we go from such a simple social compact, to the shit we have today? God gave the Jews laws, and they wrote the Talmud to cheat those laws. Rights do not change because basic fundamental human nature does not change. I should be free to live my life without ever encountering a nigger or other subhuman or kike. That was the whole point of private property: freedom of association. Jews ruined this.
Aaron Torres
>Healthcare >Education >Abortion >A living wage >Welfare all of those oblige someone else to your benefit. In order to facilitate any of these someone else's liberty must be curbed, unless they offer voluntarily.
Right to self defense obliges no one. You either exercise it or you don't, and it only matters when your liberty has been infringed on. It is when protects any providers of the above from chuckle fucks like you who believe you are entitled to their labor, or life, with the exception of the unborn child...
Interestingly, it is legal to murder unborn children, but healthcare, education, wages, and even welfare to a degree, are all still yielded voluntarily.
Strange...
Anthony Myers
How about defend myself against cancer. Why is a gun the only right of defense for my life?
Hunter Gonzalez
>Doesn't believe in natural rights Dude needs to be shot.
Jaxon Hughes
you're barbaric this isn't even an argument, you are just mentioning an argument that has no relevance dude read the thread. Christians are dead from the neck up. God gave you a right to guns but not a right to live? OK bud.
Parker Adams
>we have failed to secure resources and stability for ourselves so we need to force other people who want nothing to do with us to give us their shit thanks for explaining why democracy needs to go
Noah White
You're taxing the rich based on charity. This means that the rich, functionally, are forced to feed and clothe more needy than anyone else, yet you hate rich for not wanting to be forced to be more charitable. See the problem with your slave morality? It's pretty fucking irrational.
Angel Morris
Unfortunately, that shit doesn't just fall from the sky. Someone has to pay for it wither it be taxes (bullshit) or by yourself.
This is why people see leftists as children. They think that they should just be given free shit, like a child's relation to their parents. You don't belong in this world
Isaiah Perry
Rights are a fantasy of people who seek privilege
You want something? Make it happen one way or another, through braun or brain.
Take it, make it, do it yourself or have it done for you.
Break out of the satanic masonic conditioning that has brought the civilized world to a knee
Parker Phillips
See that's not how America's bill of rights works nor is supposed to work you goddamn commie.
Matthew Morgan
All of those things, except defending yourself, require enforcing another person into your service.
Jack Smith
>This is why people see leftists as children. They think that they should just be given free shit, like a child's relation to their parents. You don't belong in this world CIVILISATION MAKES YOU A CHILD, YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST FOLKS
Asher Martin
Just because you don't understand my argument, doesn't make it not an argument, it just makes you retarded.
>according to some legal system, social convention, or ethical theory These are customs and traditions. Each nation, each ethnic group, each race has their own customs and traditions, and therefore each social compact is different. You have a Marxist god-complex, and just assume that your way is the one and only way, but why should a hindu have to pay for SNAP so some niggers can go by cheeseburgers made of their gods?
You have the highest chance to be killed by a nigger.
Ayden Green
Did you even read any of what is written you're literary getting cucked by rich kikes and all you think of how "immoral" it is to have the fruits of your labour
Logan Ortiz
i know his
Leo Hall
Healthcare, education, welfare, etc... are not the same as the right to defend yourself.
To say the you are entitled to the first items is saying that someone else has an obligation to give them to you. They imply servitude by someone else.
Speech, self-defense, free-association, etc... are different. To say you have a right to those means that nobody can prevent you from doing those things. They are rights in the true sense.
Justin Diaz
If a mom comes in to the ER with a seizing baby but no means to pay for immediate medication that will save her life- you think that baby should die? That’s what you’re saying. That healthcare isn’t a right. What a monstrous attitude.
Zachary Murphy
>How could anyone think this is right? They are not thinking clearly. those crazy old faggots and their 2nd amendment
Isaac Campbell
Because all of these implies that you give the power to the state to take away from me to give to you And you're a pleb, and I believe plebs must stay pleb. If I buy a gun and shoot you it will cost you nothing, get it^
Angel Kelly
Healthcare is for fat asses. Education is a meme. Abortion is for whites. Living wage is a meme Welfare is a meme
Jaxson Adams
>lol guns don't entail self defense, guns everywhere makes criminals afraid to attack
logic 101
Kevin Parker
Come take it
Jason Wright
i know this is bait by the memeflag. by the way, if you wanna bait more people just use your normal flag. i don't understand what faggots like you can't grasp about that. anyway
all the things you listed require the government forcing someone else to work for you. the government forces a doctor to treat you. the government forces a teacher to teach you. the government forces employers to pay whatever they say. the government forces people to fund abortion. the government forces me to pay for tyrones 5th child's milk.
the right to defend myself? that requires no coercion of anybody's free will except my own. you just got btfo hard memeflaggot
Nicholas Cruz
>So the right to defend yourself simply means the government cannot remove means with which a person might defend themselves. this is why everyone should say they believe in god even if they don't
god given rights cannot be removed
man given rights can be
Carson Cox
>dude read the thread. You made no cogent counter-points to prior arguments to the same effect.
The distinction is clear. Unless you can note how positive and negative rights are somehow analogous, you're comparing apples with oranges in a vain attempt to justify yourself to someone else's oranges.