Massive Red Pill: No sex before marriage, no hookup culture, no porn and semen retention

A man should be experienced in pleasing women.

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Haha how do you intend to stop me from fucking lots of girls? They want it, I want it. Sucks to be you.

>They want it, I want it.

What a weak minded animal who can't control his urges just like a nigger.

Only thinking about "muh dick, muh pussy" like a beast while ignoring the well being of society. Such male whores must be punished. You are destabilizing the whole society and you will pay for it.

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You make me sad to be swiss

The feeling is mutual.

what's so wrong with people enjoying their life?

>how does the collective mental and physical wellbeing of society matter or affect you??
i dunno swissbro I just don't know, maybe the hedonists who've never achieved anything or amounted to anything in the history of civilization were on to something

Because He's an incel and other people having sex makes him mad.

(((you))) imbecilic animal
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>what's so wrong with people enjoying their life?

Living your life in a hedonist way, seeking hapiness through pleasure, won't make you "enjoying your life", but enslaved not only to ourself but also to those who promote the Bread&Circus&Sex to keep us pacified and dumbed down.

True hapiness comes with discipline, long term objective, despise of lust and other dopamine whore activities. Thinking that you enjoy life by fucking around, be that men and women, is the biggest lie that keep us enslaved in the (((globalist))) matrix. It makes us obsessed to sex in a level that even animals are not and it undeniably derives us into the sexual instead of the political. It is one of their (((tricks))), sexual liberation is political control. This "liberation", that promote levels of decadence unbearable are a weapon of enslavement ironically.

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I dunno usually people's goal is to be happy not to be important in the history of civilization but maybe that's just me

CHIMERA

I completely agree that being slaves to passion and pleasure doesn't bring happiness in the long term
But i also think there is a huge difference between being a slave to passion with no discipline and no self control and having sex a few times before marriage

Read Aristote seriously, if you think that being happy is fulfilling your pulsations toward pleasures, than you have been conditioned to be enslaved by pleasure. Because you'll be enslaved by your passions and by those who control your pulsions. Sexual Liberation of May 68 was about politcal control. Same after the French Revolution.

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>Punish menwhores
It's a nonstarter. High status men can't be punished by lower status men, and higher status men will be the menwhores.

>diamond
gj falling for kike marketing and a fake tradition. the debeers marketers completely made-up the diamond engagement ring shit in the 1920s and people bought it. now it's another fake jewish tradition for the goys

I did read Aristote from what i can remember according to him happiness came from our intellect which is according to him the part in us that is most similar to god
And from having virtue like discipline and honor
I don't really think with those phrases he meant that there should be no sex before marriage
(especially considering in ancient greece not marrying till you are thirty wasn't uncommon)

The Ancient knew how harmful sex before marriage was for people and society and it didn't need science for that.

But now, we see that the more that a person has sex, the less his or her brain will be cabapble to pair bonding.Everytime he or she fucks someone else, he or she will be less and less capable of being compassionate and deeply attracted to their follow part.

Just see statistics about divorce rates and n-count (how many sex parterns before marriage)...Those women who had no prior sex partern had something like 10% divorce rate and those with more than 10 had like more than 50% divorce rate.

Just thimk the following: After you nut in the pussy of a girl, will you by happy? Will you fill fullfilled ? Will you have gained something that you will keep and make your life valuable for long term? No, just like when you fap and masturbate, after you nut, you become lethargic and clearly not happy.

It is, but this is just for the meme.

So the thing about higher divorce rate isn't necessarily caused by less compassion
A far simpler answer is that if someone is use to having a lot of partners he might not be as comfortable with monogamy as someone who isn't
And no coming in a pussy doesn't make u happy you are right. But being lonely till you are 30 might make u unhappy

I'm no expert but I'm pretty much sure that he wouldn't have approuved sex before marriage but I might be wrong.

But as for Socrate/Platon (The Republic), you can see that he has a concept of "justice" that applies both in the individual and the society. For example, if you fuck around like a whore, you are not just being unjust to yourself (because you are hurting yourself and being enslaved by our passions) but you also are being unjust to the whole society, because you are destabilizing the society and hurting the whole society by your acts, so hurting everyone of your fellow neighbours in the process. In that sene, especially concerning casual sex, it is extremely relevant. It has never made anyone happy, it hurts the individual who unconsciously is enslaved by sex and also hurt society by this libertarian and "liberated" behavior. Patriarchal and monogame marriage is the foundation of our societies and going against that is extremely unjust.

That's my opinion. Just see history, everytime libertarianism was encouraged, countries and empires fell.

If you fap you're no better than a slut or whore.

>So the thing about higher divorce rate isn't necessarily caused by less compassion
>A far simpler answer is that if someone is use to having a lot of partners he might not be as comfortable with monogamy as someone who isn't

Thus proving my point.

Moreover, coming in a pusy doesn't make you happy indeed. It kills our spirituality in favor of our bestiality and decadence...If men don't have any spirituality of some sorts, then they are lower than animals. Our rational mind alone don't differentiate us a lot from animals, because without spirrituality, we begin to act like animals for a lot of people.

Anyway, another problem you say is that you can be lonely and alone in your 30 which is true nowadays. Back in the days, you used to marry in your 18-22 years, women didn't go to long studies and then long job career and it was possible with the salary of one young man adult to support a family with several kids. So you used to be virgin but you did marry very young.

A lot of things have to change in this society unfortunately, everything is made to derive us from what made us great and superior, our patriarchal and monogame marriage structure.

Great to talk to a follow swiss by the way.

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Maybe you are right, maybe complete freedom is toxic to ourselves because we are too near sighted to chase what actually makes us happy.
But at least if i'm not happy it's my own fault
I don't think i would like a society that would restrict my freedom ( for example sex before marriage ) even if in truth it might be in my own self-interest

an intact or damaged hymen is no indication of chastity.

It definitely proves your point in saying that people that fuck around are gonna be worse partners in a marriage
But maybe those people shouldn't really marry at all if they are happier with a different lifestyle
And about the use to marry when you were 18-22 that's not entirely true
Women use to marry around that age or even sooner you are right
But for men it was more like 20-30
I agree the patriarchal society is probably the most solid one in the sense that in such a society were there is a clear path you are supposed to take you are way less likely of becoming a fuck up
But you must admit a society that pretty much dictates your life (women must stay at home, pretty much everyone has to marry, man must provide) limits your freedom a lot
And some people might not be happy with that

>I don't think i would like a society that would restrict my freedom ( for example sex before marriage ) even if in truth it might be in my own self-interest

That's what is indeed however. Just like discipline, you restrict yourself to not do certain things and to push yyourself to do certain thinks that appear to be annoying but in the end, it is for your well being in the end.

If you manage to do that, then you truly are "stronger than yourself", where the mind keep the reptilian (our lower part) in check. Especially in today's world where everything is in massive excess, discpline is much more needed than ever and this principle can be applied in a society, where rules and moral codes are applied for the best. Because if the state or church, if the people don't do it, someone else will do it, will give his codes about moral values and societal conditioning, and not for the best...Corporatists,globalists, markets, wild capitalism, kikes, Talmudvision, degenerate influencors and propagandists,...Those will influence our whole society without any disciplined and strict society.

I agree completely on the importance of discipline
Discipline in our worlds is really the most important trait
Whether or not you get a degree, or you become an addict, or you go in debt just because you saw a publicity of something and you bought it, that all depends on discipline
I don't really agree though that sex before marriage is really a question about discipline
For some reason or another marriage might not really work for someone (for example someone who's job requires him to travel constantly)
And as long as you are not a slave to sex, but sex is simply a tool to chase away the loneliness i don't see anything wrong with it

In my opinion, freedom, in it's current meaning, is extremely overrated. Why? Because ironically, this form of freedom guides you to enslavement and unhappiness. We like to think about individual freedoms and right, about the "Me and I" but we never talk about our DUTIES over our fellow countrymen, of our fellow communities. We are being so self-absorbed in our little selves that we don't take part in the development of our societies and of our fellow men. The think is that we live in society, we are social and political animals and what people do in their lives affect the whole society. In the name of "freedom", we let people destroying a 2000 year old legacy...Was it worth it ? So much people are hedonist/nihilist now a days and tell themselves "what's the meaning of life ? My life is so worthless, ...What's the point of living? ", well of course that would happen if you give "freedom", that's what happen when you reject God or any form of spirituality and also reject you duties toward your city and country. If you don't have something "higher" than your own self, than you'll be miserable.

Thus, for me, true freedom only exist by having strict moral codes, societal norms and fair laws that all encourage the stability and growth of our societies, against all "liberating" liberal policies. Morals are essential. You can see them as "limiting your freedom" or you can see them as "keeping you safe from yourself and from traps and allowing you to be the better version of yourself".

This just sounds like Islam, so no thanks I'll pass.

>no sex before marriage
lol what a faggot.
the only people that would possibly follow this stupid shit are incels like yourself.

man's natural order is to have sex with women, marriage is an invention by cuckolds.
kill yourself, you absolute loser.

What a dumb insect you are, only caring about "muh colony" while ignoring your personal well being. Such insects must be eradicated. You are a commie authoritarian jew and you will pay for it.

Now buzz off worker bee.

>And as long as you are not a slave to sex, but sex is simply a tool to chase away the loneliness i don't see anything wrong with it

The problem is that marriage is the bedrock of our societies and that by having casual sex and marring while not virigin, it hurts the principal foundation of society. If this weakens, everything else weakens. That's why it's extremely bad in my opinion. Sex for sex is degenerate, it accomplished nothing, it destroys the soul of people involved in it and it corrupts them (even bio-chemically or even in terms of STDs if you wish). It is also a very strong time waster, time is precious and wasting it by chasing pussy, obsession about sex and fucking is very time consuming and for what ? A dopamine high that would last 30 minutes and that will disappear as soon as the orgasm come. How do you feel afterwards? Was it worth it ? What did you gain?

Aristotle was wrong about literally everything. He couldn't even be bothered to count people's teeth before making retarded statements. If you want to take the words of a bunch of literal pedophiles, go for it.

I'm sounding like what all of our ancestors did and what ha lead us to the hegemony of the occidental societal, not for long though.

>A man should be experienced in pleasing his woman.
ftfy

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>No Sex Before Marriage (both sexes)
no thanks.

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Incels are frustrated loosers that can't get pussy and become extremely butthurt because of it, just like feminists. But they obsessed about sex and want to fuck women.

I encourage the extreme opposite of that. Being able to fuck pussy but not doing it because life won't gain a meaning by fucking pussies.

Source?

Increased divorce rates are a meme. Happy marriages don't end in divorce. The only reason divorce rates increased when it was first fully legalized, was because women (and men) stuck in abusive relationships finally had some recourse.

Of course, yout don'tcare Mohamad. As long as you get to beat your little girls.

I don't know, ask in a movie board or forum.

Good comic here, kind of related.

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wait this sounds legit

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James bond.

> If men don't have any spirituality of some sorts, then they are lower than animals.
> spirituality
Thank you, i will keep my rational mind, and let our civilized muslim enrichers keep the "spirituality" instead.

Does commitment mean anything if it's not free?
If i marry a girl and she marries me because it's our duty, and not because we choose to, would that really make us happy?
And i agree that Morals are essential, but one must do what's right because of his own conscience not because society tells him what's right
And about the god part i agree because of human nature we tend to be miserable if we don't believe in something higher than ourselves
But even in this case belief is worth nothing if it's forced
We have to choose to believe on our own thanks to our freedom

In all the writing and history of our society in North America there was tons of non marital sex. Particularly rewarding to successful and courageous men like our founding fathers. The only way to enforce this no sex shit would be by force anyway which would never fly. I think the current system is better at ensuring the better genes pass on, ergo is better for our system. I wouldn't be against a stronger sense of culturally enforced monogamy but forced abstinence for a population with birth control is beyond stupid.

Wow an image so small only an insect could read it

So you are an insect. Called it!

Abandon thread. The communist bees have infiltrated our board.

and the increase in beatings correlates with the proliferation of alcohol and was a major factor in the growth of the womens movement
>temperance movement when

>Wow an image so small only an insect could read it
lmao dumbshit phoneposter

Sex Doesn't break the hymen, nor does the hymen always break from sex. its not a fucking "good by date" seal, its a coating around the inside. Take a fucking biology class, or look up a fucking diagram.

Well, see now how this "liberated" USA is doing now and tell me that it's, that the degeneracy of this country does not bother you.

You need to understand, that this thread (and this board in general) is mostly filled with weak willed pussies who desperately want the government to control their lives and provide them with a girlfriend.

99.9% op is a virgin incel who'll die alone.

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Damn, you really are butthurt.

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fuck you jew

>abstain from sex as a teen because the females in my peer group from middle school to high school were already sluts or literally disfigured
>get to college and abstain from sex and relationships to focus on studies
>nearly done with college and still have v-card
>find Jow Forums and get redpilled on pair bonding in mammals
>decide because i stayed pure, i will only marry a woman who stayed pure too
>know of multiple shy, demure chicks who love children but had a previous long term boyfriend before college and they've literally given me their number but i can't bring myself to date them because of n-count
>the other 99% of chicks are constantly binge drinking and sleeping around and have zero maternal instinct

i will always resent that i was never told finding a wife after high school is impossible unless youre willing to settle with a woman without her virginity

Then I would say the system is working because the quality of his ideas suggest his IQ isn't worth passing on.

I don't think random sex makes people happy, but it does help not feeling lonely for a while
I agree that to be happy one must make more meaningful connections (for example finding someone you love and marrying them)
But i don't think marriage is worth jack shit if it's "forced"
And until you find love it's gonna take time and maybe it will never even happen
So i don't really it's worth it to wait
But maybe i'm wrong, i have to admit i'm only 20 and never married so i don't know if maybe i'm missing out on the key to happiness

GANG GANG

The ultimate kike meme

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Banning alcohol was a conspiracy by the rockefellers. They didn't do it for "muh morals" he did it because he knew that the demand would be met with tax free organized crime, which his family profited immensely from.

No you should be hanged for causing destruction to civilization

>> No Sex Before Marriage (both sexes)
>> No Hookup culture
>> No Pornography
>> No Soft/Erotic porn (meaning no advertissement using sex to sell and women have to dress some clothe just like back in the days)
>> No masturbation (and semen retention thus)
>> Punish menwhores who seduce and fuck other men's women or unmarried women (women aren't strong the refute sex from some charistamtic, that's a lie so men must be punished)
>> Punish women who actively seduce men

keep posting this great thread, first step in fixing the thot problem is fixing whoremongering niggers within our ranks

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Chastity is for women, hook ups for men

I agree. That's how evolution is supposed to work. High IQ alpha Chads get to impregnate tons of pussy while weakling low IQ cucks like OP will forever be pissed off at the world b/c he has no state sponsored pure virgin gf.

Look at the number of children procreated in religious christian families versus the number of children procreated in "liberated" atheist marriages and call me jew again.

While I completely agree with the no hookup culture, no porn, no degeneracy, etc.--We also have to be mindful that perfection is not built from perfection. It starts with chaos and condenses into a single wave that permeates every mind in society to desire the same life, to behave the same way, to build the same things. Whether you agree with the Nazi ideology or not, anyone of reasonable judgement has to admit that the self contained economic boom of the mid-to-late thirties was incredible. Was it born from perfect people? No. The survivors of the Weimar degeneracy knew the exact consequences of their past sins and desired to build a society where they sacrificed themselves to defend a new generation of people that bore no sins of their own and yet, desired the same cultural perfection of their stained parents. Unfortunately, the parents failed to win, and their children were also sacrificed in the battle to preserve their society. We can't be so myopic as to limit those who start our society. We will need many parents stained in sin to sacrifice themselves for their untainted children. Redemption is the realization of one's reality.

nothing screams "insecure virgin" more than this lmao

>But i don't think marriage is worth jack shit if it's "forced"
it will never work any other way. it has to be socially and legally mandated. teens will never understand why marriage before sex is so important at their age. nobody does until their 30's or 40's maybe, some never understand ever. Not saying they should have their mate picked for them, but they should extremely afraid of having sex before marriage

Saved

You made an entire thread about pissed off you are about women.

Sounds to me like you're projecting buddy. And you're mad people don't want to be beta fags like you.

hey i'll post my body with a timestamp if you agree to do the same. i'll go first.

i want to see if you look like how i imagine you look

what if you get forced to marry someone that you despise
should you just accept that you are going to be unhappy your whole life because of someone else
This is honestly what i have been trying to say this whole time
If i fuck around , i get "addicted" to it and my life will suck because of it at least i know it's my fault and i'll accept that
But what i wouldn't accept is that i'm forced to marry someone my life will suck because of it and it's not even my fault

By that logic, why not be a Muslim?

Oh wait, Swede poster... you almost had me Mohamad.

While most of the liberals ruining the US (and by extension the leftists ruining Europe as well) are not spiritual beings, that's not the reason for the degeneracy. Their degeneracy stems from a combination of ideologeous influence (not dissimilar to the one created by religious spirituality) and a lack of rational thinking abilities. That's why i came up with muslims as an example - they are (as a group) very much spiritual beings (just as many sub saharans are), and yet the label "lower than animal" fits many of them. At the same time i can't really think of any rational person fitting the label "lower than animal", since rational people are usually the ones suppressing degenerate or animalistic urges (regardless wheter it is to their own disatvantage or not); Again - Leftists are not rational in any way.

don't ignore me, sweetie.

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Ok, you first though

I pinky promise I'll do it too

yes i know the kike propaganda. The alcohol lobby and marketers spent obscene amounts of money convincing americans of the wonders of alcohol and bitterly attacking the temperance movement. its complete bullshit. ive personally watched families be torn apart by alcohol and the destruction spills over to the next few generations. its not worth it. it needs to go

Get a load of this goy.

>fellow white people. sex is good you virgins LUL

false dichotomy, nobody said anything about forced commitment.
>If i marry a girl and she marries me because it's our duty, and not because we choose to, would that really make us happy?
Unless you are in your rebellion stage, yes. Fulfilling our duties makes us happy and relieved. did you even think before asking that rhetorical question?
>And i agree that Morals are essential, but one must do what's right because of his own conscience not because society tells him what's right
Literally nothing good in society tells you to fuck around. Unless television and commercials count as good, in which case I have nothing more to say to your rotten mind.

>We have to choose to believe on our own thanks to our freedom
I have honestly not met one respectable person who has said: "I just wanna get laid bro, lets go party!!". and contrary to your beliefs I am not a shuttin.

>beatings only happen in marriage
You picked that straw and you defeated it magnificently, well done!

>Happy marriages don't end in divorce.
in todays femnist society of: 'its just sex'; I think cheating is more common and that leads to "happy divorces". among other reasons..

Our swiss friend is talking about how degeneracy is making relationships worse. But nice try. Go build a scarecrow with your strawpicking skills.

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i said they shouldnt have their mate picked for them. i said it needs to an egregious social taboo to have sex before marriage

You're missing everything key to happiness. If you're relying on someone else to fulfill your happiness then you're going to be miserable forever. Happiness is something that comes from pursuing meaning in your own life, not because a girl likes you back.

As for the random sex not making people happy, I can personally comment on that. I was very promiscuous from 16-21, sleeping with over 150 women most of whom were "random" initially sometimes friends with benefits after. It does make you happy, just in a different way than a long term stable relationship does. At that time I was very focused on school and work and not interested in investing time in a relationship so why not develop my sexual and social skills with hooking up? During this time most of the girls I slept with found the experience overwhelming positive and in many cases pursued more than I was interested in giving. The only people who "lose" in hook up culture are women interested in starting a family and low status men. If you're honest about your intentions theres nothing wrong with it. So if you want to have a discussion about enforced monogamy at least be honest about why we should have it, to help the low status men and women who want children young. Because the argument that it's unfulfilling doesn't hold up to those who are actually participating in it.

ive personally watched families be torn apart by organized crime and the destruction spills over to the next few generations. its not worth it. Drug prohibition needs to go

How much is the mob paying you? Just curious. Because even a 6 year old braindead nigger could research what actually happened during prohibition, and how consumption of alcohol didn't drop, organized crime rose ten fold, and safe, FDA approved alcohol was replaced with bootleg, sometimes deadly home made moonshine.