Crimea?

Who does Crimea belong to Jow Forums? Is it Ukranian, or is it Russian?

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in the eyes of the international community, ukraine in reality/De facto, russia

It's Russia's by right of conquest.

Maybe crimeans ppl who live in crimea

It's settled then. Crimea belongs to the Crimean Khanate.

Russia. Used to be Ukraine but they decided to go full retard and flip to NATO without actually having the power to police thier own territories.

Obama has alot to answer for; the fuckery that went on in the Ukraine and Syria was designed to rob Russia of thier warm water ports and degrade thier status as a nuclear triad.
Instead Russia got to formalize its control over Crimea (and Syria too), Turkey became more radical and the EU was destabilized by the migrant crisis.
What a dumb fucker.

central banks, just like the rest of the world

Crimea belongs to the kingdom of theodoro.

Long story. Back in the 30's, Stalin cut a deal with an American Jewish organization called JOINT. The deal was that American Jews gave Stalin lots of money in exchange for setting up a Jewish state in the Crimea. The plan was called "Crimean California". Stalin starts expelling Crimean Tartars and German colonists and settling Jews there, but WWII gets in the way.

Fast forward after the war, and the state of Israel is created and the Soviet Union becomes the first country to recognize it. Stalin thinks that the deal for Crimea is off because the Jews have another state. Not so fast. Golda Meir (aka Golda Myerson) goes to the Soviet Union and organizes two rallies to make Stalin live up to the old agreement. Stalin wises up finally that the Jews will never be satisfied and starts purging, but Stalin dies, probably poisoned.

Fun fact: Stalin collapsed on the day of Purim in 1953 and died two days later.

Fast forward again, the time with Khrushchev. He gets the Soviet Union off the hook of this deal by transferring Crimea to the Ukraine, which was officially a different country (Ukraine, even though part of the USSR had its own seat in the UN).

Rightful ANGLO territory

Poland

Poland is a fake country just like Ukraine. Both are illegitimate love childs of the Brest-Litovsk treaty and treaty of Versailles.

Reichsgau Gotenland.

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>Canadian education
How does it feel to have no self-identity? Living on not your land? Your country is artificial and young, get out shill.

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Belongs to Moldova ergo Romania by matrimonial alliance by the marriage of Stephen the Great and Maria Asanina Palaiologina.

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The Russians are brutally genociding the Ukrainians and the Tatars there as we speak. They have to be deported back to the Siberian shitholes they crawled out from, their homes must be confiscated and given to the Ukrainians and the Tatars as reparations.

Rightful Turkic clay

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Yep

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einjahriges reich kek

This, millions of innocent Ukrainians are killed there EVERY DAY because they just don't want Russian tanks in Crimea!! NATO intervention when?

Cut out your sarcasm, lakhtahole. People are being arrested and tortured there just for daring to speak their native languages: if that's not genocide I don't know what is. Maybe what Putler has been doing to you last 18 years.

Ooga booga indeed, President Obama.

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Is Ukraine even a real country?

this is what """reddit""" thinks. surprised?

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Nice proxy, Vlad.
Since Ukraine gave up their nukes in return for Russia pinky-promising that it would respect Ukraines' borders, maybe NATO should give Ukraine some nukes now.

Serious answer:
Crimea being part of Ukraine was an error made possible only by the clusterfuck known as the desolussuon of the Soviet Union. It happened so fast that countries divided based on the borders of soviet republics, and Crimea was part of the Ukrainian SSR because Krushev decided so on a whim. Crimea was always ethnically Russian, and it's a fiercely patriotic place with great historical significance to Russia (the conquests of Catherine the Great, the Crimean war, WWII).

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It's simple you fucking pussies. It doesn't matter who has the 'right' to it. But who fucking conquered it or has the bigger army to enforce it.
What difference does it make who has a bigger spiritual right to it or whatever.
I don't like Russia at all, but the territory is theirs right now, try and take it from them, they have an army to respond with.

>Crimea was always ethnically Russian
hmmm

It's legally Ukraine territory. It's not geographically connected to Russia. No developed nation recognizes the Russian invasion and occupation. But it's a good thing that Putin clings to it, the sanctions are costing Moscow $200 billion per year, and it's really hurting Putin's inner circle of Jewish oligarchs

Кpым пpинaдлeжит Укpaинe

Ok, got me there, it was originally Tatar. Just like a lot of historically Russian territory was. Certainly not "Ukrainian".

Crimea is Moldavian clay.
That vodka might damaged your brain a little.

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>implying sanctions will stop when they give Crimea
>implying Russia will do anything else than sell oil and they do sell it with or without sanctions
Russia should create own industry like in Soviet Union. There's no moving forward waiting for international community. Ukraine too, should create own industry.

>Serious answer:
>Crimea being part of Ukraine
Crimea is part of Ukraine

Lol leaf gaymen education

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It isn't
Also, that's the gayest land border

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>implying Russia will do anything else than sell oil and they do sell it with or without sanctions
Because of the criminal level of corruption, dishonesty and treachery always expected when dealing with Russians, no one wants to make any deals with them.

It's Ostrogothic, all the slavshits can fuck right off.

Btw, there are constantly archeological expeditions in Crimea, you can sign up for free, you dig up Greek cities at day and drink vodka at night. Maybe even swim around if it's near the sea. Gonna go on one this summer, feels good man

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The meat to the problem is only one: USA wants to sell oil instead of Russia. China will buy Russian oil with or without USA sanctions. If EU stops buying Russian oil, then it just makes China stronger. You literally can't win against China, since they are independent, they buy, you sell.
Prototip: Russians sell, USA sells, China buys, EU buys and sells.

haha gtfo with your mongols

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just like all of russia up to the ural
Tfw a fake country that is a puppet state of britain calls a country founded over 1000 years ago fake

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>The meat to the problem is only one: USA wants to sell oil instead of Russia.
The US banned crude oil exports for the past 35 years. So you're welcome for the 1/3 century head start

>China will buy Russian oil
Russia's oil wells are drying up. The oil itself is becoming heavier and more sour. It requires a lot more processing than the refined crude oil the US is exporting. Plus Russia cut a deal with Saudi Arabia to cut back on production a few years back, in the hopes that artificial scarcity would drive the barrel price back up. That failed when the Russia started arming Qatar with anti-air missiles. Putting missiles in their enemies' back yards is OK when Russia does it, but Russia hypocritically shrieks when anyone else does.

>coneheads were real

>huned

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WHO THE FUCK GIVES A SHIT YOU SUBHUMAN SLAVSHIT
WE ARE BEING INVADED BY MIGRANT HORDES
FUCK YOUR RETARDED INFIGHTING

Crimean Tatars

During The Bloshevik revolution The Crimea Island was reserved for The jews

It's ours.

And you're ours ;^)

>not geographically connected to Russia
This triggers the cuckhole nationalist who ran away to America despite being very proud of his nation.

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Whoops, mistook your flag for the Crimea Tatar one

>should create own industry
Did you forget about 40s-60s?

They have their own industry but Russia just isn't creative enough to think outside of selling gas and oil to other countries.

When does Russia annex ex Soviet territory?

Soon hopefully. This bullshit with the Baltics is getting annoying. They're worthless shitholes but they constantly try their hardest to bust Russia's balls. Better to just go in there and purge.

зoлoтaя opдa вepнeтcя

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Yeah, at least the Finns are smart, they know Russia is too strong to handle militarily, so in order to keep their independence during the Cold War they cooperated with both them and the West.
The Balts online that I talk to are always by far the most butthurt about Russia and screaming muh opression constantly.

Its russian but we are denying reality in the west. We don't like it but we wont do anything about it. Real Politik, Russia wins this one. its too late now.

Bulgarian.

V interes na istinata prabulgarite sa uprajnqvali 4erepna deformacia.

just steppe fashion

Ukraine is a legal fiction, all "ukraine" is rightful Muskovite clay.

Man-made bridges are not geographical structures

Remember when you faggots sided with Turks against Russia? Your cuckoldry goes all the way back to the 1700s.

>inolying moldova is real

Rightful Slovenian clay.

>Its russian but we are denying reality in the west.
You are denying reality with your VPN, comrade. Why is it Russians always have to lie?

Genoan

>implying slovenia is rightful slovenian clay

ALL EASTERN EUROPE BELONGS TO IVAN'S BIG MIGHTY RUSSIAN DICK

it may have a large percentage of ethnic russians but that doesn't mean it belong to russians

It's Russian for sure. The Russians fought long and hard for the place. It was Russian until the late 1950s and was only made part of Ukraine for administrative reasons.

When the USSR split up in 1991 the Crimea had been part of Russia for hundreds of years and barely 30 years as part of Ukraine.

If it was up to me I would also split off New Russia too. Ukraine is such a fucked up basket case. They don't deserve the place.

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Seems to me that you're the one denying reality with a VPN, Mykola. How does it feel seeing Crimea laugh at you as their wealth and quality of life grows even more, leaving your African nation even further in the dust?

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My friend done that when he was doing his archeology course. Great fun. You don't even need to understand Russian that much.

I meant Russia, please disregard that post, I suck cocks

>Is it Ukranian, or is it Russian?
If there is no such thing as Palestine, then there sure as hell no such thing as Ukraine. So, Russia.

what about this?

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It belongs to the Goths, Theodoro needs to be ressurected

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bozgor btfo

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Broke: Crimea belongs to the Ukrainians
Woke: Crimea belongs to the Russians

Ascended: Crimea belongs to the tartar

Fuck you tar tars are shit, Goths are the true inheritors of Crimea

Nah, fuck those Muslim slave traders.

Why are Slavic women stereotyped as whores and golddiggers?

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well just look at that face, she obviously wants the money more than the hand

Do you guys want to reunite with Moldova?

Blonde women tend to be the most promiscuous.

i personally do not.
all those peasants want is to move easier to the west.
they don't really want to unite with romania.
most of them are russians or russophiles.
we will have problems with russia agitating things.

but the language is the same shit, right?
also are Serbs your best neighbours or is that just a meme?

F P B P
So when 90% choose to be Russian....

Crimea belongs to Russian Empire. So it's ours and same to Tsardom of Poland, Grand Duchy of Finland, Tsardom of Georgia etc.

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Historically it has belonged to Russia.
I don't feel the need to dispute that.
Pretty sure if some country tries to take it from Russia, Russia will use tactical nukes on them.
Putin warned as much.

this 100%

And the Baltics, where Russians are being tortured every day.