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RUNDOWN
About 1.5 weeks ago: Tommy Robinson was arrested for disturbing the peace by reporting (streaming) outside a Muslim rape gang trial at courthouse. He was arrested despite having obtained police permission to film. Law enforcement ordered Tommy's lawyer not to come, and forced Tommy to have a court appointed one instead. The appointed lawyer advised him to plead guilty to contempt of court charges for reporting in the street, in order to get a minimal sentence if any. During trial, the judge stated he wasn't interested in watching the whole livestream - that is, the evidence, which included Tommy getting police permission to film. Tommy pled guilty strategically as advised by his sham lawyer and was sentenced to 13 months in prison within 1-3 HOURS, which is unheard of.
Tommy's opposition claims he was disrupting court, risking the need for a retrial. Yet, the only information he reported about the trial was already reported by other media, placing it in the public domain: names of the accused and charges. The evidentiary portion of the trial was also already over; it was sentencing time. And, again, he was in the street. Nothing to disrupt, no way to disrupt it.
Now: The people are pissed. Police have protected Muslim rape gangs routinely for decades, and some also participated in the rape and abuse of young British girls themselves, while simultaneously arresting thousands of native Brits for making "offensive" social media posts about the migrant problem. Tommy has been imprisoned for reporting on the rape and destruction of the UK. He is clearly a political prisoner, imprisoned for fighting for his country and for loving his people. He is one of the bravest men alive today and we should all strive to be more like him; and then take it further, beyond simply opposing Islam. It isn't safe for Tommy to publicly oppose the invasion. The people must do that themselves. Only with great numbers can the invasion and its propaganda be overturned.
Jacob Young
SHILL VACCINE 1
>BUT BUT BUT... Didn't Tommy express his views in a way that created a substantial risk of serious prejudice to the proceedings by jurors seeing or becoming aware of his livestream?
If the jurors don't have the self-control to avoid a niche livestream as ordered by the courts, and also don't have the strength of mind to properly weigh one man's opinion, they are unable to properly assess evidence and arguments presented in a trial, and so they are already unfit for jury duty. If the law must be this paternalistic, the law itself is declaring the perpetual need for mistrials in all trials due to juror incompetence and unreliability. In reasonable court systems, juries are instructed not to follow the news and are trusted to abide by that instruction. If they can't be trusted to follow that order and remain impartial, they can't be trusted to perform their duty as jurors, because they are either betraying their own oath of impartiality, or can't assess the truth claims presented in the trial, or both.
>BUT BUT BUT... Wasn't Tommy appointed an experienced and highly credentialed, competent lawyer?
Tommy was not allowed to have HIS lawyer. The appointed lawyer's credentials are beside the point. No amount of credentials proves genuine dedication to the interests of the defendant. As this is a highly political case for reasons already stated, and because Tommy has additionally been upsetting the legal system by launching several lawsuits against the police for their harassment of him and his family, it is especially necessary Tommy to have the freedom to meet with, and be defended by, his own established counsel.
It's called tanking, friend. Tommy is attracting the ire of Muslims by allying himself with Zionists, to make the true hateful Muslim character more visible, exposing its weak points so the rest of us can fight it. Whether he is a Zionist or not, he is a public figure, and so his professed alliances are bound to be strategic.
One can not sleep or argue beside a rabid dog. It will be safe to argue about Zionism later. We can't afford to let this divide us right now.
Also keep in mind that blaming Jews, the people Muslims hate most, for bad Muslim behaviour, is exactly what would benefit Muslims most. Muslims are begging us to blame their enemies for the atrocities they commit against us. They want nothing more than to shift the blame.
Also, keep yourself safe and strong. Get in shape. Practice self defense / martial arts. Stop spending frivolously and start saving up an emergency fund. Get to know more of your neighbours. Host non-political block parties and BBQs to build community cohesion. Redpill your new friends carefully and slowly. A backfire could fuck up your social life. Find out whether your boss would be willing to fire you for your opinions. If so, start looking for a safer job. Who knows how far this will spread or how ugly it'll get. We need our people to be as tough and independent as possible.
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>WOAAH FUCKIN HELL MATE WE'VE GOT DO SOMETHING ABOUT THESE FUCKING MUSLAMICS, THEY'RE FOOKIN OUT OF CONTROL MATE THEY'RE RAPIN LITTLE KIDS
>WAIT WHAT THE FUCK DID U JUST SAY DID U SAY THAT BLACKS ARE FUCKIN' ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAJORITY OF KNIFE CRIME IN LONDON AND BEYOND? YOU'RE A FUCKIN RACIST MATE, YOU'RE FUCKIN SCUM FUCK OFF YOU LITTLE PRICK FUCKING HELL NAH MATE AFRICANS BRINGING IN BUSH MEAT AND SHIT IN THIS COUNTRY IS A FUCKING LIE MATE. MATE YOU SOUND LIKE A FUCKING RACIST I FUCKIN' HATE CUNTS LIKE YOU GET LOST YOU FUCKING PRICK GO FUCKING GO DO ONE YOU'RE A FUCKING MESS MATE LIKE JUST FUCK OFF BRUV OK
>MATE THEY CAN STAY HERE AND WE NEED MORE BLACKS ANYWAY THEY'VE INTEGRATED WELL MATE NOTHING WRONG WITH THEM ME FUCKING SISTER MARRIED A BLACK BLOKE HE'S A FUCKING LEGEND YOU CUNT
>WHEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! GOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL GET IN THERE NGUBU MY SISTERS SON! GO ON LAD!! >ALSO JEWS ARE THE REAL VICTIMS, MY SON. STAMP THAT ANTI-SEMITISM OUT MATE. THEY'VE SUFFERED MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE ON THE HISTORY OF PLANET EARTH HAS EVER. AND DON'T FORGET LONDON IS SHIT BECAUSE SADIQ KHAN AND DAVID LAMMY NOT BECAUSE OF THE TORY GOVERNMENTS IMMIGRATION POLICY.
>/sei/ Please stop shilling your gay little club. This stuff is important.
Elijah Lee
>"I'm giving you a suspended sentence, but let me make this clear, if you do this again, you WILL go to prison" >Does it again, goes to prison >"WTF FREE ARE TOMMEH" Baka
They're trying to bury it now. This is why we need to start meeting up offline; If you're not shitposting, you're being shilled. At least undercover informants won't scream over you when you're trying to have a basic planning session.
Ian Morgan
>anything ordered by a judge is necessarily moral, just and in the best interests of the people
>real discussion wtf do you wanna talk about ? whats the point ? you dumb fucks really think the fat chav scum of the country are going to change anything ???? they literally watch niggers run around kicking balls for fun. they are not /ourguys/ they are the fat worthless shitbags who have done nothing for the past 20 years whilst the country has fallen apart
Nicholas Perez
You didn't watch the footage of the protests, then. They weren't EDL old guard, they were ordinary people who had enough.
Austin Phillips
It's about legality, not morality. I'm not saying he should be in jail, but it's almost as though he got sent there on purpose.
Jackson Lewis
>they were ordinary people who had enough. Ordinary brainwashed people who are being used as pawns in the bigger scheme of things.
>but it's almost as though he got sent there on purpose. I really believe this now after seeing what I've seen
Colton Hill
Your bank balance doesn't count.
Ian Diaz
>they were ordinary people who had enough. No they are not. They are mugs who're letting off steam because they are only just realising how fucked they are. if they had stopped watching the footie for five minutes 20 years ago they would of seen this coming.
Hunter James
The elites cower to the threats of pathetic islamists, you really think that they have the wherewithall to organized controlled oposition and all that tinfoil bullshit?
Christian Turner
friendly reminder - pic related is the only thing that can save the country
Ok fair enough... im referring to those who're older. But still... I don't see how these lads marching about Tommy is going to save fucking anything. We should be marching for Mosley & Enoch... we should be [comment redacted] & [ comment redacted] our enemies. These lads are more concerned with harassing the police and I highly fucking doubt they have spared a moment's thought to what needs to happen to save the country.
Thomas Stewart
Which is why we need to be organising here, in order to use that energy ourselves. How do you propose we go about getting the kind of numbers on the streets that these guys already have? How do you propose we play to our base when our base is out marching on the street for Tommy Robinson, and as a result you won't touch them?! THIS is our opportunity. Yesterday was a tipping point for the right, and we'd be stupid not to take full advantage of it.
Kevin Phillips
You have go to be kidding me lol. This is not the tipping point. Actual civil war is not going to start in the UK... it will start elsewhere in Europe maybe 5 - 10 years from now & will spread to here. stop wasting your energy getting your hopes up over these football wankers and prepare yourself mentally and physically for the real fight
James Scott
Actually the Swastika variant of the Union Jack was around just before the BUF, I believe it was used by the Imperial Fascist League.
Lincoln Rodriguez
OY! nothing is happening goy go back to sleep NOW!
Luis Powell
The thread title's hyperbolic, yes. Dosn't change the fact that i saw a crowd of 20,000 people chase down a whole line of police yesterday and they have plans already set for another protest next month. How can we prepare for the fight if we're not even ready to secure our position?
>We should be marching for Mosley & Enoch... You total twat, both Mosley and Enoch are dead. You might take their ideas, but to march FOR dead people is pointless at a crisis like this. Tommy Robinson, whether ideologically pure or not, is the catylist that will do something: and you edgitarian faggots who make a protest about everything, for whom nothing is "extreme" enough will amount to nothing but armchair nationalists in this time of struggle.
Alexander Martinez
>20,000 unorganised wankers chasing met police unironically gives you hope lad if i had 20,000 brits.. london would look like a fucking nuke had hit it
You don't know that, you couldn't possibly. You can speculate based on your programming but you're part of the problem with your attitude. Enough people are angry enough to start a conflict. It can very easily begin, in a similar way to Ireland. If you don't want it to happen say so but don't declare that it won't because ... it just won't ... doing that only make you sound like a crap mong cow.
Noah Walker
30,000+ even when the media police and government collaborated to shut it down by lying and saying it was cancelled, and even stopping people from travelling there! fuckin pieces of shit, and dont think we dont all know about this shit n what they tried to do now, as well as starting violence etc etc and gettin BTFO!
So what the fuck have you done recently?! You HAVE 20,000 Brits (actually more like 30,000 )- But you're throwing away the chance to help them organise and build our base on the most flimsy fucking excuse!
Ethan White
best assume retards like that are shills mate, we know half of em are
Logan Barnes
>You HAVE 20,000 Brits Except not because they've been given over to a false leader in Tommy. You couldn't possibly organise them for any cause Tommy wouldn't personally denounce.
Robert Bennett
IRA tactics wouldn't work with modern surveillance technology
Parker Hughes
I don't think bombing shopping centres would do much good
Anthony Hernandez
>UK CIVIL WAR GENERAL.
LOL Here in Scotland Tommy Robinson is almost unknown. Most of my friends are nationalistic and nobody knows who Tommy Robinson is.
There isn't going to be a civil war get out your bubble.
Cooper Phillips
It's the other half that's the problem. W just treat them all like shills, we're going to lose a lot of new people's interest very quickly.
They're British Nationalists, they're loyal to Tommy because he's the biggest person sticking up for British Nationalism at the moment even if it is civicuckery. We are a better nationalist alternative, and if we had any kind of standing in their campaign then he'd bleed supporters every time he made some stupid remark about Israel being best ally. But you won't even try, because apparently overthrowing the existing monopoliees on thought & power shouldn't take any effort on your part or it isn't worth it. Fuck off.
Lucas Wright
>We are a better nationalist alternative, and if we had any kind of standing in their campaign then he'd bleed supporters every time he made some stupid remark about Israel being best ally. Bollocks. Absolute fucking bollocks. People want the safe alternative, and that's exactly what Tommy's civic kowtowing is. Note that the EDL was founded in 2009, the year that the BNP hit its absolute zenith of support, sweeping the locals and getting Nick Griffin into the Euro Parliament. They HAD an actual ethnically conscious nationalist alternative before Tommy started throwing himself about, but what happened? They jumped ship to be with the safe option. >because apparently overthrowing the existing monopoliees on thought & power shouldn't take any effort on your part or it isn't worth it. Fuck off. It's not a one-man job and you know it.
Ian Stewart
fair enough, i think i've figure out what they dont like, they dont like a persistent general or persistent discussion of this to organise, gain more followers and make them more frequent, they seem to be deathly scared of it and try to shit it up
Do this level of damage and suddenly people want to negotiate.
Adam Nguyen
No, it's not. And apparently it's not a 30,000 man job either, because clearly, men chasing down a line of police in the most heavily surveillanced city in the world with uncovered faces are looking for an easy option. You lying fucking coward.
Eli Young
>kike stooge gets to go to tolerance camp for a year Oh no, I'm so sad.
>IRA tactics wouldn't work with modern surveillance technology The IRA didn't use the internet, if you avoid using the web you should be fine.
Oliver Torres
this
Gavin Lee
>And apparently it's not a 30,000 man job either, because clearly, men chasing down a line of police in the most heavily surveillanced city in the world with uncovered faces are looking for an easy option I didn't say an easy option, did I, you moron? I said a 'safe' option. An option that lets them avoid having to declare their ethnic identity and declare their intention to act on their ethnic interests. That's what Tommy's selling. A nationalism in the most debased sense. An idea where it's okay to be outbred by foreigners in your own country, so long as they drink tea and pay lip-service to nebulous (((British values))). And it's almost as harmful as Multikulti. It concedes the key points, that race/ethnicity aren't prime factors, that identity is about, "values," (really just a collection of vague platitudes), that a 2nd generation foreigner can be just as British as an Anglo-Saxon. It's just Multikulti in a velvet glove rather than a steel gauntlet, because at the end of the day multiculturalism is just a polite way of saying multiracialism. The most useful thing Tommy can do at this stage is get shanked by a Paki in jail, that'll at least demonstrate how little of a shit the state gives about even civic cuckolds.
Caleb Myers
And apparently it's not a 30,000 man job either, because clearly, men chasing down a line of police in the most heavily surveillanced city in the world with uncovered faces are looking for a SAFE option. Yeah, that sounds so much better. You stick to hiding in your bedroom if that's what you want to do, and wait for an equal-sized group of hardline nationalists to just fall out of the sky into your lap before you'll consider it worth it. The rest of us will focus on not losing the momentum we already have.
Adrian Walker
I think he was talking about CCTV cameras.
Tyler Wilson
>CCTV cameras. Better start learning about prosphetic makeup in that case, but half the time the cameras aren't even on.
Anthony Wood
>The rest of us will focus on not losing the momentum we already have. You don't seem to understand that that momentum is only taking you to the same end result of cancerous individualism and demographic replacement
Jaxon Robinson
Because faggots like you aren't prepared to take it any further. Like i said. Go back to your bedroom & wait for all your requirements for action to be fulfilled by magic. You'll be waiting there a long time.
Christian Harris
go to the next fucking march or shut the fuck up poof
Juan Moore
Wtf have you done recently other than spend all day defending civic "nationalism" on anime board
Cooper Taylor
>Because faggots like you aren't prepared to take it any further. I'm about to tear my fucking hair out here YOU CANNOT TAKE IT FURTHER IF YOU ARE REQUIRED TO ACCEPT THE KEY POINTS OF CONTENTION AT THE BEGINNING YOU CANNOT TAKE IT INTO ETHNIC NATIONALISM IF YOU ARE REQUIRED TO BEGIN BY TAKING A CIVIC STANCE IF YOUR MOVEMENT GAINS ITS SUPPORT BY ASSURING PEOPLE THAT YOU DON'T CONSIDER RACIAL/ETHNIC LOYALTIES TO BE KEY, IT WILL BE FILLED WITH PEOPLE WHO DO NOT VALUE RACIAL/ETHNIC LOYALTIES HIGHLY IF THAT IS HOW YOU FILL YOUR MOVEMENT, IT WILL BE DISPERSED THE MINUTE YOU TRY TO TURN TOWARDS ETHNIC NATIONALISM YOU CANNOT EXPECT A MOVEMENT TO MOVE TOWARDS ETHNIC CONSCIOUSNESS IF IT'S FOUNDATIONS ARE IN INDIVIDUALISM AND CIVIC NATIONALISM > Go back to your bedroom & wait for all your requirements for action to be fulfilled by magic And you can fuck right off. First of all, I don't see you doing much more than frittering away time on here (inb4 >b-b-but I'm spreading the good news!!!!). Secondly it's not automatically better to do something than to do nothing. Doing something retarded and actively counter-productive is far worse than doing nothing.
Connor Jackson
/a/ is the anime board. And congractulations on hopping straight back to the "defending civicuckery" shit when you lose the argument, you pilpulling little pissant.
Benjamin Nelson
It's almost like the law is not in the interest of the nation.
Josiah Anderson
Sargoy of mossad cucked out on the rally fucking pussy watch from 9.16
Translation- REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! If you're not willing to play to your base unless your base agrees with you 100% at the beginning then you're always going to lose. You either start somewhere or you don't start at all. If you're not willing to accept that, then you're not worth the time of nationalists of *any* stripe.
Evan Perry
fuckin little pussy prick never liked him, guess he's a commie antifag now fuck the cunt
Brody Thompson
>If you're not willing to play to your base unless your base agrees with you 100% It's not about 100% disagreement, it's about disagreement on the fundamental fucking points of contention, you spacker. If you are required to reject the primacy of ethnicity, you've not fucking won, especially not if you actively embrace foreigners in your group.
Aaron Walker
>Your bank balance doesn't count. Says the JEW... You can keep pushing this narrative, but the more you push the more people will wake up. So please continue
Anthony Rivera
So when i said "If we had any kind of standing in their campaign then he'd bleed supporters every time he made some stupid remark about Israel being best ally", where exactly did you read "but only if we're spouting the exact same ideas?" No wonder you don't want to commit to a project if your attention span is that fucking sparse.
Bentley Cook
>No, YOU! "this narrative" being an end to this government and the rapists and pedophiles they're bringing in to replace us, I take it. Don't worry, I will. And you keep spamming your pasta'd Maymays for shekels like it'll make it stop, whore.
Lucas Robinson
>And you keep spamming your pasta'd Maymays for shekels like it'll make it stop, whore. How ironic, I mostly post redpills and mention the JEW/ZOG All you do is go on about the moooslim Continue...
Brandon Thompson
You fucking moron. You're right, if actual British nationalists had any standing in his group, more than that if they had any presence in his group, it'd bleed members every time he made a comment about his being a Zioist, every time he went and posed for photos with an ethnic to show how inclusive he is, every time he went bleeding-heart about the plight of the poor Ahmadis, every time he shared a stage with sexual deviants, etc. But he does all of that, repeatedly, and no one bats an eye. THAT IS THE POINT. His movement is flooded with people who accept all of that. They accept multiracialism, accept values-based nationalism, reject ethnic nationalism, accept sexual deviance, accept Muzzies so long as they're as spiritually void as themselves. He has made those concessions, and so he has attracted to his cause people who think that way. Now how are his groups meant to turn hard to the right? How is anyone meant to turn them towards ethnonationalism when THOSE people make up the membership?
Kevin Butler
No, you don't. You use them as a cover to explain why anyone going after Islam is secretly in the pockets of satan, and it's as laughable as it is transparent.
Nolan Campbell
Tommy's a fag and the fact that he is being used as the poster-boy for our uncucking and undoing of shitty practices means that this entire thing is doomed from the fucking start. He's a gormless retard who has on many occasions got in shit for breaching judicial procedure, why people are choosing HIM to be the "look, here's the reason you should support us!" is fucking beyond me.
Samuel Green
>why people are choosing HIM to be the "look, here's the reason you should support us!" is fucking beyond me. The answer's simple youtube.com/watch?v=8SqsVsJGheI
No you faggot shill, I'm simply pointing out the fact that the movement is being led/directed by a false narrative which doesn't address the real cancer. Please continue.
Nolan Reed
can't wait til indy ref 2 and we cant get away from you backwards, racist idiots
Jacob Cruz
Someone else can/will emerge. Tommy may have caused a fire, but we need an Oswald.
Cameron Perez
(((Oswald))) I can't stand these stupid shills anymore lol
How many times has tommy gone on record about "how hard he had to fight" to keep people like us out or silent? Any excuse. Back to the bedroom with you.