Did you notice how there's not a lot of Holocaust denial left here anymore...

we've successfully concluded that "The Most Well-Documented Atrocity in Human History" was a fucking lie so we moved on

this.

the fact that there is not a lot of holocaust denial anymore is pretty much proof that there are no muslim shills here.

because some Israeli outfit was monitoring Jow Forums, and whenever a holocaust thread came up they pounced.

They had a huge treasure trove of sources and arguments available, they'd all brigade and support each other. I'm pretty sure they were also strawmanning their opposition

They ended up winning a lot of the arguments, so a lot of the newfags on Jow Forums believe the holocaust probably happened now. Arguing from their position is a lot easier, they don't need to prove anything, just muddy the waters enough to put people off.

Eventually the holocaust posting died off. That narrative has pretty much been conceded on Jow Forums at this point.

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Everyone here already knows the holohoax is fake so we can move onto other stuff

you get banned if you start those threads now

>because some Israeli outfit was monitoring Jow Forums, and whenever a holocaust thread came up they pounced.
Last two holocaust believers I knew of was one from /his/ that spend like 12 hours at a time defending da shoah because he hated the fact that we don't agree with the mainstream narrative of history and the other was a Portuguese that defended the shoah because he was anti-White.

Other than that it's usually just hit and run trolls and bluepill visitors.

>you get banned if you start those threads now
Yet the Communist General thread spammer remains...funny how that works out.

I was in several holocaust threads like this, where the argument was actually lost. Whoever the opposition people were, they had a massive library of sources, they had all their facts lined up in a row

Remember, the holocaust is an entire industry. They've spent 60 years creating a narrative that can counter opposing arguments

This. The Portuguese faggot use to get btfo time and time again. Speaking of which he will be here in a bit.

oh really? what rule does it supposedly break?

do you have any screencaps?

Death camps cannot be proven outside of USSR claims and jew rumors. There were camps, there was no systematic extermination. In hindsight, there should have been, but there wasnt. Jews are well known liars and exaggerators, they oy vey'd themselves some gibs after the war. Now new holocaust survivors turn up every year to claim those gibs. They've even started writing articles on how the holocaust trauma is being pasted down through DNA so they can preemptively justify why new jews deserve the gibs as well. Its all bullshit

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What did the hidden pages in her diary say?

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>Yet the Communist General thread spammer remains
don't forget about the strayan niggerdick threads and the t*rkroach black nationalism threads lmaooooooooooooooooooo

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there's this really, really autistic roach that got irreversibly triggered by being called a t*rk and he's been sperging out for about 2 years now. When he realized that people just started to filter the roach flag he switched to hiding behind reddit flags

progression:
>dead american soldier threads for 8-12 months
>niggerdick threads for 6 months
>wh*Te / niggerdick threads for 6 months to present

there is also a strayan niggerdick poster who got outed as a chink and now posts niggerdick using reddit flags just like the turk. lmao a chink cunt and turkroach team up to post their niggerdick collections to an anonymous cartoon porn imageboard

i wonder what boring and unoriginal shit will come next

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lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

The Donald and normal fags invaded and never fucking left. Remember when information was presented as part of arguments around here?

It's a tired subject, anyone who would dispute it knows better than to bring their beef here. They lurk on other boards bitching about le applesponge because they know they get rekt if they try to talk politics on the politics board.

It's also kind of a useless narrative imo. Let's say you convinced me 100% that the holocaust happened exactly as we're told it did, let's go one further and say you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was a uniquely evil crime without comparison in all of history.
It's not going to change a single one of my views. The existence of my people and nation is non-negotiable. Parade all the suffering and horror you like, I'm never going to throw up my hands and agree that it justifies the genocide of my entire race.

>Whoever the opposition people were, they had a massive library of sources, they had all their facts lined up in a row
Thing about it is, we revisionists have massive amounts of resources. That the exterminationists simply dismiss out of hand.

Like when we use the Nuremberg Trials against them, they simply ignore it.

Our evidence is in 40+ books and dozens of documentary films which makes it nigh impossible to use in a imageboard argument.

It's just stupid to let yourself be put into a position of defending 'holocaust denial'

1. it's completely hyped and rather irrelevant
2. the supporter of the narative are supposed to deliver the proofs

>Let's say you convinced me 100% that the holocaust happened exactly as we're told it did, let's go one further and say you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was a uniquely evil crime without comparison in all of history.
>It's not going to change a single one of my views. The existence of my people and nation is non-negotiable. Parade all the suffering and horror you like, I'm never going to throw up my hands and agree that it justifies the genocide of my entire race.
i would be happy that it happened and i would encourage it to happen again but i just am not convinced that it happened. not even close.

>Speaking of which he will be here in a bit.
Yeah, I think he uses the megaphone desktop tool to monitor Jow Forums

>do you have any screencaps?
nah. Stick around, they're practically posted daily.

>2. the supporter of the narative are supposed to deliver the proofs
inb4 paperwork and out of context and mis-translated speeches.

>oh really? what rule does it supposedly break?
the fat soys boy newfag reddit mods' feelings

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>They've spent 60 years creating a narrative that can counter opposing arguments
is this your actual semantic take on "the most documented event in human history"? sheesh

wait, it wasn't the EurasianTiger?

it was just like that but with couple extra links from wikipedia
not a big loss

I think you reference the idea of the White Pride being violent and irrational. It's... exactly that, what's your problem here?

the old ones are already refuted afaik

Because we all agreed that it didn't happen, but needs to.

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Yeah, I just don't care. Not even a little bit. It's like when some drunk in a pub wants to tell me about the time he met Bill Murray. I'm pretty sure he's lying, but it's literally not worth the effort of arguing the point. Sure, fine, it happened, so what?

>it wasn't the EurasianTiger?
if that's a name/tripfag then lmao nigger i haven't seen names/trips in years. only newfags don't force anonymity using 4chanx

>the old ones are already refuted afaik
Yeah but the OP of those threads rarely sticks around. And of course they never, ever debate logically and reasonably.

>I think you reference the idea of the White Pride being violent and irrational. It's... exactly that, what's your problem here?
What is that, some kind of canned response you had in your clipboard? Even if there was any basis to what you're saying it doesn't relate to my post now does it?
I'd ask if you've been drinking, but with that flag it's kind of a silly question.

>Sure, fine, it happened, so what?
Because it happened you must do what the Jews tell you, give the Jews money forever, and give the Jews support forever.

The Holocaust is used as a tool to keep you enslaved to Jewish interests if you accept it or not.

The existence of Israel and the Jews power structure is based on the Holocaust. Take that away and they have nothing. In fact, if the world as a whole accepted the Holocaust was a lie, they'd face a real Holocaust.

>Because it happened you must do what the Jews tell you, give the Jews money forever, and give the Jews support forever.
Except...no. It happened so I'm going to do exactly what I would have done if it didn't.
The premise that "holocaust is real therefore fuck whitey" isn't something I'm going to concede.

This.

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>What happened?
no one likes to get swatted

It does. You think that white nationalism is non-negotiable (which is a pretty stupid statement in itself), but this *objectively* only leads to more human suffering (e.g. the fucking Holocaust). You clearly have comprehension issues.

A huge amount of this board's userbase is in the US and the UK, where holocaust denial is perfectly legal.
I'm an English nationalist m8, but yeah it's non-negotiable. I reject the premise that we deserve to die out. If an occasional holocaust is the price we pay for *my own people* existing in this world, then desu I think that's worth it.

>White nationalism leads to genocide
It's so tiresome, juden.

>The premise that "holocaust is real therefore fuck whitey" isn't something I'm going to concede.
I understand that, but that's what's happening in society regardless of if you concede it or not.

>but this *objectively* only leads to more human suffering (e.g. the fucking Holocaust).
1) the holocaust did not happen
2) i don't give a shit about human suffering outside of my own people, and neither do you so just be honest and admit that you're virtue signaling

Amazing how Whites wanting the White race to exist leads to "genocide" but the Jews wanting the Jewish race to exist is perfectly acceptable.

It's pretty much accepted that the Holocaust and Ann Frank are bunkum, so no need to beat a dead horse.

Right, but the correct response is to reject the premise wholesale, not quibble about the details. When you make the argument about whether or not the holocaust happened, you implicitly concede that *if* it happened, everything that's been done to us since is a-okay.

>The holocaust is a lie! An elaborate hoax! Jews were treated with kindness and respect! Nazis would never, ever kill Jews!
>Jews are the greatest enemies of the Germans and of everyone in the world!
>Gas the kikes race war now!!

Did this narrative ever make sense? If you ever encounter a paradox, check your assumptions, one of them is wrong. Look, the Nazis definitely killed Jews on an industrial scale and they did so for ideological reasons.

Jow Forums has the attention span of a mudskipper on a mid summer full moon

>you implicitly concede that *if* it happened, everything that's been done to us since is a-okay.
pretty interesting. i normally just tell people that i just don't accept that the holocaust happened. i should go further in saying this, too

There isn't really a contradiction there. One can believe that the jews are the enemies of the white race without believing in one specific instance of that enemy being effectively resisted.

>Right, but the correct response is to reject the premise wholesale, not quibble about the details.
At which point you're thrown in prison regardless of your personal beliefs on the subject. Oh you're allowed to hold your own opinions to yourself (for the moment) but the second you express them, you're toast.

>you implicitly concede that *if* it happened, everything that's been done to us since is a-okay.
Yes, and the Jews actually do that.

'Islamization of Europe a good thing'
ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4299673,00.html
"We will never forgive Europe's Christians for slaughtering millions of our children, women and elderly… Not just in the recent Holocaust, but throughout the generations, in a consistent manner which characterizes all factions of hypocritical Christianity…

It's bottled up in the phrase "The Holocaust did not happen but it should have."

thats like 140k dollars. not bad but you could make a better wish

>i normally just tell people that i just don't accept that the holocaust happened
i just realized that it's illegal to say this in your countries (, ) holy shit i'm sorry you got ZOGGED so hard, mates

On a long enough time-frame we're all going to prison for wrongthink anyway. It's about getting through to enough white people to prevent it from reaching that point.

Everyone knows its fake, it's like kicking a dead horse at this point.

>i just realized that it's illegal to say this in your countries
It's coming here too eventually. The Jews just need a little more control in the Supreme Court and legislative branches. And some "good" reasoning as to why.

Like "hate speech" inherently violates the civil rights of minorities or something.

>On a long enough time-frame we're all going to prison for wrongthink anyway.
Not if we actually start to fight back (and I don't mean protests or voting)

Not here m8. You can deny the holocaust but not advocate making it happen for real. The problem is (((lawyers))) and (((judges))) getting creative with what actual constitutes advocating hatred of jews

It’s a myth.

Ashkenazi Jews are white tho.

Pic related. They’re close to Sicilians and Greeks.

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>Like "hate speech" inherently violates the civil rights of minorities or something.
the supreme court recently ruled that hate speech does not exist

>It's coming here too eventually.
I will deny it and die in a shootout with police when they come to arrest me. I swear upon everything good and holy left in this world that I will not live to see the first or second destroyed by commies and kikes.

Forgot to mention, I do expect some specific "antisemitism" law to come down the pipeline soon. Last year the government introduced a legal definition of antisemitism (which included "blaming jews for crimes real or imagined" funnily enough) despite there being no actual existing law to apply it to. I assume that had some reason for doing this, laying the groundwork for the next step.

>Ashkenazi Jews are white tho.
LOLNO.

They're a mixed, non-White race.

Cultures BY DEFINITION change, your fucking England will probably cease to exist in your lifetime
and it's not really yours since it doesn't belong to you in any way

does "your people" mean white? jews are white

being irrationally violent/voting trump/etc. will not save the white race, okay? it's not even a noble goal. you're just being dicks to everyone else

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See

>the supreme court recently ruled that hate speech does not exist
Give it time. They'll change that. or the industry will simply de-platform "hate speech". Kinda like what they did to Daily Stormer. but permanent and to everyone.

>I will deny it and die in a shootout with police when they come to arrest me.
Well you dying doesn't save the White race from the Jews.

>jews are white

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>jews are white.

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>being irrationally violent/voting trump/etc. will not save the white race, okay?
Not that you care about saving the White race.

>it's not even a noble goal. you're just being dicks to everyone else
"stop saving the White race you dicks!"

Yeah. great argument.

If Sicilians and Greeks are white, so are Ashkenazi Jews.

A half Ashkenazi half European is unequivocally white in almost every case. Use the mid point formula on a PCA map and you’ll see what I’m saying

The deniers won. There's no conversation left to be had. The holocaust never happened.

>does "your people" mean white? jews are white

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nsm is for feds with a small cohort of gen-x boomers who can't read

>If Sicilians and Greeks are white, so are Ashkenazi Jews.
No.

>A half Ashkenazi half European
50% "White" is still 50% non-White. Well past any threshold for anyone to consider someone White.

>? jews are white

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Race is about genetics, not self identification. Ashkenazis are white (or very close) in genetic terms

K. tell that to the kikes who flip-flop whenever it benefits them.

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Ashkenazi Jews are white. Pic related

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>nsm is for feds with a small cohort of gen-x boomers who can't read
Every single time the media uses imagery to defame the pro-White movement they use imagery from NSM rallies.
On top of the fact that the NSM doesn't actually do anything other than public rallies.
If the NSM aren't the Feds, they're surely doing the Feds work for them.

I can have as much identities as I want AND not be a racist moron at the same time! You can try it.

make sure you tell the kikes this news

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>racist moron
when you consider the facts, statistics, and evidence, racism is the only logical conclusion

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>AND not be a racist moron at the same time!
There's nothing wrong with being a racist though.

Nah. It’s just Stormfags overplayed their hand. Lots of unsourced and probably made up claims are pushed around here. When you see rebuttals elsewhere, they are well-sourced and fleshed out. The Holocaust deniers have totally dropped the ball when it has come to the Internet debate. Note: photoshopping a Holocaust picture and saying that the establishment did it, when you can clearly find the original in newspaper archives, makes for an exceedingly unpersuasive argument when the ruse is discovered.

I don’t believe that 6 million died, a lot of the stories about Holocoasters and lamp shades were made up, and it’s stupid that the Holocaust is brought up again and again to bludgeon whites into committing demographic suicide. But it’s certain that 1) the Holocaust happened; 2) more than a million Jews died; and 3) the entire operation was plausible. If a bunch of niggers with machetes can kill a million of their own in Rwanda in a month, then it’s entirely conceivable that the most industrious European country can systematically wipe out millions over the course of 3 years.

The only reason Holocaust denial is pushed so hard is because NEETsocs suffer from extreme cognitive dissonance over their support of Hitler. i.e. Hitler killed no Jews, which makes him good and is why we push back against the mainstream narrative, but he should have killed them all, which would have been what we want according to our own ideology. It’s like they can’t decide whether Hitler was a good person or a bad person for what he did, and they still feel social pressure to condemn Hitler for what he did (instead of accept it glowingly), so they try to convince people that it didn’t happen in a desperate attempt to remove the social stigma.

>ad hominem
not an argument. try again, sweetie

>Lots of unsourced and probably made up claims are pushed around here.
holocausthandbooks.com/

incidentally I have been watching that zundel a lot lately

>The holocaust is a lie, a very simple hoax created by bombing German supply lines so that starvation and disease became rampant in the concentration camps where Jews were being held because they were being expelled from the Reich (supplemented with fake evidence created by the Soviets to make the camps they took over look like death camps rather than relocation centers as well as the bald-faced lies of thousands of Jews). They were viewed as scum who attempted to invade and destroy Germany during the Weimar era, but treated respectably because the National Socialists were noble men.
>Jews are the greatest opportunists, pure evil who will seize upon one's weakness and collude with all traitors to establish a foothold in a society.
>The aftermath of the attempt by the National Socialists to free themselves from Semitic control has shown that merely taking back one's own country and expelling Jews is pointless while other nations still remain under their control to be used to invade and subjugate those that stray from their cabal. The only solution left is indeed total extermination of the Semitic race.
It makes perfect sense.

>Look, the Nazis definitely killed Jews on an industrial scale and they did so for ideological reasons.
evidence?

Whether or not the holocaust happened is irrelevant because jews still exist and there is nothing wrong with genocide.
the weak should be culled.
if the weak are the only thing that keep 'the strong' from dying humanity as a whole should be culled.

I want hitlers huge white dick to impregnate me

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My argument is that Stormfags push Holocaust denial because they suffer from cognitive bias and a lack of strategic sense. Their character, and thus “ad hominem”, is related to that argument, and thus isn’t a fallacy.

Try learning about how informal fallacies work, and maybe you’ll appear less like a fedora-tipping faggot, and more like a person with a brain.

>ad hominem
not an argument. this isn't reddit where the people arguing against your kikery is simply deleted/downboated into oblivion. try again, sweetie