America killed him for saying that

It's a part of town that no one wants to open a supermarket in because they make less profit due to shoplifting and other costs associated with urban areas.

i dont mind sharing if that's what you mean... besides, if we collectivize our back yards then its all good

oh i get it, "making the desert bloom" means driving the poor people out and replace them with yuppie-hipsters-tech-workers and fashionable butic stores...

got it

That already exists within our current system. It's called a community garden. Do you not have one where you live?

i actually dont, but i did hear of a man who went to jail for collecting rain water.

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If you drive out the capitalists you don't have supermarkets ,like in poor areas. You have to drive to multiple farms each weekend to get food. You could do this now, but you don't because it's easier to deal with a capitalist set up market. How big's your backyard. It takes about an acre to feed one person.

Well one you have to be an idiot to get caught. Simply lie and say you forgot to put the top back on your barrel. While it is a dumb law it should be in your interest to not collect rain water in a desert. It has a drastic negative effect on the ecosystem if everyone does it. I "collect" rainwater in this thing called a well and, I don't have to worry about it. Seems to me that you live in a shit hole. I trade with neighbors produce. I have two peach trees two cherry trees and two apple trees and a grape vine. They grow tomatoes, all kinds of chilli peppers and garlic. Every year we grow corn, cucumbers and potatoes in the community garden. Others grow green peppers, peas and different types of tomatoes. It's pretty cool to live with white people that are like me and to use our surplus of labor to provide as an act of charity and solidarity.

Actually farmers produce food. And farmers don't want their crops to be collectivized

why cant the workers set up a place where all the produce of the collectives is gathered and have all the people of this area come and pick what they lack?

how did the parasite become a capitalist dum dum

Standing pools of water, like the cistern your example likely used to collect rain water, are breeding grounds for pests, particularly the mosquito, and as such are a disease vector and public hazard. Your right to swing your fist ends at my face, and no matter how innocent collecting rainwater may seem, it can be a nuisance. There's nothing wrong with the public water system. You don't have to be a faggy hippy and collect rainwater to impress people.

this is most probably bullshit what you just wrote. american society is highly atomized and any sense of community is mostly decimated.

but who knows, right? maybe you live in some commune after all.....

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>Like, people could just work together and not pay for things and have a mutual co op
>People could just arrange to work together to create a commune without capital
>But not me, I'm too good to be a farmer or a truck driver or any of that, I'll be a chairman, or the coffee barista

Capital is a form of value that is transient to be used to exchange for goods or services and is a measure of value of your work, "But muh value of labor!" the value of your labor is divided by everyone up and down the line, and the grand majority of jobs are not creating, merely logistics (Getting A to B to be made into C and pushed to D so it can be sold by E to get to F and be used)

For the most part, a worker is paid regardless of whether the product sells or not, they are guaranteed a paycheck even if the owner takes a bad hit in sales. That's why it's appealing to work for a set amount rather than by performance, if you want to work by performance and completely have the rights to your labor and be the sole benefit of your labor, operate as an independent, Otherwise, agree to work for a guaranteed income when profit is not guaranteed as a worker for someone else.

Because people that produce nothing will show up and take shit. Also there's no reward for producing so it favors these people evolution wise due to their efficiency.

>public water system

what's "public", "public" isn't profitable. everything needs to be privatized in late capitalist societies.

private corporation supply the water you drink.

The inherent problem with the communist notion of mutual help is that labors are not equal, and the value of labor is subjective, best measured with a market.

You can judge people by needs, but that's dehumanizing and makes people unhappy because the labor of farming is different than the labor of mining, the miners who dig up the valuable resources to be processed into goods for the people (Say, iron for nails to build a house) will be incredibly unhappy that only his needs are met when he risks his life and health, while the person who dug out a ditch for rain water collection and now just makes sure animals don't fall in and drown and poison it, gets to mostly have the day off year round. The miner will want more compensation for his more demanding labor, but the only way to do that is to satisfy wants, and wants are very hard to satisfy under the communist value of labor, because it is not a need and thus is purely subjective. Someone must put labor into something that may be niche and not benefit society so as to satisfy a want, and then you have to judge the demand for supply, and then you create a market (even if capital isn't exchanged, goods and services are considered exchanged) and then you have to consider that the other hard labors will be unhappy as more and more leisure and "wants" labors are created, which creates a desire for a transient tool to show you have performed your labors and wish to partake in another person's labors, therefore, capital is your best function.

The people who create capital and distribute it (Managers/bosses/CEOs/Leaders) have to measure the supply and demand, and give thought on the demands of the labor, and pay accordingly so that the labor is fulfilled willingly, otherwise you either lack the labor, or you have involuntary workers, which is called slavery.

The people with capital then play an important role of managing the market to judge people needs and wants, and make sure that services and goods

>people that produce nothing

why should people not produce? people use more then food, you know.

are you saying that i wont make chairs and tables, for example becouse im not threatened with the prospect of hunger and homelessness.

are you saying that i wont build a home for myself or for a community member if no one is there to exploit my labor?

>no reward for producing

is the tomato that i lay on the table of my friends is not a reward? if i build a home and i live in it this is not a "reward"?

free people dont get "rewards". pets get reward from their masters. free people own everything they make, no one can reward them with anything becouse everything is theirs to begin with.

In order to get where you're at, you've profited from the labor of:

Your parents/guardians who raised you.

Everyone that has taken the time to teach you anything.

The taxpayers that subsidized your education.

The manufacturers of everything you own, everything you've consumed, and every place you've been.

Becuase human desire is infinite and the resources needed to produce goods are scarce.

Why do you so adamantly deny the most basic observations of reality?

>nigger who wont name the real (((capitalists)))
Fucking useless and im glad he's dead

are mutually exchanged in a way that benefits both parties, directly or indirectly, by contributing to society through wants and needs, if you have people merely bargain their own labor alone, you have bartering, and not everyone needs a new grill, so your job as a grill maker might lead you to a dead end, while capital, a form of payment that is always recognized and accepted, is much easier to exchange.

Now it's not perfect, there's a lot of scummy capital hoarders and inherited corruption, and capital doesn't always have something backing it, there ARE flaws, especially after 1970, but the system is far better than communist society, because by the end of the exchanges, it makes the system function easier and more efficiently while satisfying needs and wants.

It can be improved, but it shouldn't be destroyed.

>human desire

the adverting industry conditions you to desire many other people from across the continents and centuries considered useless. capitalism produces its own humans, those that chase after the commodities the advertisers dangle in front of their faces

oh goodie now a bunch of illiterate brown tomato pickers are gonna get to keep the 300lbs of tomatos they picked today but don't have the logistics to get them in somebody else's hands before they spoil what a dream

I'm saying some people will produce. Some won't. Those people that make nothing will show up at your place to pick up what they lack and take everything. You get nothing of substance for producing surplus except you get to feel good about providing for layabouts.

well, if some one is that lazy i dont mind giving him some fruits and vegetables for free.

kids dont usually produce things (except drawings and games) yet parents still feed their kids. besides, i think people still enjoy making things when their labor it their own.

you rightfully hav an aversion to work becouse in our capitalist societies one's labor is not one's own. a hooker that's sells sex can say that people will never make love for free becouse for her sex is forced labor. she grow an aversion of it.

>Making profit=bad
Explains why niggers still live in mudhuts

Back off Peterson! I washed my balls this morning and my room is immaculate, what more do you want from me?

For food and the desire to survive as well as the desire to strengthen ones own community

>exploit
>make full use of and derive benefit from (a resource)
so the only time the negro can work is if no one else benefits? sounds like he got what he wanted

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ABLOOBLOOBLOO

Your brain is riddled with a disease. A disease that will never work since we don't consent. You will have to kill us. Something I doubt you have the stones for.

Any dead nigger is good news to me.

The economy should provide for humanity, not the other way around

>America killed him for saying that
Who is this loser? and exactly who killed him? OP is a little fag bitch for not providing more info

>america killed him for saying that

Cool!

Go America then.

>The inherent problem with the communist notion of mutual help is that labors are not equal
More importantly... "mutual help" is a lie. People simply don't care about strangers that much. Communism works for the family unit where member care about each other - not so much for country with population of 300M plus.

implying there is anything worth gaining from niggers

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That's wrong

Capitalism just means that you can have your own business. Freedom.

Its downside is monopolies, but that's mostly due to state interference and making it hard to start your own with legislation.

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Kek

hello, Trayvon.

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late stage capitalism is for the gays

AND NO ONE ELSE BIGOT

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Don't worry soon they will be all driven out!

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He also said "white power for white people". He got a good old northern lynching, shot 80 times in his bed by po-lice. Jews and their pet goys are the enemies of entire human family.

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>America killed him for saying that

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>anarchist trying to stop someone from doing something
lmao

So I should paint your house for free?

>my room is clean
>my room
you mean OUR room, user

Good

*wokers

>can buy food but have to walk 1/2 a mile

Wahhhhh, mah poor feet. Shiiieeeet, better order some fried chicken instead LaKisha. Damn, this white devil sho' be O-pressing us colored folks shieeeet

Rightly So!

The Commie won't reply to a post like this. What's worse is knowing that he can't intelligently reply yet knowing that this will not cause him to question his idiotic sytem that's been proven to repeatedly fail. He's right and always will be.

Thank you for the compliment.

typical stupid nigger

>Winners are exploiters - The Communist

Then why does the worker sell his food? Why not just eat his food and keep it all for himself and let all the other people do the same?

The very fact that you admit the worker produces food for someone else means you understand how you're full of shit and literally double-thinking yourself.

But anyway, I don't even know why I'm wasting my time arguing with subhuman filth like you. Fuck you, communist slime.

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SHUT THE FUCK UP NIGGER
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I'm pretty sure it was just another nigger.

>Nigger criticizes capitalism because being a "pimp hustler" doesn't pay as much as a doctor.
Imagine my shock

>when you realize that communists (and socialists) take everything you earn (with or without your consent) and redistribute it however they want you may start to realize it's not about fairness, equity, nor compassion.

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>Ooga booga gibsmedat whitey

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the worker doesn't sell his food. he doesn't own what he creates, his boss does.

This. If you want your own crops just dig a hole in your yard and plant some tomatoes or carrots.

>workers produce food
Farmers produce food, and they do it for a profit usually for themselves, because they are capitalists.

>If you live in a society that means you support it
We can want the system to change while surviving in the present system. Capitalism makes it impossible to live without participating in it.

The US is too atomized, but there is still a sense of community in some towns.

>muh communism

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Bernie is a social democrat, not a Marxist-Leninist.

anarchy can't work because niggers exist.

Cold hard truth my friend.

Good. Communists deserve death. They are the worst kind of faggots. They will scream their heads off about the 1% but the moment you name the 1% they sperg out and defend them with their dying breath.

Lol good riddance.

Cause and effect do not apply here!

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Another nigger made "good".

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Good. He should have been thrown off a goddamn helicopter.

>Im a small child and i cant stand anyone else having greater responsibility and making more money than me

Hey dumb nigger its capitalism or no one eats except for a handful of oligarchs at the top
>Inb4 muh socialism
Wow also shit not ty kys.

>american society is highly atomized
>Meme flag

You dont even know what that means do you ?
You used that word wrong and youre a faggot.

Also Ive seen this shit hes talking about in nicer rural areas in texas so no youre a fucking moron. They sell the extra to strangers on the side of the road for profit too sometimes. Youre seriously a fucking moron and its obvious.

Good

When was the last time you bought food from "the workers" again hon?

once you name the jew, it's outta the chopper with you.

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