>healthcare is free at the point of use >government that believes in climate change so they have a focus on developing clean energy >gun control so there arent mass shootings every month >engages in fair and free trade, has good alliances with the best countries in europe >god-tier culture of outdoorsmanship and politeness >government believes in making it easier for educated people to prosper and bring in skilled jobs
and before anyone says "they take in too many immigrants", Canada actually has a strict immigration policy in which they mostly let in skilled and educated workers. I seriously am so fucking envious of Canada, its like a superior version of the USA in every way
>be canadian >buy a bottle of cheap whiskey for 30 bucks
>be canadian >have no money to spend on cheap whiskey because of taxes and cost of living
>be canadian >can’t shoot self 30 times to leave misery without reloading
>be canadian >forced to live a sober long depressing life in lgbt syrup land
Hunter Jones
I will trade citizenship with you and would hop at the chance to be an american
Jackson Morgan
>Be you >Move to Canada >Buy 20 acres >Find out you have to file a plan with the town council to cut any tree over 10 cm in diameter 1.2 meters above the ground. >Fuck socialism.
Carter Diaz
Trust me, no you wouldn't. You have it so much better. You guys have all the benefits of free trade + a government that cares about social welfare and the environment + immigration that prioritizes skilled people. Canadians seriously have it so much better than us.
William Evans
You forgot that at least when you're homeless you can freeze to death faster depending on location.
Thomas Collins
healthcare is free for some things but the wait times are ridiculous and prioritize for "urgent" which often means "rich or female tears in effect". also, immigrants are not as polite. social trust is low. i dont trust many people here, it's bad but i get y u think its good.
Blake Morgan
Our healthcare sucks balls 6 months to get an mri 4 months to see doctor 7 months to have surgery. I could've done all that in 3 days in burgerland. In fact I went to Buffalo for my mri cuz i'd rather pay 450 then wait 6 months. Plus you better be damn careful what doctor you see, half are retarded shitskins
Cooper Allen
because of the economy, thats why >
Adam Torres
Fuck off
Juan Nguyen
seems you are white and will be rejected wait thats not true I know an irish family that immigrated last year
Bentley Lewis
People have been saying house market collapse for 20+ years. I'll believe it when I see it
Jacob Torres
Seems would belong there faggot so go on now git.
Thomas Gray
Please leave asap
Camden Martin
Travel to the states a fair bit. The only real benifit I can see the US has over us is better weather options and cheap smokes/booze Besides that I'm okay with where i live in Canada, I'm payed well, lots of out door activities and not many black people...
Isaiah Rogers
You can pay for a quick MRI in most places in Canada...
Evan Roberts
>be american >make a a reddit tier post
Nicholas Moore
I live in Ontario... you can't here You can in Quebec but Buffalo was a much shorter drive
Jose Johnson
I've worked stateside before, trust me, you have it better than you think
Chase Butler
Oh sorry mate. Maybe i was mistaken.
Gavin Gomez
>god-tier culture of outdoorsmanship and politeness Hahahhahahhaha....snort....HAHAHAHAHA The Japanese are polite. You burgers are too dumb to recognize passive-aggressiveness.
If you're successful, america is infinitesimally better than Canada since all of your work stays yours, and there is less regulation (i.e. being smart in the US pays off 100x more than being smart in Canada). But the US is brutal for retards or neets because of the high competition in the job market. There are literal retards in Canada that have 90-110K salaries because its easier to compete when really smart people all escape to the US and high paying jobs aren't that demanded for relatively speaking.
Asher Gray
It did until Trudeau
Grayson Reyes
but its true. yes, canada lets in refugees and stuff. but when it comes to normal immigration its actually a lot more strict than us. if you want to immigrate to canada normally they usually want you to be a skilled worker with a college degree. they want to bring in people who they think will actually contribute to the economy.
Connor Allen
>being this much of a faggot Please go and stay there.
Xavier Peterson
>>healthcare is free at the point of use spent 3 years on a waitlist for a family doctor. Spent those 5 years paying an out of province walk-in clinic. >>government that believes in climate change so they have a focus on developing clean energy All the government has succesfully done on that front is give a millions of dollars to companies that have legal teams to fill out grant applications >>gun control so there arent mass shootings every month essentially anyone can get a license to purchase a gun in Canada after attending a one day class. The various school shooters tend to steal the guns from family/friends. The proportion of households with a gun in Canada is actually quite high, especially outside of urban areas. >>engages in fair and free trade, has good alliances with the best countries in europe Supply management dairy, crown owned timber. Canada engages in "free trade" because it's Mercantilism 2.0. Canada is basically just an oilpump sitting on some metal surrounded by forest. >>god-tier culture of outdoorsmanship and politeness yup. 'tis true >>government believes in making it easier for educated people to prosper and bring in skilled jobs The government believes in letting in "skilled" workers but provinces won't cooperate when it comes to recognizing these skills for licensing purposes so all the cab drivers are neurosurgeons and astronauts back home.
Cameron Thomas
We should send all our libtards to trufaux land and take the based Canadians here. Canada dies, we annex her and rebuild.
Camden Edwards
Do you want the real reason?
This country's people have a deep seated resentment toward truly successful people and generally prefer a bland mediocrity for their friends and neighbours.
Our best and brightest almost always go to the United States because at least there Americans embrace them for their talents, and unlike in Canada, won't tax the living fuck out of them once they become successful. The smartest and most entrepreneurial Canadians who do stay behind almost always leave, and the few who do stay, have to set up Caribbean tax shelters just to avoid paying 53% of their income to the government.
The entire left-wing establishment here wants Canada to become Scandinavia 2.0 and emulate Scandinavian socialism by continuing to pick away again and again at anyone rich by jacking their tax rates. The governments here are almost all controlled by left-wing fanatics who are blocking every meaningful resource investment, paying government office assistants $100,000+ with gold plated benefits to fuck around on Facebook, and stripping out jobs left and right. The only reason this exodus of investment and jobs hasn't led to the collapse already is that in terms of household leverage, we have more household debt per capita than any developed country out there. We endlessly borrow against our inflated house values just to keep our smugness and anti-business practices going, but the whole thing is a house of fucking cards.
Do it, move to Canada. It's pretty chill here plus you can still get most of the guns you can in the states(lots of permits required) if you are into that.
Gabriel Reyes
Please, move. Make sure to renounce your US citizenship as well, try not to come back.
Brody Wilson
Jews control canada so same shit different country.
John Brown
Interesting. I appreciate the insight. Although in America we hear the opposite. We hear that unlike America, Canada actually prioritizes skilled workers and that American scientists and engineers are leaving in droves for Canada because they are treated better and valued. After all Canada seems much more interested in investing in alternative sources of energy
Not saying you're wrong. Just that in the USA we hear the opposite narrative.
Josiah Turner
AS somebody quite familiar with differences between Canada/US, I don't think you'll find Canada palatable, as most Canadians don't find Canada palatable...
>>god-tier culture of outdoorsmanship and politeness yup. 'tis true
Case in point.
Kayden Lewis
Its fucking 9bamaleaf under a American vpn
Jackson Reed
Out of curiosity...why? Why would you want to trade? So many Americans would kill to be able to live in Canada. The entire country is like a better version of the best places to live in the USA like Washington, California, Massachusetts or Pittsburgh. Outside of these areas (which still dont have healthcare or gun laws like Canada) most of the USA sucks. I feel bad for saying that but its basically true, we live in a very regressive country where many people believe that "coal will come back", are super religious, dont believe in free healthcare and are happy when the president makes rifts with our allies.
Mason Reed
Anyone who thinks that gun control actually prevents gun violence is either intellectually dishonest or an idiot.
Jason Smith
I lived in Canada for a while and I agree with everything you've said.
If there ever is a right-wing revolt in the United States I promise we will cross the border and rescue you guys. Perhaps the Anglo areas of Canada can join the United States with special rights on voting and have some reserved seats in the House of Representatives.
I wish you the best of luck.
Noah Baker
Good point. The younger seems to want to outdo his pops
Connor Brooks
>be OP >Be a faggot >Have no basis for legally moving to any other country just like every faggot liberal on Twitter that thinks drumpfy being mean allows them to apply for asylum
And next week you'll move to Australia, right?
Benjamin Ward
When the average American tried to flee here from trump they realized they needed skills and could not come for no reason (pol laughs at them)
Canadians remind Americans they have skilled immigration (we do) and pol forgets everything and gets triggered
Lmao Americans on here are Reddit or underage
Hunter Brown
Close the door on your way out, faggot. sage
Leo Adams
Amazon canada is shit. You'll be blocked from watching or using a lot of content online if it's american. Shipping takes forever. don't buy kindle books from amazon because they wont work on your device. not as much variety in grocery stores or clothing stores. country has no identity and is only proud of bringing in immigrants that cluster together in their own regions.
Camden Sanders
>free at the point of use Stopped reading there. You clearly know that it isn't free.
Jayden Hill
Is health care that bad in the states? I almost had knee surgery with a famous surgeon. It was going to cost 13K burger plus 4k more if I wanted stem cells and prp. How bad is it there?
Connor James
>when you use so much bait that nobody believes it could be bait because who would use such a huge amount of bait that it would be obvious that it's complete bait
Dominic James
No defense with taxation levels similar to USA? Weak cuck pretty boy as head of state? Replacement rates much faster than the U.S.? Reproduction rate already below 2.1?
Isaac Gutierrez
Lol kill yourself.
My buddy is a real estate agent he payed only 1000 USD while I payed 7.5k CAD.
Furthermore his commission's are much higher... And his peers are less competitive. He literally games everyday and makes bank.
I also have an engineering degree and am not able to find a job here for 4 years now. Meanwhile in the US there was an engineering job where a degree is perfered but not required.
I would definately take a few bullets to be a US citizen. You guys have no idea how good you have it.
Ryan King
But, the television told me that's racist.
Austin Thompson
100% true.
Camden Hernandez
>hen it comes to normal immigration its actually a lot more strict than us
You just have to be rich and nonwhite and you're in.
Brody Wright
I've never heard that until you said it. You probably made it up.
Henry Bailey
Getting a job here is more difficult but yeah other than that you should move here.
David Reyes
This. Probably an illegal Mexican.
Jeremiah Stewart
I prefer Canada as it's my home, but I wouldn't recommend Americans to even consider moving. Not worth the hassle at all...unless you are a die hard, doctrinaire, leftist crazy who is trying to make a point of some sort.
The USA is big enough and diverse enough that you should be able to find something there that suits you.
I'll be honest -- being an American in Canada (and I suspect many other countries) would be an excruciating pain in the ass. You would need to get in a political discussion about the American global role with every single sub-moronic person you meet...I can't imagine that would be enjoyable.
Stay home please ...we're full anyway (of shit! lol)
Brody Baker
I buy insurance through my employer for about 5% of my monthly salary and go to the doctor once a year at most. If I needed surgery or a cast or something, the first $5K would be out of pocket. But if I don't pay it, nothing happens. It doesn't affect my credit or anything.
John Scott
>You guys have no idea how good you have it. Most of us do.
Julian Fisher
We did invest in alternate sources of energy.
Ontario spent billions of dollars getting rid of our cheap and 'dirty' sources of energy all in the name of the green movement. We gave enormous contracts to producers of alternate energy and watched the inefficiency skyrocket and our power costs explode.
Those manufacturers that didn't go broke or move when Mexico became an alternative manufacturing home started bailing out en masse when the spike in power costs hit. Everyone knew this was going to happen but the politicians were so puritanical in their green ideology that they said fuck it. Ontario's manufacturing base is an emaciated shell of its former self
Doesn't seem so bad. Waiting while injured here is just dumb. A year of constant pain is really bad for you
Mason Miller
THats why I said free at the point of use. Like fire or police services or libraries
Jace Russell
Doesn't Canada have a fuck load of hydro power? I thought that was super efficient and cheap.
Charles Kelly
They just played really hard on our love of the outdoors
Jason Nelson
Are you fucking serious? You're going to tell US, THE LEAFS, what our country is like? Get the fuck out of this thread, and leave the USA too since you can't even appreciate what you have there.
Jonathan Lopez
Fire and police services and libraries don't cost nearly as much to fund. I'm sure a leaf can correct me, but I think more than half of their gross income goes to the tax man.
Easton Morgan
Fuck off we're full
Ethan Gray
If you make above $60k in certain provinces, yes. Around 70-75 cents of each tax dollar goes to healthcare.
Oliver Lopez
Oh, I forgot to mention that I have to pay twenty dollars for my yearly doctor visit and that's only if I'm sick. The 5% is for me, my wife, and my three kids, and all routine check ups for any of us are free.
Jayden Russell
I always viewed America as a few major cities with large swaths of trailer parks. Isn't America mostly trailer parks?
Christopher Gray
Tru
Tyler Lewis
Quebec does, but that's a provincial resource, so Ontario would have to buy it ...just like NY State.
Aaron Lewis
Cold weather sucks, especially when it lasts the majority of the year. It's the main reason why I don't live in Michigan anymore.
>It's horribly backed up, good luck if you have an actual problem >we're voting out that govt next year >I have an AR15 and a ton of other shit, but you're right, we never shoot each other.
The rest of the points you're not far off on. Canada is a pretty good place to live, but taxes are fairly high and you have to stay out of the containment zones, Toronto and Vancouver.
I'm not American, but it depends where you go. Just like in Canada. Most of America is technically farmland and suburbs.
Easton Collins
There are a lot of trailer parks, but I think there's more suburban single family homes than trailers. More apartments then anything else for sure.
Jayden Richardson
Than* >t. phoneposter
Juan White
*Boi* Their healthcare is as shitty as the VA, the only reason they don't have the homicides we do is they don't have as many niggers their gun laws are cycled AF, you will never own land or property there unless you have it gifted to you, it's colder than a French Hookers heart, and everybody is a gigantic pussy
Oh cool, I dunno I didn't think you had suburbs like we do here. I thought it was mostly cities and trailer parks. Maybe it's just where I've driven
Levi Powell
Yes, you should go faggotstein
Ayden Roberts
Fuck no. Enough of this neo-Manifest Destiny. Canada has to rescue itself under its own power. Our destiny must always remain separate from yours. We will travel parallel down the same river, but we will be taking our own paths.
Isaac Cook
>t's colder than a French Hookers heart, and everybody is a gigantic pussy
m8 it's a big country and a lot of it is very moderate.
Nathaniel Hernandez
You should move there, I heard their housing market is about to crash. I'd love to see an honorary leaf go fucking homeless.
Yeah, Ontario is pretty good but Quebec has the best geography for hydro.
In Ontario we shut our coal plants, stopped building nuclear, and instead opted to throw up solar panels and wind mills like crazy. We overpaid on everything and the Liberal government at the time was happy to overpay because they liked the 'green' optics. Shit was nowhere near as efficient as other sources and the prices soared.
Zachary James
Generally, any little edge we have on the 'merkins will be very grudgingly acknowledged, but the explanation is:
'NIGGERS'
And I am actually starting to believe it may be true. Having a dysfunctional population of 45 million complicates things incredibly. This is one area that I've learned about a lot since coming to Jow Forums ...there is NEVER a white side of the race story in America. The world only hears tales of woe from the black side.
Tyler Brooks
I'd prefer that. When you go to the doctor you get to see them? Like not wait 2-5 hours
Angel Jenkins
King Nigger tried doing that here, but coal is coming back since he's been gone.
Christian Thomas
because youd be a leaf your origin would not save you from the rake