Are there ANY good arguments against veganism?

I don't give a fuck about animals feelings. They’re food. We’re the apex predator.

>Worms shit
>Grass eats worm shit
>Cow eats grass
>I eat cow
>When I die worms eats me.
>Worms shit
STAHP BREAKING THE CIRCLE

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Meat fucking tastes good you jew

Yes goy, feel guilty over consumption trends when you occupy less than 10% of global population!

Your asshole doesn’t evolve faster than your teeth OP.
Quit being a faggot and eat a still-beating deer heart!

Pork is disgusting.

eat grass

Only an appeal to nature, Egoism, or Nihilism.

>tfw only buy from the farmers market and occassionally go to see my food grazing freely on the hills

>The mistreatment of animals IS nigger tier and whites are some of the worst offenders and certainly some of the most sadistic.
Yeah it is.

Just don't support factory farming then you faggot. Meat is good. Stop being a jew faggot.

Sure. You'll be weaker and less aesthetic. You'll only be able to fuck stinky, hairy vegan girls with dreadlocks

I'm with you fellow burger but I am well aware that we are the minority. Flesh eaters disgust me but I tolerate them like the guy walking by with bad BO at the gym. It's best not to reason with imbeciles as you'll end up spinning your wheels for eternity. Just enjoy the disproportionately high amount of veggie women that you'll meet.

I honestly have no problem with pescatarians or hunters but most people don’t hunt their own meat

Yes.
You are a human.
Humans eat meat and vegetables.
T.Chef.

Vegetables are full of subtitle toxins. Most human illness is caused by vegetables.

>your ancestors killed animals to survive
>2018 and you're so bitchmade your basic survival instincts of dissociating from food are almost nonexistant

A good argument is that not everyone is a fkn bitch

>vegan noguns ducks will never experience this
SAD

this thread will reach bump limit, just like any other meat eater bait thread. they always get triggered so easily, it's very funny.

I'm not vegan but no, there is no good arguments against veganism. Only thing is maybe being deficient in vitamins and minerals but you an just take supplements for that.

echochamber

>meme flag
>meme comment

Pain makes the taste better

>tfw broccoli pound for pound has more brotein in it than steak, you're just too much of a faggot to eat protein that will actually aid your body and brain

kys muzzie

That why China has the best dog meat in the world, and Hillary Clinton loves kiddies lovers.

Oh shit, I forgot the link.
youtu.be/VSFnmM12LOQ

Ikr we even bbq ourselves the lucky bastard worms

Well considering you need a hunting license, and to draw for tags... and then wait until the game is in season on top of following state restrictions as well as being limited on what and where you can hunt... it isn't surprising. Varmint hunting is a good option depending on location but it definitely isn't a lifestyle promoted by state or government entities... despite actually improving the environment. But muh farmers

vegan gains pls

Everyone going to a plant-based diet would cause more environmental damage than the status quo. You would have to clear out a LOT more land, thereby destroying animal habitats.

So will shoving this crystal up my asshole balance out my negative toxin vibes brah

>IT WAS HER TURN!!!!

Bitch, for every animal you DON'T eat I'm going to eat THREE.

Get fucked, sissy lib faggot.

I want to eat meat you little nigger.

This is wrong, supplements have proven to not be as effective as actual food containing the same vitamins. Try not restricting yourself to globalist diets than only exist because of world trade

Gays

>Muzzie
>eating pork

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What if I want to eat you?

Yeah now go ahead and eat a pound of broccoli. Efficiency is key here, Schlomo.

scared animals don't gain fat its better to keep them calm kys

That would make you gay.

well i enjoy both steak and broccoli and i get a much wider variety of types of proteins, vitamins, and minerals i could only get from those certain foods individually

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How's this for an argument against veganism:
Vegan claim
>The amount of land currently used to grow X amount of livestock could be used to grow X*Y amount of crops!
Completely ignores that it is already more profitable to grow crops than to rear livestock: The land currently used to rear livestock is overwhelmingly unsuitable for growing crops. Climate, topography, inclination, soil quality, sunlight hours (north/south facing land).
There are DOZENS of factors which can make land unsuitable for growing crops for human consumption, profitably or with subsidy.
BUT
Much of this land which can't be used to grow crops CAN be used for pasture to rear livestock. Grass will grow literally fucking anywhere. We can't eat grass. Livestock can. We eat the livestock.

I guess you, your wife's son, and 4 or 5 billion other liberals, skitshins, faggot degenerates and dirty commies will have to die so I can eat as much beef as I want.

A pound of broccoli is less than 13 grams of protein

what is an amino acid profile

Yea, they use a shit ton of slave labor to harvest all your food. There are bad parts of both sides.

You are confusing meat consumption with the meat industry(idiot)

Lectins, nigger. Don't eat any plants or veggies raw, especially ones high in protein.

While this is true, stress is bad for the meat, which is why japanese KOBE is so expensive, but in the US its simply not worth the costs doing to take proper care of animal. So they do get shit conditions to live in and of course we american's gladly accept shittier standards.

Because not everyone likes getting fucked in the ass, commiefaggot.

Vegans dont eat naturally grown figs becuase there is dead wasps in it.
In a vegan majority society they would put people to death for eating naturally grown figs.

But they have no problem exterminating cockroaches when it gets too inconvenient for them...

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>>tfw broccoli pound for pound has more brotein in it than steak
>1lb broccoli: 13g protein
>1lb steak: 102g protein

If you mean CALORIE for CALORIE broccoli has more protein than steak, then you're correct.
A 10z steak is about 750 calories and about 70g of protein. To get the same number of calories from broccoli (and therefore more protein), you would have to eat 4.3 POUNDS OF BROCCOLI.

I forgot to add
A FUCKING LEAF

Animals are not totally mindless but it's creepy how much of a pedestal Americans (or is it just white people?) put them on. The best diet is the one where all your nutritional needs are met without having to resort to added vitamin blends in food or taking supplements. Veganism does not meet that benchmark therefore it's obviously unnatural and unhealthy for human beings. You must consume some kind of animal product (eggs/dairy/meat) or take a lab source supplement.

Veganism is honestly crazy. Many things about what people typically eat is also strange and bad for you. The question you really want to ask is: what do I need nutritionally? And do I value having a compassionate diet?

I'm pretty sure that while being able to process milk/dairy is one hell of a way to prove your hu-whiteness, we're not really supposed to consume dairy. All kinds of sugary food, high fructose corn syrup, grains, cereals, pastas, breads, etc are also
>into the trash it goes
tier.

An adult could consume no meat and no dairy while eating 4 eggs/day. That would be enough to cover your B12 needs. It is possible to have a compassionate diet that is kind to yourself and to animals. If you select pasture raised, organic eggs the only ethical dilemma is I think male chicks are often killed outright but perhaps not if you can get eggs from a local farm.
>2 fried eggs for breakfast
>2 hard boiled eggs in a salad later that day
There, done. Vegans go full retard. If one wants to be kind then avoid meat, dairy and leather and eat 4 eggs a day and wear wool if you like.

We are the top of this planet's food chain but that doesn't mean we're not supposed to have some kind of relationship with lower life forms. It's up to the individual if they want a relationship that has suffering or is (unnaturally?) compassionate.

Damn.

I actually agree with Joel Saladin

Here's him on Joe Rogan:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZVUoQd-P6o

Honey = slavery

According to vegans

My argument against veganism is that it's an untested diet and it's effects over time, as well as intergenerationally is completely unknown. Basically the vegans of today are the test bunnies of how living on a pure plant diet is going to pan out. The few hippies who were actually vegans in the previous generation are so few that they don't make a statistical base for any real information. Basically you're gambling your health and future on ideological reasons, which could be defensible if the ideology made sense. Which veganism doesn't even do. Also, what I've noticed by being around vegans is that they most often cheat. The few I've met who appear to actually follow the diet doesn't appear healthy to me at all.

If you're into the morality aspect of animal husbandry just become a vegetarian. At least it's a diet with some history and that we know people can survive on. But really, it's a babby tier moral dilemma. Humans are hunters, we eat meat. We've been that way for millions of years. It's not something to be ashamed of. If you want to do something constructive then help support hunting and animal husbandry where the animals are treated well. Which they mostly are in the western world except for some extreme burger examples. Those videos with animal gore porn vegans like to show you doesn't really reflect the norm at all.

tldr. fuck off and let me eat my healthy and delicious meat in peace.

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The days when we can grow tasty beef in the lab will be great. Imagine having machine make a steak in your own house on demand.

la creatura vegana

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Also, any bleeding hearts here in Jow Forums need to grow up. If Chinese animal torture videos make you feel intense, negative feelings how the fuck are you going to get through the upcoming hard times filled with violence and strife?

>b-but it's different when it's some mean old Jew! I'll be able to handle that!
No, humans don't work like that. If you can't even watch a non humanoid lifeform get tortured/killed without wincing you won't make it.
>Please note: I am not saying go out and torture Rover the neighborhood dog. But stop bullshitting yourself.

I know ill get shitted on, but maybe someone has an explanation for me here. I've gone mainly vegan for several months now (except i still eat some eggs) and i've always been a skinny faggot. Over the last several months i've put on weight for the first time in my life and even some muscle just eating plants basically. Anyone have an explanation to this? I would have figured it would be the other way around eating a ton of meat, cheese, and heavy food would make me gain some weight but it never did my whole life.

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Outside of starvation, it is virtually impossible to be protein deficient.
There are no groups in the west, whether vegan or omnivore, that are protein deficient.
Grains, beans, seeds, nuts, and even vegetables are full of protein.

Jokes on you, i eat both of them, at the same time. Omnivores, rise up

From a non Jew or Muslim perspective, why? Because they get muddy?

Eh, we don't need to be bleeding hearts when we can soon grow meat in a lab. I'm not a fan of treating animals like shit or enjoy the shit conditions they live in. I love meat to much to stop but i do think recognizing and stopping pointless animal cruelty is respectable.

In Australia most cattle is free range in paddocks so I'll eat all the steak I want cunt. Or I could go shoot our national emblems and eat them.

Enjoy your limited gainz. I find I'm healthiest when only eating higher fat/proteins and avoiding carbs from breads and grains. Otherwise I only eat fruit and veggies.

I only eat meat at an absolute necessity. I hate its foul taste so, the less the better.
Anyway, seeing the comments in this thread makes me think that:
1) either you are a psycho
2) or an edgelord
I get that people want to eat meat, but there's no point in causing pointless suffering and distress to an animal. I guess this is a crucial distinction between whites and non-whites, as you can see who's white by the way they treat animals.
Tofu contains a lot of protein (inb4 soyy); quinoa etc. Fish is a viable alternative and it is probably better for you as well.

>Omnivores, rise up
What cartel is that?

no, you fucking retard.

fag

its not that i don't believe you, but what's coming that we need to harden up for?

No, there isn't. I myself am a meat eater but I have never argued with vegans. I know they're right and I'm the one who's morally wrong.
The only reason I eat meat is because I like it but besides that, vegans are always right about every single claim they make.
Not even joking. If you hate vegans you should kys for being memed into believing that you need meat to survive. You don't. Early humans used to have a vegan diet and your body is perfectly adapted to survive only on veggies, seeds and fruits.

>never eating dairy
why live

meat tastes good

Complex carbs are making you fat, avoid them and focus on making meals with complete protein. Don't fucking eat nonfermented onions regardless of whether you are a vegan fag or a meat eater.

Most animals have more of a right to live than most people

Why don't you learn how to cook.

You can tell from human teeth that we are omnivores. We don't have teeth like cats, nor like cows, but somewhere in between. This means we should eat like a proper human and eat meat as a part of our regular diet.

Furthermore, look at our eyes, they face forward, like predator's. Herbivores have side-facing eyes, like rabbits, cows, rhinos, horses and gerbils. Predators have forward facing eyes like eagles, lions and wolves.

So, it's clear the healthiest diet is one that matches our nature. Don't feed grass to your cat nor meat to a rabbit.

Vegans are also highly annoying and despicable because as visitors to your house they make you prepare two different meals. Their desire to be separate makes the communal action of a shared meal to be one of a passive-aggressive nature. "I'm not part of your group because I refuse to engage in a shared meal with you." That's their "fuck-you" statement to the White community they are stepping outside of.

OP can't live without meat in his mouth

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Save food,eat pussy, problem solved

Imagine caring so little for the environment that ypu openly advocate for the massive environmental impacts caused by Kale and onions. Not to mention ripping the life out of gaias womb to fill your bellies. Vile, disgusting, cruel!

Gorillas are vegetarian and have forward facing eyes. Not eating meat but eating seafood is actually more healthy

You do realize that vegetables are alive too so whats your point?

IMO, people today are very soft to the point of fault. If the increasing racial tensions don't set off a powder keg then water shortages will. I can't imagine life (for all it's current comfyness) is going to become easier. With such a high population globally, competition is only going to get stiffer. I feel amused when the lastest news story comes out about some person who has decided to torture an animal for fun and the comments are always filled with people frothing at the mouth with rage, wanting to actually commit violence against the person in the news story. So many of them are undoubtedly meat eaters and will continue to eat meat despite the fact that a vegetarian diet is easy to live off of. It's a form of insanity to be so short sighted. At least here in America, it feels like most are just waiting to off load some anger in a socially acceptable, righteous way. People seem high strung a lot, I'm sure the SSRI's don't help.

Not to be forced upon oneself. Hang it up sometimes when needed.

That's a great way to get parasites.

It's ok to eat meat if the animals have had a 'good life', got to reproduce and was killed quickly. That life might be better than the one in the wild and many farm animals today could probably not survive in the wild.

However factory farms today is nothing like that.

give me fake meat that tastes better than real meat and I'll become a vegan.

Thanks man, much appreciated!