It's a tough red pill to swallow, but it's important. Women are just as important as men, if not more important, for any cultural movement.
"Stark argues that the rise of Christianity in the Roman Empire owed a great deal to demography. He asks how a tiny despised band of forty Christians in AD 30, the ‘Jesus movement’, could become a 6-million-strong subculture by AD 300. Conversion was certainly important, but demographic forces were arguably more vital. Christianity’s family-centred ethos sharply contrasted with the more macho, promiscuous ethos of pagan Hellenism. This had two effects. The first was to boost the Christian birth rate above that of the pagans, the second to attract a disproportionate number of female converts. Women’s role in socialising the next generation means that a female-dominated sex ratio leads to a disproportionate number of Christian children. In addition, Christians cared for their sick during plagues, dramatically reducing mortality. Higher fertility, lower mortality and a female skew in the childbearing age ranges endowed Christians with a significant demographic advantage over pagans. Even a small edge can rapidly increase a group’s share of the population over several generations. This happens through compounding, as more children beget more mothers, and so on in exponential fashion. Over several centuries, this has impressive social consequences. A Mormon-like rate of increase of 40 percent per decade, sustained over the period AD 30–300, is all that was needed to create 6 million Christians from forty original converts. In the year 312, the Emperor Constantine adopted Christianity as the official religion of the Roman Empire. This political act prompted a massive expansion of Christianity, but it is unlikely that Christianity would have been adopted if it had remained the creed of a tiny band."
Just by looking at this photo I can tell you they are Mormon
Colton Johnson
Wrong, they are Baptists. Interestingly enough though, this passage is from a section in the book about Mormonism.
Benjamin Rivera
get out newfag. This is true. Old Jow Forums knew this because we understand propaganda. Women don't cause drama in the movement, spergy mens reaction to the women cause the drama. Why don't we just be quiet and let the girls repeat our talking points? It's a win/win and anyone who says otherwise is JIDF
young women these days are not interested in being decent or raising a family, they only start pretending to be that way after their 30s hoping to catch a simp that will pay for the rest of her life.
Oliver Sanders
You can also tell because the most serious Mormons tend to avoid facial hair.
Noah Taylor
Yikes, I’m tired of people thinking they know anything about Mormons. ‘Secret handhake’ What meme even is this
Tyler Lee
I love you.
Jordan Fisher
Bush and other whites did 911. Cia controls isis. Arabs didn’t want to come to your countries.
Yeah but the nationalist/conservative types will actually reproduce tho.
Anthony Hall
He's just referring to the fact that Mormons have ceremonies in the temple that they keep secret, and he thinks everything should be out in the open.
Ethan Parker
>tough red pill to swallow No, it’s not tough, it’s not even a red pill that would imply that learning it involves waking up from some mainstream illusion. But everyone already loves women.
Why should we open up our ceremonies to outsiders who taint everything they touch. Go complain to the pope about the tens of thousands of books he has stored away in the Vatican archives that haven’t been touched by humans in years, & are original copies of texts that no longer exist anywhere else
What matters isn't what the majority of women are interested in. The majority of women at the time I referenced weren't converting to Christianity. What matters is fertility differences between the normal population and the based population, and retention rates. Your average woman's views don't matter, only whether at least some women share your views matters.
Jayden Ramirez
I agree. A pretty face can gather betas and make ideas palatable to them. Alphas with minds of their own will come by themselves, be inspired by the work of the truly great minds, or consciously sell out. Women will come when the culture has shifted and it's the cool thing to do, with a handful of exceptions.
Xavier Green
You recruit the few woman who aren't thots and who actually want to have 5-6 children, not the ones who are thots and might produce one unhealthy child at the age of 34 who will become a pansexual tranny and neck themself at the age of 25. The former will matter in the future, the latter will not. Healthy women who want big healthy families are attracted to ideas supportive of that, diseased modern women who aren't are not. It just works.
Noah Taylor
I'm not saying I agree, I'm just explaining what he meant. Also, that guy hates the Pope, BTW.
Daniel Walker
>that would imply that learning it involves waking up from some mainstream illusion
Fair enough, but you do have to wake up from the MGTOW illusion and the "we don't need any women to agree with us" illusion found on Jow Forums.
Henry Fisher
I have NEVER met a 20-25 year old attractive woman who didn't spend her weekends partying with her girlfriends.
Parker Brooks
Well I’m just saying they’re ceremonies for a reason. If they were open to the public then what’s even the point. I’ve seen a lot of ceremonies conducted by the LDS Church. Everything from baptisms to weddings & even exorcisms. It’s all professional & im just tired of seeing these interns memes filled with lies about the church. There’s a reason why Utah has the lowest rate of homeless people sleeping on the streets. When Katrina struck, the LDS Church rolled in with trucks & supplies. When Puerto Rico was struck, the LDS Church was there before the government. The LDS Church is literally prepared for the Balkanization of the U.S. They keep stockpiles of ammunition & food hidden away in mountains across Utah & Arizona that are guarded 24/7. In the result of some sort of invasion. We’ve been betrayed by the government once & we expect to again. I unironically hold more allegiance to the LDS Church than this country.
Andrew Murphy
Then you need to start searching, or start converting. I've met a girl who was probably much farther right than you are, so don't give me this, "there are no right wing women" bullshit.
Brayden Turner
>White knight electionfag tries to pretend he's old/pol/
I know a couple of girls who have never done that, and who will likely have 2-3 kids. They're very rare, and the ones that will have more than 3 kids are even rarer, but they do exist. And that's where the worthwhile stock of Europeans in the future is going to come from.
Luke Foster
Let's just say that she was very favorable towards a certain German political movement from the 20th century.
Tyler Lee
Step 1: Male philosophers formulate an ideology. Step 2: Male leaders turn the ideology into a movement. Step 3: Entrepreneurial or pioneering men join the movement and give it a foundation. Step 4: Women join the already established movement because it's on the way up rather than their current ideology which is on the way down. Step 5: Charismatic men (attracted by poon) create talking points and sell the movement to the mainstream. Step 6: Women parrot talking points created by more intelligent men, but get more traction because tits. Step 7: Normies join up seeing the mix of men and women as legitimacy and a good sign that the movement has a future. Step 8: ShoeOnHead opens a Patreon account.
>university of misogyny This is literally what I'm trying to correct.
Xavier Ross
Gives me hope, user.
Grayson Scott
There is a difference between a woman that works for her empire, nurture it and make it grow and a “woman” that only cares about her fee fees and her safe space. A female voice calms while a mans voice rally, together they build empires.
Chase Watson
Obviously. Good luck with your Sisyphean task of tone policing Jow Forums.
> start converting you ever heard of cant make a wife out of a slut?
Also the one you met is probably not attractive or simply past 26-27 which is when they start getting desperate
Attractive girls are outgoing and 99.999% they don't have to be loyal to any cause or philosophy as they are living life on easy mode.
In the past they had to find a husband as it would ensure their survival, these days the government makes sure they are never in danger.
Lucas Collins
Women should not be involved in politics at all. They are just parrots. >donate $500 to my patreon and I’ll shake your hand
Noah Wilson
>he fell for the shill women hate/slide threads user i...
Connor Carter
Thank you. I want people who take this seriously to have a change of attitude, but I really don't care what the /b/ tier losers do.
Nolan Campbell
they were probably raised in a sheltered environment.
Any kind of contact with urban women will make them sluts in no time.
Hudson Richardson
>ShoeOnHead kek
Thomas Myers
Nobody who actually does take this stuff seriously is going to be persuaded by your babby gynocentrism though. But like I said, I wish you luck. Your struggle will be fun to watch.
Anthony Campbell
lol here are the spergy men. these women are so in their heads they constantly misrepresent all arguments that women spreading Jow Forums propaganda is a good thing and frame it as "white knighting" They are such faggots they sit angry at their computers and have to tell ANONYMOUS STRANGERS that they are mad that OTHER STRANGERS might give a woman a youtube view. Something I must ask the people who need to shit up threads bitching about tradthots constantly. What the fuck are you trying to achieve? You can't kick somebody off youtube? You cannot reach through a computer screen and force betas not to watch them. All they're doing is spreading more Jow Forums propaganda on the internet. (((Who))) would want that to stop? The worst thing the Jews did is turn men and women against each other. You incels need to get over issues it's really sad to watch.
One of them grew up in the country, the other didn't. Some women just don't want to be sluts user, they meet a guy when they're young and stay together long term. Might end in divorce, who knows, but it's the healthy women who raise big, strong families that are producing the future stock of Europeans, not the unhealthy ones who have few children that are raised in the diseased climate of modernity. Nature punishes degeneracy by culling it, God's good like that.
Samuel Ortiz
>Mormons have that very distinct Mormon look about them It’s the high concentration of Anglo genes in Utah.
Christopher Evans
you sound like a faggot.
these thots are simply attention whores. They just repeat what other men say for their own personal benefit (youtube and patreon money)
Carter Reyes
> (OP) >Just by looking at this photo I can tell you they are Mormon
Kek. Fail. And you've immediately identified your kike JIDF self for not recognizing Pastor Anderson
Jeremiah Wright
How is that bad? More people are exposed to right wing ideas in the process. They get attention/money, our ideas also get attention. What is your fucking problem, jew?
Jackson Price
The one I met was very attractive, and 20 years old. You're missing the point: don't worry about the average woman, worry about the atypical women.
As far as converting, I haven't had any success personally, but there is some research done on the matter.
There are a few people who would be able to reciprocate the Mormon handshakes. You can find them in your local Masonic lodge.
Tyler Campbell
>They just repeat what other men say GOOD! If they had original ideas you would be posting about how we cannot have women """leading"""" Nobody leads anything its an ocean of talking heads and if normies see that the only people taking about this seem to be angry men they will turn 360 degrees and walk away.
Landon Long
Show me your tokens
Ayden Moore
These are the stats for a fundamentalist (polygamist) LDS town in Utah.
I'm not saying there aren't good women out there, they probably exist in small towns, the kind raised with traditional values.
You have to be careful though when they start getting in touch with the modern woman, that's when they are poisoned.
You see it all the time in those amish communities.
Jose Walker
>You see it all the time in those amish communities.
The Amish have very high retention rates, so I find your claim dubious.
David Cox
Yeah shit yeah, the modern world infects near all of us. It's just fortunate that nature has ways of dealing with it over the long term. We're just long overdue for a massive purge.
Nicholas Evans
Well that’s what happens when the entire country condemns your religion, kills your people & drives you west. Mormons founded Salt Lake City & built Utah from the ground up. While the rest of the US got GERMAN’D, Utah stayed anglo
I always assumed it was because of how many people they converted in England who then sailed to the US, but I could be wrong.
Carter Walker
I kind of get your point of view.
The problem though is that the majority don't seem to be loyal to any cause. Again, they do it for the money and attention which means that, the moment that it stops being useful for them, they'll change their opinion letting down thousands of their followers maybe even making people swing to the other side out of frustration.
Women follow strong men, they are not loyal to any cause.
Ayden Scott
When Mormonism was founded it was viewed as heretical. States made it legal to kill Mormons, such as Louisiana
They killed so many Mormons that they forgot the law was even in existence, and didn’t get rid of it until the 1970s. The Mormons clashed many times with the tocsrment (ironic because people were supposed to be allowed to practice whatever religion they wanted to) and bands of vigilantes (who were organized by the goverment)
So many Mormon men died. That’s why polygamy became a thing. A lot of Mormon women were left without husbands, and kids without fathers. So they made it so that men can have multiple wives. It strengthened the community. After the Mormons settled down & weren’t constantly being killed, they abolished polygamy because it wasn’t necessary anymore
I'm not talking about people on youtube, user. I'm talking about the thousands of anonymous redpilled women who can form the backbone of a demographic movement. We need to start thinking demographically rather than merely politically.
Jaxson Scott
>women are important If literally all the women on the planet died, we would instantly solve world poverty and hunger. There would also be no need for feminism, so it would collapse, and with it the socialist agenda. Without the communists, we would be free to create a fascist super-state, execute the retards, and devote the resources that we would have spent helping the poor/hungry/women/retards to developing immortality, and we'll literally do it before all of mankind dies out. Once that happens, we can develop anything we want, including robot waifus.
We will then proceed to eternally explore the stores while continuously banging our waifus, and, freed from the scourge of women, we will truly be as happy as a man can be on earth.
>being this delusional First off, did you read the OP?
Lincoln Ortiz
shut up white knight faggot
Jack Parker
Point out one thing I've said that makes me a white knight.
Nicholas Young
>thinking cutting half the world's population wouldn't solve 99% of our problems >doubting the power of non-retards when their species' survival is put to grinder >doubting the buffer sex Nice try, kike nigger. Women are literally irrelevant. Not to mention, if they're out of the picture, they DEFINITELY won't be relevant to cultural movements.
>Women follow strong men, they are not loyal to any cause. Again, why is this an issue at all? The perceived damage that may cause is nothing compared to the damage people like you are causing by driving females from the far right. What do you hope to achieve? All these threads calling trathots a "problem" but never mentioning that there is no possible solution. Flame and ban women from the internet because some seem disloyal and may change their minds? What the fuck kind of logic is that? None of the people who respond to lauren southern threads to remind people she is a coalburner for the millionth time are "strong men" All the sperging out just because there are girls in the clubhouse is beyond pathetic.
Oliver Martinez
It's all we need. (I couldn't find the original article, so I'm posting a duplicate).
I don't know how you can be any bigger of a faggot than edgeposting about how great a world with no women would be. You are the biggest faggot on Jow Forums. That's saying a lot.
>Christianity’s family-centred ethos sharply contrasted with the more macho, promiscuous ethos of pagan Hellenism
Sounds like you don’t know anything about Roman morals and family values.
Nicholas Parker
The problem is that just because a woman calls herself a Christian doesn't mean she's a worthwhile woman. Gender relations aren't bad because random men on the internet are mean, they're bad because most women are no longer trustworthy. Fix THAT, and you'll fix gender relations. Ignore it, and things will continue to get worse.
Henry Carter
They're so rare and outnumbered by sluts s d empowered female types. Heck I come from a traditional catholic family and several of my relatives married Muslim women because they couldn't find a trad girl who weren't former turbosluts. Truly trad white women also have insane standards since they know they're diamonds in an island full of shit. Most of my sisters who were raised right a re now childless degenerates. There's an incredible short supply of trad women in relation to trad men.
Michael Hernandez
Yes, I'm sure a thousand women will save the white western world from doom. Will they be wearing Supergirl costumes when doing so? I sure hope they're the ones with the skirt.
Daniel King
>Fix THAT, and you'll fix gender relations. This is exactly the problem, people waiting for someone else to come along and find the solution. This thread is for people who want to be the solution, not wait for it.
Isaiah Ramirez
Sounds like I'm not the one who wrote this. This is from a book.
Noah Diaz
>the damage people like you are causing by driving females from the far right. These strong independent women who don't need no incels are being driven from the far right because of anonymous posts on a Mongolian sheep sheering forum? They sound very committed. Just the type of front line soldiers any movement should hope for.
Jordan Robinson
All I'm seeing ITT is people saying that you should find a unicorn, but you don't address the issues surrounding that; mainly the fact that said unicorn could just be a really good liar.
Isaac Cooper
white women helped elect trump they BTFOd everybody else they have all my respect
Aiden Ward
Again, you are missing the point. The relative number of men/women doesn't matter, the only thing that matters is the number of child-bearing couples. And the dedication of those couples matters way, way more than how many there are.
Dominic Wood
>being this new
Lucas Peterson
You still haven't read the article, so I have no need to respond to your comments.
Adrian Hall
Why are you so concerned with your individual well-being that you are paranoid with the idea of meeting a liar? You need to reject your individualist values and embrace the transcendent.
Jordan Hughes
Yet you did anyway. I too sometimes talk out of both sides of my mouth.
Nice trips, but now you just sound like a cuck. I don't take advice from cucks.
Lincoln Gray
>embracing collective action makes you a cuck Whew lad
Joshua King
This person is 9 years old just stop responding.
Elijah Scott
Ignoring the shit behavior of individuals to the long-term detriment of the collective makes you a cuck. A woman that can't be honest about her past makes for a shit mother and can't be trusted.
Samuel Diaz
>These strong independent women who don't need no incels Nice strawmanning.
>They sound very committed. You really don't sound committed yourself, but if you were, you should try and get other people to be committed to, including women.
Nathaniel Long
you can redpoll someone on islam and immigration by sending them that entire paragraph
William Diaz
pill.
Josiah Martin
The joke is on you, my effeminate friend. I realize women are property, not people.
