CANNABIS REFERENDUM IN THE UK

CANNABIS REFERENDUM IN THE UK.
The government makes drugs illegal because it thinks that way people won't use them. People do use them regardless, just less safe drugs bought from criminals. ~£1bn a year is wasted trying to make people stop. Same as prohibition, same as the opiate death epidemic in the U.S, the law is the most dangerous thing about drugs. It forces them to be unsafe and costs the public a fortune. Here's where your money goes...
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In the UK, the govt repeatedly claims medical cannabis has no therapeutic value, but at the same time the drug minister Victoria Atkins, grows 45 acres to sell abroad where apparently it has huge therapeutic value.
bbc.com/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-44109060
Children are dying in pain, not allowed to have the prescriptions written by their doctors.
independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/alfie-dingley-home-office-medical-cannabis-denies-seizures-netherlands-a8216596.html
Here's another one, his mother told police she was going to smuggle a prescription into the UK last week. It was seized and she now faces 14 years. As of this morning it's reported that the child is dying.
bbc.com/news/uk-44504142
The only winners here are the increasingly rich politicians. Everyone is being cucked. Do what even members of Parliament are standing up and saying. Get high, challenge the police to arrest you for the "barbaric stupidity" of the war on drugs. We're being lied to, conned, and dying in pain isn't enough for politicians to give a fucking inch.
youtube.com/watch?v=RJ0bwDe8o2M
Fucking put these cunts in their place once and for all. End this.
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/214030

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independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/cannabis-legal-uk-worlds-largest-producer-marijuana-weed-un-body-findings-a8243921.html
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/214030
youtube.com/watch?v=ZAOXULNtvEg
clear-uk.org/victoria-atkins-mp-the-uk-drugs-minister-opposes-drugs-regulation-while-her-husband-grows-45-acres-of-cannabis-under-government-licence/
bbc.com/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-44109060
bbc.com/news/uk-44504142
ukcsc.co.uk/know-your-smoke-grit-spray-and-flush/
twitter.com/GeorgeFreemanMP/status/1007927433771782144
theguardian.com/society/2018/jun/16/billy-caldwells-mother-hopeful-of-cannabis-medicine-licence
youtube.com/watch?v=jc47fMU8sf8
edition.cnn.com/2012/12/06/opinion/branson-end-war-on-drugs/index.html
youtube.com/watch?v=wJUXLqNHCaI
cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/
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In the meantime, Germany fully legalized medical mj for around 60 symptoms a year ago. Patients can get up to 100g per month FOR FREE because their healthcare insurance is forced to pay for it.

>In the UK, the govt repeatedly claims medical cannabis has no therapeutic value, but at the same time the drug minister Victoria Atkins, grows 45 acres to sell abroad where apparently it has huge therapeutic value.


Do as they say not as they do, its the same old story really.

Cannabis users need to face the death penalty. No mercy for druggie scum.

well thats settled im moving to ze fatherland , oh my bad back*cough *cough

I think all drugs should be legalised however not advertised or promoted. I think their should be dedicated shops for certain times of drugs i.e Cannabis, Psychedelics etc and you should not be able to buy them online because it would make people lazy. In fact, this should apply to alcohol too and we should encourage pub culture instead of buying tins of Fosters next to a pair of chocolate from your pikey local Asda and then shortly after drink to forget on your own. At a pub you are in a safe environment protected by the bartender and locals.

If you just do this it will get rid of all nigger crime pretty much

UK is more likely to legalize sharia law then weed

that would be good if people could actually afford to drink at a pub nowadays

DUDE

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>At a pub you are in a safe environment protected by the bartender and locals.

Until the obligatory fight breaks out, I prefer to drink alone Tbh.

Exactly, that is what I am trying to say. There is more tax for pubs than supermarket alcohol products. Pubs shouldn't be taxed really as it is taxing paganism tradition.

You wont be involved in a fight if you keep your head down and know how to act socially. Most violence is between people they already know.

OI, LOOK AT US GOYIM, FREE POT LADS

WHOS THIS TOMMY BLOKE YEAH? SOUNDS LIKE A WANKAH

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>smoking marijuana

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This is true but watching cretins beat the hell out of each other ruins my night out.
also a single pint is like £3.50?
I've not been to a pub in about 3 years,the pub scene is from another age.

>govt says no medical value

Meanwhile
independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/cannabis-legal-uk-worlds-largest-producer-marijuana-weed-un-body-findings-a8243921.html

Fucking hypocrites.

At my local there's hardly ever is a fight but when there is I just walk to my next local. Also £3.50 although expensive can be solved if the government realise that they should be taxing chavs buying WKD at Tesco instead of the hardworking man. Not that any party other than UKIP care about this

>petition.parliament.uk/petitions/214030
I am an Introvert and an adult, I don't need to be babysat while I drink

this however is a valid point, but few pubs apart from remote countryside pubs are anywhere close to this anymore

my local was torn down and turned into retirement flats, the other pubs left are a mile and a half walk in either direction or the local chavaspoons.

politically who really cares about the hardworking English man? we are objects of contempt to them.

I know that what I said was anti liberty but this is just a example, when I speak to mostly middle class people they all seem to use wine as a proxy to get fuck faced and just down 3 bottles. They are not in it for the taste and pleasure but rather they want to forget how fucked they are. I am probably wrong but that is the way I see it. Most people are retards and don't know how to solve their issues.

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Nige does

In my area I am very lucky to have a handful of great pubs within walking distance and it is sad to see this is becoming a very rare thing.

i rather not smell that shit everywhere i fucking go since Im kinda in a student city

You will anyway, nothing is going to change unless they commercialise the fuck out of it which they might well do.

It's worse than you think. The drug minister no less, Victoria Atkins, says it has no medicinal value. She is married to a dude who grows 45 acres. She's personally profiting. The Prime Minister’s husband, Philip May, is a Relationship Manager at Capital Group, who through Mentor Capital, are the single largest shareholder in GW Pharmaceuticals, with a holding worth hundreds of millions. These people want cannabis to be illegal, at a cost of £1bn to you, because it makes a few million for them.
clear-uk.org/victoria-atkins-mp-the-uk-drugs-minister-opposes-drugs-regulation-while-her-husband-grows-45-acres-of-cannabis-under-government-licence/
bbc.com/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-44109060

one near me closed down and then turned into a kebab shop

Nige cares about pubs, sad he left UKIP

You’re lucky you even have pubs. In most Muslim countries alcohol is illegal.

ok

>Here's another one, his mother told police she was going to smuggle a prescription into the UK last week. It was seized and she now faces 14 years. As of this morning it's reported that the child is dying.
>bbc.com/news/uk-44504142
Holy shit... literally within the last minute the BBC has updated this. The kid has been given his oil. I guess cannabis just got legalised
>According to MP Órfhlaith Begley, the Home Office has now released the oil.
>Sinn Féin MP for West Tyrone Órfhlaith Begley has tweeted that she received official confirmation from the UK Home Office that Billy will receive his medicine back.

Eid mubarek brother

one here is from circa 17th century, its been closed now about two years, they wanted to redevelop into even more retirement flats, but as it is grade II listed they aren't allowed to.

so it sits there all closed up and slowly declining and rotting away, I can imagine at some point it will have an 'accidental' fire visited on it. Then the property developers will get their wishes met.

what killed pub culture off? some say smoking ban, others its too expensive?
I used to back in the 90's go out to a pub 2-3 evenings a week on average.

I think what killed it is a mix between tax and also the smoking ban.

It's way way more expensive in pubs. A pint of 5%, about 30ml of ethanol, is around £4. Ten feet away in the corner shop you can get 38ml of ethanol in the form of 8% trampcider for 89p. Plus the smoking ban is shit, people are less sociable and there's no wifi in pubs. Amsterdam coffee shops will explode in popularity in the UK one day though. That should be awesome. In Brighton there are already businesses openly selling, and people are putting up fake signs like this one.
Nixon has cost us an absolute fortune, done untold damage, and his retarded, ignorant, catastrophe of a tantrum needs to end once and for all. Drugs won the war on drugs.

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I think most western countries will legalize marijuana within 20 years. The stigma just isn't there anymore except in extremely contrarian online communities like this one.

It got so mad, fancy a ciggy? take your pint to go outside for a smoke.
there is a bouncer on the door "sorry mate no drinks outside when smoking."

Any pub with a bouncer was a pub I'd always avoid, but then they all started to get them.

So I have to leave my drink to go outside, leaving it open to being stolen,taken away by staff, etc.?
"Dats the rules mate."

ok

I absolutely hate cannabis users but completely support total legalisation (of all psychoactive substances) simply because the alternative hands money to criminal scum.

Nobody thinks there's any good reason to keep it illegal. People continue to use regardless, so if there's no safe market available, the only effect of illegality is to provide an extremely expensive way of making drugs more dangerous. When booze was outlawed in the U.S, illegal manafacturers stopped removing poisonous ethanol from their booze, so the law killed people. They drank anyway. Plus only the strongest liquors were available because they're so much easier to smuggle. Same shit is happening with opioids, if you want an opioid you buy elephant tranquilisers like carfentanyl, because that's what's most profitable to dealers. Massively more die than would be the case if they had knew what they were taking. The law on drugs is absolutely lethal and benefits absolutely nobody except the MPs and billionaires mentioned in this thread.

>he law on drugs is absolutely lethal and benefits absolutely nobody except the MPs and billionaires

also the biker gangs and other criminal groups who make billions every year from sales.

JUST

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Oh and criminals, yeah. The exact opposite of what the govt intended. Paul Flynn MP reported that in his constituency not only did drug laws not reduce drug use, but that increase of formerly 'legal highs' went up 300% as a direct result of being made illegal. These jokers are making the UK a laughing stock.

They should legalize Meth.

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Yes, they should, because that way it could be regulated. At the moment it could contain anything. People will use it regardless.

Legalize it, smoke it, have fun... just stop trying to convince me to smoke, it doesn't agree with me & there will be more for you.

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This is exactly my thoughts. Read my post far above, sorry to be patronising

A few years back now weed was being laced with glass beads, sugar and stuff.
ukcsc.co.uk/know-your-smoke-grit-spray-and-flush/

keeping it illegal is more important than users overall health.

That, and unregulated THC levels relative to the CBD levels, increase risk of psychosis. Those in favour of legalisation want to impose a mandatory minimum of 4% CBD in weed Proffessor D Nutt, former chief drugs advisor to the govt, said that 1 in 5000 people will experience cannabis related psychosis, but that if the weed was bought from a source who could be held accountable, cases of psychosis would reduce dramatically if not disappear completely. It's the illegality which is dangerous. There are countless examples of this. It costs you personally, money from your retirement fund to pay this 1 billion a year to keep it illegal and keep it dangerous.

kek

twitter.com/GeorgeFreemanMP/status/1007927433771782144
>We need to change the law. Treating #CannabisMedicine oils for epilepsy like recreational street cannabis is criminalising patients and fuelling a dangerous black market.

theguardian.com/society/2018/jun/16/billy-caldwells-mother-hopeful-of-cannabis-medicine-licence
>The decision to allow Billy to be prescribed the treatment, is the first time that cannabis oil containing THC, the psychoactive component, has been prescribed in the UK since it was made illegal in 1971.

It's happening at fucking last. Literally while this thread was up its clear that it has moved from schedule 1 to schedule 2. The floodgates are open.
Poor Vicky, how will she cope trying to sell those 45 acres now?

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Never understood why people glorify THC so much. The strains with really high THC levels only give me an unpleasant brain buzz in the best case and crazy paranoia in the worst case. A healthy mix of THC and CBD is makes you comfy while fucking you up at the same time.

I like THC. I like the racing thoughts and the sudden interest in documentaries about space. The stuff I want won't be available on a regulated market, but that's fair enough because for some it does cause psychosis. At least now there's a healthy option, whereas previously all we had was the illegal market, in which you just buy whatever random lump of matter your dealer happens to hand you.

By any chance is it bristol? You can literally get weed by thinking about it here.

You presumably already do. And will now continue to, but it won't cost you a billion pounds a year.

I stopped smoking weed because all I can get around where I live is stiff that's like 15-20% thc with fuck all cbd.

The best weed I ever had was a balanced hybrid, from a friend. Never had it again.

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Fucking thanks you ignorant old cunt.
edition.cnn.com/2012/12/06/opinion/branson-end-war-on-drugs/index.html
>War on drugs a trillion-dollar failure
>In 1925, H. L. Mencken wrote an impassioned plea: "Prohibition has not only failed in its promises but actually created additional serious and disturbing social problems throughout society. There is not less drunkenness in the Republic but more. There is not less crime, but more. ... The cost of government is not smaller, but vastly greater. Respect for law has not increased, but diminished."
That's a TRILLION dollars you're now working to pay off.
youtube.com/watch?v=wJUXLqNHCaI
Fucking end this shit now, most humiliating failure in mankind's history.

Amen to that. My personal favorite is Jack Herer. While being strong on the THC side it contains just about the right amount of CBD to mellow you out. It's about the balance, as you say. And that's why I fucking love Dutch coffee shops. Broad selection of various strains and if the dealer asks you if you'd rather get high or stoned or both you know you're at the right place, know what I mean?

Holy fuck England is an Orwellian nightmare

British people exist solely to be parasited off of by the royal family and the wealthy pedo elite families that own them

LOL.
I can walk to the store and legally buy 30-40% THC bud or 90%+ THC concentrates. $12/gram for the concentrates.
This is in CO. Don’t come here, none of you are wanted especially brits/Californians/Other subhumans

Yeah, I enjoy a high thc, as long as it has the cbd to back it up, otherwise it's just unpleasant.

That's the fucking way it seems right now.

We need a revolution, french style. Guillotines and everything.

I used to feel anxious when smoking sativa dominant plants, but I was able to rationalise the anxiety; i knew it was just the weed, i knew there's no chance of overdose, so i realised i had nothing to be scared of and the anxiety vanished. Any anxiety vanishes instantly and I can concentrate on listening to Alan Watts lectures and being fascinated by nearly everything. I only really like CBD at night when I wanna chill and sleep

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For me nowadays, especially after my grandad whom I was very close to died (he was like my second father)

I can't really smoke any weed because it's all high thc stuff around bristol.

I had a horrible semi psychedelic experience with some extremely strong lemon haze that had trichomes falling off it like dandruff.

That's some doo doo looking ass reefage.
Pathetic can't you urps do anything right any more.

There seems to be plenty of CBD heavy stuff around Suffolk, but I do love it when I'm randomly offered a potent haze which will cause me to spend the next 2 hours seeing the world from a totally different perspective. I love the thrill. I know a lot of people get anxious, introspective and generally scared on potent THC levels with little CBD, but I swear it's just your own state of mind which is the problem there. That and the fact that it being illegal in its own right makes it a pretty anxiety-provoking ordeal just to acquire the stuff safely. Hopefully that at least will change. Most normie public users if they do decide to try, will mainly get the heavy, tired feel from CBD, little if any paranoia.

It is my state of mind, ever since my grandad died I've had pretty bad existential anxiety and THC amplifies that. Before I'd smoke high thc buds and have a brilliant experience laughing with mates.

I want weed legal so I can pick and choose what I want to suit my state of mind.I envy the dutch for this.

>Haze
Basically all you can get in my area nowadays too if you don't have some old school connecs. Fun story on the side: one of my retarded ghetto dealers calls it "Hase" (meaning Rabbit in German). He doesn't speak English at all so he's probably just pronouncing the word like he wants, but sometimes I wonder if he's trying to refer to the rabbit hole Alice went down. Sometimes he's surprisingly "smart" because he snorts pep all day. Yay, German science!

I sent a letter to my mayor about legalizing cannabis in my town and he wouldn't take a position either way
Talk to your local politicians about weed, higher up politicians won't respond to you because they can't/won't but if your local politicians ignore you, you get to call them out for being cunts.

Furthermore I had brownies with those mates before and got much, much higher than I did when I had that bad trip. Of course this was before my grandad had died, and I was with all my freinds.

Also when I had that bad episode I was alone.

Yeah maybe THC strains aren't for you if you're feeling an exacerbation of a prior condition, but I have the same thing happen to me and having once been afraid of it, I now enjoy it. Everyone is gonna be different though, no surprises there. At least now as you say, with a regulated market looking imminent, you'll get a labelled product of consistent quality and character.

>oi m8 u gota loicence for that state of moind?

The only sellers in my area are young chavs who just want to get fucked up from as strong thc as they can. I know they actually don't even bother with cbd.

Literally the uk in a nutshell. Fuck the tories, and fuck labour, and fuck the royal elitist cunts.

Most (nearly all) cannabis contains some CBD, and chavs will often have nothing available but CBD heavy strains, they're very common. There's a market for both types, but in an illegal market it's all down to whichever seeds the grower buys.

My greif for him was delayed by about 6 months, I didn't feel the full force of that greif until then. Because he died of a heart attack with no warning, and I'd seen him on his birthday 3 days before.

Jesus, that's a real thing? I thought it was just a British stereotype. I'm sure they'll gang up on my drunk ass once they see through my horrible Austin Powers accent that I try to pull off.

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Bristol is infamous for skunk though, all the stuff I've ever had like that is extremely pungent, you can smell it from like 5 metres away even if it's in a bag.

90% concentrated vapes FTW. Got mine legally yesterday. Great time to be a burger.

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I can relate to that. When my gramps (who was basically my father figure, dad always at work and gramps teaching me how to read and write and explained the world to me and so on... sorry for being a bit incoherent but I'm not a native speaker and drunk) err where was I? Oh yeah, when my gramps died I felt nothing. Went to his funeral and it was just a surreal ritual. Took months for the grief to really hit me and I went through a rough patch for years, almost quit uni because everything seemed so pointless.

I don't know why politicians go on about skunk. Skunk is a random plant, decades old, which averages 9% THC. It's an indica dominant hybrid - 65% Indica / 35% Sativa THC: 9-15% - 19%, CBD: 1%, CBN: 1%
Most off the stuff on the streets nowadays is haze, cheese or kush. Just see what people are growing...
cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/
CBD heavy strains will stink just as much as THC heavy strains. The govt calling it "skunk" is just another example of their dire ignorance.

Yeah.. I get that "everything feels pointless" feeling.. like someone turned the light off from my world

Politicians know nothing about weed because they are all a load of squares.

In the states politicians know about weed, they're just afraid they'll stop getting "donations" from the pharmaceutical companies.

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Thanks for clearing that up, Captain Zoidberg.