What do yall think about Environmental Conservation?

Used to be edgy and think environmentalism is for hippies / liberals.

Now I am more mature and realise city life is absolutely shit and countryside is God-tier, preserving the environment and wildlife is important.

>Roads jammed packed with wageslave normies driving overpowered diesel cars to shuttles themselves back and forth from slaving away for Mr Shekelberg every daily.
>buy a product which is 90% plastic packaging to grab normies attention 10% actual product
>disposable debt driven consumer culture hammered into normies brains from an early age
>muh economy must perpetually expand

Fuck all this shit

Jow Forums related how?

If third worlders weren't a thing, Westerners would be progressing to an era of post-scarcity in harmony with nature.

Y'all
Fuck. Off.

We'd have as much conservation as was actually demanded if it were a matter of private property instead of dipshit-commons.

The modern environment movement is a Malthusian depopulation agenda funded by far left groups. It is anti science and not grounded in reality.

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Our god milton friedman says this about what we should do about ecology

Permaculture + population density restrictions would do a lot to improve society.

>at a reenactment with family out in the barely-touched wilderness
>mother, after finishing her cigarette, flicks it onto the ground
>make her pick it up and throw it away in a trashcan, with a disapproving frown
Why do this? It hurts nothing to just keep trash in your pocket until you're near a trashcan. No one wants to see piles of cigarette butts everywhere, no one wants to see plastic bottles everywhere, so why are people so blase about tossing one on the ground themselves? How do you think the pile starts, you fucking idiots?

Anyhow, one thing that does annoy me about environmentalism is that it has been tied into the climate change thing, when they are separate issues. Obviously, any European (man or woman) should want clean air, clean land, and reserves of untouched beauty for the people to enjoy. Why is this tied in with global-homo attempts to destroy my nations' economy, and give mud countries an undue advantage when they ruin the planet more than anyone?

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Somewhat? The answer is very simple, the rich have propagandized to the stupid for generations that the environment is bad, that nature is the enemy - for one simple reason: it costs them money to not pollute and tear shit up.

If you are against the environment then you can be completely ignored as a thinking being. None of your opinions mean shit.

Yes, because perpetual growth on a finite planet with finite resources - that's science. Idiot.

>tfw I throw cigarette butts out the window
>tfw I don't cut up my 6 pack plastic holder thingies
>tfw I remove/bypass the catalytic converters on my vehicles
>tfw I cut wood without a permit and get my Christmas tree right outside of town
>tfw I bury dead animals out there too
>tfw I smuggle bad batteries into the landfill and don't even recycle
>tfw I release old R34 coolant and freeon into the atmosphere
>tfw I dump old vehicle fluids on unwanted plants and weeds
>tfw I burn my garbage in the campfire
>tfw I couldn't give the least of shits about the environment and in spite of what they'll tell you hardly anybody else does either

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shit mang thats M.F. endorsing a carbon tax . . keep doing gods work anonymoose

national socialists prefer conservation of the fatherland's resources, natural and social

it's just stupid lolbertarians (ie: ultraliberals and anarchocucks) who don't give a fuck about the land they live off of

Wow, you're a piece of shit.

unironically kill yourself

your death will literally make this world a better place

>and in spite of what they'll tell you hardly anybody else does either
your comical list of affronts to the environment notwithstanding, this is pretty well true. Environmentalism may have been the original form of progressive virtue signalling.

He makes a fair point.

People who destroy the environment are taking away the future away from our children and descendants. Death is a kindness they do not deserve.

I don't know about Environmentalism but there should have been some badass Bruce Lee vs Chuck Norris shit gone down on that bridge between those platforms.

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Environmentalism =/= Conservation
Conservation is fine.
Environmentalism is hippie, leftist, green derangement.

I would be all for it, but the inconvenient truth is that there are a few billion too many people on the planet. Half measures like limiting emissions and setting aside national parks are totally hopeless and will just drag out the damage. Climate change is a necessary catastrophe to cull the herd. The sooner we get to mass famine, the better.

>anti environment
Shit, you caught us, ancap actually does mean anti captain planet.
YOU'LL PAY FOR THIS!

No mercy for litterbugs in the ethnostate

Ur a faggot nigger

Until we run into some supernatural forest thing that tells us what we're doing is wrong; slash, burn, build, conquer.

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>It seems like this board is somewhat anti environment
Yeah, right, because we all know how environmentally conscientious libtards are. It couldn't possibly just be that we are anti-libtard.

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Modern Ludite

There's no rationale behind it either secularly or in the Bible. Thereby it's satanic/retarded. Same thing really.

I bet that's the litter from a rightwing protest.

whas the point of preserving a people if you won't preserve the air, water, trees, wildlife and land? You can't have a people if they have no air to breathe or water to drink

Yeah it’s pretty sad how wanting to keep the forests where I hunt clean of garbage is somehow a crazy lefty idea

It's sickening how the only value any human can seem to place on the things giving you fucking oxygen and rain is "things I like shoot in guts live under dis". Hunters are human dogshit.

I don't think he meant forest's only worth was for hunting, I think he just said he enjoys hunting in clean forests. Calm down.

nature's trying to kill us every second. why should we show any leniency?

No, that's what he meant. He'll lie about it if pushed, but that's precisely what he meant. He does hunt, after all.

Because environmentalism (in US) got fucked by bipartisan bullshit.

Environmentalism is an apolitical concept of preservation that was actually invented by republicans (I.E Teddy Roosevelt). We need the environment to be healthy so that we are healthy, we need biodiversity so we can enhance our understanding of biology and have access to the countless unique and useful chemicals species produce.

The problem is the shittiest elements of human nature are very resistant to environmentalism because it has long term effects and requires some level of sacrifice. If there is anything humanity hates doing, it's planning beyond it's own lifespan.

At a crucial point in American history some really stupid shit backed by just terrible circumstances split the issue. This cuck Al Gore comes out of nowhere and decides to make the left "the environmentalist" party. His idea? Nothing but taxes and more taxes. At the same time neo-con retards dominated the right.

This was the period when religious fundamentalism was saturating the right for some bizarre reason. The problem with christfaggotry of this caliber is that there is that every generation is duped into believing rapture will happen in their life time (Specifically looking at you, mormons). They believe the world is just a god's test and all is there to rape and destroy because it doesn't matter.

This probably the main reason why the right, instead of answering Al Gore with a more attractive solution, chose to just shit on environmentalism.

But there is a reason why neither the left or right offer any real solutions is because as I mentioned, it requires sacrifice. There is no money in environmentalism, no direct beneficial results. It's preparedness for preparation and preventing problems before they arise.

It conflicts with both capitalism and communism and affects the freedom of industry. So it's essentially a fucked idea and we're all doomed because people are too retarded to think long term.

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>providing environment
>trying to kill

95% of people who die from nature is because of bacteria and viruses

Jow Forums is not a singular entity

The thing is climate change means niggers will bear the brunt of its repercussions when we are allowed to shoot them to defend land.

That is a good thing. Carry on, Christian Soldier.

yeah i agree with that

t. about to be tortured and killed for littering

Environmental conservation is intrinsically nationalist.

Because it's a deliberately ambiguous term that people can read into it whatever their own half thought out personal prejudices are.

you probably have good intentions, but you have a complete lack of understanding of conservationism

Best thing in the world

Why arent real life Endor neighborhoods a thing yet? It would maximum comfy.

Top priority issue.All life depends on the natural environment, and we should make it the most important priority in our politics. My racism is not the main reason I oppose immigration, it is nature.

We should build the world into a permaculture paradise, and those that destroy their enviroment deserve to starve.

Blood and SOIL. Can't have one without the other and it makes no sense to shit up either,

that mindset gets a bit tricky when you have people destroying the environment telling you not to destroy the environment

This.

Nothing tricky there. It is either smart people or Nature itself telling you that you are doing something wrong.
You can ignore the people but you can not ignore Nature.

>It seems like
Because you haven't lurked enough to be objective and you're all in your fee fees. Cut it out.

Nature is conserved for the good of people- and environmentalists value nature more than people. Thus conservatism, so long as it conserves people's lives, will never satisfy the typical environmentalist.

>Nature is conserved for the good of people-
WE

I think it's important we don't turn our planet into a global desert / trash-heap / toxic microplastic soup, and I think that although we are all failing at this, only whitey has a hope in hell of being able to manage.

For this reason, green issues can and must be reclaimed from the left for the right and alt-right.

>WAS

Or you could actually carry on a conversation, like some kind of actual human. But you do you.

CHRISTIANS

T. College student who doesn't realize hunters and fishers genuinely care for it while he does nothing for it.

>And shitttttt

Bible Interpreted as Guide to Preservation of One's People GENERAL:
Contract Edition
Jacob and Easu: Birthright
Isaac and Rebekah are parents to Jacob and Easu.
Jacob (low time preference) trades Easu food in exchange for Easu's birthright, which includes the father's inheritance.

Isaac dies, and Easu renegs on contract. Since the contract was only known to the brothers and their mother, Jacob can not enforce it.

MAJOR LESSON :
Contracts/rules can be made, but enforcing them may be non profitable.
MINOR LESSONS :
-can't trust women to vouch for you
-beware of making non enforceable contracts/rules.
CURRENT DAY EXAMPLE :
Starbucks cucking by not enforcing its right to kick loitering negroes out.

Ok. This I gotta hear.

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Cool pasta.
Where the nature comes into play in this artificial fiction tale?

>Where the nature comes into play?

Never. Fuck the environment, Jesus will save us

But I am Jesus, user.

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I agree, it saddens me when yet another field is turned into housing and will never be reclaimed.
People don't care how precious nature is.

Littering is literally nigger behaviour

We need to reclaim environmentalism from the left, because caring about your country and its nature is basically just an extension of patriotism. In fact, it's PART of it.

Americans don't care too much for beauty
They'll shit in a river, dump battery acid in a stream
They'll watch dead rats wash up on the beach
And complain if they can't swim

South-East user here.

I know how you fucking feel mate. My village has been turned into a housing estate crammed full of thick-as-pigshit Londoners who throw their rubbish everywhere and choke up all the country roads. Its a fucking travesty what's happening to our countryside. I want to round up every leftie """""environmentalist"""" and nail their fucking torsos to an oak tree

you can't conserve shit when theres niggers about

>niggers are the only animal not worth conserving
>also gooks

Learn to hunt, learn to fish, learn to forage, seek the woods, seek the high country, take your children, show them how to survive.

This is the method of preservation of values and teaching of virtues. Children will learn the value of life. Self reliance goes against corporate and government will.

>It seems like this board is somewhat anti environment

we have a political party in australia called the greens who pretend to be environmentalists but are pro-mass immigration and basically for open borders. increased population is probably the single worst thing that can happen for the environment but the communist hypocrite greens dont seem to get it. we have a true environmentalist party called Sustainable Australia who are against mass immigration but barely anyone knows about them.

Corps(not companies) and government can't be trusted to look after the planet

Greens here too and exactly the same story.
There is no viable environmental party and this is where the right is failing.

Pick up that can

My teacher taught about bio-degradables in grade school, but I didn't pay enough attention so I just thought throwing trash on the ground would help plants grow

niggers throw their entire fast bood bad filled with trash out of the window all the time. they aren't humans and probably should be dealt with....

trash economy you say?

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we call the greens "the watermelon party" because they are green on the outside but red on the inside. inside the party there are two warring factions: the genuine environmentalists and the actual communists. the communists run the party. if right wing parties were more for environmental conservation theyd probably pick up a few voters who are in favour of that but dont care about identity politics peddled by the left.

David Icke quit the green party...

im sure he was one of the saner ones in the party.

Yes.lol

The problem I have with environmentalism is that it almost always has less to do with helping the environment than it does with some form of wealth redistribution. Why do you think every kike on the planet was pissed of when Trump didn't sign that big environmental treaty? They were planning on milking the burger tit for all it was worth and he told them to pound sand.

Now if you want to talk about overfishing or, commercial shipping emissions or, dumping garbage or, commercial fish farming. That's a horse of a different color. But the kikes and hippies that cry about people driving anything but a prius don't give a flying fuck about actual environmentalism. Carbon taxes are a fucking scam. Your average volcano puts off more greenhouse gas than all of humanity and you don't hear a fucking peep out of the tree huggers about it. You know why. Because you can't shake down a volcano for shekels. Just like nobody make the chinks do anything about their pollution. The truth about (((environmentalist))) is if there's no guilt bux to fleece they don't give a fuck.

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>commercial fish farming.

are they a problem? do they fuck up rivers or something?

>We'd have as much conservation as was actually demanded if it were a matter of private property instead of dipshit-commons.

I don't believe this for a second. If it were true that private owners would preserve the environment better than the government, then the western half of the US, where the federal government owns much of the land, wouldn't be far more pristine than the east coast. I'll trust my own eyes on this one.

I agree that the general public doesn't give a shit about the environment. This is exactly why the government should be the steward of the few remaining pristine areas of the United States.

Also an example of why direct democracy would lead to the destruction of the country. Most Americans lack the mental or moral capacity to govern themselves.

They should quit ruining society.

I think it more important than politics because however blackpilled I become I still see beauty in the natural world.