ITT we discuss oddities of the Route 91 Harvest Festival Massacre. Largest mass shooting in U.S. history and hardly a peep! This needs to be discussed every single day in every possible way until answers are given!
>What's the situation? Stephen C. Paddock, a 64-year old man had 23 guns brought up to his 32nd floor Suite 32-135 in Mandalay Bay, over approximately 7 days. On the night of Oct. 1st, 2017, at approximately 10:00 P.M., Stephen Paddock opened fire on the Route 91 Harvest Festival where Jason Aldean was performing a concert. Over 1,000 rounds are recorded having being fired. Stephen had rented the adjoining suite to 32-135, opening up and angle towards his first shots towards fuel tanks in McCarran, which were supposedly to "sight in". After 75 minutes, over AN HOUR after the first shots, a LVMPD S.W.A.T. team breached Suite 32-135 and found Paddock deceased.
>THERE IS NO MOTIVE >MULTI-AGENCY CROSS JURISDICTION RESPONSE AND INVESTIGATION
The victims have every right to know what in the world went on, and so do the People. Please, dump all your research into the largest mass shooting in U.S. history here! Infographs, photos, videos, MEMES, we need it discussion!
I'll dump some of the oddities I've collected, I welcome any questions.
>Where to even begin? The timelines that have been provided during and after all conflict. >Jesus Campos Security guard that was shot 6 minutes before the concert was struck, conducted only 1 interview, with Ellen Degeneres (owner of MGM slot machines) and has since disappeared.
>What gun(s) were used? >What of the reports of multiple shooters over dispatch, simply commotion? >What of the reports of shooting AFTER the breach of Suite 32-135, when "Paddock" was confirmed deceased >What of the "bodycam" footage provided half a year later of his room breach? What did they find in it? >How did Stephen discharge over 1,000 rounds, in both sides of the Suite, commit suicide by gunshot, and not set off a fire alarm?
When his room was breached, fire alarms activated. >but maybe the charge probably alerted the ones in the hallway, while he was shooting outside, you might say Yet, he shot supposedly ~200 rounds out at Jesus Campos, DOWN the hallway?
>Who else was staying in his room? Pic related.
>Why was only NYT given camera footage of Paddock, excluding anything from Oct. 1st
>What happened to the 29th and 32nd floor CCTV? By this time, I wouldn't trust it anyway. The lack of transparency is only causing frustrating amongst the thinking public.
The helicopter and M240 sound it clearly a big truck on the strip.
Noah Cook
That was weird how the security guard, the first person on the scene who was supposedly injured was sent down the Mexico right after it happened.
Matthew Williams
If you notice in this picture, the carts were altered. Even slightly, why? It's a crime scene. During the breach, you can see the cart presented having no water bottles. The photos provided later even conflict themselves with the bottles absent/present. His laptop is clearly functioning, but it's claimed the HDD was destroyed? Why is there nothing of the surveillance? Why was he RECORDING HIMSELF COMMITTING THE LARGEST MASS SHOOTING IN U.S. HISTORY? To watch down the hall!
Welll, he was recording the hallway to protect himself from when police inevitably responded, of course. This is why he rigged up some sort of scuba/CPAP apperatus in case they CS gassed him! Very cautious, lots of planning! So, with all this setup.. He just kills himself! What of the explosive precursors found in his van? What of the tannerite and guns arranged in a manner resembling a display? What does pic related look like to you?
And some more knowledgeable anons are going to have to help me out here. Why would the coroner pronounce Stephen C. Paddock dead at midnight? I thought he was dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound AFTER S.W.A.T. breached around 11:00. I've thought of the factors here, and perhaps the crime scene had to be given some sort of special attention due to the nature of the event. Could the coroner have only had access to his body later? How would this change his diagnosis of when Stephen died? Perhaps he gave an arbitrary, approximate time? Pic related though, what the FUCK.
Prove it was a M240B. Why do people think it was beltfed, and impossible to have ~100 round bursts? At the end of the shooting, you can hear him apparently growing tired and the RPM slows consistent with a bumpstock. Otherwise, the rate of fire is all over the place, supposedly because he was alternating between his arsenal. hooktube.com/watch?v=_mXe9dk77bk What do you make of this?
Let's get some videos in here. There's a lot of rare footage floating around.
The FBI asked the victims to turn over their cellphones to help the investigation, I have heard many if not most of their phones were wiped. Dang! I doubt there was anything useful to 100% triangulate the location of the shooter(s) through bullet impact and rifle reports, something like HealthRanger did. And was removed from YouTube.
Here we can see the body found in Suite 32-135, with all respects to whoever it may be, has perished over the butt of a rifle. While wearing tacticla loafers, apparently. Aside, he somehow committed suicide by gunshot to the head with a revolver, fell back over a gun, and had his leg underneath a rifle's bi-pod. Why was the rifle over his leg not present in the bodycam footage? The bodycam footage shown to the public is facing at an absurd angle. I've seen plenty of helmet and bodycam footage, and have never seen one angled towards the left eye. Why is an officer asked to kill his weapon light after breaching the second room?
I wonder what he saw. Remember all those photos of him after the event presented with an award by MGM dons? His lack of presence in their system?
tactical loafers* Gotta go out in comfort. Also the use of gloves, one would assume to hide prints. Can anyone comment if the gloves he's seen with look like they would offer any ergonomic advantage?
I also present pic related, some oddities during the timeline. I've suspected that there were many armed civilians misidentified as other shooters. People were trying to break into police cars to get the shotguns, bless them. I'd like to add that in the
i love these kinds of threads where anons compile info and post it. it's like you have such a feeling of knowing that you have to share it. i'll be reading along famalamanamamama
Adam Wilson
Is the exact time stamp of when Steve Paddock shoots himself known? From what I understand every shot that was fired has been tracked by examining youtube footage. Obviously the windows were blown out, so shots fired inside the room were all audible down on the street. He didn't shoot himself with the same gun(s) that he was firing out the window with, so the sound from the gun he was shot with should be noticeably different from the rest of the shooting. Is there a consensus on which audible gunshot actually killed Paddock? Is that information noted in the police report? I might guess "the last shot" but I believe some police officers discharged weapons at some point as well. Does anyone has any specific information on this??
Approximately 2213 hours: Paddock fired an unknown number of rounds into the Las Vegas Village area.
Approximately 2215 hours: Paddock fired two separate volleys of an unknown number of rounds into the Las Vegas Village area.
Approximately 2216 hours LVMPD Officers Varsin and Hendrex along with Mandalay Bay security officers made entry into the stairwell on the 31st floor.
Approximately 2218 hours: The heat detection indicator from inside room 32-135 detected no further readings from inside of the room.
So if you believe the official story you would think that he shot himself sometime between 2215 hours and 2218 hours. The police report talks about all of the shots, except the shots that supposedly killed Paddock. If you can hear the 2215 volleys on video why wouldn't you be able to hear the suicide shots that had to have happened directly after the 2215 volleys?
WHY ARE THE "SUICIDE" SHOTS NOT MENTIONED IN THE POLICE REPORT?!?!? THIS SEEMS LIKE KIND OF A BIG DEAL!!
arab owned mandalay bay gifts the murder ground concert area to the lv police to erect a new headquarters...FOR THEIR SILENCE ON THE MURDERS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS.
>feeling of knowing Of course, I don't know anything, if very little. I question why the evidence photos were leaked, when they were leaked, and why. Vault 7, live feed can be altered. And I'm to expect a bodycam pointed at someone's face, 6 months post filming? >Question everything However, you can go verify my pic related right now. >Millionaire off gambling Lol ok.
I've seen multiple videos of two single shots discharged after one of the final volleys, in which the rate of fire is slowed due to either barrel heating, physical fatigue, or a factor I'm unaware of. I have seen cell footage of some Mexican guys talking about the event, and you hear the final two shots. It's the clearest audio I've heard of it, and ofc I can't seem to find it again. I'd like to make note that McCarran airport was well ,obviously shutdown, but there's evidence of shooters on the runway in some dispatch audio. I'd be grateful if someone could source either of these I'm mentioning. Good post, along with the initial report that a SWAT member discharged their weapon after clearing, add that to the list of inconsistencies.
hooktube.com/watch?v=v3JwEbBMt-Q Indeed, full thing here. My theory is they made a staging area at Hooters in the only place shots weren't being reported at. I don't know enough of EMT practices during active shooting events (very few actually do) to properly comment. I know heli's won't touch down if there's an active shooter, and that's why there wasn't lifeflights, in addition to the fact the hospitals were so close. Regardless, WTF was up at McCarran airport? youtube.com/watch?v=mgRbgxG7KqM @2:00 Possibilities: A)Civilians fleeing the concert overwhelming the airstrip B)Civilians fleeing with weapons drawn misidentified as 'active shooters' C) ATC (God bless him) was having to deal with an incomprehensible amount of data and miscalled it D) There were ACTIVE SHOOTERS ON THE RUNWAY
HERE. hooktube.com/watch?v=PsM7a4Krkz0 @3:30 The final two shots, and she witnesses glass falling from the MGM? It's very difficult to find clear audio of those final semi-auto shots. Shot himself twice? Doesn't match his injuries. This channel is VERY HELPFUL!! Also, to your vid: @1:10:30 Shooter at the front desk of New York, New York @01:10:47 Two shots fired inside casino floor, several subjects down at New York New York @01:18:00 Airport mentioned. @01:18:20 Two shots in New York New York Park AFTER PADDOCK DOWN. @01:18:36 Though one officer says negative shots fired, "we were [unintelligible] park area"
More legit than the narrative! (I know it was supposedly trajectories, it's an old pic)
Really, they're making Route 91 Festival into the new police HQ? Which branch, source? Where will they have >H A R V E S T festivals at if there's a police station there?
Vegas user here. There was a shots fired situation at Bellagio as well. I know because friends posted about the experience. Sometimes it gets lost in the shuffle. Between Mandalay, Bellagio, and Hooters, that's at least 3 simultaneous (((coordinated))) events. Obviously parts of a potentially larger event. From Bellagio to McCarran Airport is basically the entire South end of Las Vegas Boulevard. Good luck. I'm lurking
Should be noted that the Vegas event used extensive crisis actors to represent the 'victims' in the media. From the one guy who said
>My friend was shot three timesz in the chest, >With an assault weapon >But he's fine
To the Larping Dr. Phil girl who pretended to be a witness, to the laughing lolling QT student who claimed she was with Cruz on the time of the shooting.
It was another staged event by government, if people died? Maybe maybe not, but it was staged by government.
Checked, good to have you here. How are the LVPD reacting to the public? Last I saw, Lombardo is starting to treat the People like a hassle. youtube.com/watch?v=timkYabTCrc here. @3:00 "We're going to have to use resources to solve the largest mass shooting in U.S. history! Our detectives are going to be tied up, how are they going to solve REAL crimes?" What of Tropicana though? That's where the "Salman"/VIP escort took place, also around there. I'm pretty baffled about Lombardo in this video, he doesn't have Rouse breathing down his neck anymore, not physically at least. Do you happen to have any anecdotal reports about helicopter traffic? youtube.com/watch?v=qr9OC4lh9xU Good view on this, if you're patient. Footage at around 10:00 mins in. Synching air traffic with available CCTV. Supports the claim that two helis were blacked out, which is not necissarily BAD. IN A TOWN CONTROLLED BY CASINO MAFIA. Like Trump said, the response was a 'miracle'! I don't get a good feeling about the windows. In the bodycam they talk about a window not being out, because they were in a room that even the narrative claims he didn't break out.
>"these niggers glow in the dark, just run them over with your car"
Corrine, yes. Just because she was on Dr. Phil doesn't mean she couldn't have gone on to get shot at, and then give testimony to media. Low likelihood, but possible.
Checked It's kinda weird, man. There's really no local push to get to the bottom of this shit. Everybody just kinda rolls there eyes and growls about it occasionally. It's like people know in their hearts that they aren't going to get the truth, so they kinda just move along. I personally know one person who was injured by a fragment, so I can vouch it's not all crisis actors. As far as the choppers go, there is literally a Maverick Tours helicopter launching tarmac right in that general vicinity so an extra chopper or two wouldn't even be noticed, even at night. The VIP thing is vexing to me. I've lived here since 1988, friends, family, and even me in the casino industry at times. I've never heard of anything that even comes close to paramilitary mercs escorting a VIP thru a casino floor literally drawingbdown on casino guests.
Jaxson Brooks
You're directing that energy the wrong way there bud. ""Mostly due to structural failure because the fire was so intense."" The more attention the better, "real" in your terms or not. Memoryholing is not an option.
Checked right back. By a fragment huh? Did they do any examination of the grain/caliber? The hospitals have not been forthcoming with any forensics in my finds.
>never heard of anything come close to paramilitary mercs escorting VIP Tbf, there's never been an incident of this scale since 1988 in Vegas, that I've heard. Still makes you wonder just how VI this VIP was. The vid I linked shows the tarmac as you've described, I really encourage any Vegas anons to go around and do some investigative journalism. Btw, you might watch Bill Cooper's old documentary on the Luxor and its purpose. You might think a little differently seeing it.
I'm still convinced that paddock was a an FBI informant who was supposed to sell weapons to some group most likely isis. However this group never planned in paying for the guns and the shooting of the concert was coincidental. Their target was the airport. When the fuel didn't go up there was an obvious target of opportunity in the concert. Police let them go because arresting them would mean the FBI over saw the worst mass shooting in US history
Charles Young
>hooktube.com/watch?v=PsM7a4Krkz0 Those are pretty noticeable shots. Is there a timestamp for those? Do they match any of the shots mentioned in the police report?
I never really brought that up, the individual injured was maybe a year out of high school. Obviously devastated the family. Injury was to lower back, had to have months of rehab. Walking much better now. Kinda tough to broach the subject from that angle.
Juan Jenkins
See He was at one time in the D/I, I will provide further evidence. Note the discrepancy in many media of Steven and Stephen? His previous employment is not in itself conclusive of any wrongdoing. I don't buy that theory, simply because the People surely can handle an undercover agent sting gone wrong. It's fucking better than absolutely nothing. Or maybe because that opens up a case into what exactly ELSE they're doing 'undercover'. Their house is being cleaned regardless.
I'm unable to provide an answer, the owner of the channel is still asking for the source footage to come forward with details AFAIK. Just use the audio from his last recorded burst from most audio and estimate it out. What's your theory on the two last shots? Wouldn't it be nice to autopsy the corpse found in room 32-135? OOPS CREMATED IT.
From what angle? "Hey you got really fucked up, a moment of your time could help find out who the fuck put a fragment into you." Reminds me, how is the ratio of Vegas anons thinking Paddock v. Patsy?
Just so you guys know, they re elected sheriff lombardo. The people of this city deserve to die, stop investigating. You cant help them. Save me from this dystopia.
Austin Reyes
Checked, I mean.. it IS Vegas. Curious, was there a candidate against Lombardo for Sheriff that was campaigning on further investigation? Should have been an easy win compared to "Don't tie up our resources" Lombardo.
NOW HOLD THE FUCK UP, FLIR or thermal imaging? They had thermal imaging on 32-135? Idr that in comms, unless it was seperate tact channel. So they either had a heat lens on an airship, were scanning it from tech on floor 31, or the casino has some sort of nightmare heat reader of guests.
some nonames not running on the right issues but las vegas is full of mexicans and californians now. its lost and needs to be left to the maggots they will bleed this city dry until the lake loses all its water then a crisis the likes of which youve never seen will occur. Ive been watching the lake level for 20 years. Youve been warned.
Charles Gomez
lombardo won 50% of the vote so there is no run off election in november i guess these morons were happy with the handling of the case. sigh.... kill me now
Elijah Garcia
All we need to know is Sheriff Israel and Prince Al Waleed Talal. Case closed.
But user, he was under a lot of pressure! Ehh but really, do you not remember A. Rouse? The initial interviews, how Lombardo was brought in after the Under Sheriff was offscript. And Paddock's house broken into under FBI protection, by entering and exiting the front door, no damage done, and stand-down orders from Washington FBI. How many believe it was Paddock? You should hold a petition on the Strip.
It's not a good look, is it? Al Waleed has been humbled. Israel, not so much. Sheriff Israel wants to EXPAND the Baker Act, just fuck my Constitution up. Wasserman-Schulz district, hopefully she'll get wrapped up in the cleaning of house soon enough.
What report are you using for your stamps? LVMPD Preliminary Investigative Report / Oct 1 Mass Casualty Shooting?
What even.. >injuries to posterior of BOTH CALVES Was this from his fall before? How? >200 bullet strikes >consisting of ACTUAL holes and impacts!!! >caused by 35 rounds Now, I'm no Jow Forumsommando, can someone help me out with this? How were these ACTUAL 200 strikes caused by 35 rounds? For... a .223.
Hey, what Goddess do they preach about over in the Luxor across the street? It's not worship, it's just amusement rides.
why was Paddock not wearing any hearing protection? how was he able to force himself to fire so many rounds without hearing protection? no plugs or ear muffs were found in the hotel room.
The following items of evidence were retained by the FBI’s Evidence Recovery Team: 1) One brown long sleeved shirt. 2) One pair of black pants. 3) One pair of white socks. 4) One pair of black slip-on shoes. 5) One pair of blue underwear. >6) Paper tissue from the decedent’s ears. 7) Print exemplars. 8) One projectile recovered from the decedent’s head.
He apparently had paper in his ears. Could have been paper plugs? Or mislabeled material, unlikely by FBI ERT. What's the shot on the right from? I don't ever recall him described with piercings anywhere in an autopsy. I'm terrible at ear identification. Insightful question though, and the EAR LOBES varying between multiple images.
Ethan Parker
Going to throw a curveball. Stephen Craig Paddock was an avid 2A supporter who believed the American people were not adequate in their exercising of said right. He hoarded guns all his life. Read some of his dialogue, know the guy. He worked around some DEEP projects. He had served his Country. He was not a pleb off the street. Targetting this pro-2A crowd has been noticed, saying he MUST be far-left to do so. Or what if he was poking a sleeping giant, trying to wake it before it was overrun in its comfort? Motive is, big G-man takes over an hour to respond. Message is, what can one motivated person do? What really was covered up? What if he left a note saying "Hey, wake the fuck up America, People have revolted over less." To the 2-3 people that have to read this, I trust you to pick up on the state of affairs.
Think about it. >but that's ridiculous >there is no motive!
